From steve-franks at btclick.com Sat Jan 1 10:53:59 2005 From: steve-franks at btclick.com (Steve) Date: Sat Jan 1 11:27:04 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Clues: Order Royal Replica Watches Online Message-ID: <000f01c4efe7$d1a74260$0200a8c0@Speedy> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Tina Michel" Subject: Order Royal Replica Watches Online Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 11:06:43 -0000 Size: 3112 Url: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050101/29e7a61e/attachment.mht From lena at valu-line.net Sun Jan 2 02:08:44 2005 From: lena at valu-line.net (Lena) Date: Sun Jan 2 02:08:43 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] trouble Message-ID: <001a01c4f067$9b8e52b0$1228d4d8@CPQ32289117783> I am using windows XP, I down loaded the spambayes, and it is on the start up, but nothing in the out look express. when I went to your help and seen this, a.. If you are running Outlook XP/2002/2003, you may find that if you go back to the dialog, the addin will still be unselected. In this case, perform the following: 1.. Go to Help->About Microsoft Outlook. 2.. Click the Disabled Items button. 3.. Select SpamBayes. 4.. Click Enable. 5.. Restart Outlook. when I go to help and about outlook express there is nothing to click or unclick either way. so now I do not know how to get the spam filter to work. Lena -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050101/1d8be770/attachment.htm From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Jan 2 02:21:36 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Jan 2 02:22:21 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Clues: Order Royal Replica Watches Online In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Thanks, for your help. As you can see it also scored 1 for me. Was this before training on the message? If so, then the problem isn't the message being correctly classified, it's a probably with moving messages into the spam folder (you can't get a higher score than 1.0). Do you have the spam field displayed in the folder that these messages are appearing in? If so, then what score do they have when they arrive? A log file from a time when the messages arrive would also help to narrow down the problem. BTW, if this is the problem, then retraining won't help. However, your database is somewhat out of balance and retraining is often useful anyway, so it's still a good idea. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Jan 2 02:23:05 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Jan 2 02:23:40 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Defeated! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Argh. Starting yesterday a number of messages have > been making it past SpamBayes - some with a 0% spam rating! Please see FAQ 4.7 (particularly the bit about including the clues). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Jan 2 02:31:43 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Jan 2 02:32:17 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Using a different 'application data' folder In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > For some reason, the /documents and settings/Dylan/application > data/spambayes folder is locked, and I cannot delete it. What happens if you try? What is the exact error message that you receive? SpamBayes does nothing to lock this folder in any way - the only way that SpamBayes would be preventing deletion would be if it was still using files in the folder (and if Outlook is completely shut down, then that will not be the case). > Every time I boot outlook, it asks me for settings again, because > it cannot write the settings to the folder. This sounds like a Windows problem. Are you logged in as 'Dylan' and not someone else? Do you have appropriate Windows permissions? > How can I either remove this folder so it will work again, If Outlook is shut down completely, then SpamBayes isn't stopping you, so you'll have to figure out how to get the necessary Windows permissions to do so. > or make it use an alternate application data folder? Please see FAQ 3.14: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Jan 2 02:33:25 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Jan 2 02:33:59 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Configure Spam folder In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > When I try to delete E-mails to Spam I am getting a Message > that say I need to configure the Spam folder. 1. Click on the "SpamBayes" button on the SpamBayes toolbar. 2. Choose "SpamBayes Manager" from the drop-down menu. 3. Click the "Filtering" tab. 4. Click the "Browse" button next in the "Certain Spam" box (the second from the top). 5. Choose the folder you want to use for spam. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Jan 2 02:36:16 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Jan 2 02:36:50 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] trouble In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I am using windows XP, I down loaded the spambayes, > and it is on the start up, but nothing in the out look > express. when I went to your help and seen this, > If you are running Outlook XP/2002/2003, [...] Outlook Express and Outlook are two completely different problems, basically unrelated except for a unfortunate similarity in their name, and that they are from the same company. You are using Outlook Express, not Outlook, so none of the documentation about Outlook applies to you. FAQ 2.1 and the documentation that comes with SpamBayes explain how to set up SpamBayes to work with Outlook Express. Please try to work through it, and if you can't figure out any step, let us know where you are having trouble. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From dylanh at horkin.net Sun Jan 2 02:37:55 2005 From: dylanh at horkin.net (Dylan Horkin) Date: Sun Jan 2 02:38:13 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Using a different 'application data' folder In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050102013811.259881E4003@bag.python.org> Thanks for replying. I figured out the problem... Basically, I had restored the database through a backup file after I reformatted. I accidentally restored security options with it, so windows locked me out of the folder. By deleting my user account and recreating, it removed the folder, so I'm good to go. Love the filter, by the way. It'd be nice, though, if there was an option where you could put words manually in the filter that AUTOMATICALLY make an email marked as spam. For instance, I'd be able to enter 'vicoden' and any email with that word gets marked as spam. It never comes up in personal emails, only spam. Or at least weight the spam probability priority. Thanks again -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 5:32 PM To: 'Dylan R. Horkin'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Using a different 'application data' folder > For some reason, the /documents and settings/Dylan/application > data/spambayes folder is locked, and I cannot delete it. What happens if you try? What is the exact error message that you receive? SpamBayes does nothing to lock this folder in any way - the only way that SpamBayes would be preventing deletion would be if it was still using files in the folder (and if Outlook is completely shut down, then that will not be the case). > Every time I boot outlook, it asks me for settings again, because > it cannot write the settings to the folder. This sounds like a Windows problem. Are you logged in as 'Dylan' and not someone else? Do you have appropriate Windows permissions? > How can I either remove this folder so it will work again, If Outlook is shut down completely, then SpamBayes isn't stopping you, so you'll have to figure out how to get the necessary Windows permissions to do so. > or make it use an alternate application data folder? Please see FAQ 3.14: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Jan 2 02:41:34 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Jan 2 02:42:06 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Changing mail client to connect to "localhost" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I use Windows XP , Outlook Express, and SpamBayes version > 1.01. I don't understand how to "change my mail client to 'localhost'", > as directed by the Troubleshooting guide. In Outlook Express: 1. Select "Accounts" from the "Tools" menu. 2. Double-click the account you wish to change. 3. Click the "Servers" tab. 4. In the "Incoming mail server" section, change your ISP's mail server to "localhost". > Was "localhost" shorthand for " the > address of the machine running SpamBayes" ? Does this mean /my > machine/? In either case, how do I find out that address? "localhost" is a special name that means the machine you are using. It's the easiest way to refer to the local machine, but you can find out the actual name if you like (Start->Run->cmd.exe, then type 'ipconfig' and press enter). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Jan 2 02:43:45 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Jan 2 02:44:17 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Using a different 'application data' folder In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Thanks for replying. I figured out the problem... Good to hear :) > It'd be nice, though, if there > was an option where you could put words manually in the > filter that AUTOMATICALLY make an email marked as spam. For > instance, I'd be able to enter 'vicoden' and any email with > that word gets marked as spam. It never comes up in personal > emails, only spam. Or at least weight the spam probability priority. This sort of thing isn't ever likely to make it into SpamBayes (it essentially works by doing this in a cleverer way). However, you can do it manually with Outlook's rules. Just create a rule that looks for (eg) 'vicoden' in the message body, and moves any such message to the same junk folder that SpamBayes uses. Outlook's rules run before SpamBayes, so won't get in the way of this. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Jan 2 06:54:32 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Jan 2 06:55:09 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes quits after a while In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Here is the file, generated with > > python ./sb_imapfilter.py -c -t -l 4 -i4 &>out1 [...] Hmm (should have noticed this before). What version of SpamBayes are you using? It looks fairly old (like older than 1.0b1). If you're not using 1.0 or 1.0.1, please download 1.0.1 and try with that - the generated file looks like an error than has been previously fixed. If you are using 1.0 or 1.0.1, please let me know and I'll look at this further. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Jan 2 06:56:41 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Jan 2 06:57:15 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Adv.Conf.-Interface: Headers to Display, spam% In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >>> Now i have "From Subject To" and the score display enabled. I >>> have to wait 15 minutes to be able to check my freemail >>> account again. I will send a test message and give it a try. > > didn't work right away > > But NOW it works. I don't have seen a note anywhere but > *shame on me*, do i have to restart Spambayes to make a new > config work? You shouldn't have to - the configuration should take effect as soon as you save it. However, maybe the browser has the current review page cached? If you change the options and then force the browser to reload the review page, does that fix it? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Sun Jan 2 09:53:45 2005 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Sun Jan 2 09:55:34 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Using a different 'application data' folder Message-ID: Don't waste your time on creating Outlook rules for vicodin (or xanax, or whatever) - the spammers change the spelling constantly, exactly to avoid such rules. So you get v|codin, v!c0din, etc., etc. - it's a lost cause. My experience (and other SB users') shows that it's better to let SpamBayes tokenize the whole message - since the spammer must tell you more details about the stuff he's hawking, those pieces will most probably trigger SB. Amir -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 03:44 To: 'Dylan Horkin'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Using a different 'application data' folder > Thanks for replying. I figured out the problem... Good to hear :) > It'd be nice, though, if there > was an option where you could put words manually in the > filter that AUTOMATICALLY make an email marked as spam. For > instance, I'd be able to enter 'vicoden' and any email with > that word gets marked as spam. It never comes up in personal > emails, only spam. Or at least weight the spam probability priority. This sort of thing isn't ever likely to make it into SpamBayes (it essentially works by doing this in a cleverer way). However, you can do it manually with Outlook's rules. Just create a rule that looks for (eg) 'vicoden' in the message body, and moves any such message to the same junk folder that SpamBayes uses. Outlook's rules run before SpamBayes, so won't get in the way of this. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From grynders at sfu.ca Sun Jan 2 14:01:26 2005 From: grynders at sfu.ca (Gerry Rynders) Date: Sun Jan 2 14:01:43 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Please take me OFF this list you have! Message-ID: <00a001c4f0cb$2b466ec0$7cc674ce@GERRITS1RM42ON> I am getting up to 7 spambayes message per DAY! And I dont like to get these messages. Thanks PS this comming from SFU ?? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <00a001c4f0cb$2b466ec0$7cc674ce@GERRITS1RM42ON> References: <00a001c4f0cb$2b466ec0$7cc674ce@GERRITS1RM42ON> Message-ID: Gerry, You can unsubscribe from the spambayes mailing list via this link: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes -- Richie Hindle richie@entrian.com From tim.peters at gmail.com Sun Jan 2 17:30:36 2005 From: tim.peters at gmail.com (Tim Peters) Date: Sun Jan 2 17:30:57 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] spam! In-Reply-To: <00b201c4f0cb$d94d36c0$7cc674ce@GERRITS1RM42ON> References: <00b201c4f0cb$d94d36c0$7cc674ce@GERRITS1RM42ON> Message-ID: <1f7befae0501020830450118d2@mail.gmail.com> [Gerry Rynders] > Can you please take me off your list? > All the spam I am getting is comming from your site... > > Thanks for the help! > > PS I you cant get me off the list. howcan I get me off th list. Subscribing & unsubscribing are both done by you. If spambayes@python.org is the list you're talking about, go to http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes and unsubscribe yourself. If you have some other list in mind, a URL similar to that one appears at the bottom of every message you get from the list (all mailing lists hosted at python.org are similar in this way). From dylanh at horkin.net Sun Jan 2 19:14:44 2005 From: dylanh at horkin.net (Dylan Horkin) Date: Sun Jan 2 19:15:01 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Using a different 'application data' folder In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050102181459.BAF0D1E4004@bag.python.org> It triggers it, but half the time it goes in Junk Suspects, and I don't really want to strengthen the filter :S -----Original Message----- From: Katz, Amir [mailto:Amir_Katz@bmc.com] Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 12:54 AM To: 'Dylan Horkin' Cc: spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Using a different 'application data' folder Don't waste your time on creating Outlook rules for vicodin (or xanax, or whatever) - the spammers change the spelling constantly, exactly to avoid such rules. So you get v|codin, v!c0din, etc., etc. - it's a lost cause. My experience (and other SB users') shows that it's better to let SpamBayes tokenize the whole message - since the spammer must tell you more details about the stuff he's hawking, those pieces will most probably trigger SB. Amir -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 03:44 To: 'Dylan Horkin'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Using a different 'application data' folder > Thanks for replying. I figured out the problem... Good to hear :) > It'd be nice, though, if there > was an option where you could put words manually in the > filter that AUTOMATICALLY make an email marked as spam. For > instance, I'd be able to enter 'vicoden' and any email with > that word gets marked as spam. It never comes up in personal > emails, only spam. Or at least weight the spam probability priority. This sort of thing isn't ever likely to make it into SpamBayes (it essentially works by doing this in a cleverer way). However, you can do it manually with Outlook's rules. Just create a rule that looks for (eg) 'vicoden' in the message body, and moves any such message to the same junk folder that SpamBayes uses. Outlook's rules run before SpamBayes, so won't get in the way of this. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From ramras at neu.edu Sun Jan 2 23:21:10 2005 From: ramras at neu.edu (Mark Ramras) Date: Sun Jan 2 23:21:24 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Changing mail client to connect to "localhost" References: Message-ID: <004901c4f119$5c9a77c0$2802a8c0@MarkRamras> Still in trouble! Here's what I've done. 1) Right clicked on SB Icon Tray and chose "Configure". 2) In POP3 Proxy Options: Remote Servers: filled in "pop3.lepton.neu.edu" SpamBayes Ports: 110 SMTP Proxy Options: left blank 3) In Outlook Express, for the incoming POP3 mail server, replaced "pop3.lepton.neu.edu" with "localhost". When I then ask Outlook Express to "receive all", I get an error message: "The connection to the server has failed. Account: lepton.neu.edu. Server: 'localhost' ." Mark (Baffled in Boston) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Meyer" To: "'Mark Ramras'" ; Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 8:41 PM Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Changing mail client to connect to "localhost" > I use Windows XP , Outlook Express, and SpamBayes version > 1.01. I don't understand how to "change my mail client to 'localhost'", > as directed by the Troubleshooting guide. In Outlook Express: 1. Select "Accounts" from the "Tools" menu. 2. Double-click the account you wish to change. 3. Click the "Servers" tab. 4. In the "Incoming mail server" section, change your ISP's mail server to "localhost". > Was "localhost" shorthand for " the > address of the machine running SpamBayes" ? Does this mean /my > machine/? In either case, how do I find out that address? "localhost" is a special name that means the machine you are using. It's the easiest way to refer to the local machine, but you can find out the actual name if you like (Start->Run->cmd.exe, then type 'ipconfig' and press enter). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date: 12/30/2004 From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Jan 2 23:55:47 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Jan 2 23:56:27 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Spam Clues: Schulz asked me to send you this. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > In the meantime, (if you have time), don't you think the > strategy of pasting a portion of a legitimate message in with > the Spam is going to be troublesome? Mathematically it seems > like a problem since half or more of the message wouldn't > look like spam. If the 'legitimate message' part is actually comprised of words (tokens) that are also in messages you have trained as ham, then yes, that could be a problem (if the ratio of those words is high enough). However, (ignoring personally tailored messages for the moment) the chances of hitting on words that happen to be in your database as ham is pretty low, and there's the additional chance that a word will be used that's actually in your spam database (this is where an individual filter shines, since a word that's ham for you could be spam for me). If the message is tailored to you (say it's a copy of a ham message that you received), then the chance is much higher that those tokens will be in your database as ham. However, this raises the cost of sending that spam message to you, a lot. That sort of spam is extremely rare, since it's much more cost effective to just send bulk mail out to everyone and rely on those without (effective) filters to generate your revenue. It seems like there are two main methods of combating this spamming technique at the moment: using effective training (particularly training that keeps the database size small, which greatly reduces the chance of a random hit), and analysis techniques like DSPAM's "Bayesian Dobly". > Here's the scoring and a good sample message. The scoring is > higher than when it arrived because I used it to train as spam. In the future, it would really help if you could send us clues prior to training - training changes the clue list drastically, especially with messages like this. > # ham trained on: 19365 > # spam trained on: 1719 You have trained on a lot more ham than spam (11.3::1), which is probably the biggest problem here. SpamBayes works best with approximately even numbers of ham and spam - with this imbalance everything will look a lot more like ham. That's also a fairly large database. It seems that the best results generally come from fairly small databases (a few hundred messages). It would definitely be worth retraining from scratch, and seeing if that resolves the problem. With Outlook, the best method would probably be 'train on mistakes' (i.e. train unsures, false positives, and false negatives). See for (a lot) more on training styles. Since you're retraining, you might also like to try the "use_bigrams" option, which generally gives good results (and should be good with randomly appended words) and reduces the required training time. If you'd like to do this, open the file "default_bayes_customize.ini" in your data directory (create one if there isn't one already) in a text editor (like notepad or wordpad). Add these lines (excluding the """) to the end of the file: """ [Classifier] x-use_bigrams:True """ =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jan 3 02:05:49 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jan 3 02:06:25 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Changing mail client to connect to "localhost" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Still in trouble! Here's what I've done. > 1) Right clicked on SB Icon Tray and chose "Configure". > 2) In POP3 Proxy Options: > Remote Servers: filled in "pop3.lepton.neu.edu" > SpamBayes Ports: 110 > SMTP Proxy Options: left blank > 3) In Outlook Express, for the incoming POP3 mail > server, replaced "pop3.lepton.neu.edu" with "localhost". That all sounds correct. > When I then ask Outlook Express to "receive all", I > get an error message: > "The connection to the server has failed. Account: lepton.neu.edu. > Server: 'localhost' ." SpamBayes is running at this time, right? (i.e. the tray icon is there and not disabled). Are there any error messages in the SpamBayes logs? (The troubleshooting guide explains where they are). Try connecting to the proxy manually: 1. Open a command prompt (e.g. Start->Run->cmd.exe) 2. Type "telnet localhost 110" That should open up a connection and you should see some sort of welcome message from the lepton.neu.edu POP server. If it does, then just type "QUIT" and return to disconnect. If that does connect, then SpamBayes is working fine, and something is odd with Outlook Express. (Are you connecting via SSL?) If that doesn't connect, then something isn't working with SpamBayes - the log should have more clues. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From ksg at telusplanet.net Mon Jan 3 02:17:19 2005 From: ksg at telusplanet.net (Ken Gordon) Date: Mon Jan 3 02:17:33 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes quits after a while In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks. It does look like I did indeed have an older version. I have updated (and made the relevant dbm changes for OS X), and all seems to be working now. I'll let you know if anything changes. Thanks again. --On 2005 January 2 18:54:32 +1300 Tony Meyer wrote: >> Here is the file, generated with >> >> python ./sb_imapfilter.py -c -t -l 4 -i4 &>out1 > [...] > > Hmm (should have noticed this before). What version of SpamBayes are you > using? It looks fairly old (like older than 1.0b1). If you're not using > 1.0 or 1.0.1, please download 1.0.1 and try with that - the generated file > looks like an error than has been previously fixed. > > If you are using 1.0 or 1.0.1, please let me know and I'll look at this > further. > > =Tony.Meyer -- Ken Gordon From ramras at neu.edu Mon Jan 3 03:44:01 2005 From: ramras at neu.edu (Mark Ramras) Date: Mon Jan 3 03:44:19 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Changing mail client to connect to "localhost" References: Message-ID: <003701c4f13e$14fe6820$2802a8c0@MarkRamras> I went to the SB logs in ....\Local Settings\Temp. There were 3 text files, SpamBayes servers 1 - 3. SpamBayes server 1: "Service not available. Using thread. Loading database... Listener on port 110 is proxying pop3.lepton.neu.edu:110 User interface url is http://localhost:8880/ Loading database... Listener on port 110 is proxying pop3.lepton.neu.edu:110 Loading database... Listener on port 110 is proxying pop3.lepton.neu.edu:110 Loading database... Listener on port 110 is proxying pop3.lepton.neu.edu:110" SpamBayes server 2: "Service not available. Using thread. Loading database... Listener on port 110 is proxying pop3.lepton.neu.edu:110 User interface url is http://localhost:8880/ Traceback (most recent call last): File "pop3proxy_tray.py", line 524, in CheckVersion File "spambayes\Version.pyc", line 151, in fetch_latest_dict File "urllib2.pyc", line 129, in urlopen File "urllib2.pyc", line 326, in open File "urllib2.pyc", line 306, in _call_chain File "urllib2.pyc", line 901, in http_open File "urllib2.pyc", line 886, in do_open URLError: " SpamBayes server 3: "Service not available. Using thread. Loading database... Listener on port 110 is proxying pop3.lepton.neu.edu:110 User interface url is http://localhost:8880/" I also tried "telnet localhost 110". Error message is shown below. I'm confused about localhost 110 vs localhost 8880. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Meyer" To: "'Mark Ramras'" ; Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 8:05 PM Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Changing mail client to connect to "localhost" > > Still in trouble! Here's what I've done. > > 1) Right clicked on SB Icon Tray and chose "Configure". > > 2) In POP3 Proxy Options: > > Remote Servers: filled in "pop3.lepton.neu.edu" > > SpamBayes Ports: 110 > > SMTP Proxy Options: left blank > > 3) In Outlook Express, for the incoming POP3 mail > > server, replaced "pop3.lepton.neu.edu" with "localhost". > > That all sounds correct. > > > When I then ask Outlook Express to "receive all", I > > get an error message: > > "The connection to the server has failed. Account: lepton.neu.edu. > > Server: 'localhost' ." > > SpamBayes is running at this time, right? (i.e. the tray icon is there and > not disabled). Are there any error messages in the SpamBayes logs? (The > troubleshooting guide explains where they are). > > Try connecting to the proxy manually: > > 1. Open a command prompt (e.g. Start->Run->cmd.exe) > 2. Type "telnet localhost 110" I tried this, and got the error message: Can't connect to pop3.lepton.neu.edu:110: <7, 'get addrinfo failed'> > > That should open up a connection and you should see some sort of welcome > message from the lepton.neu.edu POP server. If it does, then just type > "QUIT" and return to disconnect. > > If that does connect, then SpamBayes is working fine, and something is odd > with Outlook Express. (Are you connecting via SSL?) > > If that doesn't connect, then something isn't working with SpamBayes - the > log should have more clues. > > =Tony.Meyer > > -- > Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies > (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. > http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date: 12/30/2004 From rolph at 110.net Mon Jan 3 04:07:12 2005 From: rolph at 110.net (Don Rolph) Date: Mon Jan 3 04:07:26 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Changing mail client to connect to "localhost" In-Reply-To: <003701c4f13e$14fe6820$2802a8c0@MarkRamras> References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050102220526.014f5bb0@pop3.110.net> I may be confused, but I am not able to resolve pop3.lepton.neu.edu. I can resolve lepton.neu.edu. Are you sure you have the correct server name? At 09:44 PM 1/2/2005 -0500, Mark Ramras wrote: >I went to the SB logs in ....\Local Settings\Temp. There were 3 text files, >SpamBayes >servers 1 - 3. > >SpamBayes server 1: "Service not available. Using thread. >Loading database... Listener on port 110 is proxying pop3.lepton.neu.edu:110 >User interface url is http://localhost:8880/ >Loading database... Listener on port 110 is proxying pop3.lepton.neu.edu:110 >Loading database... Listener on port 110 is proxying pop3.lepton.neu.edu:110 >Loading database... Listener on port 110 is proxying >pop3.lepton.neu.edu:110" > >SpamBayes server 2: "Service not available. Using thread. >Loading database... Listener on port 110 is proxying pop3.lepton.neu.edu:110 >User interface url is http://localhost:8880/ >Traceback (most recent call last): > File "pop3proxy_tray.py", line 524, in CheckVersion > File "spambayes\Version.pyc", line 151, in fetch_latest_dict > File "urllib2.pyc", line 129, in urlopen > File "urllib2.pyc", line 326, in open > File "urllib2.pyc", line 306, in _call_chain > File "urllib2.pyc", line 901, in http_open > File "urllib2.pyc", line 886, in do_open >URLError: " > >SpamBayes server 3: "Service not available. Using thread. >Loading database... Listener on port 110 is proxying pop3.lepton.neu.edu:110 >User interface url is http://localhost:8880/" > > I also tried "telnet localhost 110". Error message is shown below. >I'm confused about localhost 110 vs localhost 8880. >Mark > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Tony Meyer" >To: "'Mark Ramras'" ; >Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 8:05 PM >Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Changing mail client to connect to "localhost" > > > > > Still in trouble! Here's what I've done. > > > 1) Right clicked on SB Icon Tray and chose "Configure". > > > 2) In POP3 Proxy Options: > > > Remote Servers: filled in "pop3.lepton.neu.edu" > > > SpamBayes Ports: 110 > > > SMTP Proxy Options: left blank > > > 3) In Outlook Express, for the incoming POP3 mail > > > server, replaced "pop3.lepton.neu.edu" with "localhost". > > > > That all sounds correct. > > > > > When I then ask Outlook Express to "receive all", I > > > get an error message: > > > "The connection to the server has failed. Account: lepton.neu.edu. > > > Server: 'localhost' ." > > > > SpamBayes is running at this time, right? (i.e. the tray icon is there >and > > not disabled). Are there any error messages in the SpamBayes logs? (The > > troubleshooting guide explains where they are). > > > > Try connecting to the proxy manually: > > > > 1. Open a command prompt (e.g. Start->Run->cmd.exe) > > 2. Type "telnet localhost 110" > >I tried this, and got the error message: > Can't connect to pop3.lepton.neu.edu:110: <7, 'get addrinfo >failed'> > > > > > That should open up a connection and you should see some sort of welcome > > message from the lepton.neu.edu POP server. If it does, then just type > > "QUIT" and return to disconnect. > > > > If that does connect, then SpamBayes is working fine, and something is odd > > with Outlook Express. (Are you connecting via SSL?) > > > > If that doesn't connect, then something isn't working with SpamBayes - the > > log should have more clues. > > > > =Tony.Meyer > > > > -- > > Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies > > (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. > > http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. > > > > > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date: 12/30/2004 > >_______________________________________________ >Spambayes@python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes >Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html Regards. Don Rolph rolph@110.net From rdonmi at sbcglobal.net Mon Jan 3 04:15:36 2005 From: rdonmi at sbcglobal.net (Don Millsap) Date: Mon Jan 3 04:16:05 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Is it working? Message-ID: <004801c4f142$8cd80780$c3fafea9@XP> Hi, Installed sb_server version of SpamBayes and it accepts training but I don't think it is checking my emails? I am using Outlook Express as my mail client and put in the address for sb/yahoo server. Checked FAQ section but am not sure I understand how it works. How can I tell it's working or am I missing something. [main email address above]? Thanks, Russel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050102/fc22ee6e/attachment.html From ksg at telusplanet.net Mon Jan 3 03:41:27 2005 From: ksg at telusplanet.net (Ken Gordon) Date: Mon Jan 3 04:17:48 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes quits after a while In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5E2577E682149CA182F7FA33@Ken-Gordons-Powerbook.local> Looks like I spoke to soon. See log attached: --On 2005 January 2 18:54:32 +1300 Tony Meyer wrote: >> Here is the file, generated with >> >> python ./sb_imapfilter.py -c -t -l 4 -i4 &>out1 > [...] > > Hmm (should have noticed this before). What version of SpamBayes are you > using? It looks fairly old (like older than 1.0b1). If you're not using > 1.0 or 1.0.1, please download 1.0.1 and try with that - the generated file > looks like an error than has been previously fixed. > > If you are using 1.0 or 1.0.1, please let me know and I'll look at this > further. > > =Tony.Meyer -- Ken Gordon -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 262514 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050102/13b1079d/log-0001.obj From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jan 3 04:39:08 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jan 3 04:39:45 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Changing mail client to connect to "localhost" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I'm confused about localhost 110 vs localhost 8880. "localhost" means your machine. 110 and 8880 are two different (software) ports - SpamBayes uses port 110 to host the POP3 proxy, and port 8880 to host the web interface. So connecting to your machine (localhost) on port 110 will (should!) get you to the POP3 proxy, and connecting to your machine (localhost) on port 8880 will get your to the web interface. The majority of the various items in the Tray application just open up a browser window to the appropriate localhost:8880 address. > SpamBayes server 2: "Service not available. Using thread. [...] > URLError: " [...trying to telnet to localhost:110...] > I tried this, and got the error message: > Can't connect to pop3.lepton.neu.edu:110: <7, > 'get addrinfo failed'> It's failing to find the pop3.lepton.neu.edu site. Is that definitely correct? (I can find lepton.neu.edu, but not pop3.lepton.neu.edu, so maybe it should be that?). Otherwise I'm guessing that there's something special about that address (only machines where you are can get to it, or there's a special lookup for it on your machine). Try using lepton.neu.edu instead of pop3.lepton.neu.edu in the SpamBayes configuration, and see if that works. If not, try using the IP address instead: 1. Open a command prompt (e.g Start->Run->cmd.exe) 2. Type ping pop3.lepton.neu.edu The IP address will be in the response looking like "Pinging pop.ihug.co.nz [203.109.252.42]" (the bit you want is the 203.109.252.42 bit. 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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jan 3 05:15:18 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jan 3 05:15:53 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Is it working? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Installed sb_server version of SpamBayes and it accepts > training but I don't think it is checking my emails? Have you setup Outlook Express to connect to localhost instead of your mail server? 1. Open Outlook Express 2. Choose "Accounts" from the "Tools" menu 3. Double-click the appropriate account 4. Click the "Servers" tab 5. Change the incoming mail server name to "localhost" (no quotes) Note that for Outlook Express you will also have to use the "notate to" or "notate subject" options on the SpamBayes configuration page (e.g. tick the "Spam" and "Unsure" boxes in "Notate Subject"). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From robert.vasquez at WolgastCorporation.com Mon Jan 3 18:34:49 2005 From: robert.vasquez at WolgastCorporation.com (robert.vasquez@WolgastCorporation.com) Date: Mon Jan 3 18:42:24 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Incorrectly sorting messages Message-ID: [...] > my rule in Outlook processes [...] > If I click on 'statistics' I get the following message: > > Statistics SpamBayes has processed zero messages [...] > If I click on 'review messages' to 'train on proxied messages', the > following comes up: > > No untrained messages > There are no untrained messages to display. Return Home, or > check again. >Are you using the Outlook plug-in, by any chance? If so, then you shouldn't >be using the web interface at all - everything is handled within Outlook via >the SpamBayes Manager dialog. The web interface shouldn't even be installed >if the plug-in is, unless you overrode the defaults. >If you're not sure how to use the plug-in, please ask us any questions you >may have and we will try to help. >If you're not using the plug-in, please let us know which version of >SpamBayes you are using, and give us a copy of your log files, as they may >have errors indicating the problem. No, I am not using the Outlook plug in. I'm using a Windows 2000/Outlook 2000 client PC. It connects to the pop3proxy running on a Slackware 9.1 system. I'm using version 1.0.1 One error message that pops up on my linux system console is: Traceback (most recent call last): File "sb_server.py", line 471, in onRetr msg.setPayload(messageText) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/spambayes/message.pin setPayload prs._parseheaders(self, fp)AttributeError: Parser instance has no attribute '_parseheaders' Which log files would be helpful to post? Again, the filter is working, but I wish to do more training and it would be easier to do it via the web interface on messages that have already passed through it. From gdpine at sbcglobal.net Mon Jan 3 20:06:49 2005 From: gdpine at sbcglobal.net (Gerald Pine) Date: Mon Jan 3 20:06:55 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] forwarding to spambayes_spam@localhost crashes sb_server too often Message-ID: <1104779209.11353.47.camel@bigboy.home.net> I find that when I try to forward spam messages that make it through the filter for further training, that the messages crash sb_server. This doesn't happen for pure text messages, but seems to happen almost all the time for messages that contain html. Is there a suggested fix for this, or should I just not try to use those messages for further training? -- Gerald D. Pine From karlb at dslnorthwest.net Mon Jan 3 21:05:37 2005 From: karlb at dslnorthwest.net (karlb) Date: Mon Jan 3 21:02:30 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] No Spam in my MS outlook Suspect or Junk emails Why Message-ID: Help Desk @ Spam Bays My question does not fit any category that I'm aware of, can you help??? About three weeks ago (mid December) suddenly all Spam ceased in one day. No Spam was being stored in the "Junk E-Mail" folder or in the "Suspect Junk E-Mail" folder. Prior to this day I was receiving 50 to 100 Spams per day in these two folders and a few that sneaked thru but having trained the program, I could live with these few and could quickly peruse the Junk files in the two folders mentioned. On the plus side, no Spam on the negative side I cannot verify good mail being rejected as Spam. Your response will be most appreciative Karl Bruck karlb@dslnorthwest.com -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.5 - Release Date: 12/3/2004 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050103/0b11b186/attachment.htm From mhewitt at web.de Mon Jan 3 21:28:51 2005 From: mhewitt at web.de (Manuel Hewitt) Date: Mon Jan 3 21:29:00 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Adv.Conf.-Interface: Headers to Display, spam% In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <681175873.20050103212851@web.de> Hallo Tony, > You shouldn't have to - the configuration should take effect as soon as you > save it. However, maybe the browser has the current review page cached? If > you change the options and then force the browser to reload the review page, > does that fix it? Nope, I tried clearing the browser cache, reload, shift-reload. Everytime i change the view of the review page it goes back to the default settings. But... i did some more testing and it works 100% of the time if i close spambayes and restart it. It seems that Spambayes has to read the ini-file to work with the settings i enter. -- Best regards, Manuel From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Jan 4 00:53:25 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Jan 4 00:54:05 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] No Spam in my MS outlook Suspect or Junk emails Why In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > About three weeks ago (mid December) suddenly all Spam > ceased in one day. No Spam was being stored in the "Junk E-Mail" > folder or in the "Suspect Junk E-Mail" folder. Prior to this > day I was receiving 50 to 100 Spams per day in these two > folders and a few that sneaked thru but having trained the > program, I could live with these few and could quickly peruse > the Junk files in the two folders mentioned. On the plus side, > no Spam on the negative side I cannot verify good mail being > rejected as Spam. Is SpamBayes still running (i.e. you can select the Manager from the SpamBayes menu)? If so, check your most recent log (the troubleshooting guide explains where they can be found). It should have an entry for each message that it receives, indicating whether it was ham/unsure/spam, and what was done with it. If everything is still working, but there are no spam messages listed in the log, then it sounds most like someone upstream of your (e.g. your ISP) turned on some sort of spam filtering for you, which has wiped it out. This is either good for you (you can stop worrying about using any spam filter) or bad (if their filtering results in any false positives and you can't get that mail back). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Jan 4 00:55:32 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Jan 4 00:56:08 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Incorrectly sorting messages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > One error message that pops up on my linux system console is: > > Traceback (most recent call last): File "sb_server.py", line > 471, in onRetr > msg.setPayload(messageText) File > "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/spambayes/message.pin > setPayload prs._parseheaders(self, fp)AttributeError: Parser > instance has no attribute '_parseheaders' Sorry - SpamBayes 1.0.1 isn't compatible with Python 2.4. This will be fixed in 1.0.2 (which will probably be out towards the end of the month) and 1.1. For the moment, either run SpamBayes with 2.2.x or 2.3.x, or get hold of the SpamBayes source from CVS (either HEAD, or the 1_0_release branch). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From info at sitca.net Tue Jan 4 01:43:02 2005 From: info at sitca.net (Samui Institute of Thai Culinary Arts) Date: Tue Jan 4 02:02:31 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Bug reports didn't help Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: spambayes1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 4687 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050104/5be46ea0/spambayes1.obj From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Jan 4 03:04:29 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Jan 4 03:05:07 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Bug reports didn't help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I'm now getting the following error message consistently, > even after uninstalling the program and installing version > 1.01. [...] > ****** > The spam folder is invalid. > Not found exception:Exception0x8004010a > (MAP_E_OBJECTDELETED):OLE error Ox8004010a > > Do you wish to reconfigure? Yes? No? > ****** > > I have tried reconfiguring and resetting the configuration, > and deleting the .ini file in the directory. I keep getting > the same error message. > > The most recent log file is attached. I hope you can help. Is your spam folder in the Deleted Items folder, by any chance? If so, move it out, or select a different folder to use as the spam folder, and see if that fixes the problem. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Jan 4 03:19:46 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Jan 4 03:20:21 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: [spambayes-dev] sb_mboxtrain.py trashes some pine mailboxes interpreting them as only one message In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > sb_mboxtrain.py trashes some pine > mailboxes interpreting them as only one message > Then leaving only the first message behind. > Is this a known problem? [...] > It appears that this happens when an older form of email is in the > folder that might not have the appropriate headers. > like this: > > ^?^? (Fwd) Re: (Fwd) Re: Relationships Gone Sour: Divorce? > > > > From @uga.cc.uga.edu:owner-crm-l@EMUVM1.CC.EMORY.EDU T This sounds like: [ 741250 ] mboxtrain can truncate your mailbox (Although I don't use sb_mboxtrain, so can't be sure). If you agree, then you could either create a patch for this yourself, or add a comment to the tracker encouraging Skip to do so (since he indicated (some time ago) that he might). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From info at sitca.net Tue Jan 4 03:01:03 2005 From: info at sitca.net (Samui Institute of Thai Culinary Arts) Date: Tue Jan 4 03:20:36 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Bug reports didn't help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Tony, The Junk Mail folder had disappeared so I created a new one and manually reconfigured the destination folders. This seems to have worked. Thanks for your help. - Martin -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 9:04 AM To: 'Samui Institute of Thai Culinary Arts'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Bug reports didn't help > I'm now getting the following error message consistently, > even after uninstalling the program and installing version > 1.01. [...] > ****** > The spam folder is invalid. > Not found exception:Exception0x8004010a > (MAP_E_OBJECTDELETED):OLE error Ox8004010a > > Do you wish to reconfigure? Yes? No? > ****** > > I have tried reconfiguring and resetting the configuration, > and deleting the .ini file in the directory. I keep getting > the same error message. > > The most recent log file is attached. I hope you can help. Is your spam folder in the Deleted Items folder, by any chance? If so, move it out, or select a different folder to use as the spam folder, and see if that fixes the problem. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Jan 4 03:22:45 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Jan 4 03:23:20 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] forwarding to spambayes_spam@localhost crashessb_server too often In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I find that when I try to forward spam messages that make it > through the filter for further training, that the messages > crash sb_server. Next time this happens, could you grab a copy of the message that caused the problem and the most recent log file and send those in? I ought to be able to figure out what's wrong and correct the error. > This doesn't happen for pure text messages, > but seems to happen almost all the time for messages that > contain html. Is there a suggested fix for this, or should I > just not try to use those messages for further training? You can always use the web interface to train those messages instead, in the meantime. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Jan 4 04:02:46 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Jan 4 04:03:21 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Adv.Conf.-Interface: Headers to Display, spam% In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > But... i did some more > testing and it works 100% of the time if i close spambayes > and restart it. It seems that Spambayes has to read the > ini-file to work with the settings i enter. You're right: this is a bug. What happens is that if you save the configuration the defaults are loaded (for certain options, particularly those used by the web interface) until the next restart - so it would always go back to "Subject From" and score off until you restarted. I've checked in a fix for this, so it'll appear in 1.0.2 and 1.1 (which didn't seem to demonstrate this behaviour anyway, which is why I couldn't find it at first). Until then, restarting after changes is the appropriate workaround. Thanks for the help in tracking this down. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From ramras at neu.edu Tue Jan 4 05:19:04 2005 From: ramras at neu.edu (Mark Ramras) Date: Tue Jan 4 05:19:21 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Changing mail client to connect to "localhost" References: Message-ID: <001101c4f214$86ff6a10$2802a8c0@MarkRamras> In the POP3 proxy I changed my pop3 server from "pop3.lepton.neu.edu" to lepton.neu.edu. That's fine, I think. But in Outlook Express, after changing my incoming pop3 server from "lepton.neu.edu" to "localhost" and clicking on Send and Receive, I get the following error message: "The connection to the server has failed. Account 'lepton.neu.edu', Server: 'localhost', Protocol POP 3, Port 995, Secure (SSL): Yes, Socket Error: 10061, Error Number: 0x800CC0E" I should also mention that SpamBayes Web Interface has received no messages. (But I guess that's to be expected, given the problem above.) Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Meyer" To: "'Mark Ramras'" ; Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 10:39 PM Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Changing mail client to connect to "localhost" > I'm confused about localhost 110 vs localhost 8880. "localhost" means your machine. 110 and 8880 are two different (software) ports - SpamBayes uses port 110 to host the POP3 proxy, and port 8880 to host the web interface. So connecting to your machine (localhost) on port 110 will (should!) get you to the POP3 proxy, and connecting to your machine (localhost) on port 8880 will get your to the web interface. The majority of the various items in the Tray application just open up a browser window to the appropriate localhost:8880 address. > SpamBayes server 2: "Service not available. Using thread. [...] > URLError: " [...trying to telnet to localhost:110...] > I tried this, and got the error message: > Can't connect to pop3.lepton.neu.edu:110: <7, > 'get addrinfo failed'> It's failing to find the pop3.lepton.neu.edu site. Is that definitely correct? (I can find lepton.neu.edu, but not pop3.lepton.neu.edu, so maybe it should be that?). Otherwise I'm guessing that there's something special about that address (only machines where you are can get to it, or there's a special lookup for it on your machine). Try using lepton.neu.edu instead of pop3.lepton.neu.edu in the SpamBayes configuration, and see if that works. If not, try using the IP address instead: 1. Open a command prompt (e.g Start->Run->cmd.exe) 2. Type ping pop3.lepton.neu.edu The IP address will be in the response looking like "Pinging pop.ihug.co.nz [203.109.252.42]" (the bit you want is the 203.109.252.42 bit. Try using that instead of pop3.lepton.neu.edu in the SpamBayes configuration. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date: 12/30/2004 From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Jan 4 05:38:04 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Jan 4 05:38:40 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Changing mail client to connect to "localhost" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > But in Outlook Express, after changing my incoming > pop3 server from "lepton.neu.edu" to "localhost" and clicking > on Send and Receive, I get the following error message: > "The connection to the server has failed. Account > 'lepton.neu.edu', > Server: 'localhost', Protocol POP 3, Port 995, > Secure (SSL): > Yes, Socket Error: 10061, Error Number: 0x800CC0E" Ah - SpamBayes 1.0.x doesn't support POP3 proxying over SSL, unfortunately. There's a feature request for it open: [ 753708 ] Support POP over SSL As it happens, I was working on this yesterday. It looks like it'll be done for 1.1, but until then, if you want to use the Spambayes POP3 proxy, you have to turn SSL off (Advanced tab in the Outlook Express mail account properties). > I should also mention that SpamBayes Web Interface has > received no messages. > (But I guess that's to be expected, given the problem above.) Yes, it is. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From market at cc.wwu.edu Tue Jan 4 07:51:55 2005 From: market at cc.wwu.edu (TJ Olney) Date: Tue Jan 4 07:51:58 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: [spambayes-dev] sb_mboxtrain.py trashes some pine mailboxes interpreting them as only one message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, that sounds like it. I don't speak python, but a patch would be appreciated. It appears to die at a hex value of 7F7F in the message. I tried to test by replacing those with something else, but don't have a tool to do it with... Know of a search and replace for hex? Or a perl expression that will do it? Are you there Skip? TJ Olney On Tue, 4 Jan 2005, Tony Meyer wrote: > > sb_mboxtrain.py trashes some pine > > mailboxes interpreting them as only one message > > Then leaving only the first message behind. > > Is this a known problem? > [...] > > It appears that this happens when an older form of email is in the > > folder that might not have the appropriate headers. > > like this: > > > ^?^? (Fwd) Re: (Fwd) Re: Relationships Gone Sour: Divorce? > > > > > > From @uga.cc.uga.edu:owner-crm-l@EMUVM1.CC.EMORY.EDU T > > This sounds like: > > [ 741250 ] mboxtrain can truncate your mailbox > 702&atid=498103> > > (Although I don't use sb_mboxtrain, so can't be sure). > > If you agree, then you could either create a patch for this yourself, or add > a comment to the tracker encouraging Skip to do so (since he indicated (some > time ago) that he might). > > =Tony.Meyer > > -- > Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies > (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. > http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. > > -- TJ Olney Western Washington University - Not all those who wander are lost. For the musical version of this thought: http://www.janastanfield.com/song_clips/I_am_not_lost.mp3 From register at klmc.ca Tue Jan 4 15:35:59 2005 From: register at klmc.ca (Kelso Lake Medical Centre - Registration) Date: Tue Jan 4 16:07:28 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Auto Response from Kelso Lake Medical Centre. Message-ID: <10501040635.AA15480116@klmc.ca> Auto Response from Kelso Lake Medical Centre. Your request to register as a new patient at Kelso Lake Medical Centre has been received. We will process your request and be in touch with you. However, if you have not heard from us within one week, please call us or send us an email to register@klmc.ca Please Note: Physicians do not have access to this email and therefore will not be responding. ___________________________________________________________ $0 Web Hosting with up to 120MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com From robert.vasquez at WolgastCorporation.com Tue Jan 4 16:07:02 2005 From: robert.vasquez at WolgastCorporation.com (robert.vasquez@WolgastCorporation.com) Date: Tue Jan 4 16:14:45 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Incorrectly sorting messages Message-ID: > One error message that pops up on my linux system console is: > > Traceback (most recent call last): File "sb_server.py", line > 471, in onRetr > msg.setPayload(messageText) File > "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/spambayes/message.pin > setPayload prs._parseheaders(self, fp)AttributeError: Parser > instance has no attribute '_parseheaders' >Sorry - SpamBayes 1.0.1 isn't compatible with Python 2.4. This will be >fixed in 1.0.2 (which will probably be out towards the end of the month) and >1.1. For the moment, either run SpamBayes with 2.2.x or 2.3.x, or get hold >of the SpamBayes source from CVS (either HEAD, or the 1_0_release branch). Thanks, I installed Python 2.3 and now everything works as expected. From ksg at telusplanet.net Tue Jan 4 20:01:49 2005 From: ksg at telusplanet.net (Ken Gordon) Date: Tue Jan 4 20:35:39 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes quits after a while In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This continues to happen with 1.0.1. The installation is very vanilla - I had previously modified things to use dbm instead of gdbm, but on the off chance that that was the problem, I installed gdbm and undid the changes. Here is a (sanitized) log file generated with ./sb_imapfilter.py -c -t -l 5 -i4. --On 2005 January 2 18:54:32 +1300 Tony Meyer wrote: >> Here is the file, generated with >> >> python ./sb_imapfilter.py -c -t -l 4 -i4 &>out1 > [...] > > Hmm (should have noticed this before). What version of SpamBayes are you > using? It looks fairly old (like older than 1.0b1). If you're not using > 1.0 or 1.0.1, please download 1.0.1 and try with that - the generated file > looks like an error than has been previously fixed. > > If you are using 1.0 or 1.0.1, please let me know and I'll look at this > further. > > =Tony.Meyer -- Ken Gordon -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: log1 Type: application/octet-stream Size: 393674 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050104/144805be/log1-0001.obj From gdpine at sbcglobal.net Tue Jan 4 20:45:04 2005 From: gdpine at sbcglobal.net (Gerald Pine) Date: Tue Jan 4 20:45:18 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Where are spambayes logs? linux version Message-ID: <1104867904.11353.62.camel@bigboy.home.net> Can someone please point me in the right direction to find the spambayes logs on a linux system (I'm using SuSE 9.1 specifically). I'm using sb_server.py and it appears that the logs should be stored in a file that has a name like _pop3proxy.log. However, I have not been able to find such a beast on my system. From wendy at wilytech.com Tue Jan 4 22:42:51 2005 From: wendy at wilytech.com (Wendy Fong) Date: Tue Jan 4 22:42:55 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Compatibility with Oracle Connector Message-ID: <20050104134251655.00000001016@molly> Is SpamBayes compatible with the Oracle Connector for Outlook? Thanks. wendy :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Wendy Fong IT Manager Wily Technology, Inc. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: From kenny.pitt at gmail.com Tue Jan 4 23:22:52 2005 From: kenny.pitt at gmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Tue Jan 4 23:22:57 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Compatibility with Oracle Connector In-Reply-To: <20050104134251655.00000001016@molly> Message-ID: <41db173f.7f12e438.0516.2c56@smtp.gmail.com> Wendy Fong wrote: > Is SpamBayes compatible with the Oracle Connector for Outlook? I don't have any experience with the Oracle Connector specifically, but the Oracle web site says it uses IMAP4 protocol which definitely works with SpamBayes. In general, SpamBayes relies on notifications from Outlook that a new mail message has been added to a folder. Any mail system that delivers items into an Outlook folder should work with SpamBayes. -- Kenny Pitt From rancherm at bgu.ac.il Tue Jan 4 23:53:01 2005 From: rancherm at bgu.ac.il (Ran Chermesh) Date: Tue Jan 4 23:53:42 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] My Junk Suspect message are blanks Message-ID: <20050104225340.D0FEF1E4002@bag.python.org> Hi, I've been using spambayes for quite a long time and it's a wonderful tool. Recently, though, I've encountered a problem. Most of the messages spambayes sends to the Junk Suspect folder, show up there as blank message. All left is the envelope! What's wrong? I'm using verion 1.0.1 for the outlook addon, this on Outlook 2003 and winxp (sp2). Ran <=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=> Prof. Ran Chermesh Behavioral Sciences Dept. , Ben-Gurion University Phones: (323) 934-6792 ? Home (310) 218-3732 ? Cellphone Fax: (412)-202-5443 (eFax) Home address: 118 N Hayworth Ave #3, LA CA 90048. Email: rancherm@bgu.ac.il <=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=> A conclusion is a place where a person got tired of thinking Too often, due process is used to promote abuse, instead of to prevent it -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Train them as spam and spambayes should mark them as spam in the future. -- Best regards, Manuel From rancherm at bgu.ac.il Wed Jan 5 00:15:28 2005 From: rancherm at bgu.ac.il (Ran Chermesh) Date: Wed Jan 5 00:16:11 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] My Junk Suspect message are blanks In-Reply-To: <1759843105.20050105000400@web.de> Message-ID: <20050104231609.714011E4002@bag.python.org> Thanks Manuel. The problem is that all of them are spam. The legitimate messages get lost on their way to the suspected spam folder. Ran <=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=> Prof. Ran Chermesh Behavioral Sciences Dept., Ben-Gurion University Phones: (323) 934-6792 ? Home (310) 218-3732 ? Cellphone Fax: (412)-202-5443 (eFax) Home address: 118 N Hayworth Ave #3, LA CA 90048. Email: rancherm@bgu.ac.il <=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=> A conclusion is a place where a person got tired of thinking Too often, due process is used to promote abuse, instead of to prevent it -----Original Message----- From: mhewitt@web.de [mailto:mhewitt@web.de] Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 3:04 PM To: Ran Chermesh Cc: SPAMBAYES Subject: Re: [Spambayes] My Junk Suspect message are blanks Hallo Ran, > I've been using spambayes for quite a long time and it's a > wonderful tool. Recently, though, I've encountered a problem. Most of the > messages spambayes sends to the Junk Suspect folder, show up there as blank > message. All left is the envelope! > What's wrong? I think that is not spambayes fault. I noticed that the amount of "spam" with an empty body increased in the past weeks. They may be the result of misconfigured spam tools. Train them as spam and spambayes should mark them as spam in the future. -- Best regards, Manuel From dcmcguire at earthlink.net Wed Jan 5 00:26:06 2005 From: dcmcguire at earthlink.net (dc mcguire) Date: Wed Jan 5 00:26:21 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: <000001c4f2b4$c6fa6430$650010ac@laptop> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 156 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050104/bba61b54/attachment.gif From Administrator at bag.python.org Wed Jan 5 00:29:08 2005 From: Administrator at bag.python.org (Administrator@bag.python.org) Date: Wed Jan 5 00:29:11 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] [MailServer Notification]To Recipient file blocking settings matched and action taken. Message-ID: <0e4001c4f2b5$30310da0$8f9ac7cf@Cattertonprinting.com> ScanMail for Microsoft Exchange has blocked an attachment. Sender = spambayes-bounces@python.org Recipient(s) = spambayes@python.org Subject = [Spambayes] (no subject) Scanning time = 1/4/2005 6:29:08 PM Action on file blocking: The attachment image001.gif matches the file blocking settings. ScanMail has Quarantined it. The attachment was quarantined to C:\Program Files\Trend\Smex\Alert\image00141db26c4b99.gif_. Warning to Recipient: Action taken by attachment blocking. From T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz Wed Jan 5 03:35:31 2005 From: T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz (Meyer, Tony) Date: Wed Jan 5 03:35:40 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Where are spambayes logs? linux version Message-ID: > Can someone please point me in the right direction to find the spambayes > logs on a linux system (I'm using SuSE 9.1 specifically). I'm using > sb_server.py and it appears that the logs should be stored in a file > that has a name like _pop3proxy.log. However, I have not been able to > find such a beast on my system. When running from source, all the SpamBayes scripts output everything to either stdout or stderr, so all log information will go to the console by default, or whereever you decide to pipe it to. It's only the binary (Windows) versions (which don't have a console to output to) that log to files, although there has been some discussion in the past of moving to the Python logging package (that would be quite a bit of work, though, and isn't likely to happen even for 1.1). There are two exceptions I can think of for sb_server: 1. if you run with [globals] verbose set to True (e.g. 'python sb_server.py -o globals:verbose:True') then the POP3 conversations are logged to a file called _pop3proxy.log in the current working directory. 2. if you use the 'train' box on the main page of the web interface, the trained messages are saved into a mbox file (_pop3proxy_[sp|h]am.mbox? something like that), again in the current working directory. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From Geerts at agriterra.org Wed Jan 5 12:50:49 2005 From: Geerts at agriterra.org (Micky Geerts) Date: Wed Jan 5 12:50:52 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] problems with availability spambayes for all users Message-ID: Hello, Here is my problem (I'm not too technical, maybe that's the biggest problem ;-)) My colleague and I work both on one computer; I have administrator rights and have no problems with spambayes and have been using it since a few weeks now. My colleague however, cannot benefit from spambayes and I have tried everything to install it on her account. Now, I have found something on your troubleshooting pages, but I cannot execute the command as stated below. "c:\Program Files\SpamBayes\bin\outlook_addin_register.exe" hkey_local_machine Could you please let me know how and what I should do? I understand I have to change the path accordingly, but that is where my understanding stops. We are working with Outlook 2003 in combination with Exchange. Thank you for your help and I wish to congratulate you and your colleagues for creating such a wonderful tool! Kind regards, Micky Geerts SpamBayes is not available for all users on the machine. When SpamBayes is installed, by default it is available only for the user who installed it. This is to allow SpamBayes to appear in Microsoft Outlook's Com-Addin list, and therefore able to be activated and de-activated by the user inside Outlook. It is possible to register the addin so it is available to all users on a particular machine, which can be useful in enterprise arrangements where users have 'roaming profiles' To register SpamBayes in this way, you must log on as a user with permissions to modify the system registry, then execute the command (obviously with the correct path substituted): "c:\Program Files\SpamBayes\bin\outlook_addin_register.exe" hkey_local_machine If you check the installation log after performing such an install, you should see the following messages: Registered: SpamBayes.OutlookAddin Registration complete. Registration (in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE) complete. Note the last line, which does not exist when registration is performed only for the current user. Once you have performed this registration, the Addin will be available for all users - but as noted above, it will no longer appear in Outlook's Com-Addin list. ____________________________________________________________ Agriterra P.O. 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Some of the log output follows. Traceback (most recent call last): File "scripts/sb_server.py", line 475, in onRetr evidence=True) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/classifier.py", line 190, in chi2_spamprob clues = self._getclues(wordstream) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/classifier.py", line 493, in _getclues tup = self._worddistanceget(word) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/classifier.py", line 504, in _worddistanceget record = self._wordinfoget(word) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/storage.py", line 284, in _wordinfoget r = self.db.get(word) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/shelve.py", line 111, in get return self[key] File "/usr/lib/python2.3/shelve.py", line 119, in __getitem__ value = Unpickler(f).load() UnpicklingError: unpickling stack underflow Could not extract id Segmentation fault -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: =?utf-8?q?Gladys Cickfyis?= Subject: =?utf-8?q?Do you wish to feel ?= =?utf-8?q?wonderful future mo?= =?utf-8?q?rn ??= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 19:23:16 +0000 Size: 2305 Url: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050105/ce8ebc9d/attachment.mht From ksg at telusplanet.net Wed Jan 5 21:41:12 2005 From: ksg at telusplanet.net (Ken Gordon) Date: Wed Jan 5 21:41:17 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP server and password in command line? Message-ID: I would like to run sb_imapfilter.py from crontab rather than using -l (I am thinking that this would be a way around the failures I have been getting). Is there a way to specify the imap server and password from the command line? I don't see it in the documentation. -- Ken Gordon From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jan 5 22:34:02 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (tameyer@ihug.co.nz) Date: Wed Jan 5 22:34:11 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP server and password in command line? Message-ID: <41dc5d4a.244.737d.1766500379@ihug.co.nz> > I would like to run sb_imapfilter.py from crontab rather > than using -l (I am thinking that this would be a way > around the failures I have been getting). Is there a way > to specify the imap server and password from the command > line? I don't see it in the documentation. Sorry - I will look into the problem, but I haven't had a chance in the last couple of days. You can specify any option with the -o switch. For example: python sb_imapfilter.py -c -t -o imap:username:tony -o imap:password:mypass =Tony.Meyer From fheile at pacbell.net Wed Jan 5 23:01:49 2005 From: fheile at pacbell.net (Frank Heile) Date: Wed Jan 5 23:02:01 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Anti Phishing suggestion Message-ID: <200501052157.j05LvjGi009849@ylpvm25.prodigy.net> SpamBayes is GREAT! I have told everyone I talk with that they should use it to fight SPAM. However, one thing SpamBayes does not protect against is phishing emails. Here is what I do manually - could some developer please implement something like this in code for SpamBayes (or tell me why it won't work?): Whenever I get an email that is asking me to confirm or correct my personal information at some Web site I get suspicious automatically. Now in Outlook, when the cursor is over a hyperlink inside a message, it will display a popup showing the REAL URL that a click will take you to. The colored and underlined displayed text in the email message may be different than this real URL. So for any suspicious email, I just put my cursor over the link (without clicking) and it usually shows an address like: http://123.456.234.567/something... Whereas the text displayed for the link is something like: http://www.paypal.com/login.php So at that point it OBVIOUS (to me) that this is a fake phishing email since paypal.com would NOT have used a numeric URL address in this way. Doesn't everybody check suspicious hyper links like this before they click on the link? Now, since I do this by hand, why can't SpamBayes do something like this automatically? For example, SpamBayes should be able to easily parse the real URL and the displayed text for a link in an email message. If the text displayed looks like a URL address, it could do a DNS lookup on the address like "www.paypal.com" and see that it does not match real URL "123.456.234.567" and automatically mark the message as SPAM/Phish? As a matter of fact, the DNS lookup is probably unneeded, since the fact that a real looking label is used for a numeric address is pretty obviously a phishing email. In fact ANY numeric URL address is probably up to no good and I would be happy if they are deleted as spam. Is there some flaw in my arguments? Will the phishers soon overcome these techniques (probably somehow, but I can't think of how). Just Curious... From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Wed Jan 5 23:19:20 2005 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Wed Jan 5 23:19:34 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Anti Phishing suggestion Message-ID: It's an excellent idea, but I think that it's beyond the scope of SpamBayes per se. SB does not make any check of the data in the message, nor to the validity, truthfulness or legality of any claims therein. I think that the right solution would be another tool that will work like SB (an Outlook plug-in) which will add a button, "Check Phishiness" and will do what you suggest, displaying a phishiness score and would let the user decide what to do ("Delete as phish" or "do nothing"). On the proxy solution, maybe the same code will be hosted by the proxy, but will be invoked before or after SB filter, and will add its own annotation to the mail with 'Phish alert', so POP3/IMPA users will just need to add another filter rule for those. Just my $0.02 (not being a developer of SB, just a devoted user & spreading the SB gospel) Amir -----Original Message----- From: Frank Heile [mailto:fheile@pacbell.net] Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 00:02 To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Anti Phishing suggestion SpamBayes is GREAT! I have told everyone I talk with that they should use it to fight SPAM. However, one thing SpamBayes does not protect against is phishing emails. Here is what I do manually - could some developer please implement something like this in code for SpamBayes (or tell me why it won't work?): Whenever I get an email that is asking me to confirm or correct my personal information at some Web site I get suspicious automatically. Now in Outlook, when the cursor is over a hyperlink inside a message, it will display a popup showing the REAL URL that a click will take you to. The colored and underlined displayed text in the email message may be different than this real URL. So for any suspicious email, I just put my cursor over the link (without clicking) and it usually shows an address like: http://123.456.234.567/something... Whereas the text displayed for the link is something like: http://www.paypal.com/login.php So at that point it OBVIOUS (to me) that this is a fake phishing email since paypal.com would NOT have used a numeric URL address in this way. Doesn't everybody check suspicious hyper links like this before they click on the link? Now, since I do this by hand, why can't SpamBayes do something like this automatically? For example, SpamBayes should be able to easily parse the real URL and the displayed text for a link in an email message. If the text displayed looks like a URL address, it could do a DNS lookup on the address like "www.paypal.com" and see that it does not match real URL "123.456.234.567" and automatically mark the message as SPAM/Phish? As a matter of fact, the DNS lookup is probably unneeded, since the fact that a real looking label is used for a numeric address is pretty obviously a phishing email. In fact ANY numeric URL address is probably up to no good and I would be happy if they are deleted as spam. Is there some flaw in my arguments? Will the phishers soon overcome these techniques (probably somehow, but I can't think of how). Just Curious... _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From TJLWBECGSGWU at spammotel.com Wed Jan 5 23:48:43 2005 From: TJLWBECGSGWU at spammotel.com (Mathew Hendry) Date: Wed Jan 5 23:49:34 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Anti Phishing suggestion References: <200501052157.j05LvjGi009849@ylpvm25.prodigy.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 14:01:49 -0800, "Frank Heile" wrote: >for any suspicious email, I just put my cursor over >the link (without clicking) and it usually shows an address like: > >http://123.456.234.567/something... > >Whereas the text displayed for the link is something like: > >http://www.paypal.com/login.php > >So at that point it OBVIOUS (to me) that this is a fake phishing email since >paypal.com would NOT have used a numeric URL address in this way. Doesn't >everybody check suspicious hyper links like this before they click on the >link? Unfortunately, not all mail clients are kind enough to show the true URL when you hover over links. I'm pretty sure even the mighty Outlook didn't do that until Outlook 2003. I train all phishing mails as spam and, as a result, both they and my legitimate bank/paypal/ebay mails often appear as unsures. I manually check all of them, but never click on the links they contain. You're best to open your browser and type in the relevant address manually, as recommended by http://antiphishing.org. All money sites that I use keep track of everything on the site itself - the mails they send are only notifications. (There are exceptions, e.g. if you forget your password. But you'll know when you've done that and expect a very specific mail about it). >Now, since I do this by hand, why can't SpamBayes do something like this >automatically? For example, SpamBayes should be able to easily parse the >real URL and the displayed text for a link in an email message. If the text >displayed looks like a URL address, it could do a DNS lookup on the address >like "www.paypal.com" and see that it does not match real URL >"123.456.234.567" and automatically mark the message as SPAM/Phish? As far as I know, SpamBayes never marks a mail as spam on the basis of a single characteristic. "Hair trigger" rules like that are a risky business: consider legitimate mails from spam-related mailing lists, that often contain copies of spam messages. Instead, you might add a "suspicious_url:paypal" token so it would be considered along with all the others. -- Mat. From fheile at pacbell.net Wed Jan 5 23:55:54 2005 From: fheile at pacbell.net (Frank Heile) Date: Wed Jan 5 23:56:16 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Anti Phishing suggestion In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200501052256.j05Mucf6025945@ylpvm53.prodigy.net> Thanks. I am not a developer either, but I did know that SpamBayes does not parse the actual content of messages. However another possibility might be that at the point where SpamBayes is tokenizing the email content, it may be possible to change strings like "http://123.456.234.567/" into something generic like "http://NNN.NNN.NNN.NNN/" and then use the normal Bayesian technique to get these messages flagged as SPAM since I don't think any of my HAM messages ever use numeric URL addresses. This would probably only work for a while till the Phishers eventually use non-numeric addresses for their faked URLs. Developers? Is this possible/easier? -----Original Message----- From: Katz, Amir [mailto:Amir_Katz@bmc.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 2:19 PM To: Frank Heile Cc: spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Anti Phishing suggestion It's an excellent idea, but I think that it's beyond the scope of SpamBayes per se. SB does not make any check of the data in the message, nor to the validity, truthfulness or legality of any claims therein. I think that the right solution would be another tool that will work like SB (an Outlook plug-in) which will add a button, "Check Phishiness" and will do what you suggest, displaying a phishiness score and would let the user decide what to do ("Delete as phish" or "do nothing"). On the proxy solution, maybe the same code will be hosted by the proxy, but will be invoked before or after SB filter, and will add its own annotation to the mail with 'Phish alert', so POP3/IMPA users will just need to add another filter rule for those. Just my $0.02 (not being a developer of SB, just a devoted user & spreading the SB gospel) Amir From junge at wimo.com Thu Jan 6 12:36:01 2005 From: junge at wimo.com (Volkmar Junge) Date: Thu Jan 6 12:37:37 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] possible bug with spambayes? Message-ID: Hello, I found no hint in your FAQs so better to send a mail.... I'm having the outlook plugin and it makes me REALLY happy... just ONE exception. My outlook connects to the mailserver every 3 mins to look for mails (POP3). No problem at all. But when I switch on the computer in the morning maybe 50 mails arrive the same time. In this case, there is NO spamfiltering! All spam remains in the inbox. Win98SE (never touch a running system!), outlook 2000. Outlook is included in the autostart folder. A log file attached. you guys are doing a great job... best spamfilter and best outlook integration I found! best regards Volkmar Junge WiMo Antennen und Elektronik GmbH, Am Gaexwald 14, 76863 Herxheim, Germany Tel. (+49) 7276 96680 FAX (+49) 7276 6978 http://www.wimo.com e-mail: junge@wimo.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If you'd like to do > this, open the file "default_bayes_customize.ini" in your data directory > (create one if there isn't one already) in a text editor (like notepad or > wordpad). Add these lines (excluding the """) to the end of the file: > > """ > [Classifier] > x-use_bigrams:True > """ Some users may find it confusing to have to add specifications to a (possibly missing) configuration file. I suggest that you include a configuration file in every release, with all possible options specified but commented out. (Ideally, the comments would include a brief explanation of each item.) Then you could simply advise the user to (for example) "uncomment the x-use_bigrams option". Bob MIS Department, City of Cambridge 831 Massachusetts Ave, Cambridge MA 02139 ? 617-349-4217 ? fax 617-349-6165 From lindagrant at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Jan 6 13:46:59 2005 From: lindagrant at blueyonder.co.uk (Linda Grant) Date: Thu Jan 6 13:47:06 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] no spam caught Message-ID: <001301c4f3ed$d4de1760$61be2d52@D4JQC01J> I installed Spambayes a few days ago, having previously used the anti-spam programme that comes with my Norton anti-Virus. It caught most, but not all spam. The numbers of spam I get in my in-box isn't large but some of it quite nasty porn which is why I'm keen to get almost everything. I disabled it and have been training Spambayes for a few days but so far it hasn't caught a single spam. Not one. So far it has trained on about 20 spam messages and about 80 good ones. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This is not "learning" time as, if I change folders immediately after clicking, the entry move is shown at the same time. Case 2: Assume multiple entries in "Junk". Select the first entry, click "Recover" - no immediate response. select the second entry, click "recover", both move at once. Case 3: Open outlook in the morning, 20+ emails (mostly spam) are in the inbox. I assume they are moved to either "Junk" or "Suspect" immediately after being processed, but "appear" to move in blocks of 5 or 6. Is there any way to make the refresh immediate like it was on my old slower machine, or is it a timing issue that I'm stuck with??? Chris From jbrooks at omnexcontrols.com Fri Jan 7 01:22:27 2005 From: jbrooks at omnexcontrols.com (Jim Brooks) Date: Fri Jan 7 01:22:46 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: a neat feature Message-ID: <350E357E0657244587B795449B7D826A11F2D7@omnex-exchng1.omnex.msad> First let me say how great the program is. Spam has become such a problem for us all and this is a real blessing. I did think of a feature that would be nice to add. I seem to get around every couple of minutes along office emails. I wan't to respond to the email alerts but spam and goo emails make the same sound. It would be neat to add another sound when the email is moved to suspected or bad directories so I know I don't need to check what that last email was. Sincerely, Jim Brooks Hardware Designer, Research & Development OMNEX Control Systems Inc. #74-1833 Coast Meridian Rd. Port Coquitlam, B.C. Canada V3C 6G5 Phone: (604) 944 9247 Fax: (604) 944 9267 > Email: jbrooks@omnexcontrols.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050106/5ebf5039/attachment.htm From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jan 7 04:18:18 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Jan 7 04:18:25 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] problems with availability spambayes for all users In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have found something on your troubleshooting pages, > but I cannot execute the command as stated below. > > "c:\Program Files\SpamBayes\bin\outlook_addin_register.exe" hkey_local_machine > > > Could you please let me know how and what I should do? I > understand I have to change the path accordingly, but that > is where my understanding stops. We are working with Outlook > 2003 in combination with Exchange. 1. Open a Command Prompt window (e.g. Start->Run->cmd.exe or Windows-R) 2. Type in the command above, modifying the path if necessary. (This does the work, and IIRC you get a little messagebox telling you that it was done). 3. Close the Command Prompt window. =Tony.Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jan 7 04:18:19 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Jan 7 04:18:26 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Win32 Command Line In-Reply-To: <000601c4f2cb$f819f4b0$6501a8c0@laptop> Message-ID: > I read that you we able to integrate Mail Enable > and SpamBayes any chance I can get a howto? > > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/2004-October/014982.html If you read that again, you'll see that someone else did, and was offering one, and I just said that I'd put it online. AFAICT, I have never received the how-to, so have nothing to offer, sorry. I imagine that it's not that hard to do, though. Give it a go and ask on spambayes@python.org if you run into troubles. =Tony.Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jan 7 04:21:52 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Jan 7 04:21:58 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] no spam caught In-Reply-To: <001301c4f3ed$d4de1760$61be2d52@D4JQC01J> Message-ID: [...] > I [...] have been training Spambayes for a few days but > so far it hasn't caught a single spam. Not one. So far > it has trained on about 20 spam messages and about 80 good > ones. What are messages scoring? What mail program (e.g. Outlook, Outlook Express, Eudora, ...) and SpamBayes application (Outlook plug-in, sb_imapfilter, sb_server, ...) and operating system (Windows 9x, Windows XP, Mac, Linux, ...) are you using? =Tony.Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jan 7 04:35:08 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Jan 7 04:35:38 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] spam that crashes my spambayes In-Reply-To: <1104953153.31625.12.camel@bigboy.home.net> Message-ID: > This is an example of a spam email that crashes my spambayes > installation. Am running spambayes 1.0.1 on SuSE Linux 9.1. Some of > the log output follows. [...] > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/shelve.py", line 119, in __getitem__ > value = Unpickler(f).load() > UnpicklingError: unpickling stack underflow This is a very unusual error. My best guess would be that the database is corrupted somehow and should be replaced (retraining would be the easiest way). If this happens with lots of messages, irregardless of whether they are ham or spam, that would strengthen the guess. =Tony.Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jan 7 04:35:07 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Jan 7 04:35:38 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <000001c4f2b4$c6fa6430$650010ac@laptop> Message-ID: > I've read and tried everything in the trouble-shooting > section and can't figure out how to "configure a spam file". > Yes, I am set for "enable"! I assume you are using Outlook and the SpamBayes Outlook plug-in. If not, please let us know what you are using. "Configure a spam file" doesn't appear in the troubleshooting guide. I'm guessing that you are trying to understand how to train SpamBayes. If that isn't the case, please let us know. When a message appears in your unsure (Possible Junk) folder, select it and click either the "Delete as spam" or "Recover from spam" buttons in the toolbar. If you get any spam in folders SpamBayes is watching, then select them and click the "Delete as spam" button. If you get any good mail in your spam folder, select them and click the "Recover from spam" button. This will train and move the message appropriately. =Tony.Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jan 7 04:45:11 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Jan 7 04:45:18 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: a neat feature In-Reply-To: <350E357E0657244587B795449B7D826A11F2D7@omnex-exchng1.omnex.msad> Message-ID: > I did think of a feature that would be nice to add. > I seem to get around every couple of minutes along office > emails. I wan't to respond to the email alerts but spam > and goo emails make the same sound. > It would be neat to add another sound when the email is > moved to suspected or bad directories so I know I don't > need to check what that last email was. There is a "notification sound" feature implemented for the 1.1 release, which should do what you want. I believe the current explaination of how it will work is: """ After a batch of messages is received, a sound is played according to the "most interesting" classification of messages received. If any good messages were received then the good sound is played. If there were no good messages, but there were unsure messages, then the unsure sound is played. If only spam messages were received then the spam sound is played. Any of the sound file options can be left empty if you do not want to play a sound for that message classification. For example: if you only want SpamBayes to notify you for unsure or spam messages then configure notify_ham_sound to an empty string (the default value). In this case, good messages will actually be ignored in the check for most interesting message classification, so the unsure or spam sound will be played even if good messages were received. There is currently no way to configure for "do not play a sound if any good messages are received, but play a sound if only unsure or spam messages were received. """ =Tony.Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jan 7 04:55:17 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Jan 7 04:55:38 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Spam Clues: Schulz asked me to send you this. In-Reply-To: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F50033933E7@SPIKE.city> Message-ID: > Some users may find it confusing to have to add specifications > to a (possibly missing) configuration file. Agreed! Any options that we expect people would actually want to use are exposed in the GUI - but there are too many possible options to expose them all. A lot of this is my fault, for two reasons: 1. I encouraged people to try out experimental options in the release notes for 1.0.1, and I sometimes suggest using them in spambayes@python.org messages (particularly the use_bigrams option, which I quite like). 2. The documentation (for Outlook users) is very lacking in this regard. In fact, there pretty much is none apart from spambayes@python.org archives. I plan to remedy #2 before 1.0.2/1.1a1, so that there are clear instructions about how Outlook users can access these experimental/very advanced options. > I suggest that you include a configuration file in every release, > with all possible options specified but commented out. (Ideally, > the comments would include a brief explanation of each item.) > Then you could simply advise the user to (for example) "uncomment > the x-use_bigrams option". I like this idea - thanks! I may very well do this, or something similar as well as improving the documentation. =Tony.Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jan 7 04:55:16 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Jan 7 04:55:39 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] possible bug with spambayes? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > My outlook connects to the mailserver every 3 mins to look for mails (POP3). > No problem at all. > > But when I switch on the computer in the morning maybe 50 mails arrive the > same time. > In this case, there is NO spamfiltering! All spam remains in the inbox. [...] > A log file attached. [In the log] > The timer is enabled, but one of the timer intervals values is zero > You must set both intervals before the timer will enable I suspect that this is the problem. Open the SpamBayes Manager dialog and go to the Advanced tab. Set the timer values to non-zero, and see if that solves it. IIRC, 1.0 won't let you enter zero values (or maybe that's planned for 1.1 - I can't recall exactly) which avoids this. =Tony.Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jan 7 04:58:36 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Jan 7 04:58:42 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes with Blackberry In-Reply-To: <590B35DEC866F3418A95EF999EF338BB4234B7@duos01.duoson.com> Message-ID: > I am using a Blackberry device where my mails are > re-directed from my inbox to my BB. Is there a parameter > I can set to receive also my mails without the spam on my BB. > > Actually I am not sure how this work, Some seem to be > filtered and other not. Is it related with the delay factor? The way things work (by default) is that SpamBayes waits for a certain amount of time after Outlook tells it that there is a new message in a folder that is being watched before doing any filtering. The intent is that during this time all Outlook rules are processed (any messages that are moved are not filtered - unless they land in another folder that is being watched). The default timer values ought to work in most cases, but can be adjusted in the Advanced tab of the SpamBayes Manager. Without the timer system, what happens is that it is completely unknown whether, for any given new message, SpamBayes will get to it first, or Outlook's rules will get to it first, or whether they'll try and access it at the same time. This causes lots of difficulties, so we do the best we can, and ensure that SpamBayes runs last. The "some seem to be filtered and other[s are] not", I suspect is because whatever causes the Blackberry sync (is this an Outlook rule or something that the Blackberry software does? I don't have any experience with them myself) to occur happens around the same time as SpamBayes is processing. Adjusting the timer values may help with this. If you can get the Blackberry sync to wait a bit longer, then that will probably mean that spam messages are out of the folder, and so aren't transferred. I don't know if this is possible, though. In the longer term, the upcoming SpamBayes 1.1 release includes an option that lets you move good messages into a folder, like spam messages are moved into the spam folder. You can use this (this is one of the main reasons for the addition) to then just have the Blackberry sync that good folder, into which all the good mail and no spam will arrive. =Tony.Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jan 7 05:02:21 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Jan 7 05:02:27 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Virus Bearing Attachments In-Reply-To: <001501c4f41c$9f63dc80$c201a8c0@zeph> Message-ID: > Is there a way to avoid antivirus checks as > SpamBayes does its work? I have a colleague who > is trying out your software, but every time it > identifies/moves spam which contains a virus, she gets an alert. Is this the Outlook plug-in or sb_server? The easiest thing, if possible, would be to get the anti-virus software to run over the mail first, removing any virii, before SpamBayes gets hold of it. Alternatively, with sb_server, you might be able to tell the anti-virus software not to bother checking one particular folder (the SpamBayes data directory), and that would solve it. =Tony.Meyer From tim.peters at gmail.com Fri Jan 7 05:23:24 2005 From: tim.peters at gmail.com (Tim Peters) Date: Fri Jan 7 05:23:26 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] spam that crashes my spambayes In-Reply-To: References: <1104953153.31625.12.camel@bigboy.home.net> Message-ID: <1f7befae050106202354ee9a78@mail.gmail.com> [Gerald Pine] >> This is an example of a spam email that crashes my spambayes >> installation. Am running spambayes 1.0.1 on SuSE Linux 9.1. Some of >> the log output follows. >> [...] >> File "/usr/lib/python2.3/shelve.py", line 119, in __getitem__ >> value = Unpickler(f).load() >> UnpicklingError: unpickling stack underflow [Tony Meyer] > This is a very unusual error. My best guess would be that the database is > corrupted somehow and should be replaced (retraining would be the easiest > way). If this happens with lots of messages, irregardless of whether they > are ham or spam, that would strengthen the guess. Unfortunately, I have to agree, although it screams "corruption" to me without more evidence than we already have. This can only happen if the pickle is ill-formed, and the only way to get an ill-formed pickle is for bytes to get corrupted (on disk, or in RAM, or on a communication path between disk and RAM, or ...). Even if it's disk corruption, databases aren't likely to notice it, since it occurs inside the user's stored data, not in the database's own administrative structures (to which latter database code *is* sensitive). From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jan 7 05:55:40 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Jan 7 05:55:47 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] My Junk Suspect message are blanks In-Reply-To: <20050104225340.D0FEF1E4002@bag.python.org> Message-ID: > Most of the messages spambayes sends to the Junk > Suspect folder, show up there as blank message. > All left is the envelope! Before they are filtered, are they blank? (i.e. is this a problem with receiving blank messages, or a problem with SpamBayes altering messages). SpamBayes (Outlook plugin) doesn't touch the message content (the closest it comes is adding to a couple of Outlook user-defined fields), so it would be very odd for SpamBayes to be losing the message somehow. You can test the behaviour by either using the "Filter Now" command or by putting messages (e.g. copies) that SpamBayes hasn't seen before in the Inbox and making them unread. =Tony.Meyer From paulbm at juno.com Fri Jan 7 13:16:22 2005 From: paulbm at juno.com (Paul B Martin) Date: Fri Jan 7 13:13:56 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy: WORKS WITH JUNO? Message-ID: <20050107.071622.-327993.1.paulbm@juno.com> I am using SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.0.1 (November 2004) (binary), with version 2.3.4 (#53, May 25 2004, 21:17:02) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] of Python; my operating system is Windows 4.10.67766446.1 ( A ). I have trained 0 ham and 4 spam. The problem I am having is: Can this program work with Juno 5.0 (build 33) alone, or do I need to use another program such as Outlook or Eudora? It doesn't seem to notice any e-mail at all unless I save it as a text file, export it, and then browse thru the Spambayes Interface to find it. I have the settings as follows: POP3 Proxy Options: Remote Servers: pop.juno.com SpamBayes Ports: 110 SMTP Proxy Options: Remote Servers: smtp.juno.com SpamBayes Ports: 25 These are the values recommended by Juno tec support. Thanks! Paul -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/octet-stream Size: 171 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050107/06f3a2fc/attachment.obj From RMezzone at PJSolomon.com Fri Jan 7 14:20:56 2005 From: RMezzone at PJSolomon.com (Robert Mezzone) Date: Fri Jan 7 14:21:03 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes with Blackberry Message-ID: <1254A68F4903D411B24800508B1220E90629FA24@solomon1.pjsc.internal> The BB synch with corporate email is immediate. There isn't much you do to delay it, I haven't been able to find a setting on the BB server. However, the following will work in a corporate environment with wireless email reconciliation turned on. Never tested in a standalone configuration.. Make the Junk Email and Junk Suspects folders subfolders of the Inbox and have the BB software synch your Inbox and it's subfolders. Set the handheld to hide filed messages. The email will be delivered to the handheld. Spambayes will process the messages and move it if necessary. After a few minutes the BB will do a wireless synch and move it to the corresponding folder on the BB. With filed messages hidden the message disappears, but still exists on the handheld. The nice thing is, you can view the messages in the junk-suspects folder on the BB. If it's HAM, file it in the BB's Inbox, a wireless synch will occur, move it to the Outlook Inbox and Spambayes will retrain on the message. Same will work if you file it in the Junk-Email. folder on the BB. So you can actually train Spambayes from a BB.... Hth. Robert -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org To: Goudreault, Gilles ; spambayes@python.org Sent: Thu Jan 06 22:58:36 2005 Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spambayes with Blackberry > I am using a Blackberry device where my mails are > re-directed from my inbox to my BB. Is there a parameter > I can set to receive also my mails without the spam on my BB. > > Actually I am not sure how this work, Some seem to be > filtered and other not. Is it related with the delay factor? The way things work (by default) is that SpamBayes waits for a certain amount of time after Outlook tells it that there is a new message in a folder that is being watched before doing any filtering. The intent is that during this time all Outlook rules are processed (any messages that are moved are not filtered - unless they land in another folder that is being watched). The default timer values ought to work in most cases, but can be adjusted in the Advanced tab of the SpamBayes Manager. Without the timer system, what happens is that it is completely unknown whether, for any given new message, SpamBayes will get to it first, or Outlook's rules will get to it first, or whether they'll try and access it at the same time. This causes lots of difficulties, so we do the best we can, and ensure that SpamBayes runs last. The "some seem to be filtered and other[s are] not", I suspect is because whatever causes the Blackberry sync (is this an Outlook rule or something that the Blackberry software does? I don't have any experience with them myself) to occur happens around the same time as SpamBayes is processing. Adjusting the timer values may help with this. If you can get the Blackberry sync to wait a bit longer, then that will probably mean that spam messages are out of the folder, and so aren't transferred. I don't know if this is possible, though. In the longer term, the upcoming SpamBayes 1.1 release includes an option that lets you move good messages into a folder, like spam messages are moved into the spam folder. You can use this (this is one of the main reasons for the addition) to then just have the Blackberry sync that good folder, into which all the good mail and no spam will arrive. =Tony.Meyer _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From carolm at townshipofrobinson.com Fri Jan 7 16:08:59 2005 From: carolm at townshipofrobinson.com (Carol Merks) Date: Fri Jan 7 16:10:02 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: I am having a problem with Spam deleting items that I wish to keep. Is there any way that I can view my deleted spam or correct it from deleting items of importance? Thank you. Carol Merks Township of Robinson 1000 Church Hill Road Pittsburgh, PA 15205-9006 From remy.hessels at ratp.fr Fri Jan 7 16:41:28 2005 From: remy.hessels at ratp.fr (remy.hessels@ratp.fr) Date: Fri Jan 7 16:41:36 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes 1.1 Message-ID: <686515F393A7D7118F1D00508B60AF4208C7296D@nyplme14.neuilly.ratp> Hello, I am testing SpamBayes 1.0.1 with outlook add-in and I think this is the best anstispam for this client (Some people/vendor are saying that Bayesian analysis is already out of date but SpamBayes prove that this is not true). I've read in your web site that you're working on v1.1 that includes a localization ( french localization is in my interest ) and I saw in the CVS tree and your forums that some work about that as been done. However , have you plan any release date for this version, or can you tell me approximatively when it should be ? Thanks in advance and congratulation for you great job. R?my Hessels -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050107/b608d6ba/attachment.html From gdpine at pacbell.net Fri Jan 7 18:20:11 2005 From: gdpine at pacbell.net (Gerald Pine) Date: Fri Jan 7 18:20:20 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] spam that crashes my spambayes In-Reply-To: <1f7befae050106202354ee9a78@mail.gmail.com> References: <1104953153.31625.12.camel@bigboy.home.net> <1f7befae050106202354ee9a78@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1105118411.13860.4.camel@bigboy.home.net> Thanks, guys. I hate to go back to scratch and retrain, but I do see the error frequently. On Thu, 2005-01-06 at 20:23, Tim Peters wrote: > [Gerald Pine] > >> This is an example of a spam email that crashes my spambayes > >> installation. Am running spambayes 1.0.1 on SuSE Linux 9.1. Some of > >> the log output follows. > >> [...] > >> File "/usr/lib/python2.3/shelve.py", line 119, in __getitem__ > >> value = Unpickler(f).load() > >> UnpicklingError: unpickling stack underflow > > [Tony Meyer] > > This is a very unusual error. My best guess would be that the database is > > corrupted somehow and should be replaced (retraining would be the easiest > > way). If this happens with lots of messages, irregardless of whether they > > are ham or spam, that would strengthen the guess. > > Unfortunately, I have to agree, although it screams "corruption" to me > without more evidence than we already have. This can only happen if > the pickle is ill-formed, and the only way to get an ill-formed pickle > is for bytes to get corrupted (on disk, or in RAM, or on a > communication path between disk and RAM, or ...). Even if it's disk > corruption, databases aren't likely to notice it, since it occurs > inside the user's stored data, not in the database's own > administrative structures (to which latter database code *is* > sensitive). -- Gerald D. Pine 1530 4th Street, #26 Sacramento, CA 95814 phone: (916) 444-5413 email: gdpine@pacbell.net From kenny.pitt at gmail.com Fri Jan 7 18:44:18 2005 From: kenny.pitt at gmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Fri Jan 7 18:44:23 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] problems with availability spambayes for all users In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <41deca75.725d8057.2317.0b3a@smtp.gmail.com> Tony Meyer wrote: >> I have found something on your troubleshooting pages, >> but I cannot execute the command as stated below. >> >> "c:\Program Files\SpamBayes\bin\outlook_addin_register.exe" >> hkey_local_machine >> >> >> Could you please let me know how and what I should do? I >> understand I have to change the path accordingly, but that >> is where my understanding stops. We are working with Outlook >> 2003 in combination with Exchange. > > 1. Open a Command Prompt window (e.g. Start->Run->cmd.exe or > Windows-R) > 2. Type in the command above, modifying the path if necessary. > (This does the work, and IIRC you get a little messagebox telling > you that it was done). > 3. Close the Command Prompt window. An additional note just in case: be aware that the double-quotes in the command are significant. Because "Program Files" has a space in it, you MUST surround the entire command name with quotes. Otherwise, you'll get an error something like: """ 'c:\Program' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. """ -- Kenny Pitt From kenny.pitt at gmail.com Fri Jan 7 19:03:10 2005 From: kenny.pitt at gmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Fri Jan 7 19:03:17 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] problem on NetBSD In-Reply-To: <20050106135035.GA24491@bantha.org> Message-ID: <41decee2.11b14ceb.7794.019c@smtp.gmail.com> Michael Davidson wrote: > I have noticed that in dbmstorage.py there is this code: > > if sys.platform == "win32" and sys.version_info < (2,3) and \ > dbm_type == "dbhash": > dbm_type = "db3hash" > > This is basically what I have to do to get spambayes working on my > system. whichdb returns "dbhash" because the "bsddb" module in Python 2.3+ is really the same as "bsddb3" with a different name. I don't have access to NetBSD myself, so try the following fix and see if it works for you. If it does, let me know and I'll put it into the code for the next release. In the open_dbhash function in dbmstorage.py, you should see the following line: """ import bsddb """ Change that line to the following: """ try: import bsddb except ImportError: import bsddb3 as bsddb """ -- Kenny Pitt From mdavids at bantha.org Fri Jan 7 19:17:14 2005 From: mdavids at bantha.org ('Michael Davidson') Date: Fri Jan 7 19:17:18 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] problem on NetBSD In-Reply-To: <41decee2.11b14ceb.7794.019c@smtp.gmail.com> References: <20050106135035.GA24491@bantha.org> <41decee2.11b14ceb.7794.019c@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20050107181714.GA26368@bantha.org> On Fri, 07 Jan 2005, Kenny Pitt (kenny.pitt@gmail.com) wrote: > whichdb returns "dbhash" because the "bsddb" module in Python 2.3+ is really > the same as "bsddb3" with a different name. I don't have access to NetBSD Ah, I didn't realize that they were the same. > myself, so try the following fix and see if it works for you. If it does, > let me know and I'll put it into the code for the next release. That fix certainly works. Thanks for explaining that. Michael From n.tanner at lunchclub.net Fri Jan 7 22:53:26 2005 From: n.tanner at lunchclub.net (Nate Tanner) Date: Fri Jan 7 22:53:58 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] tons of false positives after upgrading Message-ID: <01f901c4f503$51fda1a0$0203a8c0@Nate> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From vbargsten at freenet.de Sat Jan 8 16:28:46 2005 From: vbargsten at freenet.de (ApFel) Date: Sat Jan 8 16:26:43 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] sb_service doesnt want to stay started Message-ID: <996060460.20050108162846@freenet.de> Guten Tag Tony Meyer, i attached a screenshot of the error message. by "doesnt work" i mean that i get this error message immediatly after pressing start. however, sb_service shows shortly on taskmanager. in english the message means as said the spambayes service was started on local computer and stoppped; some services are automatically stopped when they are idling, like alarm services and performance protocolling services. the webinterface works normal (like everything else) when i start sb_server.exe manually form the explorer. nothing gets added when starting the service. i even deleted the log files and only one spambayesservice1.log is created with the mentioned content. am Sonntag, 2. Januar 2005 um 06:41 schrieben Sie: >> When I start the service one of the log files >> SpamBayesService{1-4}.log is newly created but only contains the >> following: TM> [...] >> Connecting to the Service Control Manager >> Loading database... SMTP Listener on port 112 is proxying >> mx.freenet.de:25 >> Listener on port 111 is proxying pop3.freenet.de:110 >> User interface url is http://localhost:8880/ TM> That looks fine. Does nothing get added when it stops? >> I run the service with the local user account i always use. Setting it >> to use "Local System" account doesnt work either. TM> By "doesn't work", do you mean that it won't even start, or has the same TM> problem with unexpectedly stopping? TM> After how long does the service stop? Immediately after it is started? TM> After a period of time? After you check for mail? After you use the web TM> interface? 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File "win32com\server\register.pyc", line 483, in UseCommandLine File "win32com\server\register.pyc", line 413, in RegisterClasses File "win32com\server\register.pyc", line 181, in RegisterServer File "win32com\server\register.pyc", line 32, in _set_string pywintypes.error: (5, 'RegSetValue', 'Access is denied.') ------------------------------------------------ Ronald S. Friedman, CPA Friedman, Cohen, Taubman & Company, LLC Certified Public Accountants / RonF@fctcpa.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050108/bd1e9467/attachment.htm From rcross at cvzoom.net Sat Jan 8 17:45:41 2005 From: rcross at cvzoom.net (RCCross) Date: Sat Jan 8 17:51:39 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: <000a01c4f5a1$7f900060$d7d8ef18@zoominternet.net> I am currently trying to install Spambayes, not sure of the Version. I am using Windows 95 as the Operating System. The error log is copied below. Thank you. Traceback (most recent call last): File "pop3proxy_tray.py", line 44, in ? File "win32api.pyc", line 9, in ? File "win32api.pyc", line 7, in __load ImportError: DLL load failed: A device attached to the system is not functioning. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050108/c489928f/attachment.htm From TJLWBECGSGWU at spammotel.com Sun Jan 9 13:16:06 2005 From: TJLWBECGSGWU at spammotel.com (Mathew Hendry) Date: Sun Jan 9 13:16:53 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Cool feature... References: <3d5es01b2otabb4euj0s9h9hddb9f3snls@4ax.com> Message-ID: <1i72u0djc5a7llnhb6oohr5j8f1r67lon1@4ax.com> On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 18:28:29 +0000, Mathew Hendry wrote: >On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:25:26 +1300, "Tony Meyer" wrote: > >>Do you have POPfile doing other classification (work, home, etc), or just >>these three? > >Just those three. Really all I want the feature for is to remove >unwanted-but-not-spam messages - viruses and misdirected bounces for >instance - from the spambin, because I report a fair amount of spam through >SpamCop and don't want to be reporting the wrong stuff. :) Well, it seems SpamCop have quietly changed their rules, and now allow virus, virus warning, bounce, C/R challenge and OOO autoresponder messages to be reported if they're misdirected. Away with Outclass. :) (The only feature I miss is the ability to control notifications for new messages, but I see that's already in the works for SpamBayes). -- Mat. From hmurrayjr at pop-server.triad.rr.com Sun Jan 9 17:45:48 2005 From: hmurrayjr at pop-server.triad.rr.com (hmurrayjr@pop-server.triad.rr.com) Date: Sun Jan 9 17:46:23 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy: I receive a 500 server error when I attempt to train on recent messages. Message-ID: <200501091645.j09Gjm4R005466@ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: SpamBayesServer1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050109/e26c7fde/SpamBayesServer1.obj -------------- next part -------------- I am using SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.0rc2 (June 2004) (binary), with version 2.3.3 (#51, Feb 13 2004, 14:39:56) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] of Python; my operating system is Windows 5.1.2600.2 (Service Pack 2). I have trained 595 ham and 1108 spam. The problem I am having is: I receive a 500 server error when I attempt to train on recent messages. From rbriganti at pol.net Sun Jan 9 20:49:47 2005 From: rbriganti at pol.net (Robert Briganti) Date: Sun Jan 9 20:49:50 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes not working Message-ID: <41E18ADB.4030005@pol.net> Help. Spambayes is not filtering anymore. When I forward the e-mails to to the local server and then try to train on the website I get the following error:<> <>500 Server error<> Traceback (most recent call last): File "spambayes\Dibbler.pyc", line 461, in found_terminator File "spambayes\ProxyUI.pyc", line 391, in onReview File "spambayes\Corpus.pyc", line 214, in takeMessage File "spambayes\FileCorpus.pyc", line 140, in addMessage File "spambayes\Corpus.pyc", line 134, in addMessage File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 588, in onAddMessage File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 598, in train File "spambayes\message.pyc", line 260, in setId File "spambayes\message.pyc", line 118, in _getState File "shelve.pyc", line 118, in __getitem__ File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 116, in __getitem__ DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') Please help. Bob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You need to retrain... -- Skip Montanaro skip@mojam.com http://www.mojam.com/ From guyeden at cox.net Sun Jan 9 23:33:52 2005 From: guyeden at cox.net (Guy Eden) Date: Sun Jan 9 23:33:57 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] question Message-ID: <000001c4f69b$4cadaa30$1702a8c0@enet.sharplabs.com> is there a way to port my ham/spam settings from one machine to another? I would like to export my settings e.g. from my work machine to my home machine. Thanks. Guy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050109/c6be6076/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Jan 9 23:57:25 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Jan 9 23:58:06 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I am having a problem with Spam deleting items that I wish to > keep. SpamBayes is likely to need ongoing training as the mail that you receive changes. It is important that you train on any mistakes that are made (and possibly also mail that ends up in the unsure (Possible Junk) folder. To train, just select the message that was incorrectly classified and click the "Delete as spam" or "Recover from spam" button in the toolbar. > Is there any way that I can view my deleted spam or > correct it from deleting items of importance? SpamBayes doesn't delete any messages. Just look in your spam (Junk) folder, and it will all be there. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jan 10 00:11:20 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jan 10 00:12:17 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] I've upgrade to outlook 2003 and spambayes will NOTinstall In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I've upgrade to outlook 2003 and spambayes will NOTinstall > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "addin.py", line 1546, in ? > File "win32com\server\register.pyc", line 483, in UseCommandLine > File "win32com\server\register.pyc", line 413, in RegisterClasses > File "win32com\server\register.pyc", line 181, in RegisterServer > File "win32com\server\register.pyc", line 32, in _set_string > pywintypes.error: (5, 'RegSetValue', 'Access is denied.') This is trying to write a value to the Windows registry (to tell Outlook that the plug-in exists) and is getting an "Access denied" error. Does the user you are logged in as have permission to write to the registry (by default HKEY_LOCAL_USER)? If not, you'll need to log in as a user that does (and register for all users, as described in the troubleshooting guide). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jan 10 00:17:37 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jan 10 00:18:12 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > is there a way to port my ham/spam settings from one > machine to another? I would like to export my settings > e.g. from my work machine to my home machine. If by settings you mean the configuration, then: If you are using the Outlook plug-in: You can copy the {profile name}.ini file in your SpamBayes data directory to the other machine. However, it's unlikely this is much use - you'll have to reselect the filter/unsure/spam folders, as the ids will differ (unless, maybe, they are all on the same Exchange server). Apart from that, there are hardly any settings, and it would be easier to just redo any choices. If you are using a different SpamBayes application: You can copy the configuration file - the web interface configuration pages have the path to the file at the top of the page. Simply copy it to the corresponding place on the other machine. If by settings you mean the training, then: If you are using the Outlook plug-in: Please see FAQ 3.6: If you are using a different SpamBayes application: The configuration page on the web interface lists the 'message info' and training database paths. Simply copy these to the corresponding places on the other machine. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jan 10 00:23:33 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jan 10 00:24:14 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy: I receive a 500 server errorwhen I attempt to train on recent messages. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > The problem I am having is: I receive a 500 server error when > I attempt to train on recent messages. Could you please copy the information in the 500 error and send it to us? Unfortunately it's not included in the log file that was attached to your report, so we don't know what the problem might be. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jan 10 00:33:10 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jan 10 00:33:55 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: a neat feature In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [R?my Hessels] > I've read in your web site that you're working on v1.1 that > includes a localization ( french localization is in my interest ) That's correct, and the French localization is soaring ahead, so looks certain to be done - it should definitely be in 1.1a1. > and I saw in the CVS tree and your forums that some work about > that as been done. > However , have you plan any release date for this version, or > can you tell me approximatively when it should be ? [Jim Brooks] > When will 1.1 be out, I just updated and the latest is 1.01. It's hard to be certain, because everything depends on volunteer time, which can be unexpectedly reduced. However, assuming that I am the release manager for 1.0.2 and the first 1.1 (which is probably a reasonable guess), then my best guess would be: 1.0.2 This is a bugfix release only - i.e. it fixes bugs with the 1.0.1 release, but contains no new features. I expect this to be released before the end of January (there's a long weekend at the very end here, so possibly then). 1.1a1 This is a first alpha release of the 1.1 branch. There are a *lot* of changes in 1.1 from the 1.0.x line - however, I do believe we are getting close to finishing up adding the bits we wanted for 1.1, so it's probably a good idea to get a release out reasonably soon that interested people can test. This is an alpha release, however, so is only for those willing to test reasonably cutting edge stuff (although it has undergone a reasonable amount of testing by the developers and other CVS users). I expect that this will be released about the same time as 1.0.2 (i.e. end of January). What happens after that depends on how many problems with the alpha release there are. I hope that it will go something like: 1.1a2 End of February. 1.1b1 Mid-March. 1.1rc1 End of March. 1.1final Start of April. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jan 10 00:42:45 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jan 10 00:43:43 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] tons of false positives after upgrading In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > i had been using version 0.3 of spambayes for a long time > (XP/outlook express) and it was working fairly well. i > recently upgraded to 1.0.1, Wow - that's quite a jump! > and now i get a ton of false positives (including the > confirmation and welcome messages from this mailing list !!) > probably close to 20% of my valid emails are being marked > as spam. With such a large jump, the easiest solution, particularly to take advantage of the various improvements in SpamBayes over that time, would be to retrain from scratch. Mistake-based training (c.f. ) should result in high accuracy (certainly higher than you're getting right now) with only a few dozen messages trained. > here is the info from the Message Clues page (the "Clues" link) > from one of the false positives. it is marked as 99.7% spam > probability! and it appears that it is counting the "spam," > string in the 'subject' and 'to' fields as part of the reason > to consider it spam (?), even though those were added by Spambayes. The latter is a known bug that will be fixed in 1.1 (it's fixed in CVS). They are, unfortunately, very strong clues in this example message. I suspect that maybe one of the reasons for the sudden change is that you might have been using the experimental ham/spam imbalance option that SpamBayes used to include, which is completely gone these days. Suddenly not using that could have quite an impact. > although 0.754605 7 8 This is a concern - you have trained 7 ham messages and 8 spam messages with "although" in them, and the score is definitely spam. The most probable cause for this is the training imbalance (1299::3644 or ~1:2.8), although that doesn't really seem all that bad (maybe those counts are out? Given the number of database problems that have been fixed since 0.3 there's a moderate chance that the database is in shoddy state). Generally a roughly balanced database is better. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jan 10 01:15:41 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jan 10 01:16:13 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy: WORKS WITH JUNO? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > The problem I am having is: Can this program work with Juno 5.0 (build > 33) alone, or do I need to use another program such as > Outlook or Eudora? I'm not familiar with Juno, sorry, and their website doesn't give any immediate clues. Is this some sort of webmail type system, or a mail client similar to Outlook/Eudora? If the former, then SpamBayes won't work. If the latter (which the settings you described hints towards) then you should be able to use it without any problems. > It doesn't seem to notice any e-mail at all unless I save it as a text > file, export it, and then browse thru the Spambayes Interface > to find it. Have you configured Juno to connect via localhost instead of directly to pop.juno.com? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jan 10 01:31:13 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jan 10 01:31:56 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Spam Clues: Download It Free. Download Free Console Video Games. Unlimited MP3's In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I wrote to you last week about Spam with Ham tacked on the end. > I've retrained my database using the "exception" method and > turned on bigrams. > This message came in at 2%. > Thanks in advance for any further ideas you have. SpamBayes > gets most of my Spam, just not Spam using this new technique. > > 'send' 0.0636887 12 2 > 'long' 0.0768659 6 1 > 'sorry' 0.0918367 2 0 > 'subject:Video' 0.0918367 2 0 > 'take' 0.109281 9 3 > 'let' 0.120729 8 3 These were in the body of the spam, not the tacked on bit. They're quite strong ham clues for you. Training on a few more spams like this should change that (assuming that they are in the same sort of format, and assuming that your ham doesn't look like this). > 'to:addr:above-the-garage.com' 0.3861 25 50 You've train on twice as many spam messages as ham messages with this token, but it's strongly ham. That's not good. This is because of the inbalance in training (this is one of the main issues that needs to be solved to make SpamBayes easier to use). For example, if you had trained on 118 ham (the same number as spam), and none of them had this token in it, then the score for this token would be 0.67. Similar changes apply to the other tokens in the clues list. Try grabbing a random selection of 81 (this will bring the numbers into balance) ham messages and training on them and see if that helps. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jan 10 03:10:08 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jan 10 03:10:59 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Training oddity/confusion In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I was experimenting with training last night (Outlook plugin > v1.01) and noticed something odd: sometimes, when I trained a > single message as spam and then ran a filtering pass over the > whole spam collection, a few other spams ended up with a > lower score than before. > > Maybe I'm completely misunderstanding how the classifier > works, but shouldn't train-as-spam increase spam token counts > and thus make all messages containing those tokens appear > more spammy, and have no effect on those that don't? Part of the calculation of a token's probability is: (spamcount and hamcount are for the token. nham and nspam are totals) hamratio = hamcount / nham spamratio = spamcount / nspam prob = spamratio / (hamratio + spamratio) [the bayesian adjustment follows, but isn't important here] The key bit here is that if you train on more spam, then nspam increases. For tokens that aren't in the newly trained message, this will decrease spamratio, which decreases the probability overall (since hamratio will stay constant). Consider this example: you have two trained spam messages, both with the tokens "free" and "money". You then train on 100 more spam messages, all of which have the token "free", but none of which have the token "money". "money" should now be much less of a spam clue than it used to be, whereas "free" should be just as strong as it has still been in every message. Does this make sense? Tim's much better at explaning the stats stuff than me, but I believe all of that is true, at least :) =Tony.Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jan 10 03:13:33 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jan 10 03:14:08 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] no spam caught In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I use Outlook [...] > > Re the message scoring, here is what comes up for one spam > message (the total number of spam trained is higher than four > - that was just one session) [...] > # ham trained on: 74 > # spam trained on: 4 The 4 here should be a total for all time, not per session. If this number ever goes down (without retraining from scratch, or correcting training mistakes) then there's a problem somewhere. > Combined Score: 100% (1) > Internal ham score (*H*): 1.11022e-016 > Internal spam score (*S*): 1 This is saying that this is definitely spam - 100% is about as high as you can get. I'm guessing then that the problem is that messages that are being scored as spam aren't being moved. If you look at the Filtering tab of the SpamBayes Manager dialog (from the SpamBayes button on the toolbar), are certain spam messages set to move to a folder. Is that folder the one you are expecting? (Click the Browse button next to the name to be sure). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tim.peters at gmail.com Mon Jan 10 06:35:52 2005 From: tim.peters at gmail.com (Tim Peters) Date: Mon Jan 10 06:35:56 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] tons of false positives after upgrading In-Reply-To: <01f901c4f503$51fda1a0$0203a8c0@Nate> References: <01f901c4f503$51fda1a0$0203a8c0@Nate> Message-ID: <1f7befae05010921355d8365df@mail.gmail.com> [Nate Tanner] > i had been using version 0.3 of spambayes for a long time (XP/outlook > express) and it was working fairly well. i recently upgraded to 1.0.1, and > now i get a ton of false positives (including the confirmation and welcome > messages from this mailing list !!) probably close to 20% of my valid > emails are being marked as spam. > > does anyone have any ideas about how to fix this problem? it's worse now > than if i had no filter, because i have to comb through every spam looking > for non-spams! please help! As Tony suggested, retrain from scratch. Some of the stuff in your data really doesn't make sense. For example, > ... > Total emails trained: Spam: 1299 Ham: 3644 ... > header:Subject:1 0.673037 1135 833 > header:From:1 0.675923 1139 847 > header:To:1 0.67644 1139 849 > header:Date:1 0.676889 1138 850 That says, for example, that 3644-1135=2509 of the ham messages you trained on didn't have a Subject line. That's unbelievable -- or you have very weird ham . Similarly, about 2,500 of your ham messages didn't have a To line, From line, or Date line in the headers. Those are equally incredible. These kinds of header lines should appear in virtually all email, whether ham or spam, and then they're judged as neutral. Instead the presence of a Subject line "looks spammy" to your database, and that's nuts. This is also incredible: > sender:no real name:2**0 0.004644 48 0 That says you've trained on no spam at all where the From line didn't contain a real name -- yet that's very common in spam, and moderately unusual in ham. You even have ubiquitous words like "the" and "and" scoring as spammy! Something is seriously messed up with the training here -- start over. From barkha at cyfuture.com Mon Jan 10 10:05:19 2005 From: barkha at cyfuture.com (barkha) Date: Mon Jan 10 10:30:49 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Opportunity to exchange links with PR-8 site Message-ID: <3819-2200511109519546@station8> Greetings! It was great to visit your website.. I felt your website would be very useful to my visitors. Therefore I would like to Propose link exchange partnership with your site My site presently has Google Page Rank 8 Would you consider linking... www.anonymizer.com Title: Identity Protection, Anonymous Web Surfing, Anonymous Proxy, & Anti Spyware Description: Anonymizer is a leader in internet identity protection providing, computer privacy, anonymous web surfing, email, proxy servers, anti spyware utilities, and anti virus programs. and www.anonymizer.com/enterprise/ Title: Hide IP Address with IP Blocker & IP Spoofing Utilities Description: Anonymizer offers enterprise and business security tools providing anonymous ip masking to hide your ip address. We have few specifications for the links they r as follows. The home page PR should not be zero .except for the following conditions. ? Your website is receiving some rankings in Google for source keywords. ? OR ? Interior pages of your website has PageRank. Home page (minimum) must be in Google?s index link should resides on the home or site map page of your site to their link page(s). The link(s) to the link page must be spiderable by the search engines and navigable by a human visitor. If there is no link or if the link is not spiderable, then the link is not acceptable. Page where our link is placed should not have more than 100 links in that page. Submit your link info here after posting our link in your link pages. http://www.linkcommand.com/index_submittion.php?submitid=479 Thanking you Have a great day Barkha From DBunce at baucumsteedlaw.com Mon Jan 10 16:50:12 2005 From: DBunce at baucumsteedlaw.com (Duane Bunce) Date: Mon Jan 10 16:30:46 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] junk e-mail Message-ID: <816B684B604CD411AF3100A0CC6647E43AB1D8@MAINSERVER> I accidently deleted my junk e-mail file. How do I get it back? duane From Mark at DTSOFT.com Mon Jan 10 17:20:57 2005 From: Mark at DTSOFT.com (Mark Vovchuk) Date: Mon Jan 10 17:21:37 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Question (Possible feature request) Message-ID: To whom it may concern: I have been using spambayes for a few months and am generally happy with the product. I wish to thank all developers who have contributed to it. One of my users (a programmer) wishes to know if there is a possibility of adding another field to the interface that would allow automated moving of mail from one folder in outlook to another. Please let me know if this could be done. Thank you, Mark Vovchuk Datatech Software -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050110/c39660c5/attachment.html From dannyfriedmann at gmail.com Mon Jan 10 19:14:00 2005 From: dannyfriedmann at gmail.com (Danny Friedmann) Date: Mon Jan 10 19:14:02 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] four questions about 'selfless' spam Message-ID: <75c17a2505011010149dab1db@mail.gmail.com> Hi, As a freelance journalist in the Netherlands, I am writing an article about 'selfless' spam and ways to fight it. I want to ask you what Spambayes does against this phenomenon. 1. Are there other names selfless spam (spam that wants to confuse the filters by sending plain nonsense words) is known under? 2. Is it a big problem in the English speaking world? 3. Is Spambayes moving into a semantic analyses direction? 4. Do you know of interesting articles or white papers about it online? Thanks. I hope you can respond soon, because of my deadline this Wednesday. Cheers, Danny Friedmann http://dannyfriedmann.nl John Franklinstraat 77-3 1056 TA Amsterdam 020-4890331 From tim.peters at gmail.com Mon Jan 10 19:49:21 2005 From: tim.peters at gmail.com (Tim Peters) Date: Mon Jan 10 19:49:23 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] four questions about 'selfless' spam In-Reply-To: <75c17a2505011010149dab1db@mail.gmail.com> References: <75c17a2505011010149dab1db@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1f7befae05011010491590614c@mail.gmail.com> [Danny Friedmann] > As a freelance journalist in the Netherlands, I am writing an article > about 'selfless' spam and ways to fight it. I want to ask you what > Spambayes does against this phenomenon. Nothing special. SpamBayes is trained by an individual, according to an individual's beliefs about the difference between "ham" and "spam". There is no collection of random words that has a good chance of fooling many SpamBayes installations, and it's particularly difficult to guess an individual's "ham" words. > 1. Are there other names selfless spam (spam that wants to confuse the > filters by sending plain nonsense words) is known under? I don't really know what you mean by "selfless spam", or by "nonsense words". If they're legitimate words, but more or less chosen at random, then that's often called "word salad". If you mean gibberish strings of letters that aren't really words at all, then SpamBayes scores them at 0.5 (exactly halfway between ham and spam), as it does for any word it hasn't seen before. They don't affect the overall scoring then. > 2. Is it a big problem in the English speaking world? Neither word salad nor gibberish (pseudo-)words are effective against SpamBayes in general. > 3. Is Spambayes moving into a semantic analyses direction? No. > 4. Do you know of interesting articles or white papers about it online? Sorry, not offhand -- try Google. From kenny.pitt at gmail.com Mon Jan 10 20:17:39 2005 From: kenny.pitt at gmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Mon Jan 10 20:17:44 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] junk e-mail In-Reply-To: <816B684B604CD411AF3100A0CC6647E43AB1D8@MAINSERVER> Message-ID: <41e2d4d4.67f99e45.3c0a.0308@smtp.gmail.com> Duane Bunce wrote: > I accidently deleted my junk e-mail file. How do I get it back? Which version number and variation of SpamBayes (Outlook Addin, sb_server, etc) are you using? What mail client are you using? What operating system and version are you running on? This is a question that we often get from Outlook users, although the headers in your message don't look typical for Outlook. I'll go ahead and point you to FAQ 3.13 just in case that is the environment you are using: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#help-i-deleted-the-unsure-spam-fol der or http://tinyurl.com/5mslk -- Kenny Pitt From TJLWBECGSGWU at spammotel.com Mon Jan 10 20:37:47 2005 From: TJLWBECGSGWU at spammotel.com (Mathew Hendry) Date: Mon Jan 10 20:38:40 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Training oddity/confusion References: Message-ID: On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:10:08 +1300, "Tony Meyer" wrote: >> I was experimenting with training last night (Outlook plugin >> v1.01) and noticed something odd: sometimes, when I trained a >> single message as spam and then ran a filtering pass over the >> whole spam collection, a few other spams ended up with a >> lower score than before. >> >> Maybe I'm completely misunderstanding how the classifier >> works, but shouldn't train-as-spam increase spam token counts >> and thus make all messages containing those tokens appear >> more spammy, and have no effect on those that don't? > >Part of the calculation of a token's probability is: > >(spamcount and hamcount are for the token. nham and nspam are totals) > > hamratio = hamcount / nham > spamratio = spamcount / nspam > prob = spamratio / (hamratio + spamratio) > [the bayesian adjustment follows, but isn't important here] Ah, of course. I was looking at the token counts and not thinking about the total message counts. Stupid weekend brain. :) I was doing a kind of manual "train to exhaustion", and the other thing I noticed was that the spam took a lot more training to make classification accurate (currently 82 ham : 409 spam, out of a total training set of 644 : 1414). I guess this simply means that my spam is a lot less consistent than my ham. BTW, I also found a trick in Outlook to be able to train on a given spam more than once, to force correct classification. Normally this doesn't work because the plugin sees the two messages as identical, but creating the copy in an IMAP folder seems to fool it. -- Mat. From TJLWBECGSGWU at spammotel.com Mon Jan 10 23:08:14 2005 From: TJLWBECGSGWU at spammotel.com (Mathew Hendry) Date: Mon Jan 10 23:08:58 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: four questions about 'selfless' spam References: <75c17a2505011010149dab1db@mail.gmail.com> <1f7befae05011010491590614c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0fs5u01cucokfrj83k820fmgcctkmh1afs@4ax.com> On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:49:21 -0500, Tim Peters wrote: >[Danny Friedmann] > >> 1. Are there other names selfless spam (spam that wants to confuse the >> filters by sending plain nonsense words) is known under? "Selfless" is the opposite of "selfish" in English - doesn't really make sense in this context. >I don't really know what you mean by "selfless spam", or by "nonsense >words". If they're legitimate words, but more or less chosen at >random, then that's often called "word salad". I've also seen it called "bayes poison". -- Mat. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jan 10 23:37:17 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jan 10 23:37:55 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Question (Possible feature request) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > One of my users (a programmer) wishes to know if there > is a possibility of adding another field to the interface > that would allow automated moving of mail from one folder > in outlook to another. Based on what? If you mean moving ham like unsure & spam can be moved, then this is already implemented and will appear in 1.1. If you mean based on any other rule, then no - it's much better to just use Outlook's rule system. If you mean something else entirely, please explain in a bit more detail (an example would be good) and we'll try and answer again :) =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jan 10 23:40:08 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jan 10 23:40:53 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes not classifying mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > To complicate things, I'm using Tb and Outlook on the same > machine. Outlook uses the plugin, Tb the pop3 proxy. Could > that be a problem? As long as they're either using separate databases (as they would by default) *or* are never running at the same time, that should be fine. > If I check the headers of mail, I see: > > X-Spambayes-Exception: Traceback (most recent call last): > . File "C:\spambayes-1.0.1\scripts\sb_server.py", line 471, > in onRetr > . msg.setPayload(messageText) > . File "C:\spambayes-1.0.1\spambayes\message.py", line 249, > in setPayload > . prs._parseheaders(self, fp) > > .AttributeError: Parser instance has no attribute '_parseheaders' This is the problem. You're running from source, and using Python 2.4, yes? SpamBayes 1.0.1 isn't compatible with Python 2.4. This is fixed in CVS, so will be fixed in 1.0.2 and 1.1 (2.4 wasn't out when 1.0.1 came out, and so this problem was missed). Options: 1. Use Python 2.3 (or 2.2) for the moment. 2. Use SpamBayes from CVS (either HEAD, which is what will become 1.1, or the 1_0_release branch, which will be 1.0.2). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Jan 11 02:58:52 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Jan 11 02:59:22 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] no spam caught In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Linda Grant] >>> Re the message scoring, here is what comes up for one spam >>> message (the total number of spam trained is higher than four >>> - that was just one session) >> [...] >>> # ham trained on: 74 >>> # spam trained on: 4 [Tony Meyer] >> The 4 here should be a total for all time, not per session. [Linda Grant] > Well it has certainly trained on more than that number of > spam messages, they come through in threes and fours and I > have done five or six trainings by now. Then there is definitely something wrong here. How have you done the training? By using the "delete as spam" button, with the initial configuration wizard, or via the "Training" tab of the SpamBayes Manager? > I have done the check > you suggest and the messages are designated to be moved to > the junk mail file. But it isn't doing it. Could you please send us a copy of your log files? They should have information about what is happening. The troubleshooting guide (SpamBayes->Help->Troubleshooting Guide) has information about how to find the logs. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Jan 11 03:01:45 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Jan 11 03:02:23 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I am currently trying to install Spambayes, not sure of the Version. > I am using Windows 95 as the Operating System. > The error log is copied below. [...] > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "pop3proxy_tray.py", line 44, in ? > File "win32api.pyc", line 9, in ? > File "win32api.pyc", line 7, in __load > ImportError: DLL load failed: A device attached to the system is not functioning. I suspect, although I am not 100%, that this means that the tray application does not work with Windows 95 (I'm guessing that some part of pywin32 that is used needs something in Windows 98 or higher). Try running the sb_server.exe file directly, rather than via the tray application. This file is in the "bin" directory in the directory you installed SpamBayes into (probably C:\Program Files\SpamBayes). Double-click that file and then try going to this address: If that works, let us know and we can explain where to go from there. If it doesn't, please let us know what the logs contain for that attempt. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From n.tanner at lunchclub.net Tue Jan 11 06:44:02 2005 From: n.tanner at lunchclub.net (Nate Tanner) Date: Tue Jan 11 06:44:05 2005 Subject: spam,Re: [Spambayes] tons of false positives after upgrading References: <01f901c4f503$51fda1a0$0203a8c0@Nate> <1f7befae05010921355d8365df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <05b501c4f7a0$8ef53880$0203a8c0@Nate> OK, I went to re-train from scratch. I removed hammie.db, message_info_database.db, and statistics_database.db from Documents and Settings/Owner/Application Data/SpamBayes/Proxy. I was going along fine all day, training new messages, then I went to review some additional messages (by right clicking on the tray icon). It pulled up a ton more messages than I was expecting, so I discarded all except 8 of them. Then I went to the home page and it says: Database only has 7 good and 1 spam - you should consider performing additional training. Apparently the reason it pulled up a ton of messages, was because all of a sudden it decided that it hadn't trained on them already, even though it had. So the question is, what did I do before the error occurred, that might have caused spambayes to suddenly not remember any previous training. The answer -- the only thing i did was to modify the configuration, so it would put the string "spam," in the "To:" and "Subject:" headers. So is modifying the configuration supposed to undo all the prior training? If not, any guesses on why this happened? Thanks for your assistance. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Peters" To: ; "Nate Tanner" Cc: Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 10:35 PM Subject: spam,Re: [Spambayes] tons of false positives after upgrading [Nate Tanner] > i had been using version 0.3 of spambayes for a long time (XP/outlook > express) and it was working fairly well. i recently upgraded to 1.0.1, and > now i get a ton of false positives (including the confirmation and welcome > messages from this mailing list !!) probably close to 20% of my valid > emails are being marked as spam. > > does anyone have any ideas about how to fix this problem? it's worse now > than if i had no filter, because i have to comb through every spam looking > for non-spams! please help! As Tony suggested, retrain from scratch. Some of the stuff in your data really doesn't make sense. For example, > ... > Total emails trained: Spam: 1299 Ham: 3644 ... > header:Subject:1 0.673037 1135 833 > header:From:1 0.675923 1139 847 > header:To:1 0.67644 1139 849 > header:Date:1 0.676889 1138 850 That says, for example, that 3644-1135=2509 of the ham messages you trained on didn't have a Subject line. That's unbelievable -- or you have very weird ham . Similarly, about 2,500 of your ham messages didn't have a To line, From line, or Date line in the headers. Those are equally incredible. These kinds of header lines should appear in virtually all email, whether ham or spam, and then they're judged as neutral. Instead the presence of a Subject line "looks spammy" to your database, and that's nuts. This is also incredible: > sender:no real name:2**0 0.004644 48 0 That says you've trained on no spam at all where the From line didn't contain a real name -- yet that's very common in spam, and moderately unusual in ham. You even have ubiquitous words like "the" and "and" scoring as spammy! Something is seriously messed up with the training here -- start over. From n.tanner at lunchclub.net Tue Jan 11 06:47:17 2005 From: n.tanner at lunchclub.net (Nate Tanner) Date: Tue Jan 11 06:47:20 2005 Subject: spam,Re: [Spambayes] tons of false positives after upgrading Message-ID: <05bf01c4f7a1$034ed5b0$0203a8c0@Nate> quick update to my previous post: Even though the home page says: Total emails trained: Spam: 1 Ham: 7 Database only has 7 good and 1 spam - you should consider performing additional training. If you click on the "more statistics" link, it says: SpamBayes has processed 124 messages - 27 (22%) good, 54 (44%) spam and 35 (28%) unsure. 30 messages were manually classified as good (1 was a false positive). 32 messages were manually classified as spam (4 were false negatives). 9 unsure messages were manually identified as good, and 14 as spam. so apparently something is corrupted again? any ideas? thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nate Tanner" To: Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 10:44 PM Subject: Re: spam,Re: [Spambayes] tons of false positives after upgrading OK, I went to re-train from scratch. I removed hammie.db, message_info_database.db, and statistics_database.db from Documents and Settings/Owner/Application Data/SpamBayes/Proxy. I was going along fine all day, training new messages, then I went to review some additional messages (by right clicking on the tray icon). It pulled up a ton more messages than I was expecting, so I discarded all except 8 of them. Then I went to the home page and it says: Database only has 7 good and 1 spam - you should consider performing additional training. Apparently the reason it pulled up a ton of messages, was because all of a sudden it decided that it hadn't trained on them already, even though it had. So the question is, what did I do before the error occurred, that might have caused spambayes to suddenly not remember any previous training. The answer -- the only thing i did was to modify the configuration, so it would put the string "spam," in the "To:" and "Subject:" headers. So is modifying the configuration supposed to undo all the prior training? If not, any guesses on why this happened? Thanks for your assistance. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Peters" To: ; "Nate Tanner" Cc: Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 10:35 PM Subject: spam,Re: [Spambayes] tons of false positives after upgrading [Nate Tanner] > i had been using version 0.3 of spambayes for a long time (XP/outlook > express) and it was working fairly well. i recently upgraded to 1.0.1, and > now i get a ton of false positives (including the confirmation and welcome > messages from this mailing list !!) probably close to 20% of my valid > emails are being marked as spam. > > does anyone have any ideas about how to fix this problem? it's worse now > than if i had no filter, because i have to comb through every spam looking > for non-spams! please help! As Tony suggested, retrain from scratch. Some of the stuff in your data really doesn't make sense. For example, > ... > Total emails trained: Spam: 1299 Ham: 3644 ... > header:Subject:1 0.673037 1135 833 > header:From:1 0.675923 1139 847 > header:To:1 0.67644 1139 849 > header:Date:1 0.676889 1138 850 That says, for example, that 3644-1135=2509 of the ham messages you trained on didn't have a Subject line. That's unbelievable -- or you have very weird ham . Similarly, about 2,500 of your ham messages didn't have a To line, From line, or Date line in the headers. Those are equally incredible. These kinds of header lines should appear in virtually all email, whether ham or spam, and then they're judged as neutral. Instead the presence of a Subject line "looks spammy" to your database, and that's nuts. This is also incredible: > sender:no real name:2**0 0.004644 48 0 That says you've trained on no spam at all where the From line didn't contain a real name -- yet that's very common in spam, and moderately unusual in ham. You even have ubiquitous words like "the" and "and" scoring as spammy! Something is seriously messed up with the training here -- start over. From robert at imagine.co.uk Tue Jan 11 13:35:35 2005 From: robert at imagine.co.uk (Robert Neuschul) Date: Tue Jan 11 13:35:37 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Question (Possible feature request) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > there is a possibility of adding another field to the interface that > would allow automated moving of mail from one folder in outlook to > another. Why would you want or need to? That functionality is what Outlook rule processing is for. From Mazzone at lbdc.state.ny.us Tue Jan 11 13:54:15 2005 From: Mazzone at lbdc.state.ny.us (Mazzone, Jim) Date: Tue Jan 11 13:54:18 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] spambytes Message-ID: <37A2113BBEBF1F47B71EF9870AD628FC02421B@westserv.lbdc.state.ny.us> Great tool! I looked through your faq and config guide. I have a new PC and would like to get my current config to it. I found the file outlook.ini on my old pc where it was supposed to be, but on my new PC I do not have a Application Data\SpamBayes entry what config files do I need to move and to what directory. Thank you in advance. PS I went form w2k to wxp Thank you, Jim Mazzone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050111/a7991b55/attachment.htm From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Tue Jan 11 14:02:17 2005 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Tue Jan 11 14:02:31 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] spambytes Message-ID: It's under C:\Documents and settings\\Application data\SpamBayes Amir _____ From: Mazzone, Jim [mailto:Mazzone@lbdc.state.ny.us] Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 14:54 To: 'spambayes@python.org' Subject: [Spambayes] spambytes Great tool! I looked through your faq and config guide. I have a new PC and would like to get my current config to it. I found the file outlook.ini on my old pc where it was supposed to be, but on my new PC I do not have a Application Data\SpamBayes entry what config files do I need to move and to what directory. Thank you in advance. PS I went form w2k to wxp Thank you, Jim Mazzone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050111/6cbc2902/attachment.html From Mark at DTSOFT.com Tue Jan 11 18:33:50 2005 From: Mark at DTSOFT.com (Mark Vovchuk) Date: Tue Jan 11 18:34:09 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Question (Possible feature request) Message-ID: When is 1.1 going to be available, if I may ask? Also, would this ham move be able to handle the following senario? We would like to run Outlook rules on the standard inbox. After such, all none whitelist email will be moved by said rule to a secondary mail folder that will have spambayes scan it. The Spam and Maybe Spam will still go to their respective folders, however anything left behind is moved back into the standard inbox. Is this something that would be possible with 1.1? Thank you, Mark Vovchuk Datatech Software -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 5:37 PM To: Mark Vovchuk; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Question (Possible feature request) > One of my users (a programmer) wishes to know if there is a > possibility of adding another field to the interface that would allow > automated moving of mail from one folder in outlook to another. Based on what? If you mean moving ham like unsure & spam can be moved, then this is already implemented and will appear in 1.1. If you mean based on any other rule, then no - it's much better to just use Outlook's rule system. If you mean something else entirely, please explain in a bit more detail (an example would be good) and we'll try and answer again :) =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From HMiller at dow.com Tue Jan 11 21:43:21 2005 From: HMiller at dow.com (Miller, Hugh (H)) Date: Tue Jan 11 21:43:54 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] spambay 101 Issue Message-ID: Dear Python, I am trying out your spambay 1.0.1 by start installation which goes OK, I try to use configuration wizard was unable to see my inbox and Junk E-Mail folder both area was empty, can you assist with this issue? My system information: * Windows XP * Spambays 1.0.1 <> <> Thank You, Hugh begin 600 spambayes4.log M4F5G:7-T97)E9#H@4W!A;4)A>65S+D]U=&QO;VM!9&1I;B`-"E)E9VES=')A 0=&EO;B!C;VUP;&5T92X-"@== ` end begin 600 spambayes1.log M3&]A9&5D(&)A>65S(&1A=&%B87-E(&9R;VT@)T,Z7$1O8W5M96YT65S7V1A=&%B87-E+F1B)PT*3&]A9&5D(&UE65S7&1E9F%U;'1?;65S65S(&1A=&%B87-E(&EN:71I86QI>F5D('=I=&@@ M,"!S<&%M(&%N9"`P(&=O;V0@;65S2!697)S:6]N(#$N,"XQ("A.;W9E;6)E65S($5N9VEN92!697)S:6]N M(#`N,R`H2F%N=6%R>2`R,#`T*2D-"F]N(%=I;F1O=W,@-2XQ+C(V,#`@*%-E M2`R M-2`R,#`T+"`R,3HQ-SHP,BD@6TU30R!V+C$R,#`@,S(@8FET("A);G1E;"E= M#0I%4E)/4B!E;G5M97)A=&EN9R!A(')E8V5I=F4@9F]L9&5R("T@*"TR,30W M,C(Q,C(P+"`G3TQ%(&5R2!C86YN;W0@'1086=E('=I=&@@8W5RF%R9`T**BHJ(%-P86U"87EE65S7&QI8EQS M<&%M8F%Y97,N;6]D=6QE3HQ,C8Z($9U='5R95=A2!R97%U97-T960@8VQA65S(&-O;F9I M9W5R871I;VY<F%R9"!T M;R!R96-O;F9I9W5R92!T:&4@9FEL=&5R+B<-"E1R86-E8F%C:R`H;6]S="!R M96-E;G0@8V%L;"!L87-T*3H-"B`@1FEL92`B861D:6XN<'EC(BP@;&EN92`Q M,#@W+"!I;B!/;D9O;&1E6,B M+"!L:6YE(#,T."P@:6X@1V5T1F]L9&5R#0I-&-E<'1I;VXZ($5X8V5P=&EO;B`P>#@P,#0P,3$Q("A-05!) M7T5?3$]'3TY?1D%)3$5$*3H@0VQA&-E<'1I;VXZ($US9U-T;W)E17AC M97!T:6]N.B!%>&-E<'1I;VX@,'@X,#`T,#$Q,2`H34%025]%7TQ/1T].7T9! M24Q%1"DZ($-L87-S1F%C=&]R>2!C86YN;W0@65S("T@1&ES8V]N;F5C=&EN9R!F Message-ID: [Jim Mazzone] > I have a new PC and would like to get my current config to it. > I found the file outlook.ini on my old pc where it was supposed > to be, but on my new PC I do not have a Application Data\SpamBayes > entry what config files do I need to move and to what directory. [Amir Katz] > It's under C:\Documents and settings\\Application data\SpamBayes If you haven't installed SpamBayes, or haven't opened Outlook since you have, the SpamBayes directory won't exist yet - you can create it manually if you like. You can copy the outlook.ini file if you like, though the configuration isn't really much use (there are so few options to copy, since it's unlikely that the folder choices will still be valid on the new machine). If you want to copy the training data, then you want to copy the default_bayes_database.db and default_message_database files. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Jan 11 23:49:50 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Jan 11 23:56:51 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] spambay 101 Issue In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I am trying out your spambay 1.0.1 by start installation > which goes OK, I try to use configuration wizard was unable > to see my inbox and Junk E-Mail folder both area was empty, > can you assist with this issue? SpamBayes is having trouble accessing the folders: > ERROR enumerating a receive folder - (-2147221220, > 'OLE error 0x8004011c', None, None) > ERROR enumerating a receive folder - (-2147221246, > 'Invalid window handle', None, None) > ERROR enumerating a receive folder - (-2147024891, > 'Access is denied.', None, None) > ERROR enumerating a receive folder - (-2147221231, > 'ClassFactory cannot supply requested class', None, None) [...] > MsgStoreException: MsgStoreException: Exception 0x80040111 > (MAPI_E_LOGON_FAILED): ClassFactory cannot supply requested > class What sort of folders are these? Local ones in a "Personal Folders" (pst) file? Remote ones on hotmail/IMAP/Exchange? If they are local ones, then try running the "Inbox Repair Tool" (scanpst) over the file(s) and seeing if that helps. If they are remote ones, do you have the appropriate permissions set up to access them? Does accessing them in Outlook work correctly? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Jan 11 23:53:29 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Jan 11 23:57:43 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Question (Possible feature request) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > When is 1.1 going to be available, if I may ask? It's hard to be certain, because everything depends on volunteer time, which can be unexpectedly reduced. However, assuming that I am the release manager for 1.0.2 and the first 1.1 (which is probably a reasonable guess), then my best guess would be: 1.0.2 This is a bugfix release only - i.e. it fixes bugs with the 1.0.1 release, but contains no new features. I expect this to be released before the end of January (there's a long weekend at the very end here, so possibly then). 1.1a1 This is a first alpha release of the 1.1 branch. There are a *lot* of changes in 1.1 from the 1.0.x line - however, I do believe we are getting close to finishing up adding the bits we wanted for 1.1, so it's probably a good idea to get a release out reasonably soon that interested people can test. This is an alpha release, however, so is only for those willing to test reasonably cutting edge stuff (although it has undergone a reasonable amount of testing by the developers and other CVS users). I expect that this will be released about the same time as 1.0.2 (i.e. end of January). What happens after that depends on how many problems with the alpha release there are. I hope that it will go something like: 1.1a2 End of February. 1.1b1 Mid-March. 1.1rc1 End of March. 1.1final Start of April. > Also, would this ham move be able to handle the following senario? > > We would like to run Outlook rules on the standard inbox. > > After such, all none whitelist email will be moved by said > rule to a secondary mail folder that will have spambayes scan > it. The Spam and Maybe Spam will still go to their > respective folders, however anything left behind is moved > back into the standard inbox. > > Is this something that would be possible with 1.1? Yes - this is exactly the sort of thing that the new functionality is designed to handle. You'd just get SpamBayes to watch/filter the secondary mail folder, and set the ham/good mail action to "move to inbox". =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jan 12 00:05:13 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:07:28 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] no spam caught In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I train it by clicking on the spambayes tab which is > installed in Outlook, and then the configuration wizard. I > just did it - it looks to me that its 'memory' wipes out any > record of any previous training sessions. Yes, the wizard is from (re)starting from scratch, only. If you'd like to help us out, you could suggest an alternative wording to the dialog that would make this clearer, so that people can avoid being caught by this in the future. The best way to train (in general) is to use the "Delete As Spam" and "Recover From Spam" buttons on the toolbar. Simply select the messages that you want to train and click one of those buttons. Alternatively, you can do training in the same sort of way that the configuration wizard does by using the "Training" tab of the Manager dialog (but be sure that the "Rebuild entire database" box is not ticked). > I'm afraid the > instructions for finding the logfiles are far too vague for > me. I am an ordinary PC user with no expertise. I would not > know where to look for Documents and > Settings\{username}\Local Settings\Temp for Windows 2000/XP. Could you let us know at which point you have trouble? The guide says: """ If you are running the binary version, the simplest way to get hold of the most recent log is to: 1. Open the SpamBayes Manager dialog (from the SpamBayes toolbar) 2. Click the Advanced tab. 3. Click the Diagnostics button. 4. Click the View log button. To find the log manually, you'll need to find your Windows temp directory, into which the SpamBayes addin writes the log. This directory is generally \WINDOWS\TEMP for Windows 9x, or \Documents and Settings\{username}\Local Settings\Temp for Windows 2000/XP. Note that by default, in Windows 2000 and XP, Windows Explorer will not show the Local Settings directory, as it is hidden. You can convince Windows Explorer to show this directory (and therefore allow you to see the Temp directory under it by doing either: * Select the folder \Documents and Settings\{username}. This directory should be reflected in the Address Bar. In the Address Bar, simply type at the end "\Local Settings" (thereby giving that full path name), and press Enter. Explorer will then show this folder. or * Select Tools->Folder Options, select the View tab, and in the list, select Show hidden files and folders. Select OK. This folder will now be visible. You may like to then reset this option back to the default value. The log file for the most recent execution of Outlook is named spambayes1.log, the second most recent is named spambayes2.log, and so on for the four previous runs. """ I would have thought that the first method (with the four steps) was reasonably straight-forward. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jan 12 00:20:22 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:20:57 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: About my Anti Phishing suggestions for Spambayes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > You seem to be the resident expert/developer on the Spambayes > mailing list. If you replace "the" with "a", then you'd be more-or-less right :) > I made two posts 2 days ago and I was wondering if you had any > reaction to my suggestion. Yes, and I had left it in my list (now at 268 items) of mail to reply to/deal with, but I just hadn't had time until today to get to it (and since it was dealing with a possible enhancement rather than a bug or problem it seemed less urgent than other mail). [phishing description snipped] > Now, since I do this by hand, why can't SpamBayes do something like this > automatically? For example, SpamBayes should be able to easily parse the > real URL and the displayed text for a link in an email message. If the text > displayed looks like a URL address, it could do a DNS lookup on the address > like "www.paypal.com" and see that it does not match real URL > "123.456.234.567" and automatically mark the message as SPAM/Phish? This (or close enough) was also suggested (on spambayes-dev) in June last year: > However another possibility might be > that at the point where SpamBayes is tokenizing the email content, it may be > possible to change strings like "http://123.456.234.567/" into something > generic like "http://NNN.NNN.NNN.NNN/" and then use the normal Bayesian > technique to get these messages flagged as SPAM since I don't think any of > my HAM messages ever use numeric URL addresses. This would probably only > work for a while till the Phishers eventually use non-numeric addresses for > their faked URLs. Developers? Is this possible/easier? The string "http://123.456.234.567/" generates the tokens: ['proto:http', 'url:http', 'url:', 'url:', 'url:123', 'url:456', 'url:234', 'url:567']. If you only ever see numeric URLS in spam, then you should have a reasonable number of tokens like 'url:123' in your database with probabilities on the spam side. You could generate a "url:IPaddr_instead_of_hostname" token, I suppose (as Glenn suggested), but is it really going to help anything? See FAQ 6.1: The important point here is that ideas need to be tested. My question would be: are there messages that would contain these tokens that are currently being scored incorrectly? (i.e. for which the existing token set is not sufficient). Any mail I get with phishing content is easily scored as spam from the rest of the content - however, I don't use PayPal, eBay, any US bank, or any of the NZ banks that have been subject of this sort of mail so far, so legitimate mail from these places might be scored as spam, for all I know. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jan 12 00:36:41 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:37:27 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] tons of false positives after upgrading In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > OK, I went to re-train from scratch. I removed hammie.db, > message_info_database.db, and statistics_database.db from > Documents and Settings/Owner/Application Data/SpamBayes/Proxy. > I was going along fine all day, training new messages, then I > went to review some additional messages (by right clicking on > the tray icon). It pulled up a ton more messages than > I was expecting, so I discarded all except 8 of them. Then I > went to the home page and it says: > Database only has 7 good and 1 spam - you should consider performing > additional training. > > Apparently the reason it pulled up a ton of messages, was > because all of a sudden it decided that it hadn't trained on > them already, even though it had. Were they definitely the same messages? That wouldn't fit with my suspicions (below). > So the question is, what > did I do before the error occurred, that might have caused > spambayes to suddenly not remember any previous training. > The answer -- the only thing i did was to modify the > configuration, so it would put the string "spam," in the "To:" > and "Subject:" headers. > > So is modifying the configuration supposed to undo all the > prior training? No. > If not, any guesses on why this happened? There is a known (fixed in CVS) bug with 1.0.1 that means that if you make any configuration changes via the web interface then many options are reset to their default values until the next time you restart SpamBayes. This has had two effects reported so far: in the first, the columns in the review page reset to just "Subject" and "From", and in the second, the cache directories reset, so if you are using non-defaults for those, then mail will be put in the wrong place and the review page will present mail from there, instead of the correct place. If this does turn out to be another case of this bug, then maybe we should move 1.0.2 up a bit to next week, since it's starting to crop up fairly often, and putting the release out earlier would be less work than continually identifying this bug. > Even though the home page says: > Total emails trained: Spam: 1 Ham: 7 > Database only has 7 good and 1 spam - you should consider > performing additional training. > > If you click on the "more statistics" link, it says: > SpamBayes has processed 124 messages - 27 (22%) good, 54 > (44%) spam and 35 > (28%) unsure. > 30 messages were manually classified as good (1 was a false > positive). 32 messages were manually classified as spam (4 > were false negatives). 9 unsure messages were manually > identified as good, and 14 as spam. > > so apparently something is corrupted again? any ideas? Hmm. The "more statistics" page uses the 'message_info_database.db' database, rather than hammie.db, which holds the token counts themselves. It sounds like the same message_info db is always used, but different token databases. [Later] Thinking about this more, I think this is a case of the bug described above, because I'm guessing in your configuration file you have 'statistics_database.db' set as the token database (a hangover from a poor choice (mine) in a version a while back) and so when you change the configuration, you change the database that's being used. There are two workarounds for this (until 1.0.2 is out, which has the bug fix): 1. Change the configuration to use "hammie.db" as the "Storage file name". Since that's the default, the reset-to-default bug won't have any effect on this. 2. Always stop and restart SpamBayes after making any changes on the configuration page. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From n.tanner at lunchclub.net Wed Jan 12 01:13:41 2005 From: n.tanner at lunchclub.net (Nate Tanner) Date: Wed Jan 12 01:13:41 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] tons of false positives after upgrading References: Message-ID: <029401c4f83b$934618a0$0203a8c0@Nate> >>Thinking about this more, I think this is a case of the bug described above, because I'm guessing in your configuration file you have 'statistics_database.db' set as the token database That is true. It looks like you were correct, because there is a statistics_database.db with a time stamp of last night, and hammie.db with a timestamp from a few minutes ago. So if it switched me from statistics_database.db to hammie.db last night that would make sense. FYI, the "Header Options" section on the config page shows up twice, once at the very bottom, and once after "SMTP Proxy Options." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Meyer" To: "'Nate Tanner'" ; Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [Spambayes] tons of false positives after upgrading > OK, I went to re-train from scratch. I removed hammie.db, > message_info_database.db, and statistics_database.db from > Documents and Settings/Owner/Application Data/SpamBayes/Proxy. > I was going along fine all day, training new messages, then I > went to review some additional messages (by right clicking on > the tray icon). It pulled up a ton more messages than > I was expecting, so I discarded all except 8 of them. Then I > went to the home page and it says: > Database only has 7 good and 1 spam - you should consider performing > additional training. > > Apparently the reason it pulled up a ton of messages, was > because all of a sudden it decided that it hadn't trained on > them already, even though it had. Were they definitely the same messages? That wouldn't fit with my suspicions (below). > So the question is, what > did I do before the error occurred, that might have caused > spambayes to suddenly not remember any previous training. > The answer -- the only thing i did was to modify the > configuration, so it would put the string "spam," in the "To:" > and "Subject:" headers. > > So is modifying the configuration supposed to undo all the > prior training? No. > If not, any guesses on why this happened? There is a known (fixed in CVS) bug with 1.0.1 that means that if you make any configuration changes via the web interface then many options are reset to their default values until the next time you restart SpamBayes. This has had two effects reported so far: in the first, the columns in the review page reset to just "Subject" and "From", and in the second, the cache directories reset, so if you are using non-defaults for those, then mail will be put in the wrong place and the review page will present mail from there, instead of the correct place. If this does turn out to be another case of this bug, then maybe we should move 1.0.2 up a bit to next week, since it's starting to crop up fairly often, and putting the release out earlier would be less work than continually identifying this bug. > Even though the home page says: > Total emails trained: Spam: 1 Ham: 7 > Database only has 7 good and 1 spam - you should consider > performing additional training. > > If you click on the "more statistics" link, it says: > SpamBayes has processed 124 messages - 27 (22%) good, 54 > (44%) spam and 35 > (28%) unsure. > 30 messages were manually classified as good (1 was a false > positive). 32 messages were manually classified as spam (4 > were false negatives). 9 unsure messages were manually > identified as good, and 14 as spam. > > so apparently something is corrupted again? any ideas? Hmm. The "more statistics" page uses the 'message_info_database.db' database, rather than hammie.db, which holds the token counts themselves. It sounds like the same message_info db is always used, but different token databases. [Later] Thinking about this more, I think this is a case of the bug described above, because I'm guessing in your configuration file you have 'statistics_database.db' set as the token database (a hangover from a poor choice (mine) in a version a while back) and so when you change the configuration, you change the database that's being used. There are two workarounds for this (until 1.0.2 is out, which has the bug fix): 1. Change the configuration to use "hammie.db" as the "Storage file name". Since that's the default, the reset-to-default bug won't have any effect on this. 2. Always stop and restart SpamBayes after making any changes on the configuration page. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From imflying at comcast.net Wed Jan 12 03:50:05 2005 From: imflying at comcast.net (Gil Brandenburg) Date: Wed Jan 12 03:50:27 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes buttons crash Outlook 2003 Message-ID: <20050112025025.57C8D1E401F@bag.python.org> Help! I just upgraded to OL2003. I just let it update over my old Outlook XP and I did not remove Spambayes before I did the upgrade. OL2003 works fine until I push a Spambayes button. If I attempt to push the Spambayes button that would normally get me to the Spambayes Manager button... CRASH!!! If I push the "delete as spam" button, OL2003 crashes, but on restart, I notice that it did move the message to the Junk email folder. I've attempted to uninstall Spambayes (including the data store folder) and then reinstall but so far no luck. Any help VERY MUCH APPRECIATED, Gil -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.299 / Virus Database: 265.6.10 - Release Date: 01/10/2005 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050111/4ff6605a/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jan 12 03:57:31 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Jan 12 03:58:08 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes buttons crash Outlook 2003 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I just upgraded to OL2003. I just let it update over my > old Outlook XP and I did not remove Spambayes before I > did the upgrade. OL2003 works fine until I push a Spambayes > button. If I attempt to push the Spambayes button that would > normally get me to the Spambayes Manager button... CRASH!!! > If I push the "delete as spam" button, OL2003 crashes, but > on restart, I notice that it did move the message to the Junk > email folder. I've attempted to uninstall Spambayes (including > the data store folder) and then reinstall but so far no luck. Have you tried the various toolbar suggestions in the troubleshooting guide? (particularly deleting outcmd.dat). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From barkha at cyfuture.com Wed Jan 12 11:48:59 2005 From: barkha at cyfuture.com (barkha) Date: Wed Jan 12 11:46:09 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Opportunity to exchange links with PR-8 site Message-ID: <3819-220051312104859656@station8> Hello there! It was great to visit your website . I would like to Propose link exchange partnership with your site My site presently has Google Page Rank 8 Would you consider linking... www.anonymizer.com Title: Identity Protection, Anonymous Web Surfing, Anonymous Proxy, & Anti Spyware Description: Anonymizer is a leader in internet identity protection providing, computer privacy, anonymous web surfing, email, proxy servers, anti spyware utilities, and anti virus programs. and www.anonymizer.com/enterprise/ Title: Hide IP Address with IP Blocker & IP Spoofing Utilities Description: Anonymizer offers enterprise and business security tools providing anonymous ip masking to hide your ip address. We have few specifications for the links they r as follows. The home page PR should not be zero .except for the following conditions. ? Your website is receiving some rankings in Google for source keywords. ? OR ? Interior pages of your website has PageRank. Home page (minimum) must be in Google?s index link should resides on the home or site map page of your site to their link page(s). The link(s) to the link page must be spiderable by the search engines and navigable by a human visitor. If there is no link or if the link is not spiderable, then the link is not acceptable. Page where our link is placed should not have more than 100 links in that page. Place our linkin your link page if u find it worthwhile and mail us back informing us where u have placed our links. Soon we receive our links your links will be updated in our link pages. Thanking you Have a great day Barkha From paypal at aw-service.com Wed Jan 12 03:59:01 2005 From: paypal at aw-service.com (PayPal) Date: Wed Jan 12 12:16:59 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] New email address added to your PayPal account Message-ID: <1105498741.13016.qmail@aw-serivce.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050111/8cad462c/attachment.htm From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Wed Jan 12 13:34:56 2005 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Wed Jan 12 13:34:59 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Opportunity to exchange links with PR-8 site Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5003393526@SPIKE.city> Am I reading this right? An exchange of links is being proposed by a purveyor of utilities aimed at spammers?? (What is "identity protected" email if not spam? And who else needs to spoof their IP addresses?) And he has the gall to demand a bunch of conditions on your links. Amazing. Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces@python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of barkha > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 4:05 AM > To: spambayes@python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] Opportunity to exchange links with PR-8 site > > > Greetings! > > It was great to visit your website.. I felt your website > would be very useful to my visitors. Therefore I would like > to Propose link exchange partnership with your site > My site presently has Google Page Rank 8 > > Would you consider linking... > > www.anonymizer.com > Title: > Identity Protection, Anonymous Web Surfing, Anonymous Proxy, & Anti Spyware > Description: > Anonymizer is a leader in internet identity protection > providing, computer privacy, anonymous web surfing, email, > proxy servers, anti spyware utilities, and anti virus programs. > > and > > www.anonymizer.com/enterprise/ > Title: > Hide IP Address with IP Blocker & IP Spoofing Utilities > Description: > Anonymizer offers enterprise and business security tools > providing anonymous ip masking to hide your ip address. > > > We have few specifications for the links they r as follows. > > ... From Mazzone at lbdc.state.ny.us Wed Jan 12 14:30:14 2005 From: Mazzone at lbdc.state.ny.us (Mazzone, Jim) Date: Wed Jan 12 14:30:06 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] spambytes Message-ID: <37A2113BBEBF1F47B71EF9870AD628FC024220@westserv.lbdc.state.ny.us> Yes you were correct, however I did not have show hidden files and folders checked under fold options that is why I could not find it. Again thanks for the help Jim Mazzone -----Original Message----- From: Katz, Amir [mailto:Amir_Katz@bmc.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 8:02 AM To: Mazzone, Jim Cc: 'spambayes@python.org' Subject: RE: [Spambayes] spambytes It's under C:\Documents and settings\\Application data\SpamBayes Amir _____ From: Mazzone, Jim [mailto:Mazzone@lbdc.state.ny.us] Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 14:54 To: 'spambayes@python.org' Subject: [Spambayes] spambytes Great tool! I looked through your faq and config guide. I have a new PC and would like to get my current config to it. I found the file outlook.ini on my old pc where it was supposed to be, but on my new PC I do not have a Application Data\SpamBayes entry what config files do I need to move and to what directory. Thank you in advance. PS I went form w2k to wxp Thank you, Jim Mazzone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050112/cc0ad006/attachment.htm From stingwray at alltel.net Wed Jan 12 16:28:36 2005 From: stingwray at alltel.net (Bill Wray) Date: Wed Jan 12 16:28:36 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Removal of this software Message-ID: <20050112152832.XTA23786.ispmxmta09-srv.alltel.net@ALPHA> I would like to remove this Plug-in ar add-in but have thus far been unable to see how this would be done. Could someone explain the steps or direct me to where this procedure would be explained? 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050112/983996d1/attachment.html From kenny.pitt at gmail.com Wed Jan 12 16:45:35 2005 From: kenny.pitt at gmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Wed Jan 12 16:45:40 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Removal of this software In-Reply-To: <20050112152832.XTA23786.ispmxmta09-srv.alltel.net@ALPHA> Message-ID: <41e54620.7c463ec0.4904.1088@smtp.gmail.com> FAQ 3.16: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#how-do-i-uninstall-the-plug-in -- Kenny Pitt _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Bill Wray Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:29 AM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Removal of this software I would like to remove this Plug-in ar add-in but have thus far been unable to see how this would be done. Could someone explain the steps or direct me to where this procedure would be explained? Using Windows XP OS and Outlook 2003 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050112/7dbc2029/attachment.htm From ksg at telusplanet.net Wed Jan 12 18:53:05 2005 From: ksg at telusplanet.net (Ken Gordon) Date: Wed Jan 12 18:53:07 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Local storage of Spam with Imap Message-ID: I am using SB (1.0.1), and specifically sb_imapfiler.py, and have got it working satisfactorily under OS X, 10.3.7. I would rather not devote scarce server-side storage to the spam corpus, which is beginning to get pretty large. Is there a way to specify a client-side folder for spam storage? (and since i am running this from crontab, I would need to know the -o version). -- Ken Gordon From Robert.Strickler at us.net56.net Wed Jan 12 19:16:12 2005 From: Robert.Strickler at us.net56.net (Robert Strickler) Date: Wed Jan 12 19:16:19 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] default_bayes_customize.ini questions Message-ID: <66E432C07EEC9B4185620636AC2A1D6827BCC8@EM1.main.us.net56.net> Am I correct in assuming that disabling a feature can be accomplished with a ":False" suffix e.g.: "x-search_for_habeas_headers:False"? Also the following config caused a failure pop-up when starting outlook, when I deleted the [URLRetriever] section, outlook started without complaint, can you tell me what might be wrong? Note, each line has a space prefixed to preserve formatting from Outlook "assistance". ==================== [Tokenizer] x-pick_apart_urls:True x-fancy_url_recognition:True [Classifier] x-use_bigrams:True [URLRetriever] x-slurp_urls:True x-cache_expiry_days:True x-cache_directory:True x-only_slurp_base:True x-web_prefix:True ==================== Best Regards, Bob Robert J. Strickler Sr. Consultant Net56 1266 W. Northwest Hwy Suite 740 Palatine, IL Tel 847-934-8100 From TJLWBECGSGWU at spammotel.com Wed Jan 12 19:20:50 2005 From: TJLWBECGSGWU at spammotel.com (Mathew Hendry) Date: Wed Jan 12 19:22:02 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Opportunity to exchange links with PR-8 site References: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5003393526@SPIKE.city> Message-ID: On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 07:34:56 -0500, "Coe, Bob" wrote: >Am I reading this right? An exchange of links is being proposed by >a purveyor of utilities aimed at spammers?? (What is "identity protected" >email if not spam? And who else needs to spoof their IP addresses?) Not necessarily. Anonymising tools have plenty of legitimate uses, even against spammers. I myself use SpamMotel to produce proxy e-mail addresses for use on newsgroups, mailing lists, shopping sites, and so on. Not for full anonymity in this case - only to conceal my real e-mail address. >And he has the gall to demand a bunch of conditions on your links. Amazing. Aside from that, you'd think they'd be able to check against their conditions themselves - simply by running a google search. -- Mat. From Michael.Otto at NielsenMedia.com Wed Jan 12 22:58:56 2005 From: Michael.Otto at NielsenMedia.com (Otto, Michael) Date: Wed Jan 12 22:58:58 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook plugin: Spam and MaybeSpam folders only have toolbar button "Delete as Spam", not "Recover from Spam" button Message-ID: <3F1BCF4F62009E4285037B3944B4782ACC76E0@NMR001OLDMSX02.enterprisenet.org> Hi all I've been encountering this bug which seems to appear 80% of the time since my Outlook got upgraded to OL2003 under WinXP. That being, in my "Spam" and "Maybe Spam" folders, I should see a "Recover from Spam" button. However, the only buttons I see on either of these folders is "Delete As Spam". Occasionally I have seen the correct buttons appear, but they do not persist. I've just uninstalled SpamBayes and downloaded V.1.0.1 and installed that. Unfortunately, I stll cannot find my "Recover From Spam" button on either of the two spam folders. Please advise Thanks michael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050112/664c33e3/attachment.html From kenny.pitt at gmail.com Wed Jan 12 23:23:54 2005 From: kenny.pitt at gmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Wed Jan 12 23:23:59 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] default_bayes_customize.ini questions In-Reply-To: <66E432C07EEC9B4185620636AC2A1D6827BCC8@EM1.main.us.net56.net> Message-ID: <41e5a37c.675a3249.42c7.00c9@smtp.gmail.com> Robert Strickler wrote: > Am I correct in assuming that disabling a feature can be accomplished > with a ":False" suffix e.g.: "x-search_for_habeas_headers:False"? Yes, that's correct if the option is a boolean flag. There are other option types that do not take a True/False value, but they will be ignored if they are associated with a feature that has been disabled. > Also the following config caused a failure pop-up when starting > outlook, when I deleted the [URLRetriever] section, outlook started > without complaint, can you tell me what might be wrong? Note, each > line has a space prefixed to preserve formatting from Outlook > "assistance". > > ==================== > [URLRetriever] > x-cache_expiry_days:True > x-cache_directory:True > x-web_prefix:True > ==================== The data types for these values are incorrect. I don't know for sure that this will cause the Outlook error, but it is certainly reasonable that it could. "x-cache_directory" should be a pathname, not a boolean. It specifies the directory where URLs retrieved by the slurper will be cached. "x-cache_expiry_days" should be an integer value. It specifies the number of days that a cached URL will be kept. "x-web_prefix" is a string value that defines a prefix to be added to tokens generated from a slurped URL. This would be used if you wanted the tokens generated from a web page to be separate from the tokens generated from the body of an email message. For example, the config setting "x-web_prefix:web:" would generate a token "spambayes" if it appears in an email and "web:spambayes" if it appears in a slurped URL. -- Kenny Pitt From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Jan 13 02:00:11 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Jan 13 02:00:42 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Local storage of Spam with Imap In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I am using SB (1.0.1), and specifically sb_imapfiler.py, and > have got it working satisfactorily under OS X, 10.3.7. > I would rather not devote scarce server-side storage to the > spam corpus, which is beginning to get pretty large. Note that you don't have to keep that spam around, if you don't want to. After you've reviewed it, you can just delete it if you have no further use for it. The only use to SpamBayes that it can be is to retrain from scratch, but SpamBayes ought to learn fast enough that it's not really worth doing that these days. I think (although I don't know for sure) that the SpamBayes developers (with the exception of Skip, who uses tte) always start with a fresh, rather than reconstituted, database, and only keep spam around for testing purposes. > Is there a way to specify a client-side folder for > spam storage? (and since i am running this from crontab, I would need to > know the -o version). There is a "move_trained_spam_to_folder" option, which will move spam out of the spam-to-train folder into any other one (from the command line, this would be "-o imap:move_trained_spam_to_folder:FOLDER_NAME"). However, unless there is a folder on the IMAP server that is client-side, this won't be of any use. There must be a tool around to move the contents of an IMAP folder to local storage, though (I don't really use IMAP, so don't know of one myself). It would certainly be easy to write. What you want to do is independent of SpamBayes, so you could use any tool that would do it. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Jan 13 02:07:54 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Jan 13 02:08:18 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes buttons crash Outlook 2003 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Success!!! Doing a complete uninstall of Spambayes and OL2003 > has fixed the problem. Excellent :) Thanks for letting us know. > Now a question. How should I set OL2003's built in Spam filter? Possibilities: o You can just turn it off - SpamBayes ought to do a better job than it (appropriately trained). Note that you can get SpamBayes to move spam to the Outlook "Junk Mail" folder, so that you can use it's extra capabilities (right-click and delete, and that sort of thing). o Alternatively, you can have it on and have a two-tier spam filtering system. (OL will go first, so you'd have to get SpamBayes to watch the folder that OL moves spam to - that would mean that mail that OL thought was good would be in the inbox, mail that SpamBayes thought was good (but OL didn't) would be in the OL spam folder, mail that SpamBayes thought was unsure (and OL thought was spam) would be in the SpamBayes unsure folder, and mail that both OL and SpamBayes thought was spam would be in the SpamBayes folder). With the 1.1 SpamBayes release (final version will probably be out in April - an alpha release will probably be out this month) you can set SpamBayes to move good mail, too, so you could get it to put mail it thinks is good back in the inbox or wherever. o You could have it move suspected spam to the SpamBayes spam folder, or unsure folder (depending on how much you trusted it). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Jan 13 06:00:42 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Jan 13 06:01:36 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Training oddity/confusion In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I was doing a kind of manual "train to exhaustion", and the > other thing I noticed was that the spam took a lot more > training to make classification accurate (currently 82 ham : > 409 spam, out of a total training set of 644 : 1414). I guess > this simply means that my spam is a lot less consistent than my ham. With 'classic' train to exhaustion, the database is kept exactly balanced, I believe. How well is your system working for you? > BTW, I also found a trick in Outlook to be able to train on a > given spam more than once, to force correct classification. > Normally this doesn't work because the plugin sees the two > messages as identical, but creating the copy in an IMAP > folder seems to fool it. Creating a copy in any store should work, I think. IIRC Tim pointed this out many many moons ago, although that was before Gary's blog about tte. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From TJLWBECGSGWU at spammotel.com Thu Jan 13 14:34:42 2005 From: TJLWBECGSGWU at spammotel.com (Mathew Hendry) Date: Thu Jan 13 14:35:40 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Training oddity/confusion References: Message-ID: <0nrcu0t54kr1khc5g12gdid010v36nedu8@4ax.com> On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:00:42 +1300, "Tony Meyer" wrote: >> I was doing a kind of manual "train to exhaustion", and the >> other thing I noticed was that the spam took a lot more >> training to make classification accurate (currently 82 ham : >> 409 spam, out of a total training set of 644 : 1414). I guess >> this simply means that my spam is a lot less consistent than my ham. > >With 'classic' train to exhaustion, the database is kept exactly balanced, I >believe. How well is your system working for you? Erm, not all that well. :| My incoming mail is very unbalanced - 17:1 spam:ham since I started the training - which can't help, but so far I have 18% unsure spam and 3% false negatives. No mistakes on ham though; none scored higher than 0.5%. Given that, I suppose I could simply mess with the thresholds. -- Mat. From folkert at ctv.es Thu Jan 13 16:17:53 2005 From: folkert at ctv.es (F.A. Steendam-Visser) Date: Thu Jan 13 16:18:49 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: <00b101c4f983$2a5d5c10$d3366650@NOTEBOOK> Lectori Salutem, SpamBayes is supposed to sit somewhere in Outlook, but I have Outlook Express. I printed many of the instruction pages and followed everything up, but don't see anything in the top-line of Express. I read somewhere: "If it does not work: install again." I did, but no dice. I'm running Norton Zone Alarm, Spybot, Ad-Aware and Avast!Home. Should I delete some of these or what? XP Home (in English). Folkert. 38?49'04"N; 00?09'06"E -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050113/62ca4e08/attachment.html From TJLWBECGSGWU at spammotel.com Thu Jan 13 16:29:53 2005 From: TJLWBECGSGWU at spammotel.com (Mathew Hendry) Date: Thu Jan 13 16:31:10 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: (no subject) References: <00b101c4f983$2a5d5c10$d3366650@NOTEBOOK> Message-ID: On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:17:53 +0100, "F.A. Steendam-Visser" wrote: >SpamBayes is supposed to sit somewhere in Outlook, but I have Outlook Express. The Outlook plugin doesn't work with Outlook Express - although they both handle e-mail, they're very different programs "under the hood". You'll need to use the POP3 proxy or IMAP filter instead. -- Mat. From JanMacKenzie at dow.com Thu Jan 13 17:45:41 2005 From: JanMacKenzie at dow.com (MacKenzie, Jan) Date: Thu Jan 13 17:47:30 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Question Message-ID: <850A9A0A7736704180E8F152FB72805E01B59E56@USMDLMDOWM041.dow.com> I just love your SpamBayes program and did look through the FAQ but still have one question... When I "recover from Junk" it doesn't seem to filter subsequent messages as non junk. The next one from the same email address goes back in to junk. Am I doing something wrong or is there a setting to correct this (I know hotmail lets you put a selected message on a safe list so subsequent ones go in to the in box). I was wondering, is there anyway that I can mark a specific message as GOOD Thanks in advance! Jan MacKenzie e-mail: janmackenzie@dow.com From ken.gordon at wolfe-gordon.ca Thu Jan 13 21:13:22 2005 From: ken.gordon at wolfe-gordon.ca (Ken Gordon) Date: Thu Jan 13 21:13:28 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Memory error/segmentation fault Message-ID: <21206BF25D13A6327808CE6B@KenPowerbook.local> Running SB1.0.1 on Mac OSx (10.3.7), I get a Segmentation Fault from sb_imapfilter -t -v and a Memory Error from sb_imapfilter -c -v . The log for the former produced nothing unusual - just a list of Fetches (using -i4) and then nothing. The (sanitized) log from the latter is attached, generated with sb_imapfilter -c -v -i4 -- Ken Gordon (780) 910-7652 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 10617 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050113/c3550a4f/log.obj From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Jan 13 21:19:37 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Jan 13 21:20:22 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Training oddity/confusion In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > >With 'classic' train to exhaustion, the database is kept exactly > >balanced, I believe. How well is your system working for you? > > Erm, not all that well. :| :( I'm trying to get things rearranged a little for 1.1 so that it's easier to try out different training regimes (including tte) with the various apps, so hopefully that'll help. > My incoming mail is very unbalanced - 17:1 spam:ham since I > started the training - which can't help, but so far I have > 18% unsure spam and 3% false negatives. No mistakes on ham > though; none scored higher than 0.5%. Given that, I suppose I > could simply mess with the thresholds. I've read reports of people who have done that (in an extreme way, so that the cutoffs are 5% and 10% or something like that). It seems pretty risky to me, though, since a message that contains nothing that has been seen before will score 0.5 and that would be same under that system... =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Jan 13 21:32:59 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Jan 13 21:33:39 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > When I "recover from Junk" it doesn't seem to filter > subsequent messages as non junk. The next one from the same > email address goes back in to junk. Next time this happens, select the second messages (that was also scored incorrectly) and choose "Show Spam Clues" from the SpamBayes menu on the toolbar. This will create a message with the clues that SpamBayes used to classify the message. You might be able to see from that why it's scoring what it does, or you can send it on to the list and we'll try to explain it for you. (It should not be happening). > Am I doing something > wrong or is there a setting to correct this (I know hotmail > lets you put a selected message on a safe list so subsequent > ones go in to the in box). I was wondering, is there anyway > that I can mark a specific message as GOOD You're probably referring to what is called 'whitelisting', where you mark messages from a particular address as always good, no matter what. FAQ 6.6 covers this: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Jan 13 22:07:34 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Jan 13 22:08:19 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > SpamBayes is supposed to sit somewhere in Outlook, but I > have Outlook Express. Please see FAQ 2.1: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Jan 13 22:15:46 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Jan 13 22:16:24 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Memory error/segmentation fault In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Running SB1.0.1 on Mac OSx (10.3.7), I get a Segmentation Fault from > sb_imapfilter -t -v and a Memory Error from sb_imapfilter -c > -v . The log for the former produced nothing unusual - just a list of > Fetches (using -i4) and then nothing. The (sanitized) log from the > latter is attached, generated with sb_imapfilter -c -v -i4 This has come up before, both here and elsewhere (often with python's imaplib and OS X, sometimes with other python and OS X and sometimes with just OS X). The problem is difficult to handle, because the error is occurring a long way from SpamBayes (SpamBayes calls Python's imaplib, which tries to do a C malloc to get memory, which OS X fails). (Your log does look slightly different than previous ones - which I had hoped we managed to skip over now - but the "*** malloc_zone_malloc[6722]: argument too large: 4294901818" error hints that it's the same problem.) Do you have a *really* large message (it seems to be asking for 4GB of memory, but that message wouldn't necessarily be that large) in a folder that both -c and -t are looking in? If so, moving that message elsewhere should be a workaround for the issue. Longer term, I'm not sure what to do. There was discussion that I believe was related to this on python-dev recently, and I had hoped that they would come up with something that would fix it for us. That doesn't seem to be the case, though, unfortunately. Maybe patching imaplib would help - I'll try that for 1.0.2 and 1.1, anyway, and see if the reports stop. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From ksg at telusplanet.net Thu Jan 13 23:17:18 2005 From: ksg at telusplanet.net (Ken Gordon) Date: Thu Jan 13 23:17:22 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Memory error/segmentation fault In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <88132EA3C075405E8C196F88@KenPowerbook.local> --On 2005 January 14 10:15:46 +1300 Tony Meyer wrote: >> Running SB1.0.1 on Mac OSx (10.3.7), I get a Segmentation Fault from >> sb_imapfilter -t -v and a Memory Error from sb_imapfilter -c >> -v . The log for the former produced nothing unusual - just a list of >> Fetches (using -i4) and then nothing. The (sanitized) log from the >> latter is attached, generated with sb_imapfilter -c -v -i4 ...) > > Do you have a *really* large message (it seems to be asking for 4GB of > memory, but that message wouldn't necessarily be that large) in a folder > that both -c and -t are looking in? If so, moving that message elsewhere > should be a workaround for the issue. > > Longer term, I'm not sure what to do. There was discussion that I believe > was related to this on python-dev recently, and I had hoped that they > would come up with something that would fix it for us. That doesn't seem > to be the case, though, unfortunately. Maybe patching imaplib would help > - I'll try that for 1.0.2 and 1.1, anyway, and see if the reports stop. > > =Tony.Meyer Thanks. I didn't have anything *really* large but I removed a few messages, starting with the largest, until things started working again. Unfortunately, I was not methodical enough to keep a record that would narrow down the offending message, so even if having it would help I can't supply it with any certainty. Thanks for the help. -- Ken Gordon From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Jan 13 23:29:05 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Jan 13 23:29:53 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Memory error/segmentation fault In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Thanks. I didn't have anything *really* large but I removed a > few messages, starting with the largest, until things started > working again. Unfortunately, I was not methodical enough to > keep a record that would narrow down the offending message, > so even if having it would help I can't supply it with any > certainty. I've checked in a change for 1.0.2 and 1.1 that I hope will solve this problem, although I can't be sure (I don't have a mac to test it on). Until they're released, the solution will be to do just that: remove from the largest until it works. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From rancherm at bgu.ac.il Fri Jan 14 17:50:24 2005 From: rancherm at bgu.ac.il (Ran Chermesh) Date: Fri Jan 14 17:50:35 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] An unexpected Outlook error Message-ID: <20050114165032.D5E261E401A@bag.python.org> Hi, I keep getting the following error message from spambaes. Moving a message failed due to an unexpected Outlook error. Exception 0x80070057 (MAPI_E_INVALID_PARAMETER). The parameter is incorrect. The message seem to appear related to a problem I'm reported earlier, the appearance of empty message, envelop only, in my Junk Suspect folder. How do I identify the wrong parameter? Ran -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050114/36151501/attachment.html From TJLWBECGSGWU at spammotel.com Fri Jan 14 19:47:50 2005 From: TJLWBECGSGWU at spammotel.com (Mathew Hendry) Date: Fri Jan 14 19:48:49 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Training oddity/confusion References: Message-ID: On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:19:37 +1300, "Tony Meyer" wrote: >> >With 'classic' train to exhaustion, the database is kept exactly >> >balanced, I believe. How well is your system working for you? >> >> Erm, not all that well. :| > >:( I'm trying to get things rearranged a little for 1.1 so that it's easier >to try out different training regimes (including tte) with the various apps, >so hopefully that'll help. Ah, that sounds good. You mean by making it easier to tweak the training code, or by exposing more options in the user interface? >> My incoming mail is very unbalanced - 17:1 spam:ham since I >> started the training - which can't help, but so far I have >> 18% unsure spam and 3% false negatives. No mistakes on ham >> though; none scored higher than 0.5%. Given that, I suppose I >> could simply mess with the thresholds. > >I've read reports of people who have done that (in an extreme way, so that >the cutoffs are 5% and 10% or something like that). It seems pretty risky >to me, though, since a message that contains nothing that has been seen >before will score 0.5 and that would be same under that system... I don't think I'd need to go that far. Most of the unsure spam I get is in the 70-90% range. The FNs are all 419-type scams - got to give the Nigerians points for effort, they're laboriously written and different every time. BTW, I'm also seeing better results since finally re-enabling my SpamCopAndAssassin patch and retraining (was running vanilla 1.0.1 before). The URL blacklist support (http://surbl.org) recently added to SpamAssassin seems to make for particularly good spam clues; from the most recent spam to come in: Combined Score: 100% (0.999917) Internal ham score (*H*): 2.23853e-005 Internal spam score (*S*): 0.999857 # ham trained on: 187 # spam trained on: 193 29 Significant Tokens token spamprob #ham #spam 'out:' 0.0918367 2 0 'viagra,' 0.155172 1 0 'to:addr:[munged]' 0.299867 84 37 'url:index' 0.301585 16 7 'url:com' 0.603076 79 124 'private' 0.611308 3 5 'over' 0.616477 18 30 'discount' 0.648476 2 4 'save' 0.654963 5 10 'proto:http' 0.656739 87 172 'url:' 0.694878 22 52 'sell' 0.719354 1 3 'prescription' 0.801118 2 9 'header:Received:8' 0.802243 7 30 '70%' 0.805954 1 5 'sa_rule:3.0:DRUGS_ERECTILE' 0.84212 4 23 'drugs.' 0.844828 0 1 'shipping!' 0.844828 0 1 'subject:discount' 0.844828 0 1 'x-mailer:microsoft outlook [snip] 0.89925 1 11 'generic' 0.908163 0 2 'subject:without' 0.908163 0 2 'sa_rule:3.0:URIBL_SBL' 0.939819 6 100 'required!!' 0.949438 0 4 'sa_rule:3.0:URIBL_AB_SURBL' 0.965581 2 64 'thanks:' 0.969799 0 7 'sa_rule:3.0:URIBL_WS_SURBL' 0.973332 3 121 'sa_rule:3.0:URIBL_OB_SURBL' 0.976995 2 97 'sa_rule:3.0:URIBL_SC_SURBL' 0.977448 2 99 Some spammers have now resorted to removing explicit links from their spam and asking recipients to cut and paste an address into their browser, apparently to avoid their URLs automatically being picked up and added to these blacklists. -- Mat. From luciagomes8475z at hotmail.com Fri Jan 14 23:33:40 2005 From: luciagomes8475z at hotmail.com (Lucia Gomes) Date: Fri Jan 14 23:33:44 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] listagem de e-mails Message-ID: <20050114223340.23AF21E4009@bag.python.org> Mais Emails, venda online de listas de email, fazemos mala direta e propaganda de sua empresa ou neg?cio para milh?es de emails. Temos listas de email Mala Direta, Mala-Direta, Cadastro de Emails, Lista de Emails, Mailing List, Milh?es de Emails, Programas de Envio de Email, Email Bombers, Extratores de Email, Listas Segmentadas de Email, Emails Segmentados, Emails em Massa, E-mails http://www.estacion.de/maladireta Temos listas de email Mala Direta, Mala-Direta, Cadastro de Emails, Lista de Emails, Mailing List, Milh?es de Emails, Programas de Envio de Email, Email Bombers, Extratores de Email, Listas Segmentadas de Email, Emails Segmentados, Emails em Massa, E-mails http://www.estacion.de/maladireta From Christopher.Woo at pepperdine.edu Sat Jan 15 02:18:14 2005 From: Christopher.Woo at pepperdine.edu (Woo, Christopher) Date: Sat Jan 15 02:18:21 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Help! Imapfilter and mysql/pickle woes Message-ID: Well, my problem is two-fold: 1) Using a pickle dbm with sb_imapfilter.py is regularly resulting in a corrupt database within days of wiping it out and starting over. I can get about a week out of the database before it corrupts and fails with an assertion error. 2) I've been trying to get the mysql option to work for sb_imapfilter.py on and off for a couple months, but I am still stuck: First off, regardless of what iteration I try, I cannot seem to specify any DSN other than the default. When I try to specify a custom DSN, something happens in the code when it parses the values so that the user field is blank, so that the result is user '@localhost' tries to log onto mysql without success. Upon giving credentials to the default DSN used by the script, I can actually get sb_imapfilter.py to train on a sample of spam and ham successfully, but immediately afterwards, when I try to actually run sb_imapfilter.py to filter my inbox, it fails with the dreaded "Token seen in more spam than spam trained." assertion error: File "C:\Python23\lib\site-packages\spambayes\classifier.py", line 311, in probability assert spamcount <= nspam, "Token seen in more spam than spam trained." AssertionError: Token seen in more spam than spam trained. I'm only training Spambayes on a small sample of spam and ham, maybe 40/15. I've tried all possible combinations of wiping out spambayes.messageinfo.db, the mysql tables, etc. but I cannot seem to get away from this error. Now, if someone can just tell me to stop banging my head on this mysql wall and go back to pickle or dbm, I will do just that, but it doesn't fix my original problem which is that my database just doesn't remain viable long enough. Help!! Chris From Christopher.Woo at pepperdine.edu Sat Jan 15 02:21:53 2005 From: Christopher.Woo at pepperdine.edu (Woo, Christopher) Date: Sat Jan 15 02:22:02 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Help! Imapfilter and mysql/pickle woes Message-ID: Well, my problem is two-fold: 1) Using a pickle dbm with sb_imapfilter.py is regularly resulting in a corrupt database within days of wiping it out and starting over. I can get about a week out of the database before it corrupts and fails with an assertion error. 2) I've been trying to get the mysql option to work for sb_imapfilter.py on and off for a couple months, but I am still stuck: First off, regardless of what iteration I try, I cannot seem to specify any DSN other than the default. When I try to specify a custom DSN, something happens in the code when it parses the values so that the user field is blank, so that the result is user '@localhost' tries to log onto mysql without success. Upon giving credentials to the default DSN used by the script, I can actually get sb_imapfilter.py to train on a sample of spam and ham successfully, but immediately afterwards, when I try to actually run sb_imapfilter.py to filter my inbox, it fails with the dreaded "Token seen in more spam than spam trained." assertion error: File "C:\Python23\lib\site-packages\spambayes\classifier.py", line 311, in probability assert spamcount <= nspam, "Token seen in more spam than spam trained." AssertionError: Token seen in more spam than spam trained. I'm only training Spambayes on a small sample of spam and ham, maybe 40/15. I've tried all possible combinations of wiping out spambayes.messageinfo.db, the mysql tables, etc. but I cannot seem to get away from this error. Now, if someone can just tell me to stop banging my head on this mysql wall and go back to pickle or dbm, I will do just that, but it doesn't fix my original problem which is that my database just doesn't remain viable long enough. Help!! Chris From ira_gilbert at post.harvard.edu Sat Jan 15 20:40:50 2005 From: ira_gilbert at post.harvard.edu (Ira Gilbert) Date: Sat Jan 15 20:40:56 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] a silly question Message-ID: <000801c4fb3a$1eb3eec0$d0092918@P3> I have just started using spambayes today (version 1.01 for a POP3 client, Outlook Express). I have one simple question. It seems to me that when I first installed it yesterday I somehow found a list of the training corpus, all the tokens and their frequency of occurrence. Today I cannot remember where I saw that list, nor how to get back to it. Can anyone help me? R/Ira Gilbert -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From vbargsten at freenet.de Sun Jan 16 01:24:16 2005 From: vbargsten at freenet.de (ApFel) Date: Sun Jan 16 01:24:18 2005 Subject: Fwd: Re: [Spambayes] sb_service doesnt want to stay started In-Reply-To: <996060460.20050108162846@freenet.de> References: <996060460.20050108162846@freenet.de> Message-ID: <889283418.20050116012416@freenet.de> Hi, maybe this helps finding the problem: C:\Programme\SpamBayes\bin>sb_service.exe Services are supposed to be run by the system after they have been installed. These command line options are available for (de)installation: -help -install -remove -auto -disabled -interactive -user: -password: Connecting to the Service Control Manager Traceback (most recent call last): File "boot_service.py", line 166, in ? pywintypes.error: (1063, 'StartServiceCtrlDispatcher', 'Der Dienstprozess konnte keine Verbindung zum Dienstcontroller herstellen.') Dies ist eine weitergeleitete Nachricht Von : ApFel An : spambayes@python.org Datum : Samstag, 8. Januar 2005, 16:28 Betreff: [Spambayes] sb_service doesnt want to stay started ===8<=================== Original Nachrichtentext =================== Guten Tag Tony Meyer, i attached a screenshot of the error message. by "doesnt work" i mean that i get this error message immediatly after pressing start. however, sb_service shows shortly on taskmanager. in english the message means as said the spambayes service was started on local computer and stoppped; some services are automatically stopped when they are idling, like alarm services and performance protocolling services. the webinterface works normal (like everything else) when i start sb_server.exe manually form the explorer. nothing gets added when starting the service. i even deleted the log files and only one spambayesservice1.log is created with the mentioned content. am Sonntag, 2. Januar 2005 um 06:41 schrieben Sie: >> When I start the service one of the log files >> SpamBayesService{1-4}.log is newly created but only contains the >> following: TM> [...] >> Connecting to the Service Control Manager >> Loading database... SMTP Listener on port 112 is proxying >> mx.freenet.de:25 >> Listener on port 111 is proxying pop3.freenet.de:110 >> User interface url is http://localhost:8880/ TM> That looks fine. Does nothing get added when it stops? >> I run the service with the local user account i always use. Setting it >> to use "Local System" account doesnt work either. TM> By "doesn't work", do you mean that it won't even start, or has the same TM> problem with unexpectedly stopping? TM> After how long does the service stop? Immediately after it is started? TM> After a period of time? After you check for mail? After you use the web TM> interface? TM> =Tony.Meyer -- Mit freundlichen Gr?ssen ApFel mailto:vbargsten@freenet.de ===8<============== Ende des Original Nachrichtentextes ============= -- Mit freundlichen Gr?ssen ApFel mailto:vbargsten@freenet.de -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: error.gif Type: image/gif Size: 19660 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050116/0396c4c1/error.gif From gmatthews at iprimus.com.au Sun Jan 16 08:17:40 2005 From: gmatthews at iprimus.com.au (George Matthews) Date: Sun Jan 16 08:16:42 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Starting up Message-ID: <000a01c4fb9b$76fb4d60$0501a8c0@oemcomputer> I need help starting up Spambayes. How do I change my mail client to connect to "localhost" instead of directly to my mail server? I downloaded Spambayes just a few days ago and have used all my mbox and dbx files for training and cant progress any further. Help! George -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050116/81a64f31/attachment.html From harrysigerson at ntlworld.com Sun Jan 16 12:40:01 2005 From: harrysigerson at ntlworld.com (Harry Sigerson) Date: Sun Jan 16 12:39:48 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Starting up In-Reply-To: <000a01c4fb9b$76fb4d60$0501a8c0@oemcomputer> References: <000a01c4fb9b$76fb4d60$0501a8c0@oemcomputer> Message-ID: In article <000a01c4fb9b$76fb4d60$0501a8c0@oemcomputer>, George Matthews wrote: > I need help starting up Spambayes. > How do I change my mail client to > connect to "localhost" instead of directly to my mail server? I downloaded > Spambayes just a few days ago and have used all my mbox and dbx files for > training and cant progress any further. Help! > Hi George, Harry here. I do not use either Outlook or Outlook Express. I am using the OLR 'Virtual Access'. I've have SpamBayes running fine for quite some time. As a part answer to your query and one that you may be able to match in which ever email agent you are using... In VA I went to the drop down File menu which => Comms Setup and in the services there selected the broadband one supplied by NTLworld.com That gave access to VA's Internet Set dialogue box with its tabs for 'Mail' and 'News'. In the Mail tab there are... Mail => Incoming mail (Pop 3) => Server => 'localhost' without the quotes goes there. Then in the same place... Mail => Outgoing mail (SMTP) => Server => 'localhost' once again. That is at least part of the procedure. There is are good web pages on this application... http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/ http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html ...this next link is called in one of the above links as "Instructions on installing Spambayes and integrating it into your mail system." http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/spambayes/spambayes/README.txt ?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/plain http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/windows.html#non-outlook Hope you have some success with your setup of SB. If you are using Outlook there is an Addin but you'll have seen that already during the Installation of the software when you are asked to chose between Harry. From ira_gilbert at post.harvard.edu Sun Jan 16 13:56:11 2005 From: ira_gilbert at post.harvard.edu (Ira Gilbert) Date: Sun Jan 16 13:56:17 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Possible install bug under Windows 2000. Message-ID: <000f01c4fbca$c15f4b70$d0092918@P3> I am new to SpamBayes but an experienced user of Windows 2K. I frequently test new programs and maintain a separate "sandbox" partition to evaluate those I am unsure of. When I am fairly confident of the soundness and utility of a program under test I move it to my main partition. Yesterday I installed a copy of SpamBayes 1.0.1 to my experimental partition and encountered no problems. I rebooted and everything worked fine. Then I reinstalled it to my main partition. Again no problem. However, today when I rebooted I noted that three instances of SBTray were trying to run. Windows 2K also wanted to know what program was to be used to execute .mbox files. I quickly traced the problem to the fact that the SB installer had put the files _pop3proxyham.mbox and _pop3proxyspam.mbox in my windows startup folder, \Documents and Settings\Administrator\.Start Menu\Program Files\Startup. I noticed that on my experimental partition they had been installed in \Program Files\SpamBayes\bin. When I moved the two .mbox files to \Program Files\SpamBayes\bin the problem was cured. It seems to me that this must be an install bug. One possible sidelight. When I installed SpamBayes on my main partition I used INCtrl5, as I usually do to check where everything is going and what registry mods are being made. The report shows that the following files (of 52 new files) were added: Files added: 52 c:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Start Menu\Programs\Startup\SpamBayes Tray Icon.lnk Date: 1/15/2005 8:08 AM Size: 594 bytes c:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\SpamBayes\About SpamBayes.lnk Date: 1/15/2005 8:08 AM Size: 697 bytes c:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\SpamBayes\SpamBayes Tray Icon.lnk Date: 1/15/2005 8:08 AM Size: 594 bytes c:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\SpamBayes\Troubleshooting Guide.lnk Date: 1/15/2005 8:08 AM Size: 709 bytes What is strange is that the two .mbox files that went to .startup instead of to .bin are NOT listed. In fact, there is NO entry regarding the .mbox files having been added at all. It is possible that this is a problem with INCtrl5 itself. But when I uninstalled SpamBayes, and then reinstalled it without running InCtrl5 the .mbox files were in the startup folder. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050116/cbf39ab0/attachment.htm From TJLWBECGSGWU at spammotel.com Sun Jan 16 16:55:17 2005 From: TJLWBECGSGWU at spammotel.com (Mathew Hendry) Date: Sun Jan 16 16:55:57 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] No default check for missing subject header? Message-ID: I've just noticed that there's currently no specific token (by default in 1.0.1 anyway) indicating a lack of a subject header. I've received quite a lot of blank spam recently - mostly from severely broken spamware by the looks of it; many with headers misplaced in the body - and this would add to the scant clues. Mail with nearly all headers missing also seems to be a common characteristic of dictionary attack probes. I changed the subject handling in tokenizer.py to yield a subject:none token in such cases, but haven't tried retraining yet to see exactly how much difference it makes. -- Mat. From tim.peters at gmail.com Sun Jan 16 19:25:34 2005 From: tim.peters at gmail.com (Tim Peters) Date: Sun Jan 16 19:25:37 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] No default check for missing subject header? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1f7befae050116102544cba3f6@mail.gmail.com> [Mathew Hendry] > I've just noticed that there's currently no specific token (by > default in 1.0.1 anyway) indicating a lack of a subject header. This should happen if you set the record_header_absence Tokenizer option to True. As the comment in Options.py says, When True, generate a "noheader:HEADERNAME" token for each header in safe_headers (below) that *doesn't* appear in the headers. This helped in various of Tim's python.org tests, but appeared to hurt a little in Anthony Baxter's tests. Since it had mixed results in testing, it's not enabled by default in general. It _may_ be enabled by default in the Outlook addin, though (can't remember -- it's certainly enabled in my .ini file ). > I've received quite a lot of blank spam recently - mostly from > severely broken spamware by the looks of it; many with headers > misplaced in the body - and this would add to the scant clues. > Mail with nearly all headers missing also seems to be a > common characteristic of dictionary attack probes. Yup, and record_header_absence also synthesizes tokens for the lack of a Date line, From line, To line, Received line, etc. > I changed the subject handling in tokenizer.py to yield a > subject:none token in such cases, but haven't tried retraining yet > to see exactly how much difference it makes. I bet record_header_absence would help you. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Jan 16 22:19:05 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Jan 16 22:19:51 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Dev Questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I am investigating porting the main logic parts to different > languages and do not know Python. > Is there any central place to go to discuss the algorithms, > coding gotchas, etc? Start here. There's the spambayes-dev list, but that's really for discussion about the development of SpamBayes itself, not explaining to people how it works. FWIW, if you add up all the time you'll need to post questions here and wait for answers, you'd save time by just learning enough Python to understand the code. If you can code in another language, then it'll hardly take any time. (As an added benefit, you'll then realise that you don't need to port the code, you can just use it <0.5 wink>). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jan 17 00:48:12 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jan 17 00:48:50 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Possible install bug under Windows 2000. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I quickly traced the problem to the fact that the SB installer > had put the files _pop3proxyham.mbox and _pop3proxyspam.mbox > in my windows startup folder, [...] This occurs if you use the "Train" box on the main page of the web interface. The files are created in the current working directory, which I guess for you was the startup folder. They'll put in a more sensible place in 1.1. For the moment, you can simply delete them if you use the "Train" box (it's not really of much use, since we recommend that you don't do pretraining). They aren't used for anything - they're just there in case you need to recover if something goes wrong. > It seems to me that this must be an install bug. They don't get installed, rather they are created at runtime. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jan 17 00:54:06 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jan 17 00:56:08 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] a silly question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > It seems to me that when I first installed it yesterday > I somehow found a list of the training corpus, all the tokens > and their frequency of occurrence. Today I cannot remember > where I saw that list, nor how to get back to it. Can anyone help me? If you want a list of the tokens for one particular message, you click the "Tokens" link on the review page next to that message. If you want to search for a particular token, you use the "word query" box on the main page of the web interface. That box lets you use wildcards (or regular expressions), so if you want to see every token in the database you can just enter "*" (or ".*" for regex). It only shows a limited number (10 by default) in the results, but you can increase that (and the limited display will tell you how many weren't shown). Note that displaying an entire database could take some time (and it's possible that the browser might timeout). You can also use the sb_dbexpimp.py script (if you have the source) to convert the database to a CSV file, and open it in (eg) Excel. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jan 17 02:44:50 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jan 17 02:45:30 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] An unexpected Outlook error In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I keep getting the following error message from spambaes. > > Moving a message failed due to an unexpected Outlook error. > Exception 0x80070057 (MAPI_E_INVALID_PARAMETER). > The parameter is incorrect. What sort of store is this? Local (pst) file, IMAP, Hotmail, Exchange, ...? If a local store, try running the Inbox Repair Tool (scanpst) over the file. If it's IMAP, do you have any idea what type of IMAP server it is? Does this happen for any message that SpamBayes tries to move? What happens if you don't move the messages - does everything work correctly then? What happens if you manually move a message that SpamBayes has already scored? You could try turning off the "save spam info" option (see the configuration guide) and see if that helps. Could you send us a copy of a log file that covers a period when this happens? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jan 17 02:46:35 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jan 17 02:47:14 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes causes a 0x8004010f eror message In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Spambayes cuses the following error message on my > winxp (SP2) Outlook 2003 system: > > Moving a message failed due to an unexpected Outlook error. > Exception 0x8004010f (MAPI_E_NOT_FOUND): OLE error 0x8004010f When exactly does this happen? When you open Outlook? When SpamBayes tries to filter? When you try and train? What sort of store are you using? IMAP, Hotmail, pst, Exchange? Do you have a log file for the time this occurred? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jan 17 03:19:25 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jan 17 03:20:00 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Starting up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > How do I change my mail client to connect to "localhost" > instead of directly to my mail server? I'm guessing you're using Outlook Express. I've just create a new FAQ with help in this sitution: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From rancherm at bgu.ac.il Mon Jan 17 03:31:52 2005 From: rancherm at bgu.ac.il (Ran Chermesh) Date: Mon Jan 17 03:47:07 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes causes a 0x8004010f eror message In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050117023203.8EC2B1E4002@bag.python.org> Tony, See my answers below. <=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=> Prof. Ran Chermesh Behavioral Sciences Dept., Ben-Gurion University Phones: (323) 934-6792 - Home (310) 218-3732 - Cellphone Fax: (412)-202-5443 (eFax) Home address: 118 N Hayworth Ave #3, LA CA 90048. Email: rancherm@bgu.ac.il <=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=> A conclusion is a place where a person got tired of thinking Too often, due process is used to promote abuse, instead of to prevent it -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 5:47 PM To: 'Ran Chermesh'; spambayes@python.org Cc: 'Ran Chermesh' Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spambayes causes a 0x8004010f eror message > Spambayes cuses the following error message on my > winxp (SP2) Outlook 2003 system: > > Moving a message failed due to an unexpected Outlook error. > Exception 0x8004010f (MAPI_E_NOT_FOUND): OLE error 0x8004010f When exactly does this happen? When you open Outlook? When SpamBayes tries to filter? When you try and train? [RC] It happens quite frequently, whenever spambayes filters my mail. Since I've been using the application for a long time, I've not tried it while training the program. What sort of store are you using? 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You mean by making it easier to tweak > the training code, or by exposing more options in the user interface? Easier to tweak the code. I'd like to have a central place to hook into training. I've got some code that does this, but it still needs more work before I check it in. If I manage to get it done, I'll include algorithms for train-on-everything, train-on-nothing, nonedge, and tte. I'd like to have it reasonably easy for someone to add a new style, and reasonably easy for people to switch between them without having to alter their use behaviour. > I don't think I'd need to go that far. Most of the unsure > spam I get is in the 70-90% range. [...] I'd imagine that 70% would be safe enough as a spam cutoff. > BTW, I'm also seeing better results since finally re-enabling > my SpamCopAndAssassin patch and retraining (was running > vanilla 1.0.1 before). The URL blacklist support > (http://surbl.org) recently added to SpamAssassin seems to > make for particularly good spam clues; from the most recent > spam to come in: [...] > 'sa_rule:3.0:DRUGS_ERECTILE' 0.84212 4 23 Hmmm. I won't ask about the four ham with that clue . > Some spammers have now resorted to removing explicit links > from their spam and asking recipients to cut and paste an > address into their browser, apparently to avoid their URLs > automatically being picked up and added to these blacklists. You mean it's just http://spambayes.org instead of my site? We'd still generate the appropriate URL tokens for that, I believe. (And Outlook still considers the first a link). Or is this something more complex? =Tony.Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jan 17 04:17:36 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jan 17 04:18:16 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook plugin: Spam and MaybeSpam folders only havetoolbar button "Delete as Spam", not "Recover from Spam" button In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I've been encountering this bug which seems to appear 80% of > the time since my Outlook got upgraded to OL2003 under WinXP. > That being, in my "Spam" and "Maybe Spam" folders, I should see > a "Recover from Spam" button. However, the only buttons I see > on either of these folders is "Delete As Spam". > > Occasionally I have seen the correct buttons appear, but they do > not persist. Have you checked everything in FAQ 3.15? You could try deleting outcmd.dat as described in the troubleshooting guide - since this happened after an update, that might be the problem. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jan 17 04:20:14 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jan 17 04:20:55 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] tons of false positives after upgrading In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [inconsistent database counts problem] > It looks like you were correct, because there is a > statistics_database.db with a time stamp of last night, and > hammie.db with a timestamp from a few minutes ago. So if it > switched me from statistics_database.db to hammie.db last > night that would make sense. I'm convinced that this is the problem then. This is looking like a pretty busy week, but I'll try to make sure that 1.0.2 gets out next week, which will take care of this. > FYI, the "Header Options" section on the config page shows up > twice, once at the very bottom, and once after "SMTP Proxy Options." That doesn't matter - sections can appear as often as they like (so can options - later values just replace earlier ones). Our writing code tries to be good and lump sections together, but it doesn't always succeed, particularly when adding a new option to an existing section (as opposed to a new option in a new section). Since humans rarely look at the file (unless they manage it by hand) it shouldn't really matter. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jan 17 04:25:07 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jan 17 04:25:44 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] "Delete as Spam" while the message is open. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I am not sure if I am doing something wrong or if > this is not a current feature of SpamBayes. The latter. > I am using SpamBayes 1.0.1 with Outlook XP, using a > combination of Exchange Server and Pop3 accounts. I > can see the "Delete and Spam" button in the toolbar > while I am viewing a particular folder of messages. > However, once I open a message, I do not have the > "Delete as Spam" button. I must close the message > before marking it as spam. > > It would be nice to review the message and then mark > the message without having to close the message and > then click "Delete as Spam" for every message that is spam. There's an open feature request for this: [ 744558 ] Add "Delete As Spam" button to Outlook inspector w However, it was opened in May 2003 and hasn't been added yet...it's likely that someone will get to it at some point, but I don't know when. Feel free to add comments to the tracker linked above indicating that you agree that this would be a good feature to have. More "me too"'s will increase the chance that someone will choose to implement it. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jan 17 04:30:30 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jan 17 04:31:06 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Refresh rate In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > On my new machine, the refresh rate when moving emails > between folders is much slower when moving from Inbox to > either "Junk" or "Suspects" or in response to clicking the > "delete as spam" or "recover from spam" buttons. All other [...] > Is there any way to make the refresh immediate like it was on > my old slower machine, or is it a timing issue that I'm stuck with??? This is a well known problem, but it's not clear what the cause is. It happens with Outlook 2002 and 2003, typically (always?) with Exchange. Basically the move occurs (you can't do anything to the message, and other views, eg OWA, will show the move), but Outlook fails to update. My best guess is that we need to do something extra (and it appears undocumented) to get Outlook to realise that it needs to update the display. Unfortunately, no-one has been able to figure out what needs to be done. There's an open bug report about this (although I can't see it right now, I'm sure it's there) and if we do manage to find out what causes it we'll definitely put in the fix. For the moment, we're a little stuck, sorry. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jan 17 04:42:50 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jan 17 04:43:31 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] possible bug with spambayes? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Background filtering timer values] > 2 Remarks: > - the min value is 0.5 seconds, could be maybe 0.1 or so, as > filtering takes less than 0.5 sec on my PC. I'll change the minimum with 1.1 to 0.1, since that sounds reasonable. Lower than that and you might as well turn it off. > - I myself never touched the timer values, so the wrong > setting must have been from the beginning? The default values are 2.0 and 1.0 - perhaps the configuration got corrupted or migration of old values was bad. IAC, glad to hear it's working now. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From wdickson at wdn.com Mon Jan 17 08:26:48 2005 From: wdickson at wdn.com (Wallace Dickson) Date: Mon Jan 17 08:26:50 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Incoming mail failure - server times out Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Pour acc??der ?? ce formulaire de contact, merci de cliquer ici ou de recopier le lien ci-dessous : (Vous serez amen?? ?? vous identifier avec votre email et votre mot de passe) http://www.vente-privee.com/form-vip Restant ?? votre disposition pour toute information compl??mentaire, C??cile de Rostand Responsable des Relations Membres -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050117/03711a91/attachment.html From oao at csi.com Mon Jan 17 16:23:29 2005 From: oao at csi.com (oao@csi.com) Date: Mon Jan 17 16:23:50 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Plugin for Eudora Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20050117072123.0375f670@pop.sbcglobal.yahoo.com> Hi, Do you have, or will you provide a Spambayes plugin for Eudora? Thanks. Regards, FP From skip at pobox.com Mon Jan 17 18:23:28 2005 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Mon Jan 17 19:00:26 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Plugin for Eudora In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050117072123.0375f670@pop.sbcglobal.yahoo.com> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050117072123.0375f670@pop.sbcglobal.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <16875.62608.926303.232264@montanaro.dyndns.org> FP> Hi, Do you have, or will you provide a Spambayes plugin for Eudora? There is no Eudora plugin. If someone with the motivation wanted one badly enough I doubt it would be terribly hard to write. Eudora does have a published plugin API. There was a period of time when I worked at Northwestern University (their default mail user agent there is Eudora) that I thought about doing it, but I wasn't motivated enough, since I didn't use Eudora myself. Skip From nospam at nospam.com Mon Jan 17 19:08:35 2005 From: nospam at nospam.com (TP Lowell) Date: Mon Jan 17 19:08:41 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Can I use spambayes on a webhosting server? Message-ID: <000c01c4fcbf$907423a0$6501a8c0@wi.rr.com> Hello We get our e-mail from several computers. Instead of trying to install a spam filter on each computer, I would like to get one filter on the server to check all incoming mail for the web hosted domain. It looks like one of the below methods might do the trick, but I don't know how to implement them. Any help will be appreciated. 1. Pop3proxy / sb_server 2. Imapfilter Lowell Johnson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050117/0fb0dda4/attachment.htm From jramsey3 at cinci.rr.com Mon Jan 17 19:20:12 2005 From: jramsey3 at cinci.rr.com (J. Ramsey) Date: Mon Jan 17 19:20:05 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] looking for andrew f kappels e-mail address. Message-ID: <000f01c4fcc1$3022a100$b7cb8545@carolaj11i28vx> Hello my name is Mr. Dan Nordheim and I have been searching for Andrew F. Kappels e-mail address and cant seem to find it. Can you possibly help. Thank you for your time. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050117/3e91f878/attachment.html From Christopher.Woo at pepperdine.edu Mon Jan 17 20:23:28 2005 From: Christopher.Woo at pepperdine.edu (Woo, Christopher) Date: Mon Jan 17 20:23:36 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Help! Imapfilter and mysql/pickle woes Message-ID: Well, my problem is two-fold: 1) Using a pickle dbm with sb_imapfilter.py is regularly resulting in a corrupt database within days of wiping it out and starting over. I can get about a week out of the database before it corrupts and fails with an assertion error. 2) I've been trying to get the mysql option to work for sb_imapfilter.py on and off for a couple months, but I am still stuck: First off, regardless of what iteration I try, I cannot seem to specify any DSN other than the default. When I try to specify a custom DSN, something happens in the code when it parses the values so that the user field is blank, so that the result is user '@localhost' tries to log onto mysql without success. Upon giving credentials to the default DSN used by the script, I can actually get sb_imapfilter.py to train on a sample of spam and ham successfully, but immediately afterwards, when I try to actually run sb_imapfilter.py to filter my inbox, it fails with the dreaded "Token seen in more spam than spam trained." assertion error: File "C:\Python23\lib\site-packages\spambayes\classifier.py", line 311, in probability assert spamcount <= nspam, "Token seen in more spam than spam trained." AssertionError: Token seen in more spam than spam trained. I'm only training Spambayes on a small sample of spam and ham, maybe 40/15. I've tried all possible combinations of wiping out spambayes.messageinfo.db, the mysql tables, etc. but I cannot seem to get away from this error. Now, if someone can just tell me to stop banging my head on this mysql wall and go back to pickle or dbm, I will do just that, but it doesn't fix my original problem which is that my database just doesn't remain viable long enough. Help!! Chris (Apologies if this shows up multiple times. For some reason I am having difficulties sending to this list.) From TJLWBECGSGWU at spammotel.com Mon Jan 17 20:38:37 2005 From: TJLWBECGSGWU at spammotel.com (Mathew Hendry) Date: Mon Jan 17 20:39:13 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Training oddity/confusion References: Message-ID: <0g1ou0hcu59q2mec1602op68n2a6octj31@4ax.com> "Tony Meyer" wrote in : >[Mathew Hendry] >> 'sa_rule:3.0:DRUGS_ERECTILE' 0.84212 4 23 > >Hmmm. I won't ask about the four ham with that clue . Heh, SpamCop autoresponder mail I think. I should move those out of SpamBayes's way, they'll only confuse it. :) >[Mathew Hendry] >> Some spammers have now resorted to removing explicit links >> from their spam and asking recipients to cut and paste an >> address into their browser, apparently to avoid their URLs >> automatically being picked up and added to these blacklists. > >You mean it's just http://spambayes.org instead of href="http://spambayes.org">my site? We'd still generate the >appropriate URL tokens for that, I believe. (And Outlook still considers >the first a link). Or is this something more complex? Just the bare address: spambayes.org. The latest one has another little problem, in that SpamBayes didn't pick up the lone key word (OnlineMeds) in the body as a token: Combined Score: 99% (0.988772) Internal ham score (*H*): 0.000525799 Internal spam score (*S*): 0.97807 # ham trained on: 213 # spam trained on: 296 10 Significant Tokens token spamprob #ham #spam 'to:addr:hotmail.com' 0.330177 44 30 'header:Received:7' 0.67898 21 62 'from:addr:gepgqwvck.com' 0.844828 0 1 'from:addr:khbdc' 0.844828 0 1 'from:name:mauricio y' 0.844828 0 1 'message-id:@yzm046' 0.844828 0 1 'to:addr:[munged]' 0.844828 0 1 'to:name:[munged] 0.844828 0 1 'sa_rule:3.0:X_MESSAGE_INFO' 0.892611 6 71 'skip:| 10' 0.908163 0 2 Message Stream Return-Path: Delivered-To: [munged] Received: (qmail 13335 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2005 18:44:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO c60.cesmail.net) (192.168.1.105) by blade3.cesmail.net with SMTP; 17 Jan 2005 18:44:18 -0000 Received: from mailgate.cesmail.net (216.154.195.36) by c60.cesmail.net with SMTP; 17 Jan 2005 13:44:17 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.88,132,1102309200"; d="scan'208"; a="166178726:sNHT33959402" Received: (qmail 32322 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2005 18:44:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailgate.cesmail.net) (192.168.1.101) by mailgate.cesmail.net with SMTP; 17 Jan 2005 18:44:16 -0000 X-Message-Status: n X-SID-PRA: Mauricio y X-SID-Result: TempError X-Message-Info: dpeAAki3kMTUgBZoR8CzXc0c5fj8X1IT4l+pJDjhWXY= Received: from popgate.cesmail.net [192.168.1.201] by mailgate.cesmail.net with POP3 (fetchmail-6.2.1) for [munged] (single-drop); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:44:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from MDB01 ([211.115.220.98]) by mc1-f1.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:42:43 -0800 To: "[munged]" <[munged]> Subject: hi From: "Mauricio y" Message-Id: <25595296.0866629602717.JavaMail.SYSTEM@yzm046> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:38:32 -0200 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - showroom.fellkko.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - concord.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [71 71762] / [10 19] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - mailmen.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: /usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL X-Source-Dir: /home/usbranch/public_html/mailing X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jan 2005 18:42:44.0461 (UTC) FILETIME=[551781D0:01C4FCC4] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on blade3.cesmail.net X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Status: hits=4.2 tests=X_MESSAGE_INFO version=3.0.0 X-SpamCop-Checked: 192.168.1.105 216.154.195.36 192.168.1.101 192.168.1.201 211.115.220.98 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.0.302 [265.6.13] |||OnlineMeds pmpn.poineed.com All Message Tokens 23 unique tokens 'cc:none' 'content-type:text/plain' 'from:addr:gepgqwvck.com' 'from:addr:khbdc' 'from:name:mauricio y' 'header:Date:1' 'header:From:1' 'header:Message-Id:1' 'header:Received:7' 'header:Return-Path:1' 'header:Subject:1' 'header:To:1' 'message-id:@yzm046' 'reply-to:none' 'sa_rule:3.0:X_MESSAGE_INFO' 'sender:none' 'skip:p 10' 'skip:| 10' 'to:2**0' 'to:addr:[munged]' 'to:addr:[munged]' 'to:name:[munged]' 'x-mailer:none' -- Mat. From tim.peters at gmail.com Mon Jan 17 21:19:09 2005 From: tim.peters at gmail.com (Tim Peters) Date: Mon Jan 17 21:19:12 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Training oddity/confusion In-Reply-To: <0g1ou0hcu59q2mec1602op68n2a6octj31@4ax.com> References: <0g1ou0hcu59q2mec1602op68n2a6octj31@4ax.com> Message-ID: <1f7befae0501171219aa827cd@mail.gmail.com> [Mathew Hendry] ... > The latest one has another little problem, in that SpamBayes > didn't pick up the lone key word (OnlineMeds) in the body as a > token: It did, but not in the way you expected: > |||OnlineMeds ... > All Message Tokens ... > 'skip:| 10' SB splits on whitespace, so "|||OnlineMeds" was viewed as one token. A token that's "too long" (this one is 13 characters) gets replaced with a synthesized "skip:" token. From steve at crmsoftware.com.au Tue Jan 18 02:06:23 2005 From: steve at crmsoftware.com.au (Steve Vanspall) Date: Tue Jan 18 02:19:01 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Using Spambayes on another machine that is part of a Win2000 Workgroup (Connection Refused) Message-ID: <009c01c4fcf9$ede34f90$6d00a8c0@TomJones> Hi there I know this is actually a Win200 Workgroup problem, but I hoped someone would have a solution here. I have 4 computers connected together as a workgroup for windows 2000. I want to house my spambayes server on one machine "192.168.0.102", and use it to serve all teh other machines. Having installed it locally on one machine without any trouble, I decided to install it on the new machine (192.168.0.102) and just change my Outlook Express settings to access (192.168.0.102:8110) whici is configured to acccess my pop3 server on teh internet. When I try to do this, I get teh following error The server responded with an error. Account: 'pop.iprimus.com.au', Server: '192.168.0.102', Protocol: POP3, Server Response: '-ERR Connection not allowed', Port: 8110, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 0x800CCC90, Error Number: 0x800CCC90 I have also tried calling the computer by it's name, this sometimes is a quirk that works in win2000, but this didn't help either. I did a netstat on 192.168.0.102 and is showed that it was listening on port 8110, but that the external address, like many other ports it was listening on, was 192.168.0.102:0 Is there something I have to do to open the port to the network? Security isn't a problem because the entire workgroup is behind a separate firewall built into a router. Any help woudl be appreciated Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Pablo From jscs at surewest.net Tue Jan 18 04:59:17 2005 From: jscs at surewest.net (Jerry Scheinberg) Date: Tue Jan 18 04:59:28 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] HOW ABOUT USE OF OUTLOOK EXPRESS Message-ID: <20050118035927.2A5D41E4003@bag.python.org> CAN I USE SPAMBAYES WITH OUTLOOK EXPRESS? JERRY SCHEINBERG -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050117/cdf3875a/attachment.html From skip at pobox.com Tue Jan 18 05:11:15 2005 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Tue Jan 18 06:00:10 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] HOW ABOUT USE OF OUTLOOK EXPRESS In-Reply-To: <20050118035927.2A5D41E4003@bag.python.org> References: <20050118035927.2A5D41E4003@bag.python.org> Message-ID: <16876.35939.652125.139101@montanaro.dyndns.org> Jerry> Can I use Spambayes with Outlook Express? Sure: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#does-spambayes-work-with-outlook-express -- Skip Montanaro skip@mojam.com http://www.mojam.com/ From nd at www.naturaldesign.fr Tue Jan 18 10:51:36 2005 From: nd at www.naturaldesign.fr (nd@www.naturaldesign.fr) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:10:21 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Automated reply from nd@www.naturaldesign.fr Message-ID: <200501180951.j0I9paJ13816@paris65.amenworld.com> Nous avons bien reçu votre e.mail et nous vous en remerçions. Nous vous répondrons dés que possible. A très bientôt ! L'équipe de NATURAL DESIGN. From mbalfour at ieee.org Tue Jan 18 13:45:59 2005 From: mbalfour at ieee.org (Manny Balfour) Date: Tue Jan 18 13:45:39 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] How does one stop the LOG FILE? Message-ID: Can anyone tell me how to turn off the logging to a Log File in the Temp directory? I don't really need it routinely and it remains in TEMP forever. Running Spambayes 1.0.1. Thanks, Manny Balfour mbalfour@ieee.org From RickFriedman at vfemail.net Tue Jan 18 20:33:54 2005 From: RickFriedman at vfemail.net (Rick Friedman) Date: Tue Jan 18 21:02:33 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Trained two times as much spam as ham Message-ID: <41ED64A2.4010809@vfemail.net> I was just wondering about the ratio of spam to ham trained. I've been training on errors & unsures. So far, I've trained 126 spams and 51 hams. I keep hearing that we should strive to keep the training ratio at about 1:1. Spambayes is working very well with the current training. I can't remember the last time an email was misclassified. However, I do still get man unsures which, inevitably, turn out to be spam. I then train Spambayes on those unsures. Obviously, my concern is that Spambayes' effectiveness will diminish as I continue to train more on more spam. The only time I seem to train as ham is when a ham email shows as unsure (which is few & far between). Am I right to be concerned about this, apparent, continually growing, imbalance in the training ratio? If so, what should I do about it? Any help is greatly appreciated. Rick -- "Try not to become a man of success, but rather, try to become a man of value." - Albert Einstein From TJLWBECGSGWU at spammotel.com Tue Jan 18 22:17:29 2005 From: TJLWBECGSGWU at spammotel.com (Mathew Hendry) Date: Tue Jan 18 22:18:26 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Trained two times as much spam as ham References: <41ED64A2.4010809@vfemail.net> Message-ID: <7otqu0169se5fsgeefsubsvcot30vcabn8@4ax.com> Rick Friedman wrote in <41ED64A2.4010809@vfemail.net>: >I was just wondering about the ratio of spam to ham trained. > >I've been training on errors & unsures. So far, I've trained 126 spams >and 51 hams. I keep hearing that we should strive to keep the training >ratio at about 1:1. > >Spambayes is working very well with the current training. I can't >remember the last time an email was misclassified. However, I do still >get man unsures which, inevitably, turn out to be spam. I then train >Spambayes on those unsures. > >Obviously, my concern is that Spambayes' effectiveness will diminish as >I continue to train more on more spam. The only time I seem to train as >ham is when a ham email shows as unsure (which is few & far between). > >Am I right to be concerned about this, apparent, continually growing, >imbalance in the training ratio? If so, what should I do about it? I wouldn't worry too much about it, unless it becomes extremely unbalanced (say 10:1) and/or you start seeing a lot of ham being scored as unsure. At that point you should probably consider retraining from scratch. You might also want to try rescoring your existing ham from time to time, to make sure none of those have crept up into unsure/spam territory. The spammers are doing their best to slip past every filter people can throw at them, so spam tends to be less predictable and consistent than regular mail that isn't trying to fool anybody. Naturally you'll get some unsures - most of mine are "minimalist" spam that consists of only a word or two and a randomized link; very little for SpamBayes to go on. -- Mat. From kenny.pitt at gmail.com Tue Jan 18 22:19:42 2005 From: kenny.pitt at gmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Tue Jan 18 22:19:46 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Trained two times as much spam as ham In-Reply-To: <41ED64A2.4010809@vfemail.net> Message-ID: <41ed7d6f.25e73a6f.1457.006d@smtp.gmail.com> Rick Friedman wrote: > I was just wondering about the ratio of spam to ham trained. > > I've been training on errors & unsures. So far, I've trained 126 spams > and 51 hams. I keep hearing that we should strive to keep the training > ratio at about 1:1. 2.5:1 is not badly unbalanced. Most times when people are having a problem it is because their imbalance is 20:1, 50:1, or even worse. > Spambayes is working very well with the current training. I can't > remember the last time an email was misclassified. This is really the key criteria. Imbalance can cause some issues in the mathematical formulas, but whether or not that has any real effect on your accuracy depends on your particular e-mail mix. If your accuracy is fine then you haven't got a problem even if your imbalance is 100:1. > However, I do still > get man unsures which, inevitably, turn out to be spam. I then train > Spambayes on those unsures. This is pretty typical, and I see the same effect in my own mail. My good messages have very similar characteristics that make them easy to identify correctly. On the other hand, there is a huge, constantly changing variety of spam. You may be able to help this some by adjusting your spam threshold. On the Filtering tab in SpamBayes Manager, you'll see a cutoff score in the Certain Spam section that defaults to 90.0. We set the default relatively high because we want to minimize false positives. However, most people can reduce the threshold to get more unsures to classify as spam without causing other problems. 75 is probably a reasonable value. I personally run mine at 60 and haven't had a single false positive since I last retrained, but I wouldn't necessarily consider that typical. > Obviously, my concern is that Spambayes' effectiveness will diminish > as I continue to train more on more spam. The only time I seem to > train as ham is when a ham email shows as unsure (which is few & far > between). > > Am I right to be concerned about this, apparent, continually growing, > imbalance in the training ratio? If so, what should I do about it? Yes and no. The nature of spam makes it highly likely that the imbalance will continue to grow. As developers, we are very concerned about this and are trying to come up with some ideas to improve the situation. Unfortunately, it's a difficult problem to solve in a general way. In a practical sense, though, it probably won't become a huge problem for you. The imbalance will grow, but it probably won't grow fast enough to reach dangerous levels. If you do reach a point where accuracy is reduced, that may mean that you'll have more unsure hams to train on for a while to pull it back in line. If it really becomes a problem, you can just reset your training and spend a couple of days retraining SpamBayes from scratch. We've found that it doesn't take very long at all for SpamBayes to get back to very high accuracy rates even when starting from nothing. -- Kenny Pitt From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Jan 18 22:24:30 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Jan 18 22:25:12 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] How does one stop the LOG FILE? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Can anyone tell me how to turn off the logging to a Log File > in the Temp directory? The only way is to run from source. > I don't really need it routinely and it remains in TEMP forever. I suppose "remains in TEMP forever" is technically correct, but it gives the wrong impression. There are 4 SpamBayes log files. A new one is created each time SpamBayes is started up - at that time the oldest log file is removed. So although you always have four logs there, they are continually different, and should always be pretty small (unless you're getting a lot of errors, or have changed the verbosity options). You can, of course, run some sort of scheduled program to clear out your temp directory at whatever interval you like. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Jan 18 22:28:00 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Jan 18 22:28:50 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Training oddity/confusion In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Mathew Hendry] >>> 'sa_rule:3.0:DRUGS_ERECTILE' 0.84212 4 23 [Tony Meyer] >> Hmmm. I won't ask about the four ham with that clue . [Mathew Hendry] > Heh, SpamCop autoresponder mail I think. I should move those > out of SpamBayes's way, they'll only confuse it. :) Well the clue is still pretty strongly spammy - it's probably safe enough to leave things as they are. There are plenty of tokens that are predominately spam (ham) and appear in the odd ham (spam), after all. [picking up URLs] > Just the bare address: spambayes.org. If you enable [Tokenizer] x-fancy_url_recognition then that will be picked up as a URL rather than just plain text. IIRC there hasn't been any large scale testing on whether this is good or not, so it may lose its experimental status at some point, if it does help. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Jan 18 22:33:12 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Jan 18 22:33:50 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Plugin for Eudora In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [FP] >> Hi, Do you have, or will you provide a Spambayes plugin for Eudora? [Skip] > There is no Eudora plugin. If someone with the motivation > wanted one badly enough I doubt it would be terribly hard to > write. I assume you are aware of this, but just in case you aren't: SpamBayes will of course work with Eudora (either sb_server for POP3 or sb_imapfilter for IMAP4), and although you don't get the handy plug-in integration, the web interface is pretty useable really. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Jan 18 22:38:18 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Jan 18 22:38:56 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Using Spambayes on another machine that is part of aWin2000 Workgroup (Connection Refused) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I want to house my spambayes server on one machine > "192.168.0.102", and use it to serve all teh other machines. [...] > When I try to do this, I get teh following error > > The server responded with an error. Account: 'pop.iprimus.com.au', > Server: '192.168.0.102', Protocol: POP3, Server Response: > '-ERR Connection not allowed' [...] For security, SpamBayes only allows localhost connections by default. You'll have to open up access - you can do this via the advanced configuration page on the web interface. You're after the options: "Allowed remote POP3 connections" "Allowed remote SMTP connections" "Allowed remote UI connections" (To allow connection from remote locations) And possibly: "HTTP Authentication" (note that Digest is broken in 1.0.1, but will be fixed in 1.0.2) "User name" (for the above authentication) "Password" (ditto) (It is also possible that the 192.168.0.102 machine is firewalled from the others, but that's not something we can help with changing, other than pointing out that it'll be ports 110 and 8880 that you're probably interested in). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From skip at pobox.com Tue Jan 18 22:49:40 2005 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Tue Jan 18 22:49:58 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Trained two times as much spam as ham In-Reply-To: <41ed7d6f.25e73a6f.1457.006d@smtp.gmail.com> References: <41ED64A2.4010809@vfemail.net> <41ed7d6f.25e73a6f.1457.006d@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: <16877.33908.56298.595525@montanaro.dyndns.org> Kenny> Yes and no. The nature of spam makes it highly likely that the Kenny> imbalance will continue to grow. As developers, we are very Kenny> concerned about this and are trying to come up with some ideas to Kenny> improve the situation. Unfortunately, it's a difficult problem Kenny> to solve in a general way. What I do in the contrib/tte.py code is 1. Run through the mailboxes in reverse - the assumption is that newer messages are more important than older ones 2. When finishing up, a new mailbox is written. Any messages that were correctly scored on each train-to-exhaustion pass are not written to the new file. Any messages that were not considered at all (because of ham/spam imbalance) are also scored at this point. If they score correctly, they are not written to the new mailbox. After completion, the user can decide whether or not to overwrite the old mailbox with the new, often smaller, one. My current "best practice" is to allow the spam mailbox to shrink as appropriate, but to never shrink the ham mailbox. I think that may help keep the ham/spam imbalance from getting too far out-of-whack. The other thing I do is periodically trim both the ham and spam datasets to some reasonable number (50-100 messages or so). That keeps any mistakes I make (sometimes my fingers are faster than my brain) from getting too entrenched. The downside is that I have to put up with some extra unsures for a period of time. It might be useful to codify some of these ideas into a tool the user can run to reduce training dataset sizes without necessarily committing to the train-to-exhaustion concept. Skip From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Jan 18 23:01:07 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Jan 18 23:01:25 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] I18N and L10N In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I can't figure out how to search the archives. Google is the best bet. Something like "site:mail.python.org spambayes my search terms". > Is there any internationalization and localization project > around Spambayes? There is a i18n effort being made for the upcoming 1.1 release. The code (in CVS) has been modified to make it a relatively straightforward task. At the moment there is a moderately complete French translation and a much-less complete Spanish and Spanish-Argentina translation done. > May I help translating Spambayes to Spanish? Yes! (The answer to just about any question starting with "may I help" will be yes ). To start, the best thing would probably be to check out a copy of the current CVS (). In the README-DEVEL.txt file in the top directory there are instructions for doing a translation (these are new, like the rest of the effort, so advice about improving the instructions is also appreciated). Feel free to discuss the i18n effort on the development list: spambayes-dev@python.org. If you manage to do some work on it, you can attach the results to trackers on the sourceforge project linked above, or post them to spambayes-dev. Thanks for the offer! =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Jan 18 23:25:36 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Jan 18 23:26:16 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Can I use spambayes on a webhosting server? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > We get our e-mail from several computers. Instead of > trying to install a spam filter on each computer, I > would like to get one filter on the server to check > all incoming mail for the web hosted domain. > It looks like one of the below methods might do the trick, > but I don't know how to implement them. Any help will > be appreciated. > 1. Pop3proxy / sb_server > 2. Imapfilter Can you give us a bit more information about what you're wanting to do? Particularly: 1. What OS is the server running? 2. Can you install anything you like on the server? 3. Do you want a shared database (i.e. the same filtering for all users, with all spam/unsures ending up in the same place) or a different filter for each user? 4. What do you use to get mail from the server? POP3? IMAP4? What mail software is the server running? There's some information at that might be relevant, depending on the answers to the above. If you just want regular client-side filtering but want to have the filter running on the server, then just use sb_server/sb_imapfilter according to the included instructions, but change the "Allowed remote connection" options to allow access from the other machines. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jan 19 01:09:17 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Jan 19 01:10:07 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Incoming mail failure - server times out In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have several email accounts, the default one being my > broadband ISP, Starpower. All incoming mail addressed to > this server is downloaded without error. Another address, > an old dial up ISP, is configured to download through > Starpower (my LAN) so I don't need to dial for access to > this mail account. I have had no problem with downloading > from this account until lately when, after installing > SPAMBayes, the dialup account email will no longer download > to my Outlook 2003 Inbox, but instead I get an error message > as follows: > "WDN (my dialup ISP) - receiving reported error > (0x8004210A). The operation timed out waiting for a response > from the receiving (POP) server. If the problem persists > contact your administrator or ISP." Is this the Outlook plug-in? If so, then SpamBayes doesn't play any role in retrieving mail, so it's odd if it is SpamBayes. What happens if you disable SpamBayes? What happens if you uninstall SpamBayes? (Uninstalling/reinstalling doesn't effect your configuration or training). What do your logs have in them? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jan 19 01:25:44 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Jan 19 01:26:22 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Help! Imapfilter and mysql/pickle woes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > 1) Using a pickle dbm with sb_imapfilter.py is regularly > resulting in a corrupt database within days of wiping it out and starting > over. I can get about a week out of the database before it corrupts > and fails with an assertion error. This is 1.0.1 sb_imapfilter, yes? It would be worth giving CVS sb_imapfilter a go - it should be vastly improved. I've tried to copy most bugfixes over to the 1.0.x branch, but that's not been possible when there are large changes. I also heard today that using Python 2.4 helps, which I suspect means there is a problem handling malformed messages. If using Python 2.4 is easy to do, then it would be worth doing. > 2) I've been trying to get the mysql option to work for > sb_imapfilter.py on and off for a couple months, but I am still stuck: > > First off, regardless of what iteration I try, I cannot seem > to specify any DSN other than the default. When I try to specify > a custom DSN, something happens in the code when it parses the > values so that the user field is blank, so that the result is > user '@localhost' tries to log onto mysql without success. I believe this is caused by a known bug. It's fixed in CVS for 1.1, but hasn't been backported. If you like I can do so, so that the fix is in 1.0.2. I believe you can work around it by putting a space at the start of the DSN. > Upon giving credentials to the default DSN used by the > script, I can actually get sb_imapfilter.py to train on a > sample of spam and ham successfully, but immediately afterwards, > when I try to actually run sb_imapfilter.py to filter my inbox, it > fails with the dreaded "Token seen in more spam than spam trained." > assertion error: If you have the patience, try doing this: 0. Clear the ham & spam training folders. 1. Put one (more) message in each of the ham and spam training folder. 2. Run sb_imapfilter.py -t. 3. Do a 'select * from spambayes where word="saved_state"' query against the database, and check that the values are the same as the number of messages in the folders (i.e. 1,1, then 2,2, then 3,3, ...). 4. Repeat from 1. It would help to know if it dies out quickly (like with a single message) or not. If you get to high numbers and it's still working, try adding multiple messages at a time, and see if the counts still match. I assume that sb_imapfilter always finishes without error, and isn't interrupted while training? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jan 19 01:50:25 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Jan 19 01:51:15 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] V1.01 not hanging on to settings?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Apologies for the long delay - this arrived after I left for my Christmas/New Year break and somehow I missed replying to it after I got back. You may have moved on since then of course, but in case this is still of use: > It's doing some other twitchy stuff too-- seemed to be showing me a > different list of messages for review depending on what > method I used to bring up the review page, and which browser. I'm now wondering if this is the result of a bug since discovered with 1.0.x that causes options to revert to defaults if they are changed via the configuration page, until the next time spambayes is started (at which time the changes take effect). That one is fixed in CVS, so will be fixed in 1.0.2 (hopefully out next week) and 1.1. > Are there any known issues with Firefox 1.0?? No. That's what I primarily use both to test and to manage my mother-in-law's installation, so it's unlikely that it's Firefox related. >> An easier way would be to put it somewhere that all users have access >> to, and add a global environment setting (e.g. with the System control >> panel) 'BAYESCUSTOMIZE' that pointed to it. > > Env variable of the form BAYESCUSTOMIZE=D:\PROGRAMS\SPAMBAYES\SETTINGS > > Like that?? Or does it have to specify the file too? File as well. Something like 'BAYESCUSTOMIZE=d:\programs\spambayes\settings\customize.ini' or even 'BAYESCUSTOMIZE=d:\programs\spambayes\settings\customize.ini;d:\programs\spa mbayes\settings\customize2.ini' =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jan 19 02:02:04 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Jan 19 02:02:43 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: About my Anti Phishing suggestions for Spambayes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I am sorry that I had kind of "bugged" you when I did > not get an immediate response from you about my Phishing > suggestion. I hope it didn't come out like I was complaining or trying to tell you off or anything. I was just trying to explain the delay. > I am grateful that you did respond even though you still > had 268 items on your to do list. Down to 259 now...some are hopelessly out of date, unfortunately (one reason it is better to report bugs (rather than ask questions) via the sourceforge system, since at least those are tracked and will eventually be dealt to). I wish I could find the time to really answer all the mail that needs answering, but I just don't have it available. I hate working through the backlog and finding problem-solving sessions that I never managed to complete. > Anyway, this has 2 very high spam tokens of URL:157 and URL:202 with > ham 0 and spam 5. But I noticed that all 3 of the PayPal hidden > URLs had different IP addresses. I read somewhere that the Phishers > only use a given IP address for a few days (I assume they are then shut > down by the authorities). If I understand you correctly, you are > thinking that the URL:NNN tokens will get marked as Spam, but it will > take quite some time for that to happen since there are 256 different > (maybe eventually 65536) allowed values. My understanding of the workings of IP addresses is limited, but doesn't the fact that spammers (particularly phishers, probably) change IP addresses so quickly mean that splitting the address is better? If they then switch from (eg) 130.123.238.51 to 130.123.238.141 at least some of the tokens will still be of use. I'm guessing that the addresses will be at least somewhat similar (those two are machines on my network here), which might not be true, but it's possible. > I do understand that the URL: NNN idea needs to be tested. I doubt > that I could do such a test, so I guess it will just have to be left > for some time in the far or near future for some Spambayes developer to > try. One of the main problems here is that in the early SpamBayes days there was a intense amount of testing different tokenization and classification ideas, with lots of different people (which helps rule out things that just suit a particular corpus). That sort of testing is somewhat rare these days, so it's uncommon for an idea to get testing results from more than one person (or maybe two people). If it does well with that much, then it might get added as an experimental option, but that's a big if. It wouldn't take much for me to code the simpler versions of this idea (the lookup variations might be trickier, although probably not, but they would take longer to test). But since I don't experience this problem in my own mail, I'm highly unlikely to get promising testing results. I could add in mail like the examples you gave me to my own mail, but I'd rather avoid a mixed corpus. Anyway, it is on the list in a way (you could add it to the ideas at if you like) and will probably be tried at some point. Feel free to suggest more ideas, too! =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jan 19 02:06:43 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Jan 19 02:07:22 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook plugin: Spam and MaybeSpam folders only havetoolbar button "Delete as Spam", not "Recover from Spam" button In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > The buttons do work, but they have the wrong > function for the folder they are appearing with; e.g., I > don't need the "Delete from Spam" button on the Spam folder. The Maybe Spam (unsure) folder should have both buttons, but the spam folder should only have the recover one (and no other folders should have the recover one). Does spam end up in that folder? (i.e. spambayes does understand that it's meant to be the same folder?) > I can try to delete the toolbars and recreate them and see if > that helps. I'll get back to you if the problem persists. Great :) > PS does the fact that I have my spam/ham folders named "! > Spam" and "! Maybe Spam"? Maybe the bang starting the names > is a problem? No, that shouldn't matter at all. SpamBayes tracks folders (and messages) by their internal Outlook ids, which are unrelated to their names. (In fact, if you rename a folder, as long as it stays in the same store, SpamBayes should still recognise it). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jan 19 02:49:30 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Jan 19 02:49:58 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes causes a 0x8004010f eror message In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Ran Chermesh] >>> Spambayes cuses the following error message on my >>> winxp (SP2) Outlook 2003 system: >>> >>> Moving a message failed due to an unexpected Outlook error. >>> Exception 0x8004010f (MAPI_E_NOT_FOUND): OLE error 0x8004010f [Tony Meyer] > When exactly does this happen? When you open Outlook? When > SpamBayes tries to filter? When you try and train? [Ran Chermesh] > It happens quite frequently, whenever spambayes filters my > mail. Since I've been using the application for a long time, > I've not tried it while training the program. If you change (via the Filtering tab of the Manager dialog) spam and unsure to not move but be untouched, does the problem go away? (The messages will stay in the Inbox, obviously, although they will be scored). (If so then it means that the problem is just the moving - if not, then something to do with getting hold of the message itself). >> What sort of store are you using? IMAP, Hotmail, pst, Exchange? > It's an IMAP connection. Have you tried setting the save_spam_info option to False as described in the troubleshooting guide? I know that it can help with IMAP connections, which are notoriously problematic. >> Do you have a log file for the time this occurred? > I attach my last four logs. Thanks. If save_spam_info doesn't help, then maybe we need to get Outlook to save the IMAP4 conversation, since it seems that perhaps that is where things are going wrong. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From Christopher.Woo at pepperdine.edu Wed Jan 19 06:08:05 2005 From: Christopher.Woo at pepperdine.edu (Woo, Christopher) Date: Wed Jan 19 06:08:42 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Help! Imapfilter and mysql/pickle woes Message-ID: Thanks for the reply Tony. For some reason, I am unable to send to the Spambayes email list, or at the very least, I'm not seeing my emails show up in the digests. I tried running the CVS version of sb_imapfilter.py but didn't get very far: C:\SpamBayes\scripts>sb_imapfilter.py -b Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:\SpamBayes\scripts\sb_imapfilter.py", line 103, in ? from spambayes.Version import get_current_version ImportError: cannot import name get_current_version Not quite sure what I'm doing wrong. Is there a place where I can download a complete set of the files in an archive? Chris -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 4:26 PM To: Woo, Christopher; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: Help! Imapfilter and mysql/pickle woes > 1) Using a pickle dbm with sb_imapfilter.py is regularly resulting in > a corrupt database within days of wiping it out and starting over. I > can get about a week out of the database before it corrupts and fails > with an assertion error. This is 1.0.1 sb_imapfilter, yes? It would be worth giving CVS sb_imapfilter a go - it should be vastly improved. I've tried to copy most bugfixes over to the 1.0.x branch, but that's not been possible when there are large changes. I also heard today that using Python 2.4 helps, which I suspect means there is a problem handling malformed messages. If using Python 2.4 is easy to do, then it would be worth doing. > 2) I've been trying to get the mysql option to work for > sb_imapfilter.py on and off for a couple months, but I am still stuck: > > First off, regardless of what iteration I try, I cannot seem to > specify any DSN other than the default. When I try to specify a custom > DSN, something happens in the code when it parses the values so that > the user field is blank, so that the result is user '@localhost' tries > to log onto mysql without success. I believe this is caused by a known bug. It's fixed in CVS for 1.1, but hasn't been backported. If you like I can do so, so that the fix is in 1.0.2. I believe you can work around it by putting a space at the start of the DSN. > Upon giving credentials to the default DSN used by the script, I can > actually get sb_imapfilter.py to train on a sample of spam and ham > successfully, but immediately afterwards, when I try to actually run > sb_imapfilter.py to filter my inbox, it fails with the dreaded "Token > seen in more spam than spam trained." > assertion error: If you have the patience, try doing this: 0. Clear the ham & spam training folders. 1. Put one (more) message in each of the ham and spam training folder. 2. Run sb_imapfilter.py -t. 3. Do a 'select * from spambayes where word="saved_state"' query against the database, and check that the values are the same as the number of messages in the folders (i.e. 1,1, then 2,2, then 3,3, ...). 4. Repeat from 1. It would help to know if it dies out quickly (like with a single message) or not. If you get to high numbers and it's still working, try adding multiple messages at a time, and see if the counts still match. I assume that sb_imapfilter always finishes without error, and isn't interrupted while training? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From security at keybank.com Wed Jan 19 04:27:39 2005 From: security at keybank.com (security@keybank.com) Date: Wed Jan 19 06:25:14 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Key Bank Customer Notification [Mon, 18 Jan 2005 15:14 AM +0300] Message-ID: <20050119032739.ED785C8553@mail.goldenharvestbd.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050119/3bd28976/attachment.html From m.g.ross at herts.ac.uk Wed Jan 19 11:48:04 2005 From: m.g.ross at herts.ac.uk (Matt Ross) Date: Wed Jan 19 11:48:22 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] 1.0.1 binary + Outlook 2003 SP1 run error Message-ID: Up until recently I have been using 1.0RC2 on my old PC with Outlook 2003 SP1. It's been fine but now I'm moving to a new PC. I installed Outlook and copied across all my settings and mail, as well as Spambayes settings/databases. At this point I hadn't installed Spambayes and Outlook loads fine, with the Spambayes toolbar still in place even though the buttons do nothing. Then I installed 1.0.1 and tried running it. Immediately Outlook complains that the plugin has caused a problem and asks if I want to report it to Microsoft. Next time I run Outlook it wants me to disable Spambayes. I looked at the Spambayes log but it only contains two lines added at install time [spambayes1.log]: Registered: SpamBayes.OutlookAddin Registration complete. Is this the correct log? Is there any way I can modify log verbosity in the registry or an .ini file? Since this failed attempt I have attempted uninstalling Spambayes and Outlook, cleaned up all the files and registry entries for both and retried the whole lot with no Spambayes configuration from the old PC. Same crash as before. Any other suggestions? Thanks, Matt Ross From Michael.Otto at NielsenMedia.com Wed Jan 19 15:11:12 2005 From: Michael.Otto at NielsenMedia.com (Otto, Michael) Date: Wed Jan 19 15:11:18 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook plugin: Spam and MaybeSpam folders only havetoolbar button "Delete as Spam", not "Recover from Spam" button Message-ID: <3F1BCF4F62009E4285037B3944B4782ACC770E@NMR001OLDMSX02.enterprisenet.org> Hi Tony >>The Maybe Spam (unsure) folder should have both buttons, but the spam folder should only have the recover one (and no other folders should have the recover one). Does spam end up in that folder? (i.e. spambayes does understand that it's meant to be the same folder?)<< Yes, Tony. The spam with a score of over 90% does go to the '! Spam' folder, although it only has the "Delete From Spam" button, which does nothing when I click it with a email selected. My email with spam score between 15% and 90% goes into the '! Maybe Span' folder as it should, but often I only have the "Delete from Spam" button in that folder, with the "Recover from spam" button MIA. I've tried reinstalling spambayes to no avail. When I re-installed Outlook 2003 it seemed to correct the problem temporarily, but soon the buttons reverted back to their incorrect positions. The problem seems somewhat intermittant. I did not encounter this problem prior to upgrading to WinXP and Office 2003 at work. At home, I'm on WinXP and Office 2000, and I do not think I've encountered this problem at home. I still have not shut down my outlook so I have yet to try deleting the outcmd.dat file. I'm somewhat reluctant since that will probably wipe out all my customizations of the toolbar, many of which I've forgotten that I did. But I will do it next time I need to reboot my PC. Thanks michael -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 8:07 PM To: Otto, Michael Cc: spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Outlook plugin: Spam and MaybeSpam folders only havetoolbar button "Delete as Spam", not "Recover from Spam" button > The buttons do work, but they have the wrong > function for the folder they are appearing with; e.g., I > don't need the "Delete from Spam" button on the Spam folder. The Maybe Spam (unsure) folder should have both buttons, but the spam folder should only have the recover one (and no other folders should have the recover one). Does spam end up in that folder? (i.e. spambayes does understand that it's meant to be the same folder?) > I can try to delete the toolbars and recreate them and see if > that helps. I'll get back to you if the problem persists. Great :) > PS does the fact that I have my spam/ham folders named "! > Spam" and "! Maybe Spam"? Maybe the bang starting the names > is a problem? No, that shouldn't matter at all. SpamBayes tracks folders (and messages) by their internal Outlook ids, which are unrelated to their names. (In fact, if you rename a folder, as long as it stays in the same store, SpamBayes should still recognise it). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From dar at panduit.com Wed Jan 19 17:18:31 2005 From: dar at panduit.com (DAR(Debbie Ruzich)) Date: Wed Jan 19 17:18:36 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Windows NT 4.0 Message-ID: <4EB2E82BF771D511849D0002B31B415826758DF7@corpmail.panduit.com> Can Spambayes be loaded on Windows NT 4.0 if the user is not the administrator of the PC? Also, if loaded as Administrator, can the user then use the product? I haven't had luck with either. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050119/199f4d19/attachment.html From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Wed Jan 19 21:44:14 2005 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Wed Jan 19 21:44:19 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Question (Possible feature request) Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5022C365@SPIKE.city> > > Also, would this ham move be able to handle the following senario? > > > > We would like to run Outlook rules on the standard inbox. > > > > After such, all none whitelist email will be moved by said > > rule to a secondary mail folder that will have spambayes scan > > it. The Spam and Maybe Spam will still go to their > > respective folders, however anything left behind is moved > > back into the standard inbox. > > > > Is this something that would be possible with 1.1? > > Yes - this is exactly the sort of thing that the new functionality > is designed to handle. You'd just get SpamBayes to watch/filter > the secondary mail folder, and set the ham/good mail action to > "move to inbox". > > =Tony.Meyer Can the Outlook rule recognize that it's seen the message before? If not, I think you're going to get a forwarding loop. Even if Spambayes (but not Outlook) knows that it's seen the message before, the non-whitelist ham will collect in the secondary folder, which still isn't what you want. Bob From dar at panduit.com Wed Jan 19 22:34:22 2005 From: dar at panduit.com (DAR(Debbie Ruzich)) Date: Wed Jan 19 22:34:31 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Help---Still no luck running spambayes on an NT syst em?? Message-ID: <4EB2E82BF771D511849D0002B31B415826758DFE@corpmail.panduit.com> I am having the identical problem as below. The user is not administrator of her NT 4.0 box. The install seems to complete but when I reopen Outlook, the wizard never runs and toolbars are not displayed. The tick is checked in the COM add-ins box. I could log on as administrator and load spambayes, but when the user logs back on, it doesn't work. When I load on an NT 4.0 box where the user is administrator, it works. > I'm installing spambayes 1.0a9(0.9). My system is NT 4.0 > and Outlook 2000 SR-1 Version 9. You definitely went through the entire install process? The last page you get is one offering to let you read a welcome file and has a "Finish" button on it. > OUTLOOK is on the D drive and called outlook, not outlook2000. This doesn't matter. > I found a spambayes.zip file that I extracted to same file > that the zip was in--c:\spambayes\lib. This is fine left as a zip. It may also work if the zip isn't there and the expanded files are; I'm not sure. If the zip file is still there, that's fine. > Based on previous suggestions from the list, I've done the following: > > 1. Looked in the HELP/ABOUT MICROSOFT OUTLOOK for a DISABLE > ITEM choice. There is none. There is are SECURITY INFO and > SYSTEM INFO buttons. There is also no DISABLED ITEMS in > these choices. As I said last time, this only appeared with Outlook 2002, and will not be there for Outlook 2000. Did you try looking in the COM add-ins list? Instructions, as before: """ Try going to the Tools menu, then Options, then the Other tab, then click the Advanced Options button, then the COM add-ins button, and see if SpamBayes is listed there. (If it's listed but not ticked, then tick it and OK your way out of the dialogs). """ > 2. Looked for a spambayes.log on either my C or D drive. It > is on neither. Installed Spambayes on both the C and D drive > (at different times). It is currently on C. I can't think of any reason that there wouldn't be a log file if the install completed. The file will be called spambayes1.log, and will be in whatever your temp directory is (I can't recall if NT has a shared temp folder, or one per user). There may also be other ones (spambayes2.log, and so on, up to 5, where 1 is the most recent). As you absoltely sure that it's not there? If so, then it's most likely that the install did not complete, so the problem must be very early on (although it's very odd that there were no errors). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list ( spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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A copy is installed with SpamBayes, or you can read the online version at: If you still have difficulty, please send us a copy of your log files, as described in the troubleshooting guide. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jan 19 23:39:43 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Jan 19 23:40:19 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Question (Possible feature request) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Can the Outlook rule recognize that it's seen the message > before? If not, I think you're going to get a forwarding > loop. Even if Spambayes (but not Outlook) knows that it's > seen the message before, the non-whitelist ham will collect > in the secondary folder, which still isn't what you want. It appears that Outlook (2002, at least) can - I tried this here, and the message gets moved by Outlook into the secondary folder, then filtered back by SpamBayes into the Inbox and stays there. I can't be sure that this works with other Outlook versions (or even in other situations - here everything was on an Exchange store), but it's possible at least some of the time. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From thehorsepeople at taylor-park.com Thu Jan 20 01:47:44 2005 From: thehorsepeople at taylor-park.com (Lowell Johnson) Date: Thu Jan 20 01:47:56 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Can I use spambayes on a webhosting server? 2nd message Message-ID: <000a01c4fe89$a8e87dc0$6501a8c0@wi.rr.com> (sorry, I had the fake account activated for my last e-mail, this one will reply-to correctly Hello We get our e-mail from several computers. Instead of trying to install a spam filter on each computer, I would like to get one filter on the server to check all incoming mail for the web hosted domain. It looks like one of the below methods might do the trick, but I don't know how to implement them. Any help will be appreciated. 1. Pop3proxy / sb_server 2. Imapfilter Lowell Johnson lowell@taylor-park.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050119/382cc1b5/attachment.htm From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Jan 20 02:35:16 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Jan 20 02:36:00 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Can I use spambayes on a webhosting server? 2nd message In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > We get our e-mail from several computers. Instead of > trying to install a spam filter on each computer, I > would like to get one filter on the server to check > all incoming mail for the web hosted domain. > It looks like one of the below methods might do the trick, but I don't > know how to implement them. Any help will be appreciated. > 1. Pop3proxy / sb_server > 2. Imapfilter Can you give us a bit more information about what you're wanting to do? Particularly: 1. What OS is the server running? 2. Can you install anything you like on the server? 3. Do you want a shared database (i.e. the same filtering for all users, with all spam/unsures ending up in the same place) or a different filter for each user? 4. What do you use to get mail from the server? POP3? IMAP4? What mail software is the server running? There's some information at that might be relevant, depending on the answers to the above. If you just want regular client-side filtering but want to have the filter running on the server, then just use sb_server/sb_imapfilter according to the included instructions, but change the "Allowed remote connection" options to allow access from the other machines. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Jan 20 02:57:54 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Jan 20 02:58:29 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Help! Imapfilter and mysql/pickle woes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > For some reason, I am unable to send to the > Spambayes email list, or at the very least, I'm not seeing my > emails show up in the digests. There's a "Receive your own posts to the list?" option that might be set to "No", which presumably does this. If you go to you can change that. > I tried running the CVS version of sb_imapfilter.py but > didn't get very far: > > C:\SpamBayes\scripts>sb_imapfilter.py -b > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "C:\SpamBayes\scripts\sb_imapfilter.py", line 103, in ? > from spambayes.Version import get_current_version > ImportError: cannot import name get_current_version > > Not quite sure what I'm doing wrong. That looks like you're using the CVS version of sb_imapfilter, but 1.0.x for the rest - you need to have the CVS version of everything. > Is there a place where I > can download a complete set of the files in an archive? If you have a CVS client then you can do an anonymous checkout as described on the CVS page at . If you don't, then mail me off-list and I can zip up a copy and email it to you or put it somewhere you can download. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From LJones at Lithonia.com Thu Jan 20 03:02:44 2005 From: LJones at Lithonia.com (Jones, Larry) Date: Thu Jan 20 03:03:45 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Mail forwarding Message-ID: Is there any way to have the Spam mail forwarded to a different address. My Internet provider is supposed to be collecting this data for some good purpose and I would like to be able to forward anything that hits the SPAM folder autmatically. BlooSky -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050119/55d12a61/attachment.html From TJLWBECGSGWU at spammotel.com Thu Jan 20 03:27:13 2005 From: TJLWBECGSGWU at spammotel.com (Mathew Hendry) Date: Thu Jan 20 03:28:06 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Mail forwarding References: Message-ID: "Jones, Larry" wrote in : >Is there any way to have the Spam mail forwarded to a different address. My >Internet provider is supposed to be collecting this data for some good >purpose and I would like to be able to forward anything that hits the SPAM >folder autmatically. What version of SpamBayes are you using? If it's the Outlook plugin, you could use one of the tools recommended here: http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/122.html Follow the links near the bottom of the page; most of the stuff above that is SpamCop specific, but the importance of forwarding the mail intact, with full headers, is probably just as high for whatever system your ISP is running. If you look around elsewhere on that site, there are recommendations for similar programs for other mail clients. For Outlook, I use SpamSource, which makes the process as simple as multi-selecting a bunch of spam and pressing a button to report them all at once. It then automatically moves them to another folder, so I don't report them again by mistake. It would probably be a bad idea to automate the process entirely, because you might end up reporting some non-spam. -- Mat. From ksg at telusplanet.net Thu Jan 20 05:51:08 2005 From: ksg at telusplanet.net (Ken Gordon) Date: Thu Jan 20 05:51:18 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Invalid response error Message-ID: Here is a log from a SB session just a few minutes ago. What more can I tell you? SpamBayes IMAP Filter Version 0.5 (November 2004) and engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004). Loading database /Users/kengordon/hammie.db... Done. Training Training ham folder Ham .......... 0 trained. Training spam folder Spam .. 0 trained. Training took 10.8126 seconds, 0 messages were trained Classifying ..........................................................Invalid response to uid fetch header: ('NO', ['FETCH could not complete for one or more messages']) -- Ken Gordon From monicam at accudatatech.com Thu Jan 20 16:11:03 2005 From: monicam at accudatatech.com (Monica Martino) Date: Thu Jan 20 16:27:50 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] what's going on with this? Message-ID: <000401c4ff02$42052f30$33b5a8c0@revcomss7.net> Spambayes worked fine until about a week ago...now the log looks like this: Should I reinstall? or what? Monica Monica Martino CTO/EVP Accudata Technologies 206 West McDermott Allen, TX 75013 972.390.2610 x 102 972.390.2712 fax www.accudatatech.com SpamAddin - Connecting to Outlook Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\monicaws\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\monicaws\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' Bayes database initialized with 870 spam and 17736 good messages *** - message database has 13909 messages - bayes has 18606 - something is screwey Loaded databases in 6.2242ms AntiSpam: Watching for new messages in folder Inbox AntiSpam: Watching for new messages in folder SPAM Error processing missed messages! Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\addin.py", line 671, in OnConnection File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\addin.py", line 945, in ProcessMissedMessages File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\addin.py", line 163, in ProcessMessage File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\filter.py", line 15, in filter_message File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\manager.py", line 440, in score File "e:\src\spambayes\spambayes\classifier.py", line 217, in chi2_spamprob File "e:\src\spambayes\spambayes\classifier.py", line 465, in _getclues File "e:\src\spambayes\spambayes\classifier.py", line 319, in probability AssertionError Deleting and spam training message 'Vicodin - only now Derek' - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 275, in _Invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 280, in _invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 541, in _invokeex_ File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\addin.py", line 352, in OnClick File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\train.py", line 59, in train_message File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\filter.py", line 15, in filter_message File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\manager.py", line 440, in score File "e:\src\spambayes\spambayes\classifier.py", line 217, in chi2_spamprob File "e:\src\spambayes\spambayes\classifier.py", line 465, in _getclues File "e:\src\spambayes\spambayes\classifier.py", line 316, in probability exceptions.AssertionError: Deleting and spam training message 'Vicodin - only now Derek' - already was trained as spam Deleting and spam training message 'Online education options for busy people' - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 275, in _Invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 280, in _invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 541, in _invokeex_ File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\addin.py", line 352, in OnClick File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\train.py", line 59, in train_message File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\filter.py", line 15, in filter_message File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\manager.py", line 440, in score File "e:\src\spambayes\spambayes\classifier.py", line 217, in chi2_spamprob File "e:\src\spambayes\spambayes\classifier.py", line 465, in _getclues File "e:\src\spambayes\spambayes\classifier.py", line 316, in probability exceptions.AssertionError: Deleting and spam training message 'Online education options for busy people' - already was trained as spam Deleting and spam training message 'Cheating House Wife Services' - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 275, in _Invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 280, in _invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 541, in _invokeex_ File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\addin.py", line 352, in OnClick File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\train.py", line 59, in train_message File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\filter.py", line 15, in filter_message File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\manager.py", line 440, in score File "e:\src\spambayes\spambayes\classifier.py", line 217, in chi2_spamprob File "e:\src\spambayes\spambayes\classifier.py", line 465, in _getclues File "e:\src\spambayes\spambayes\classifier.py", line 316, in probability exceptions.AssertionError: Deleting and spam training message 'Cheating House Wife Services' - already was trained as spam pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 275, in _Invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 280, in _invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 601, in _invokeex_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 541, in _invokeex_ File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\addin.py", line 203, in OnItemAdd File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\addin.py", line 163, in ProcessMessage File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\filter.py", line 15, in filter_message File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\manager.py", line 440, in score File "e:\src\spambayes\spambayes\classifier.py", line 217, in chi2_spamprob File "e:\src\spambayes\spambayes\classifier.py", line 465, in _getclues File "e:\src\spambayes\spambayes\classifier.py", line 316, in probability exceptions.AssertionError: pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 275, in _Invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 280, in _invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 601, in _invokeex_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 541, in _invokeex_ File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\addin.py", line 203, in OnItemAdd File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\addin.py", line 163, in ProcessMessage File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\filter.py", line 15, in filter_message File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\manager.py", line 440, in score File "e:\src\spambayes\spambayes\classifier.py", line 217, in chi2_spamprob File "e:\src\spambayes\spambayes\classifier.py", line 465, in _getclues File "e:\src\spambayes\spambayes\classifier.py", line 316, in probability exceptions.AssertionError: Deleting and spam training message 'The right moment is the ready moment! Cialis!' - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 275, in _Invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 280, in _invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 541, in _invokeex_ File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\addin.py", line 352, in OnClick File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\train.py", line 53, in train_message File "E:\src\python-cvs\lib\bsddb\__init__.py", line 90, in __setitem__ bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') Deleting and spam training message 'The right moment is the ready moment! Cialis!' - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 275, in _Invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 280, in _invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 541, in _invokeex_ File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\addin.py", line 352, in OnClick File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\train.py", line 53, in train_message File "E:\src\python-cvs\lib\bsddb\__init__.py", line 90, in __setitem__ bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') Deleting and spam training message 'Heyllooo' - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 275, in _Invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 280, in _invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 541, in _invokeex_ File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\addin.py", line 352, in OnClick File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\train.py", line 53, in train_message File "E:\src\python-cvs\lib\bsddb\__init__.py", line 90, in __setitem__ bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') Deleting and spam training message 'Heyllooo' - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 275, in _Invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 280, in _invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 541, in _invokeex_ File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\addin.py", line 352, in OnClick File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\train.py", line 53, in train_message File "E:\src\python-cvs\lib\bsddb\__init__.py", line 90, in __setitem__ bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') Deleting and spam training message 'Heyllooo' - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 275, in _Invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 280, in _invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 541, in _invokeex_ File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\addin.py", line 352, in OnClick File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\train.py", line 53, in train_message File "E:\src\python-cvs\lib\bsddb\__init__.py", line 90, in __setitem__ bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') Deleting and spam training message 'Heyllooo' - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 275, in _Invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 280, in _invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 541, in _invokeex_ File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\addin.py", line 352, in OnClick File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\train.py", line 53, in train_message File "E:\src\python-cvs\lib\bsddb\__init__.py", line 90, in __setitem__ bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') Deleting and spam training message 'Heyllooo' - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 275, in _Invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 280, in _invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 541, in _invokeex_ File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\addin.py", line 352, in OnClick File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\train.py", line 53, in train_message File "E:\src\python-cvs\lib\bsddb\__init__.py", line 90, in __setitem__ bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') Deleting and spam training message 'Heyllooo' - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 275, in _Invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 280, in _invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 541, in _invokeex_ File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\addin.py", line 352, in OnClick File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\train.py", line 53, in train_message File "E:\src\python-cvs\lib\bsddb\__init__.py", line 90, in __setitem__ bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') Deleting and spam training message 'Heyllooo' - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 275, in _Invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 280, in _invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 541, in _invokeex_ File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\addin.py", line 352, in OnClick File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\train.py", line 53, in train_message File "E:\src\python-cvs\lib\bsddb\__init__.py", line 90, in __setitem__ bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') Deleting and spam training message 'Heyllooo' - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 275, in _Invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 280, in _invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 541, in _invokeex_ File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\addin.py", line 352, in OnClick File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\train.py", line 53, in train_message File "E:\src\python-cvs\lib\bsddb\__init__.py", line 90, in __setitem__ bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') Deleting and spam training message 'Heyllooo' - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 275, in _Invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 280, in _invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 541, in _invokeex_ File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\addin.py", line 352, in OnClick File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\train.py", line 53, in train_message File "E:\src\python-cvs\lib\bsddb\__init__.py", line 90, in __setitem__ bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') Deleting and spam training message 'Heyllooo' - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 275, in _Invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 280, in _invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 541, in _invokeex_ File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\addin.py", line 352, in OnClick File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\train.py", line 53, in train_message File "E:\src\python-cvs\lib\bsddb\__init__.py", line 90, in __setitem__ bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') Deleting and spam training message 'Heyllooo' - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 275, in _Invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 280, in _invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 541, in _invokeex_ File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\addin.py", line 352, in OnClick File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\train.py", line 53, in train_message File "E:\src\python-cvs\lib\bsddb\__init__.py", line 90, in __setitem__ bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') Deleting and spam training message 'Heyllooo' - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 275, in _Invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 280, in _invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 541, in _invokeex_ File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\addin.py", line 352, in OnClick File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\train.py", line 53, in train_message File "E:\src\python-cvs\lib\bsddb\__init__.py", line 90, in __setitem__ bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') Deleting and spam training message 'Heyllooo' - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 275, in _Invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 280, in _invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 541, in _invokeex_ File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\addin.py", line 352, in OnClick File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\train.py", line 53, in train_message File "E:\src\python-cvs\lib\bsddb\__init__.py", line 90, in __setitem__ bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') Deleting and spam training message 'Heyllooo' - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 275, in _Invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 280, in _invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 541, in _invokeex_ File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\addin.py", line 352, in OnClick File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\train.py", line 53, in train_message File "E:\src\python-cvs\lib\bsddb\__init__.py", line 90, in __setitem__ bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') E:\src\python-cvs\lib\fcntl.py:7: DeprecationWarning: the FCNTL module is deprecated; please use fcntl pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 275, in _Invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 280, in _invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 541, in _invokeex_ File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\addin.py", line 177, in OnClick File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\addin.py", line 242, in ShowClues File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\manager.py", line 440, in score File "e:\src\spambayes\spambayes\classifier.py", line 217, in chi2_spamprob File "e:\src\spambayes\spambayes\classifier.py", line 465, in _getclues File "e:\src\spambayes\spambayes\classifier.py", line 316, in probability exceptions.AssertionError: Exception in thread Thread-1: Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\src\python-cvs\lib\threading.py", line 411, in __bootstrap File "E:\src\python-cvs\lib\threading.py", line 399, in run File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\dialogs\AsyncDialog.py", line 115, in thread_target File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\dialogs\TrainingDialog.py", line 133, in _DoProcess File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\train.py", line 103, in trainer File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\manager.py", line 377, in InitNewBayes File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\manager.py", line 133, in close_mdb File "E:\src\python-cvs\lib\bsddb\__init__.py", line 101, in close DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') Exception in thread Thread-2: Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\src\python-cvs\lib\threading.py", line 411, in __bootstrap File "E:\src\python-cvs\lib\threading.py", line 399, in run File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\dialogs\AsyncDialog.py", line 115, in thread_target File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\dialogs\TrainingDialog.py", line 133, in _DoProcess File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\train.py", line 103, in trainer File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\manager.py", line 379, in InitNewBayes File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\manager.py", line 126, in new_mdb OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: u'C:\\Documents and Settings\\monicaws\\Application Data\\SpamBayes\\default_message_database.db' Exception in thread Thread-3: Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\src\python-cvs\lib\threading.py", line 411, in __bootstrap File "E:\src\python-cvs\lib\threading.py", line 399, in run File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\dialogs\AsyncDialog.py", line 115, in thread_target File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\dialogs\TrainingDialog.py", line 133, in _DoProcess File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\train.py", line 103, in trainer File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\manager.py", line 379, in InitNewBayes File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\manager.py", line 126, in new_mdb OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: u'C:\\Documents and Settings\\monicaws\\Application Data\\SpamBayes\\default_message_database.db' Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\dialogs\FolderSelector.py", line 318, in OnInitDialog File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\dialogs\FolderSelector.py", line 355, in _UpdateStatus File "E:\src\Installer\iu.py", line 296, in importHook ImportError: No module named timer win32ui: OnInitDialog() virtual handler (>) raised an exception Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\dialogs\FolderSelector.py", line 391, in OnTreeItemSelChanged File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\dialogs\FolderSelector.py", line 355, in _UpdateStatus File "E:\src\Installer\iu.py", line 296, in importHook ImportError: No module named timer win32ui: Exception in OnNotify() handler warning: raising a string exception is deprecated Deleting and spam training message 'Heyllooo' - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 275, in _Invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 280, in _invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 541, in _invokeex_ File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\addin.py", line 352, in OnClick File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\train.py", line 38, in train_message File "E:\src\python-cvs\lib\bsddb\__init__.py", line 111, in has_key File "E:\src\python-cvs\lib\bsddb\__init__.py", line 75, in _checkOpen bsddb._db.DBError: BSDDB object has already been closed Deleting and spam training message 'Heyllooo' - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 275, in _Invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 280, in _invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 541, in _invokeex_ File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\addin.py", line 352, in OnClick File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\train.py", line 38, in train_message File "E:\src\python-cvs\lib\bsddb\__init__.py", line 111, in has_key File "E:\src\python-cvs\lib\bsddb\__init__.py", line 75, in _checkOpen bsddb._db.DBError: BSDDB object has already been closed Deleting and spam training message 'Heyllooo' - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 275, in _Invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 280, in _invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 541, in _invokeex_ File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\addin.py", line 352, in OnClick File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\train.py", line 38, in train_message File "E:\src\python-cvs\lib\bsddb\__init__.py", line 111, in has_key File "E:\src\python-cvs\lib\bsddb\__init__.py", line 75, in _checkOpen bsddb._db.DBError: BSDDB object has already been closed Deleting and spam training message 'Heyllooo' - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 275, in _Invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 280, in _invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 541, in _invokeex_ File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\addin.py", line 352, in OnClick File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\train.py", line 38, in train_message File "E:\src\python-cvs\lib\bsddb\__init__.py", line 111, in has_key File "E:\src\python-cvs\lib\bsddb\__init__.py", line 75, in _checkOpen bsddb._db.DBError: BSDDB object has already been closed Deleting and spam training message 'Heyllooo' - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 275, in _Invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 280, in _invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 541, in _invokeex_ File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\addin.py", line 352, in OnClick File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\train.py", line 38, in train_message File "E:\src\python-cvs\lib\bsddb\__init__.py", line 111, in has_key File "E:\src\python-cvs\lib\bsddb\__init__.py", line 75, in _checkOpen bsddb._db.DBError: BSDDB object has already been closed Deleting and spam training message 'Heyllooo' - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 275, in _Invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 280, in _invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 541, in _invokeex_ File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\addin.py", line 352, in OnClick File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\train.py", line 38, in train_message File "E:\src\python-cvs\lib\bsddb\__init__.py", line 111, in has_key File "E:\src\python-cvs\lib\bsddb\__init__.py", line 75, in _checkOpen bsddb._db.DBError: BSDDB object has already been closed Deleting and spam training message 'Heyllooo' - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 275, in _Invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 280, in _invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 541, in _invokeex_ File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\addin.py", line 352, in OnClick File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\train.py", line 38, in train_message File "E:\src\python-cvs\lib\bsddb\__init__.py", line 111, in has_key File "E:\src\python-cvs\lib\bsddb\__init__.py", line 75, in _checkOpen bsddb._db.DBError: BSDDB object has already been closed Deleting and spam training message 'Heyllooo' - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 275, in _Invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 280, in _invoke_ File "E:\src\pythonex\com\win32com\server\policy.py", line 541, in _invokeex_ File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\addin.py", line 352, in OnClick File "E:\src\spambayes\Outlook2000\train.py", line 38, in train_message File "E:\src\python-cvs\lib\bsddb\__init__.py", line 111, in has_key File "E:\src\python-cvs\lib\bsddb\__init__.py", line 75, in _checkOpen bsddb._db.DBError: BSDDB object has already been closed Message 'They're waiting to meet you' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050120/e1a5b2e6/attachment-0001.htm From helpdesk at fuller.edu Thu Jan 20 17:55:04 2005 From: helpdesk at fuller.edu (Help Desk) Date: Thu Jan 20 17:54:56 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] junk suspects folder disapears Message-ID: Hello wonderful Spambayes peeps, I've got spambayes 1.0 installed on an XP pro (SP1) machine with office 2000. My problem is that the 'junk suspects' folder disapears every so often. I've re-installed it a number of times and it continues to happen. Have you heard of this yet? Any ideas as to why this is happening or how to prevent this? Thanks for any light you can shed on this mystery. Matt Matt Vogt MIS Help Desk Computer Support Specialist Fuller Theological Seminary http://gethelp.fuller.edu helpdesk@fuller.edu 626-584-5675 From skip at pobox.com Thu Jan 20 17:36:01 2005 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Thu Jan 20 18:00:14 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] what's going on with this? In-Reply-To: <000401c4ff02$42052f30$33b5a8c0@revcomss7.net> References: <000401c4ff02$42052f30$33b5a8c0@revcomss7.net> Message-ID: <16879.56817.205785.337265@montanaro.dyndns.org> Monica> Spambayes worked fine until about a week ago...now the log looks Monica> like this: Should I reinstall? or what? ... Monica> bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: ... Try deleting your spam/ham database and retraining from scratch. It's corrupt. You may find helpful details in these FAQ items: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#my-database-keeps-getting-corrupted http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#i-get-a-dbrunrecoveryerror-message Skip From Leila at carolina.rr.com Thu Jan 20 21:09:20 2005 From: Leila at carolina.rr.com (Leila Tissue) Date: Thu Jan 20 21:09:28 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] question Message-ID: <004901c4ff2b$ede08f10$4b804a18@TISSUE> I believe I have set up spambayes with my outlook express correctly. I cannot train spambayes. The following is the instruction I am stuck on ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you double-click the tray icon a browser window will open.... For each message listed, you need to choose to either discard (don't train on this message), defer (leave training on this message until later), or train (as either good - ham), or bad - spam). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is the "tray" icon the Inbox word in Outlook? I have double-clicked on everything and nothing happens. Please help ... maybe I am not configured correctly. Thanks, Leila -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050120/d6a1787b/attachment.htm From chris at modctek.com Thu Jan 20 21:35:59 2005 From: chris at modctek.com (Chris Woo) Date: Thu Jan 20 21:36:07 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Help! Imapfilter and mysql/pickle woes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: OK, I figured out the version error (I forgot to run the setup.py install to get the libraries installed in Python), but now I get: File "c:\spambayes\scripts\sb_imapfilter.py", line 367, in _extract_fetch_data raise BadIMAPResponseError("FETCH response", response) __main__.BadIMAPResponseError: The command 'FETCH response' failed to give an OK response. (' UID 2992)',) And that one stumped me good. I tried switching the database method, but same result either method. I fiddled with some of the mailing list settings, but even if I had set the list to not send me my own posts, wouldn't they show up in the digest? Let's see if my changes shakes the mailing list problem loose. CW -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 5:58 PM To: Woo, Christopher; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: Help! Imapfilter and mysql/pickle woes > For some reason, I am unable to send to the Spambayes email list, or > at the very least, I'm not seeing my emails show up in the digests. There's a "Receive your own posts to the list?" option that might be set to "No", which presumably does this. If you go to you can change that. > I tried running the CVS version of sb_imapfilter.py but didn't get > very far: > > C:\SpamBayes\scripts>sb_imapfilter.py -b Traceback (most recent call > last): > File "C:\SpamBayes\scripts\sb_imapfilter.py", line 103, in ? > from spambayes.Version import get_current_version > ImportError: cannot import name get_current_version > > Not quite sure what I'm doing wrong. That looks like you're using the CVS version of sb_imapfilter, but 1.0.x for the rest - you need to have the CVS version of everything. > Is there a place where I > can download a complete set of the files in an archive? If you have a CVS client then you can do an anonymous checkout as described on the CVS page at . If you don't, then mail me off-list and I can zip up a copy and email it to you or put it somewhere you can download. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From north-of-eden at rogers.com Thu Jan 20 21:56:50 2005 From: north-of-eden at rogers.com (Gilles Tessier) Date: Thu Jan 20 21:52:07 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Help Message-ID: If you need help translating from English to French or vice-versa, I'm fluent in languages. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050120/1dd7c24a/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Jan 20 22:43:34 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Jan 20 22:44:11 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [...] > Is the "tray" icon the Inbox word in Outlook? The Windows "tray" is the collection of little icons next to the clock in the toolbar (typically the far right bottom of your screen). There will be a little envelope icon there when SpamBayes is running, and that is the icon that the instructions are referring to. [...] > maybe I am not configured correctly. FAQ 4.21 might help: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From penmar8 at cox.net Thu Jan 20 22:57:26 2005 From: penmar8 at cox.net (Jerry Goldstine) Date: Thu Jan 20 22:57:09 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] eatting up good messages Message-ID: <000901c4ff3b$078b9cc0$84e1e344@nonepoo31asaia> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050120/79337d21/attachment.htm From inovic at smartchat.net.au Fri Jan 21 14:18:37 2005 From: inovic at smartchat.net.au (igor novic) Date: Fri Jan 21 14:18:45 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: <000a01c4ffbb$b86af100$f0f7443d@GIGOBOX> Hi, I am using Outlook Express 6 with Windows XP. I installed SpamBayes but nothing really happened when I run Outlook. . Then I tried to make the Spam column visible in Outlook. I followed your instructions from "About SpamBayes" html document. In the section Viewing and Using the Spam Score Field in first bulletin, when I right click on the requested filed the "context" menu does not pop-up. Hence, I can not make the SpamBayes field visible. Do you know what is the problem? Regards -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050121/88d241d3/attachment.htm From kenny.pitt at gmail.com Fri Jan 21 20:15:14 2005 From: kenny.pitt at gmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Fri Jan 21 20:15:18 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <000a01c4ffbb$b86af100$f0f7443d@GIGOBOX> Message-ID: <41f154c3.2bd69615.676f.00fa@smtp.gmail.com> You're describing features of the Outlook add-in. The problem is that Outlook Express is not a version of Outlook despite the similar name. There is a POP3 Proxy and an IMAP filter version of SpamBayes that can be used with Outlook Express, but the user interface is through your Web browser. The POP3 Proxy application is available in the same binary installer as the Outlook add-in, but if you use IMAP then you would need to run the IMAP filter from source. See FAQ 2.1: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#does-spambayes-work-with-outlook-e xpress -- Kenny Pitt _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of igor novic Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 8:19 AM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Hi, I am using Outlook Express 6 with Windows XP. I installed SpamBayes but nothing really happened when I run Outlook. . Then I tried to make the Spam column visible in Outlook. I followed your instructions from "About SpamBayes" html document. In the section Viewing and Using the Spam Score Field in first bulletin, when I right click on the requested filed the "context" menu does not pop-up. Hence, I can not make the SpamBayes field visible. Do you know what is the problem? Regards -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050121/57133fce/attachment.html From LynnieBWright at comcast.net Sat Jan 22 04:59:23 2005 From: LynnieBWright at comcast.net (Comcast Mail) Date: Sat Jan 22 05:13:48 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Thank you for sending us your question for Jennifer. Message-ID: <000501c50036$c31c1a40$a5b13e18@DAVID> Hi ! I don't have a question, but I want you to please send Jennifer my love and prayers. I am sad about her sad news but I pray that God will help to bring them back together and bring happiness their way now. I can't get it off my mind I feel so sad like I know it is so painful. I hope this separation is only temporary. They are so beautiful together. Thank you Lynne Wright -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050121/4993ac5d/attachment.html From jek5311 at gmail.com Sat Jan 22 05:32:26 2005 From: jek5311 at gmail.com (Jane Pearson) Date: Sat Jan 22 05:32:29 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes with Thunderbird?? Message-ID: I started using Spambayes last year with Outlook (installed with the Outlook plugin). Have been extremely pleased with it. Within days, no false spam, very few suspect (which usually are spam). \However, I have recently switched to Thunderbird (and Firefox). So far I'm not thrilled with TB, one thing disappointing is their "spam filter" which is lousy. (Also poor spell-check) I thought maybe I could use it with SpamBayes, which I know works. So downloaded again and iinstalled for pop3 account (My home service is earthlink). I don't see a way to train SpamBayes this time. (I did so on a folder full of junk in Outlook, and it worked great!) On the info page it has something about a mbox or something for OE, but I have no idea if I shoudl have this, is it a file and where might it be?? Also, with Outlook, I had SpamBayes icons on the toolbar and it added Spam and Suspect folders. None turned up in Thunderbird. Is there somewhere I shoulld be doing more to set this up, or is this just incompatible with Thnderbird?? Thanks much for any assistance/advice. J From efariss at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 22 20:08:07 2005 From: efariss at sbcglobal.net (Eddie Fariss) Date: Sat Jan 22 20:06:24 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] not recognizing spam as taught Message-ID: The program seems to inconsistently decide what messages are spam. One day the program will move a message with "viagra" in the subject into the spam folder and the next day it leaves it in the inbox. Today the program left a spam message with "viagra" in both the "from" and the "subject," and with a "combined score" of 100%, in my inbox instead of moving it to the spam box. 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Sender = spambayes-bounces@python.org Recipient(s) = spambayes@python.org Subject = [Spambayes] not recognizing spam as taught Scanning time = 1/22/2005 2:07:52 PM Action on file blocking: The attachment ATT225141.txt matches the file blocking settings. ScanMail has Quarantined it. The attachment was quarantined to C:\Program Files\Trend\Smex\Alert\ATT22514141f2a488245.txt_. Warning to Recipient: Action taken by attachment blocking. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jan 24 04:21:16 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jan 24 04:21:22 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes with Thunderbird?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > However, I have recently switched to Thunderbird (and Firefox). [...] > I thought maybe I could use it with SpamBayes, which I know works. [...] > I don't see a way to train SpamBayes this time. Assuming you used the same installer, you should have a SpamBayes tray icon (the tray is the collection of icons next to the clock in the taskbar). If you double-click that (or right-click and select "Review Messages...") then the review page will open up, from where you do your training. > On the info page it has something about a mbox or something for OE, > but I have no idea if I shoudl have this, is it a file and where > might it be?? You can use that box to do training in bulk if you like (from either OE dbx files or mbox files), but it's not needed or recommended). > Also, with Outlook, I had SpamBayes icons on the toolbar and it added > Spam and Suspect folders. None turned up in Thunderbird. [...] > Is there somewhere I shoulld be doing more to set this up, or is this > just incompatible with Thnderbird?? There isn't a plug-in for Thunderbird, so you don't get the same integrated experience. There aren't any SpamBayes icons in Thunderbird, for example, and you'll have to create the new folders you want yourself. However, the results are the same, and the web interface should be simple to use (many people do use it). If you have any problems or suggestions, please let us know! =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jan 24 04:21:18 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jan 24 04:21:24 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] junk suspects folder disapears In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I've got spambayes 1.0 installed on an XP pro (SP1) machine > with office 2000. My problem is that the 'junk suspects' folder > disapears every so often. I've re-installed it a number of times > and it continues to happen. Have you heard of this yet? Any ideas > as to why this is happening or how to prevent this? Thanks for > any light you can shed on this mystery. I'm sure this isn't the answer you want, but every case that we've seen of this has come down to user error (i.e. the user has accidentally deleted the folder themselves). This is a remarkably easy thing to do in Outlook, however - I myself end up moving folders by mistake (usually there's a lag and so a mouse click starts in the wrong place) every so often. If you really can trace it to SpamBayes, we'd love to know :) (We don't delete anything, including folders, so it's pretty unlikely). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jan 24 04:21:16 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jan 24 04:21:25 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] not recognizing spam as taught In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > The program seems to inconsistently decide what messages > are spam. [...] > Today the program left a spam message with "viagra" in > both the "from" and the "subject," and with a "combined score" > of 100%, in my inbox instead of moving it to the spam box. > The program should have enough training by now to AT LEAST > recognize that viagra messages are spam. What's up? A score of 100% is as high as possible - SpamBayes cannot be more sure that this message is spam. The problem you are having is not recognising that mail is spam, but that spam is not moving to the spam folder. Check that your settings in the Filtering tab of the Manager dialog are correct (particularly that a valid folder is selected). If that doesn't help, please send us a copy of your most recent log files (see the troubleshooting guide for information about how to find those). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From Johan.Geertsma at connection1.nl Mon Jan 24 10:20:08 2005 From: Johan.Geertsma at connection1.nl (Johan Geertsma) Date: Mon Jan 24 10:22:14 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Suggestion Message-ID: <634581F996DDD411902800805FE6531722F16F@server2.connection1.nl> HI, Thank you very very very much for this GREAT and GOOD product. Only little training needed and now all my spam is filtered. I have a suggestion. Our situation: Several different users on the same machine. I found the solution for this... Can't you make an option during installation to make it available to the current user or all users? Many programs ask this..... But my other suggestion is this: Make the data folder adjustable. Why? So I point it to a network drive and in this way all users have the same DB. This would be really great. Not only for more than one user, but also the user can put the files on an other local drive. I for example have all my data on my D drive. I never lost my data if I have to reinstall windows. Please consider this option. Kind Regards, Johan Geertsma From Johan.Geertsma at connection1.nl Mon Jan 24 10:25:59 2005 From: Johan.Geertsma at connection1.nl (Johan Geertsma) Date: Mon Jan 24 10:28:03 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Suggestion Message-ID: <634581F996DDD411902800805FE6531722F170@server2.connection1.nl> HI, Thank you very very very much for this GREAT and GOOD product. Only little training needed and now all my spam is filtered. I have a suggestion. Our situation: Several different users on the same machine. I found the solution for this... Can't you make an option during installation to make it available to the current user or all users? Many programs ask this..... But my other suggestion is this: Make the data folder adjustable. Why? So I point it to a network drive and in this way all users have the same DB. This would be really great. Not only for more than one user, but also the user can put the files on an other local drive. I for example have all my data on my D drive. I never lost my data if I have to reinstall windows. Please consider this option. Kind Regards, Johan Geertsma From auto-response at customercare.expedia.com Mon Jan 24 15:28:27 2005 From: auto-response at customercare.expedia.com (Expedia) Date: Mon Jan 24 15:55:17 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Mail Delivery (failure travel@customercare.expedia.com) Message-ID: <41F5060B.000948.02756@DNWBACRM03.expeso.com> Dear Expedia customer, Thank you for contacting us. 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Received message is available at: From paredes at ulrichkitchens.com Mon Jan 24 16:52:35 2005 From: paredes at ulrichkitchens.com (Rafael Paredes) Date: Mon Jan 24 16:52:31 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Configure a Small B. Server windows2000 Message-ID: <96FE89C0A3A50249A243A4F125D3ACE7F6B9@server2600.ulrich.local> Hello there. Directly to the point I know you must get a lot of e-mails. How do I configure this program to check all e-mails that come to a SBS Windows2000? (Exchange server?) I want to check what comes in and what goes out this server. Please send any links or explanations of how to configure software. Thank you I have Last SpamBayes software. Windows 2000 SBS (with exchange server) NO logs yet of any traced mail. Server Name: Server2600 Domain: Ulrichkitchens.com SMTP Port: 25 Please advice. Thank you! Rafael Paredes Network Admin. & CAD Operator -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This > would be really great. > Not only for more than one user, but also the user can put the files > on an other local drive. > I for example have all my data on my D drive. I never lost my data if > I have to reinstall windows. There is no installer or GUI option, but you can change the data directory by editing the config file. See FAQ 3.14: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#how-can-i-change-the-directory-tha t-spambayes-stores-my-data-in However, it is not likely to be a good idea to use this option to share the database between users. First, many of the clues that SpamBayes uses to classify messages are specific to the individual receiver. It is also based on the idea of learning what each user considers to be spam, which may not be the same for all of your users. You will likely have reduced accuracy with a shared database. Second, SpamBayes is not designed with the idea that multiple users will be updating the training database at the same time. It does not implement the necessary mechanisms to prevent consistency problems and corruption in the database if it is updated by more than one user. -- Kenny Pitt From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Jan 25 00:28:37 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Jan 25 00:28:46 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Configure a Small B. Server windows2000 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > How do I configure this program to check all e-mails > that come to a SBS Windows2000? (Exchange server?) > > I want to check what comes in and what goes out this server. SpamBayes is really designed as a client-side filter, not server-side, which I believe is what you are asking for. However, various people have set up SpamBayes server-side; the information that we have (all provided by people who have done so) is collected at . That's the closest we have to instructions - feel free to ask questions here if you like (although it's not certain that anyone will know the answers for something like this). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From hanshenderson at csloxinfo.com Tue Jan 25 06:49:41 2005 From: hanshenderson at csloxinfo.com (Hans Henderson) Date: Tue Jan 25 07:20:48 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP problem Message-ID: <242F52CF80AF84541CC7CC4D@hans.main.shrewsbury.ac.th> SpamBayes IMAP Filter Version 0.5 (November 2004) and engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004) Local mailhost is Mercury v4.01a, front-end is Mulberry, OS is XP SP2. Filtering's fine except that both spam and ham are left in the INBOX. I can tell which is which by opening up my SUSPECT and UNSURE folders side-by-side with my INBOX, but with 300+ spam per day this is a bit tedious Sometimes it does delete the spam from the INBOX, but never when there's a big batch (first thing in the morning). When there's only a dozen or so incoming, it may work properly, but only sometimes. I've looked through the troubleshooting pages, but don't see anything specifically about the IMAP filter, and don't know where to find my logs, if there are any. I tried re-installing from scratch, deleted both my hammie and message databases, but that didn't help. Thanks in advance for any suggestions you might have. . . From dolphin at menara.ma Tue Jan 25 09:47:37 2005 From: dolphin at menara.ma (dolphin) Date: Tue Jan 25 09:47:41 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] download Message-ID: <002a01c502ba$85908220$7bffc051@useri0ve12swsn> Hello, How could I download "SPAMBAYES" to get rid of SPAM ? Thanks so much. 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You can simply stop SpamBayes, remove the old database, and start SpamBayes up again to fix this This is coming up every time i am trying to enter the configuration. 500 Server error Traceback (most recent call last): File "spambayes\Dibbler.pyc", line 461, in found_terminator File "spambayes\UserInterface.pyc", line 627, in onConfig File "spambayes\UserInterface.pyc", line 641, in _buildConfigPage File "spambayes\PyMeldLite.pyc", line 738, in __setattr__ File "spambayes\PyMeldLite.pyc", line 654, in _replaceNodeContent File "spambayes\PyMeldLite.pyc", line 640, in _nodeListFromSource File "spambayes\PyMeldLite.pyc", line 574, in _generateTree File "spambayes\PyMeldLite.pyc", line 499, in feed ExpatError: not well-formed (invalid token): line 1, column 36 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050125/8ffdcda5/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Jan 25 22:14:58 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Jan 25 22:15:05 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] 500 Server error??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > i am having a problem with this 500server error. I can?t > figure out what to do. Spambayes worked before i reinstalled > XP. At a guess, you're now using a different username, and it's got either '>', '<' or '&' in it - would that be right? If so, then this is a known bug with 1.0.1 and will be fixed in 1.0.2. If all goes well, then 1.0.2 will be out tomorrow, so you could just wait until then and install it and the problem should be fixed. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Jan 25 23:53:46 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Jan 25 23:53:52 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Moving spam to the junk folder In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Since I've upgraded to Outlook 2003 and the newest > Spam Bayes, when I send an email to the Junk folder > by highlighting the email and clicking on "Remove as spam", > the email stays in the Inbox until I go to Tasks or some > other folder or to another program. Is there someplace > I need to check that I want the email moved to Junk immediately? Actually, the move is carried out immediately, but Outlook doesn't update the display. It's quite common for people to experience this with both Outlook 2002 and 2003 (always with Exchange, I think). Annoyingly, we don't know what causes this (and it didn't use to happen, and doesn't appear to be caused by something we are doing differently). We are looking into it, though, so hopefully will find a solution soon, and will include that in an upcoming release. For the moment, this doesn't actually cause any problems - your Outlook display is just slightly out of date, which quickly resolves itself. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jan 26 00:00:30 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Jan 26 00:00:51 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Configure a Small B. Server windows2000 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I read the documents you sent me but they did not make a lot > of sense to me. I know computers but not that much. > I was thinking that if I have to install it in clients I will > do Client-side filtering really does have a lot to recommend it. Particularly, each user gets to decide what is and is not spam for them. (An ideal situation is probably to have a server-side filter that cuts out 'easy' spam, and has a zero false-positive rate, combined with effective client-side filtering. It really depends on how much spam comes in and how much it costs you to deal with it client-side). If you're not familiar with the server side mail system that you're using, though, then you're probably better off not mucking about with it. > but from the setup page I get after clicking in envelop next > to clock I don't know what to setup. What email client are you using? On the SpamBayes configuration page, you just need to enter in the POP3 server details in the top two boxes. If you're using Outlook Express, then you can use the instructions here: Other mail clients are similar (apart from Outlook, which has the plug-in), but shouldn't need the "Notate To" option, and the settings will be in different places in the mail client. > I see in the website instruction to change a program or > program lines. Where is this? And how do I know what changes > to make to that program? You shouldn't need to make any changes to the SpamBayes scripts themselves, unless you need to make some sort of customisation (this is highly unlikely). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jan 26 00:04:10 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Jan 26 00:04:14 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Suggestion In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Kenny answered the second part of this, but for the first: > I have a suggestion. Our situation: Several different users > on the same machine. I found the solution for this... > Can't you make an option during installation to make it > available to the current user or all users? I've opened a feature request tracker for this (feature requests are much more likely to be remembered and added if they are added via the sourceforge system): [ 1109452 ] Make install for all users an option in installer I don't see any reason why this couldn't be added for 1.1, so will try and make that the case. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From RMezzone at PJSolomon.com Wed Jan 26 00:08:06 2005 From: RMezzone at PJSolomon.com (Robert Mezzone) Date: Wed Jan 26 00:08:09 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Moving spam to the junk folder Message-ID: This is a known issue when certain versions of Outlook and Exchange are used together. I can check the version numbers if you are interested. I bellieve it's newer versions of Outlook with older versions of Exchange, i.e. Outlook 2003 and Exchange 5.5 exhibit this behavior. You have to switch folders in order for the folder contents to refresh. The message is there, it's just not being displayed. hth. Robert -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org To: 'Louise S. Crosby' ; spambayes@python.org Sent: Tue Jan 25 17:53:46 2005 Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Moving spam to the junk folder > Since I've upgraded to Outlook 2003 and the newest > Spam Bayes, when I send an email to the Junk folder > by highlighting the email and clicking on "Remove as spam", > the email stays in the Inbox until I go to Tasks or some > other folder or to another program. Is there someplace > I need to check that I want the email moved to Junk immediately? Actually, the move is carried out immediately, but Outlook doesn't update the display. It's quite common for people to experience this with both Outlook 2002 and 2003 (always with Exchange, I think). Annoyingly, we don't know what causes this (and it didn't use to happen, and doesn't appear to be caused by something we are doing differently). We are looking into it, though, so hopefully will find a solution soon, and will include that in an upcoming release. For the moment, this doesn't actually cause any problems - your Outlook display is just slightly out of date, which quickly resolves itself. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050125/28e55fcb/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jan 26 00:20:22 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Jan 26 00:20:37 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Moving spam to the junk folder In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Robert Mezzone] > This is a known issue when certain versions of Outlook > and Exchange are used together. I can check the version > numbers if you are interested. I definitely am. This comes up _really_ often. It would be good to have a FAQ that listed specific version numbers. When you say "known issue", do you mean just with SpamBayes, or is this wider than that? I don't suppose you know of a Microsoft kb article about it? (I've looked in the past, but never managed to find anything, but then I'm not great at searching the Microsoft kb). > I believe it's newer versions of Outlook with older > versions of Exchange, i.e. Outlook 2003 and Exchange > 5.5 exhibit this behavior. I see it with Outlook 2002 SP2 (is there any way a regular user can check their Exchange version?). =Tony.Meyer From Harold.Vandeventer at dpra.com Wed Jan 26 00:19:43 2005 From: Harold.Vandeventer at dpra.com (Harold Vandeventer) Date: Wed Jan 26 00:21:34 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Moving spam to the junk folder Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 1481 bytes Desc: image002.jpg Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050125/a756cd24/attachment-0001.jpe From Administrator at bag.python.org Wed Jan 26 00:23:53 2005 From: Administrator at bag.python.org (Administrator@bag.python.org) Date: Wed Jan 26 00:23:25 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] [MailServer Notification]To Recipient file blocking settings matched and action taken. Message-ID: <03bb01c50334$ef18a680$8f9ac7cf@Cattertonprinting.com> ScanMail for Microsoft Exchange has blocked an attachment. Sender = spambayes-bounces@python.org Recipient(s) = Robert Mezzone; tameyer@ihug.co.nz; LCrosby@crosbygrp.com; spambayes@python.org Subject = RE: [Spambayes] Moving spam to the junk folder Scanning time = 1/25/2005 6:23:53 PM Action on file blocking: The attachment image002.jpg matches the file blocking settings. ScanMail has Quarantined it. The attachment was quarantined to C:\Program Files\Trend\Smex\Alert\image00241f6d5092d2.jpg_. Warning to Recipient: Action taken by attachment blocking. From RMezzone at PJSolomon.com Wed Jan 26 00:25:54 2005 From: RMezzone at PJSolomon.com (Robert Mezzone) Date: Wed Jan 26 00:25:57 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Moving spam to the junk folder Message-ID: It's a Microsoft issue. Louise emailed me directly with a solution she found, switching to cached mode. However this should only be used if you are running Exchange 2003. If you use this setting and are running older versions of Exchange you can cause problems. Cached mode is nothing more then a fancy name for a local OST file, a local replica of your mailbox. Robert -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer To: Robert Mezzone ; LCrosby@crosbygrp.com ; spambayes@python.org Sent: Tue Jan 25 18:20:22 2005 Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Moving spam to the junk folder [Robert Mezzone] > This is a known issue when certain versions of Outlook > and Exchange are used together. I can check the version > numbers if you are interested. I definitely am. This comes up _really_ often. It would be good to have a FAQ that listed specific version numbers. When you say "known issue", do you mean just with SpamBayes, or is this wider than that? I don't suppose you know of a Microsoft kb article about it? (I've looked in the past, but never managed to find anything, but then I'm not great at searching the Microsoft kb). > I believe it's newer versions of Outlook with older > versions of Exchange, i.e. Outlook 2003 and Exchange > 5.5 exhibit this behavior. I see it with Outlook 2002 SP2 (is there any way a regular user can check their Exchange version?). =Tony.Meyer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050125/3a563747/attachment.htm From aoliveri at rochester.rr.com Wed Jan 26 02:36:03 2005 From: aoliveri at rochester.rr.com (Oliveri) Date: Wed Jan 26 02:37:06 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Using Spambayes with Outlook Express Message-ID: <000601c50347$6716b570$6401a8c0@oliveri2> I have Outlook Express and dowloaded Spambayes. I believe I followed the instructions on what to do if I have a pop3 server, although I don't know what "install a binary version" means. I configured it. But when I open up the spambayes web interface and try to do the following: 1.Train on proxied messages: I clicked "review messages", and got a page that said: This Page cannot be displayed" the address on the page was http://localhost.8880/review 2.I went down to Train on a message,mboxfile or dbxfile. I clicked "browse", chose my e-mail icon, and when I clicked "Train as Spam", got a blank page. When I clicked on "Train as Ham", I got "This page cannot be displayed". I guess I don't know how to use Spambayes. Can anyone help? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050125/24b72558/attachment.html From jmdeis at sio.midco.net Wed Jan 26 02:47:09 2005 From: jmdeis at sio.midco.net (Jolene Marie Deis) Date: Wed Jan 26 02:47:14 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Says an outlook folder is full and SB will not alow delete as spam Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: spambayes3.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 20252 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050125/c0e1356e/spambayes3.obj From sole at soleassociates.com Wed Jan 26 02:55:45 2005 From: sole at soleassociates.com (Kenneth Sole) Date: Wed Jan 26 02:57:25 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Duplicate messages handled differently...? Message-ID: <000001c5034a$272fe280$6901a8c0@Kitchen> Howdy, I have noticed that I very frequently receive two identical messages and that one of them is moved to my Spam folder while the other is moved to my Review folder. This is no great inconvenience, but I am perplexed by this aspect of Spambayes. What might be the cause? Sincere thanks, -- Kenneth From ta-meyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jan 26 02:59:45 2005 From: ta-meyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Jan 26 03:00:05 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Thanks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Re: [spambayes-bugs] [ spambayes-Bugs-1109526 ] Can't Move the items] > Sorry to report a bug that has already been reported but > thanks for the quick response to my bug report. No worries. > I am not a > computer programmer, but from what I can decipher from the > records, it looks like that If I get a newer version of Outlook > this problem may go away for me. Is that so? Yes. Actually, this is specific to 2002, so an *older* version (2000) would also work (going up is probably better than going down, though). What to do really depends on your specific situation. If you use the 'Advanced Find & Drag' functionality a lot, then if it's simple to upgrade to OL2003, then that would certainly solve the problem. If you don't use the functionality much, then you can probably ignore the problem. If you use it a lot and upgrading isn't simple, then maybe you'll need to find a different filter (the problem isn't specific to SpamBayes, but it's possible that other filters operate in different ways so don't trigger the Outlook bug). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jan 26 03:03:48 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Jan 26 03:04:28 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Duplicate messages handled differently...? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have noticed that I very frequently receive two identical > messages and that one of them is moved to my Spam folder > while the other is moved to my Review folder. > > This is no great inconvenience, but I am perplexed by this > aspect of Spambayes. To answer this we (or you) really need to see the clues for the message. Next time this happens (before you do any training on the messages) select them and choose "Show spam clues for this message" from the SpamBayes menu. That will pop up a message with the clues for the selected message. If you examine the clues, you'll probably be able to see the difference (and so hopefully understand why and what to do about it), but if you're stuck, feel free to forward a copy on to the list and we'll give it a go. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jan 26 03:07:41 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Jan 26 03:07:54 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Says an outlook folder is full and SB will not alowdelete as spam In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > This just started today, which is funny because last week > I emptied all but a few emails out of all folders. Was one of those the spam folder? That's the most likely one for which being full would be a problem. In any case, the solution is to find the folder that is full (it's almost certain to be either your spam folder or your unsure folder) and make room in it. This is an Outlook restriction, so there's nothing SpamBayes can do about it. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jan 26 03:19:17 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Jan 26 03:19:22 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Using Spambayes with Outlook Express In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have Outlook Express and dowloaded Spambayes. > I believe I followed the instructions on what to > do if I have a pop3 server, although I don't know > what "install a binary version" means. It means that you download a file called spambayes-1.0.1.exe, not a file called spambayes-1.0.1.zip or spambayes-1.0.1.tar.gz. You almost certainly did this. > I configured it. But when I open up the spambayes web > interface and try to do the following: > 1.Train on proxied messages: I clicked "review messages", > and got a page that said: This Page cannot be displayed" > the address on the page was http://localhost.8880/review The address was actually (colon not period), right? If not, try that. Did the page have any other information on it? If it did, could you copy the text and send it on to us? > 2.I went down to Train on a message,mboxfile or dbxfile. Note that you don't need to do this (training as you go is generally a much better way to go), although you can if you like. > I clicked "browse", chose my e-mail icon, and when I clicked > "Train as Spam", got a blank page. What do you mean by your "e-mail icon"? To use that "Train" box, you need to select a mbox or dbx file, which is where mail clients store mail. With Outlook Express this will be dbx files, and they will be hidden away somewhere like 'C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\Local Settings\Application Data\Identities\{hex stuff}\Microsoft\Outlook Express\' (that's all one extremely long path; my mailer will split it onto multiple lines). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From JJKent at avemarialaw.edu Wed Jan 26 06:22:29 2005 From: JJKent at avemarialaw.edu (Kent, James) Date: Wed Jan 26 06:22:42 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Moving spam to the junk folder Message-ID: <91EC78587248DA44A26C19F05245D691D677C8@lawmail2.avemarialaw.edu> I am also seeing this exact issue. I have Exchange 2003 with Outlook 2000 Clients. It started after I started pushing out Windows XP SP2. I went to one machine and did a roll back to SP1 and the issue has went away. I think it is a MS issue. Possible firewall issue. I watched the firewall log on my local pc for any hits but didn't see any. I went through and put the Exchange 2003 server on static ports. From researching the MS end, the communication back from Exchange to outlook for "refresh" is done with UDP, which the outlook client is never hearing. This is still an issue at my site. ...Jim Kent, Network Administrator Ave Maria Law School _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org on behalf of Harold Vandeventer Sent: Tue 1/25/2005 6:19 PM To: Robert Mezzone; tameyer@ihug.co.nz; LCrosby@crosbygrp.com; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Moving spam to the junk folder The display refresh is probably not related to Exchange version; I've seen it with Exchange 2000 and Exchange 2003. It is complex: I monitor two PCs, same version Windows (XP/SP2), Outlook 2003 (Cached mode or not appears unrelated), with mail folders on same Exchange Server. Upon clicking "Delete as SPAM" or "Recover from Spam" one of the PCs instantly updates the Outlook display; the other PC requires the "manual refresh" approach. Go figure! ____________________________________ Harold Vandeventer Network Administrator DPRA Incorporated 200 Research Dr Manhattan, KS 66503 Voice: (785) 539-3565 ext 1026 FAX: (785) 537-0272 _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Robert Mezzone Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 5:08 PM To: tameyer@ihug.co.nz; LCrosby@crosbygrp.com; spambayes@python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Moving spam to the junk folder This is a known issue when certain versions of Outlook and Exchange are used together. I can check the version numbers if you are interested. I bellieve it's newer versions of Outlook with older versions of Exchange, i.e. Outlook 2003 and Exchange 5.5 exhibit this behavior. You have to switch folders in order for the folder contents to refresh. The message is there, it's just not being displayed. hth. Robert -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org To: 'Louise S. Crosby' ; spambayes@python.org Sent: Tue Jan 25 17:53:46 2005 Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Moving spam to the junk folder > Since I've upgraded to Outlook 2003 and the newest > Spam Bayes, when I send an email to the Junk folder > by highlighting the email and clicking on "Remove as spam", > the email stays in the Inbox until I go to Tasks or some > other folder or to another program. Is there someplace > I need to check that I want the email moved to Junk immediately? Actually, the move is carried out immediately, but Outlook doesn't update the display. It's quite common for people to experience this with both Outlook 2002 and 2003 (always with Exchange, I think). Annoyingly, we don't know what causes this (and it didn't use to happen, and doesn't appear to be caused by something we are doing differently). We are looking into it, though, so hopefully will find a solution soon, and will include that in an upcoming release. For the moment, this doesn't actually cause any problems - your Outlook display is just slightly out of date, which quickly resolves itself. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The attachment was quarantined to C:\Program Files\Trend\Smex\Alert\image00241f729672d9.jpg_. Warning to Recipient: Action taken by attachment blocking. From arti.kumar at parallelglobal.com Wed Jan 26 13:35:56 2005 From: arti.kumar at parallelglobal.com (Arti Kumar) Date: Wed Jan 26 13:35:58 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Toolbars don't work Message-ID: <4E9A1E81CFBADA4A89BD3166BA80101C08D4B7@nic-nts1.nic.parallel.ltd.uk> My SpamBayes Toolbar buttons in Outlook don't work. I have followed instructions in the troubleshooting guide, including removing the outcmd.dat file but the toolbar still does not work. Please can someone help me making this toolbar work. Regards, Arti -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050126/9d98a81b/attachment.htm From sole at soleassociates.com Wed Jan 26 14:55:32 2005 From: sole at soleassociates.com (Kenneth Sole) Date: Wed Jan 26 14:54:41 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Duplicate messages handled differently...? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003701c503ae$b43481e0$6801a8c0@kenneth00> Hi Tony, and others, Well, it did not take long to have the opportunity to check the "clues." I just received two messages (an eBay phishing spam). One moved to my review folder, the other to my spam folder. The messages appeared identical, and so as per your suggestion, I checked the "clues." To my surprise, they appear identical as well... With apologies for the detail, they are included below. I have snipped the Message Stream etc. Here are the clues for the message that want to Review: Combined Score: 100% (1) Internal ham score (*H*): 1.66533e-015 Internal spam score (*S*): 1 # ham trained on: 132 # spam trained on: 648 121 Significant Tokens token spamprob #ham #spam 'clicking' 0.129738 5 3 'bi:protect your' 0.154726 4 3 'bi:for more' 0.177298 9 9 'reply' 0.233493 21 31 'address' 0.240901 24 37 'from:addr:support' 0.256002 2 3 'proto:https' 0.295606 5 10 'using' 0.304795 15 32 'review' 0.310693 6 13 'bi:and choose' 0.316934 1 2 'bi:below click' 0.316934 1 2 'bi:internet explorer' 0.316934 1 2 'web' 0.318722 11 25 'not' 0.325615 79 187 'has' 0.356189 38 103 'bi:visit our' 0.363156 4 11 'use' 0.3721 20 58 'from' 0.372421 67 195 'bi:link the' 0.391515 1 3 'have' 0.393714 70 223 'header:Reply-To:1' 0.626312 21 173 'bi:to:2**0 x-mailer:none' 0.678836 31 322 'bi:url:com url:images' 0.687905 2 22 'bi:header:Subject:1 proto:http' 0.688141 26 282 'url:i' 0.733383 1 14 'yourself' 0.818139 1 23 'bi:access and' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:any page.' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:browser (e.g.' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:cannot answered.' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:dear paypal' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:e-mail. mail' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:flagged accounts' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:for assistance,' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:here verify' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:info make' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:information file' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:information thank' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:log your' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:never provide' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:open new' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:password email.' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:preferences here.' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:receive email' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:require all' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:safe paypal' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:safely and' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:secure server' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:skip:n 10 plain' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:system part' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:team _____' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:team please' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:text instead' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:the "help"' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:the hyperlink' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:this must' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:time, please' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:tips dear' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:type the' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:url:23 url:12' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:url:com proto:https' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:url:en_us url:images' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:url:gif paypal' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:url:securitytips proto:http' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:verify their' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:website your' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:your password' 0.908163 0 2 'flagged' 0.908163 0 2 'footer' 0.908163 0 2 'fraud,' 0.908163 0 2 'html,' 0.908163 0 2 'measures.' 0.908163 0 2 'netscape)' 0.908163 0 2 'paypal!' 0.908163 0 2 'pp478' 0.908163 0 2 'randomly' 0.908163 0 2 'subject:PayPal' 0.908163 0 2 'url:)' 0.908163 0 2 'url:bg_clk' 0.908163 0 2 'url:prefs-noti' 0.908163 0 2 'url:scr' 0.908163 0 2 'url:securitytips' 0.908163 0 2 'webform' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:ask you' 0.934783 0 3 'bi:our security' 0.934783 0 3 'bi:paypal email' 0.934783 0 3 'bi:paypal will' 0.934783 0 3 'bi:sure you' 0.934783 0 3 'bi:the paypal' 0.934783 0 3 'bi:url:images url:paypal' 0.934783 0 3 'bi:url:www url:paypal' 0.934783 0 3 'bi:your paypal' 0.934783 0 3 'fraudulent' 0.934783 0 3 'from:addr:paypal.com' 0.934783 0 3 'from:name:paypal' 0.934783 0 3 'protecting' 0.934783 0 3 'url:206' 0.934783 0 3 'url:email_logo' 0.934783 0 3 'url:en_us' 0.934783 0 3 'url:pixel' 0.934783 0 3 'url:webscr' 0.934783 0 3 'websites.' 0.934783 0 3 'bi:enter your' 0.949438 0 4 'bi:only you' 0.949438 0 4 'bi:sent this' 0.949438 0 4 'bi:url:us proto:http' 0.949438 0 4 'member,' 0.949438 0 4 'securely' 0.949438 0 4 'url:64' 0.949438 0 4 'url:logo' 0.949438 0 4 'bi:access the' 0.958716 0 5 'bi:update your' 0.965116 0 6 'bi:with us.' 0.965116 0 6 'routine' 0.965116 0 6 'bi:account and' 0.973373 0 8 'subject:Account' 0.97619 0 9 'account,' 0.978469 0 10 'bi:your information' 0.978469 0 10 'url' 0.980349 0 11 'bi:your account' 0.983271 0 13 'message-id:@hotmail.com' 0.984429 0 14 and here are the clues for the message that went to the spam folder: Combined Score: 100% (1) Internal ham score (*H*): 1.66533e-015 Internal spam score (*S*): 1 # ham trained on: 132 # spam trained on: 648 121 Significant Tokens token spamprob #ham #spam 'clicking' 0.129738 5 3 'bi:protect your' 0.154726 4 3 'bi:for more' 0.177298 9 9 'reply' 0.233493 21 31 'address' 0.240901 24 37 'from:addr:support' 0.256002 2 3 'proto:https' 0.295606 5 10 'using' 0.304795 15 32 'review' 0.310693 6 13 'bi:and choose' 0.316934 1 2 'bi:below click' 0.316934 1 2 'bi:internet explorer' 0.316934 1 2 'web' 0.318722 11 25 'not' 0.325615 79 187 'has' 0.356189 38 103 'bi:visit our' 0.363156 4 11 'use' 0.3721 20 58 'from' 0.372421 67 195 'bi:link the' 0.391515 1 3 'have' 0.393714 70 223 'header:Reply-To:1' 0.626312 21 173 'bi:to:2**0 x-mailer:none' 0.678836 31 322 'bi:url:com url:images' 0.687905 2 22 'bi:header:Subject:1 proto:http' 0.688141 26 282 'url:i' 0.733383 1 14 'yourself' 0.818139 1 23 'bi:access and' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:any page.' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:browser (e.g.' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:cannot answered.' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:dear paypal' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:e-mail. mail' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:flagged accounts' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:for assistance,' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:here verify' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:info make' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:information file' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:information thank' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:log your' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:never provide' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:open new' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:password email.' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:preferences here.' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:receive email' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:require all' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:safe paypal' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:safely and' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:secure server' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:skip:n 10 plain' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:system part' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:team _____' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:team please' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:text instead' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:the "help"' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:the hyperlink' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:this must' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:time, please' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:tips dear' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:type the' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:url:23 url:12' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:url:com proto:https' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:url:en_us url:images' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:url:gif paypal' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:url:securitytips proto:http' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:verify their' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:website your' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:your password' 0.908163 0 2 'flagged' 0.908163 0 2 'footer' 0.908163 0 2 'fraud,' 0.908163 0 2 'html,' 0.908163 0 2 'measures.' 0.908163 0 2 'netscape)' 0.908163 0 2 'paypal!' 0.908163 0 2 'pp478' 0.908163 0 2 'randomly' 0.908163 0 2 'subject:PayPal' 0.908163 0 2 'url:)' 0.908163 0 2 'url:bg_clk' 0.908163 0 2 'url:prefs-noti' 0.908163 0 2 'url:scr' 0.908163 0 2 'url:securitytips' 0.908163 0 2 'webform' 0.908163 0 2 'bi:ask you' 0.934783 0 3 'bi:our security' 0.934783 0 3 'bi:paypal email' 0.934783 0 3 'bi:paypal will' 0.934783 0 3 'bi:sure you' 0.934783 0 3 'bi:the paypal' 0.934783 0 3 'bi:url:images url:paypal' 0.934783 0 3 'bi:url:www url:paypal' 0.934783 0 3 'bi:your paypal' 0.934783 0 3 'fraudulent' 0.934783 0 3 'from:addr:paypal.com' 0.934783 0 3 'from:name:paypal' 0.934783 0 3 'protecting' 0.934783 0 3 'url:206' 0.934783 0 3 'url:email_logo' 0.934783 0 3 'url:en_us' 0.934783 0 3 'url:pixel' 0.934783 0 3 'url:webscr' 0.934783 0 3 'websites.' 0.934783 0 3 'bi:enter your' 0.949438 0 4 'bi:only you' 0.949438 0 4 'bi:sent this' 0.949438 0 4 'bi:url:us proto:http' 0.949438 0 4 'member,' 0.949438 0 4 'securely' 0.949438 0 4 'url:64' 0.949438 0 4 'url:logo' 0.949438 0 4 'bi:access the' 0.958716 0 5 'bi:update your' 0.965116 0 6 'bi:with us.' 0.965116 0 6 'routine' 0.965116 0 6 'bi:account and' 0.973373 0 8 'subject:Account' 0.97619 0 9 'account,' 0.978469 0 10 'bi:your information' 0.978469 0 10 'url' 0.980349 0 11 'bi:your account' 0.983271 0 13 'message-id:@hotmail.com' 0.984429 0 14 Might you have any further insight into this situation? Sincere thanks, -- Kenneth Sole & Associates, Inc. Box 292 Durham, New Hampshire 03824 Voice: 603-659-3169 Fax: 603-659-2248 Email: sole@soleAssociates.com URL: http://www.soleAssociates.com PGP: http://wwwkeys.ch.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE17941C6 -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 9:04 PM To: 'Kenneth Sole'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Duplicate messages handled differently...? > I have noticed that I very frequently receive two identical > messages and that one of them is moved to my Spam folder > while the other is moved to my Review folder. > > This is no great inconvenience, but I am perplexed by this > aspect of Spambayes. To answer this we (or you) really need to see the clues for the message. Next time this happens (before you do any training on the messages) select them and choose "Show spam clues for this message" from the SpamBayes menu. That will pop up a message with the clues for the selected message. If you examine the clues, you'll probably be able to see the difference (and so hopefully understand why and what to do about it), but if you're stuck, feel free to forward a copy on to the list and we'll give it a go. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jan 26 23:57:59 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Jan 26 23:58:12 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Duplicate messages handled differently...? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Well, it did not take long to have the opportunity to check the > "clues." I just received two messages (an eBay phishing spam). One > moved to my review folder, the other to my spam folder. The messages > appeared identical, and so as per your suggestion, I checked the > "clues." > > To my surprise, they appear identical as well... And they both scored 100%, which as spammy as you can get. This means that it's not a problem with correctly scoring the message, but with moving the message to the spam folder. Next time this happens could you grab a copy of your log file (SpamBayes->SpamBayes Manager->Advanced->Diagnostics->View Log) and send us a copy of that? Either there will be an error or there should be clues in the messages that are there that will let us figure out what's happening. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From hans at pobox.com Thu Jan 27 02:07:00 2005 From: hans at pobox.com (Hans Henderson) Date: Thu Jan 27 02:07:20 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP problem In-Reply-To: <242F52CF80AF84541CC7CC4D@hans.main.shrewsbury.ac.th> References: <242F52CF80AF84541CC7CC4D@hans.main.shrewsbury.ac.th> Message-ID: <56DA4F4869BBC57A6C22C375@hans.main.shrewsbury.ac.th> Sorry for pestering, but any ideas on this? --On 25 January 2005 12:49 +0700 Hans Henderson wrote: > SpamBayes IMAP Filter Version 0.5 (November 2004) and engine SpamBayes > Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004) > > Local mailhost is Mercury v4.01a, front-end is Mulberry, OS is XP SP2. > > Filtering's fine except that both spam and ham are left in the INBOX. I > can tell which is which by opening up my SUSPECT and UNSURE folders > side-by-side with my INBOX, but with 300+ spam per day this is a bit > tedious > > Sometimes it does delete the spam from the INBOX, but never when there's > a big batch (first thing in the morning). When there's only a dozen or > so incoming, it may work properly, but only sometimes. > > I've looked through the troubleshooting pages, but don't see anything > specifically about the IMAP filter, and don't know where to find my logs, > if there are any. > > I tried re-installing from scratch, deleted both my hammie and message > databases, but that didn't help. > > Thanks in advance for any suggestions you might have. . . > > From ta-meyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Jan 27 04:12:34 2005 From: ta-meyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Jan 27 04:12:39 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] ANNOUNCE: SpamBayes release 1.0.1 Message-ID: The SpamBayes team is pleased to announce release 1.0.2 of SpamBayes. As is now usual, this is both a release of the source code and of an installation program for all Microsoft Windows users. This is a bug-fix release that fixes a number of minor issues with the 1.0.1 release, but includes no new functionality, and is entirely compatible with the 1.0 release. A 1.1a1 release, including many new features, will probably be released soon (probably within a few weeks). This release fixes a couple of bugs with the sb_server/sb_imapfilter web interface which are particularly annoying, so we strongly recommend all such users upgrade. This release also includes the first binary built with Python 2.4 - as a result, malformed email should no longer be a problem. Details about the bugs that have been fixed in this release can be found at https://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=285346 You can get the release via the 'Download' page at http://spambayes.org/download.html Enjoy the new release and your spam-free mailbox :-) As always, thanks to everyone involved in this release, and, as always, the Python development team, particularly Barry, Anthony and the rest of the team responsible for email 3.0. Tony. (on behalf of the SpamBayes team) --- What is SpamBayes? --- The SpamBayes project is working on developing a Bayesian (of sorts) anti-spam filter (in Python), initially based on the work of Paul Graham, but since modified with ideas from Robinson, Peters, et al. The project includes a number of different applications, all using the same core code, ranging from a plug-in for Microsoft Outlook, to a POP3 proxy, to various command-line tools. The Windows installation program will install either the Outlook add-in (for Microsoft Outlook users), or the SpamBayes server program (for all other POP3 mail client users, including Microsoft Outlook Express). All Windows users (including existing users of the Outlook add-in) are encouraged to use the installation program. If you wish to use the source-code version, you will also need to install Python - see README.txt in the source tree for more information. From Cosper at GSCACCOUNTING.COM Thu Jan 27 05:37:14 2005 From: Cosper at GSCACCOUNTING.COM (Dave) Date: Thu Jan 27 05:35:40 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] junk suspects - Message-ID: <96F70EF7CD7A6345B2E25D71EED4989B0F972D@gscserver.gscaccounting.local> can anyone tell me why mail from one specific email address always go to my junk suspects, even though every time I click to "recover it from spam"? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050126/72402449/attachment.htm From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Jan 27 05:42:18 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Jan 27 05:42:23 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] junk suspects - In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > can anyone tell me why mail from one specific email > address always go to my junk suspects, even though > every time I click to "recover it from spam"? Yes. Or, if you want more information than that : yes, anyone with a copy of clues for that message (as generated by selecting the message and choosing "Show spam clues for this message" from the SpamBayes menu). Without that, no-one has any idea. Feel free to send a copy on to the list for explanation. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From Cosper at GSCACCOUNTING.COM Thu Jan 27 06:06:50 2005 From: Cosper at GSCACCOUNTING.COM (Dave) Date: Thu Jan 27 06:05:15 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Clues: test Message-ID: <96F70EF7CD7A6345B2E25D71EED4989B0F9734@gscserver.gscaccounting.local> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Dave" Subject: test Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 21:57:06 -0700 Size: 1327 Url: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050126/855876e2/attachment.mht From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Jan 27 06:17:10 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Jan 27 06:17:20 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Clues: test In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > mail from this sender always goes to my junk suspects, > though I ALWAYS mark it to "recover from spam"- any > suggestions as to how to make it not be spam? > > Combined Score: 38% (0.384155) > Internal ham score (*H*): 0.891505 > Internal spam score (*S*): 0.659815 > > # ham trained on: 23653 > # spam trained on: 1734 > > 6 Significant Tokens > token spamprob #ham #spam > 'to:addr:dave' 0.00140231 160 0 > 'message' 0.235257 7317 165 > 'from:none' 0.616347 280 33 > 'message-id:invalid' 0.727912 280 55 > 'subject:test' 0.799655 13 4 > 'to:no real name:2**0' 0.923187 1314 1159 Very short messages are very difficult, because there is not much for SpamBayes to work with. Messages that never travel through the Internet (Exchange only ones like this) are especially difficult, because there are no headers to generate tokens from. It doesn't help right now, but the 1.1 SpamBayes release tries harder to generate tokens from the Exchange data available, which should help a bit. Right now, however, the thing that would help the most is to retrain from scratch. We recommend that people try and keep their database roughly balanced between ham and spam (yours is about 14::1). If the database is significantly imbalanced you get oddities like the 'to:no real name:2**0' token, which has been seen in more ham than spam, but is a significant spam clue (because comparitively little spam has been seen). With a balanced database all the significant tokens in that message would have been ham clues (it probably would have been a solid 0%). (25000-odd messages is also a fairly large database - we find that people generally get good results with smaller databases (say under 1000 messages). There's a lot of information about training techniques at , but the simplest one to use with Outlook is: * Remove your existing database (if you like, simply rename it and then you can always revert to it if you want). * Only train on messages that end up in your unsure folder, good messages that end up in the spam folder, and spam messages that stay in a (watched) good folder. If you end up getting only spam messages in your unsure folder (after a while), consider lowering the threshold (say to 80%, or maybe 70%). I hope this is of use! =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From Cosper at GSCACCOUNTING.COM Thu Jan 27 06:44:16 2005 From: Cosper at GSCACCOUNTING.COM (Dave) Date: Thu Jan 27 06:42:43 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Clues: test Message-ID: <96F70EF7CD7A6345B2E25D71EED4989B0F9735@gscserver.gscaccounting.local> Thanks for the great reply. -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 10:17 PM To: Dave; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spam Clues: test > mail from this sender always goes to my junk suspects, > though I ALWAYS mark it to "recover from spam"- any suggestions as to > how to make it not be spam? > > Combined Score: 38% (0.384155) > Internal ham score (*H*): 0.891505 > Internal spam score (*S*): 0.659815 > > # ham trained on: 23653 > # spam trained on: 1734 > > 6 Significant Tokens > token spamprob #ham #spam > 'to:addr:dave' 0.00140231 160 0 > 'message' 0.235257 7317 165 > 'from:none' 0.616347 280 33 > 'message-id:invalid' 0.727912 280 55 > 'subject:test' 0.799655 13 4 > 'to:no real name:2**0' 0.923187 1314 1159 Very short messages are very difficult, because there is not much for SpamBayes to work with. Messages that never travel through the Internet (Exchange only ones like this) are especially difficult, because there are no headers to generate tokens from. It doesn't help right now, but the 1.1 SpamBayes release tries harder to generate tokens from the Exchange data available, which should help a bit. Right now, however, the thing that would help the most is to retrain from scratch. We recommend that people try and keep their database roughly balanced between ham and spam (yours is about 14::1). If the database is significantly imbalanced you get oddities like the 'to:no real name:2**0' token, which has been seen in more ham than spam, but is a significant spam clue (because comparitively little spam has been seen). With a balanced database all the significant tokens in that message would have been ham clues (it probably would have been a solid 0%). (25000-odd messages is also a fairly large database - we find that people generally get good results with smaller databases (say under 1000 messages). There's a lot of information about training techniques at , but the simplest one to use with Outlook is: * Remove your existing database (if you like, simply rename it and then you can always revert to it if you want). * Only train on messages that end up in your unsure folder, good messages that end up in the spam folder, and spam messages that stay in a (watched) good folder. If you end up getting only spam messages in your unsure folder (after a while), consider lowering the threshold (say to 80%, or maybe 70%). I hope this is of use! =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From ebbe at ppforlag.dk Thu Jan 27 09:56:39 2005 From: ebbe at ppforlag.dk (Ebbe Hansen) Date: Thu Jan 27 10:06:42 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Out of Office AutoReply: Mail Delivery (failure eva@ppforlag.com) Message-ID: Ebbe Hansen Systems Administrator Pilot Productions Group ApS PPFORLAG A/S Rentemestervej 2 DK-2400 Copenhagen NV Denmark Ph. +45 3581 3500 Mob. +45 2579 7483 Fax +45 3581 3700 www.ppforlag.com ebbe@ppforlag.com MSN: ebbe@ppforlag.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050127/5aaa45a7/attachment.html From achase at m-c-inc.com Thu Jan 27 14:36:45 2005 From: achase at m-c-inc.com (Andrew Chase) Date: Thu Jan 27 14:36:54 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: <20050127083649.GA15279@mail26b.sbc-webhosting.com> I'm currently using binary version .81 and it works great. I've downloaded SpamBayes (3.25mb). When I try to install I get error "This application has failed to start because MSVCR71.dll was not found. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem" (it doesn't). Andrew Chase achase@m-c-inc.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050127/41e25aad/attachment.htm From dbettinger at cxtec.com Thu Jan 27 14:44:34 2005 From: dbettinger at cxtec.com (Dean Bettinger) Date: Thu Jan 27 14:44:42 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: <25AC2CBEEFA22F49BC36DED1250EB6A8070C50F4@cxmailx.ad.cxtec.com> I had the same problem. Grabbing the DLL from another PC and putting it in the proper location and then re-running the install resolved the problem. First time I've ever experienced an error upgrading SpamBayes and I've done all the upgrades over the last 20 months or so. Dean _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Chase Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 8:37 AM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) I'm currently using binary version .81 and it works great. I've downloaded SpamBayes (3.25mb). When I try to install I get error "This application has failed to start because MSVCR71.dll was not found. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem" (it doesn't). Andrew Chase achase@m-c-inc.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050127/47c7aa6d/attachment.html From sole at soleassociates.com Thu Jan 27 15:40:12 2005 From: sole at soleassociates.com (Kenneth Sole) Date: Thu Jan 27 15:39:45 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Duplicate messages handled differently...? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000701c5047e$1c13feb0$6801a8c0@kenneth00> Hi Tony & All, I just received another duplicate message. As happens occasionally, one went to the Spam Folder, and the other to my Review Folder. Here is the Log: Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Kenneth Sole\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Kenneth Sole\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' Bayes database initialized with 652 spam and 134 good messages SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0.2 (January 2005) starting (with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004)) on Windows 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 4) using Python 2.4 (#60, Nov 30 2004, 11:49:19) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)] SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Desktop/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Desktop/Junk SPAM' Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' - (-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None, 0, -2147467259), None) The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar... Message 'cleanse bijective ' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure' Is the line: "Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer" the indication of my problem? I should add that the log above is the one visible when I first noticed the double message. I get mail frequently and wonder if the log I have above might be from a run after the message was received. How might I know that? Thanks for any further help, -- Kenneth Sole & Associates, Inc. Box 292 Durham, New Hampshire 03824 Voice: 603-659-3169 Fax: 603-659-2248 Email: sole@soleAssociates.com URL: http://www.soleAssociates.com PGP: http://wwwkeys.ch.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE17941C6 -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 5:58 PM To: 'Kenneth Sole'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Duplicate messages handled differently...? > Well, it did not take long to have the opportunity to check the > "clues." I just received two messages (an eBay phishing spam). One > moved to my review folder, the other to my spam folder. The messages > appeared identical, and so as per your suggestion, I checked the > "clues." > > To my surprise, they appear identical as well... And they both scored 100%, which as spammy as you can get. This means that it's not a problem with correctly scoring the message, but with moving the message to the spam folder. Next time this happens could you grab a copy of your log file (SpamBayes->SpamBayes Manager->Advanced->Diagnostics->View Log) and send us a copy of that? Either there will be an error or there should be clues in the messages that are there that will let us figure out what's happening. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From sole at soleassociates.com Thu Jan 27 15:44:50 2005 From: sole at soleassociates.com (Kenneth Sole) Date: Thu Jan 27 15:44:28 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Duplicate messages handled differently...? In-Reply-To: <000701c5047e$1c13feb0$6801a8c0@kenneth00> Message-ID: <000801c5047e$c1f3add0$6801a8c0@kenneth00> Hello again, I just saw that my log is written each time I run a send/receive cycle. As a result, the log that I sent might not be relevant to my issue. Thanks, -- Kenneth Sole & Associates, Inc. Box 292 Durham, New Hampshire 03824 Voice: 603-659-3169 Fax: 603-659-2248 Email: sole@soleAssociates.com URL: http://www.soleAssociates.com PGP: http://wwwkeys.ch.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE17941C6 -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth Sole [mailto:sole@soleassociates.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 9:40 AM To: 'Tony Meyer'; 'Kenneth Sole'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Duplicate messages handled differently...? Hi Tony & All, I just received another duplicate message. As happens occasionally, one went to the Spam Folder, and the other to my Review Folder. Here is the Log: Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Kenneth Sole\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Kenneth Sole\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' Bayes database initialized with 652 spam and 134 good messages SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0.2 (January 2005) starting (with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004)) on Windows 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 4) using Python 2.4 (#60, Nov 30 2004, 11:49:19) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)] SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Desktop/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Desktop/Junk SPAM' Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' - (-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None, 0, -2147467259), None) The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar... Message 'cleanse bijective ' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure' Is the line: "Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer" the indication of my problem? I should add that the log above is the one visible when I first noticed the double message. I get mail frequently and wonder if the log I have above might be from a run after the message was received. How might I know that? Thanks for any further help, -- Kenneth Sole & Associates, Inc. Box 292 Durham, New Hampshire 03824 Voice: 603-659-3169 Fax: 603-659-2248 Email: sole@soleAssociates.com URL: http://www.soleAssociates.com PGP: http://wwwkeys.ch.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE17941C6 -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 5:58 PM To: 'Kenneth Sole'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Duplicate messages handled differently...? > Well, it did not take long to have the opportunity to check the > "clues." I just received two messages (an eBay phishing spam). One > moved to my review folder, the other to my spam folder. The messages > appeared identical, and so as per your suggestion, I checked the > "clues." > > To my surprise, they appear identical as well... And they both scored 100%, which as spammy as you can get. This means that it's not a problem with correctly scoring the message, but with moving the message to the spam folder. Next time this happens could you grab a copy of your log file (SpamBayes->SpamBayes Manager->Advanced->Diagnostics->View Log) and send us a copy of that? Either there will be an error or there should be clues in the messages that are there that will let us figure out what's happening. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From savgw at architelpartners.com Thu Jan 27 15:48:09 2005 From: savgw at architelpartners.com (savgw@architelpartners.com) Date: Thu Jan 27 15:48:12 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Virus found in a message you sent Message-ID: <20050127144809.810A01E4003@bag.python.org> A virus was found in a message sent by this account. --- Scan information follows --- Result: Virus Detected Virus Name: W32.Netsky.P@mm File Attachment: readme.zip Attachment Status: deleted --- Original message information follows --- From: spambayes@python.org To: info@edgate.com Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 08:17:39 -0600 Subject: Re: Delivery Protection Message-Id: <200501271416.j0REG6nW025310@mail3.edgate.com> Received: from BlackHole.architelpartners.com ([10.10.10.17]) by avmg1.architelpartners.com (SAVSMTP 3.1.0.29) with SMTP id M2005012708091211260 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 08:09:12 -0600 From achase at m-c-inc.com Thu Jan 27 15:48:56 2005 From: achase at m-c-inc.com (Andrew Chase) Date: Thu Jan 27 15:49:06 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: <20050127094902.GA68553@mail26a.sbc-webhosting.com> After clicking "Delete as Spam", the email does not move until I move to another email. Re "Messages don't move after clicking until I change folder" in the FAQ, the answer suggests "If you are using Exchange 2003 you can enable 'cached mode' and that typically fixes it". I am using Exchange 2003 but one of my PCs is running Outlook 2002 and I can't find a way to enable cached mode in that version. Any suggestions on fixing this in Outlook 2002? Andrew Chase achase@m-c-inc.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050127/ef3320d6/attachment.htm From Harold.Vandeventer at dpra.com Thu Jan 27 18:16:58 2005 From: Harold.Vandeventer at dpra.com (Harold Vandeventer) Date: Thu Jan 27 18:18:46 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Warning to Recipient: Action taken by attachment blocking. From monica at dbmarbella.com Fri Jan 28 03:36:37 2005 From: monica at dbmarbella.com (Monica.dbmarbella.com) Date: Thu Jan 27 18:38:24 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Spabayes download Message-ID: Who it may concern, I have had your Spambayes program for a long time on several machines. The program is great I think. Now, something has happened to one of my computers, the program doesn't work. I have tried to uninstall it many times and to re-install it again. Every time I try to install it says at the end of the installation that " an application of MSVCR71.dll" was not found and it recommends to re-install it again but I don't get any where. Have you got any suggestions? I would be grateful for a reply as far as I have hundreds of Spams every day in my box and I have no time to site and delete one by one. Thanking you in advance Monica ?kerman Gregorio Mara?on 1? , 29600 Marbella, Spain. Phone: +34 952 826 865, Fax:: +34 952 900 158, monica@dbmarbella.com www.dbmarbella.com From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Thu Jan 27 19:20:00 2005 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Thu Jan 27 19:20:06 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] MSVCR71.dll Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5022C36D@SPIKE.city> Reverting to 1.0.1 seems to have worked for me. YMMV, though, since I started at 1.0.1 and you started at 0.81. Tony's announcement notes that this release was built using a new version of Python. It won't surprise me if that turns out to be the problem. I guess we'll be seeing 1.0.3 RSN. Bob -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Andrew Chase Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 8:37 AM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) I'm currently using binary version .81 and it works great. I've downloaded SpamBayes (3.25mb). When I try to install I get error "This application has failed to start because MSVCR71.dll was not found. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem" (it doesn't). Andrew Chase achase@m-c-inc.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050127/6e4b30e7/attachment.htm From engsol at earthlink.net Thu Jan 27 20:28:27 2005 From: engsol at earthlink.net (Jim Robertson) Date: Thu Jan 27 20:28:39 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Problem Message-ID: <000001c504a6$66569640$7500a8c0@eshome> Tried to up-grade to v1.0.2 and no luck. Seems file MSVCR71.dll is not found. Search says it is not on my C; drive. Where do I get this and where should it be located on C;?? JDR From engsol at earthlink.net Thu Jan 27 20:38:04 2005 From: engsol at earthlink.net (Jim Robertson) Date: Thu Jan 27 20:38:16 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Problem Message-ID: <000101c504a7$bd5aa110$7500a8c0@eshome> Tried to up-grade to v1.0.2 and no luck. Seems file MSVCR71.dll is not found. Search says it is not on my C; drive. Where do I get this and where should it be located on C;?? JDR Add log file. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: spambayes1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 2581 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050127/2ecd4c54/spambayes1.obj From jsp at PKC.com Thu Jan 27 20:55:32 2005 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Thu Jan 27 20:55:35 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Problem Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9F15303@PKCVT01.pkc.com> I think you're better off sticking with 1.0.1 for the moment. The DLL is a Microsoft Visual C++ redistributable file, but unless you have another machine that has it, I'm not sure where you'll find it. The current working hypothesis is that this new dependency resulted from the switch to Python 2.4 beginning with this release. Presumably a new installer that includes it will be released. [Developers: see redist.txt in a Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2003 installation directory for proof that this file may be redistributed.] > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces@python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Jim Robertson > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 2:38 PM > To: spambayes@python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Problem > > Tried to up-grade to v1.0.2 and no luck. Seems file > MSVCR71.dll is not found. Search says it is not on my C; drive. > Where do I get this and where should it be located on C;?? JDR > > Add log file. > > From TaedN at vertical.com Thu Jan 27 21:02:09 2005 From: TaedN at vertical.com (Taed Wynnell) Date: Thu Jan 27 21:02:12 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes 1.0.2 in Outlook "hangs"... Message-ID: <3BD425723573A340B1DC1C00D86991D1052529@svlexchange.vertical.com> First off, I've been running 1.0.1 for a while with no issues, so this is something new about 1.0.2. I installed 1.0.2 this morning, it seemed to install fine, and after restarting Outlook, SpamBayes appears dead. It was not sorting mail, and when I click on the SpamBayes menu, it does not pull down or appear to respond to my mouse click. Likewise, it did nothing when I clicked on "Delete As Spam". However, Outlook is fine; I can read all my email just fine. I then restored 1.0.1, and all is fine again, so that at least rules out any Outlook Exchange Server issues. I'm running (gasp) Windows NT Server SP 6a plus all major hotfixes and Outlook 2002 SP 3 plus all major hotfixes. Feel free to contact me about which log files to send or other tests that should be done... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050127/b8aedf2b/attachment.html From dht01 at pacbell.net Thu Jan 27 22:25:21 2005 From: dht01 at pacbell.net (Dean Taylor) Date: Thu Jan 27 22:25:25 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes stopped working Message-ID: <006201c504b6$b55b36a0$6500a8c0@taylor.lan.com> It just stepped working and neither of the buttons in Outlook XP respond. I could not find any log file either. I am using the newest version. What to do? Thanks, Dean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050127/21224176/attachment.htm From pcconsultin1 at earthlink.net Thu Jan 27 22:32:48 2005 From: pcconsultin1 at earthlink.net (Will Pardy) Date: Thu Jan 27 22:32:44 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] How to make spambayes auto filter messages again - without retraining Message-ID: <000c01c504b7$c029fa70$6400a8c0@c139206a> I had to reinstall spambayes (Outlook Plug-in / WinXP - SP2 / Spambayes version 1.0.1). How do I make spambayes automatically start filtering messages after opening without having to manually select this option? The documentation only deals with retraining, which I do not want to do (and cannot accomplish with any accuracy due to not having a ham or spam folder) Any help would be appreciated. Thank you William S. Pardy DELPHI/PBS Psychotherapy Billing Software Home Page: www.delphipbs.com Send an Email wpardy@delphipbs.com Phone (503) 977-3654 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050127/f4bb5f58/attachment.html From sole at soleassociates.com Thu Jan 27 22:51:51 2005 From: sole at soleassociates.com (Kenneth Sole) Date: Thu Jan 27 22:52:11 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Problem In-Reply-To: <000101c504a7$bd5aa110$7500a8c0@eshome> Message-ID: <000601c504ba$69a55c00$7b01a8c0@note02> Howdy, I happened to have the DLL because it is part of the MS search tool called Lookout. That tool is available at: http://tinyurl.com/6n5aw If you then put the DLL in C:\Program Files\SpamBayes\bin the installation will be happy. As I hope is clear, I am not advocating for the switch to 1.02, but I do know that the above will work for the installation. All the best, -- Kenneth Sole & Associates, Inc. Box 292 Durham, New Hampshire 03824 Voice: 603-659-3169 Fax: 603-659-2248 Email: sole@soleAssociates.com URL: http://www.soleAssociates.com PGP: http://wwwkeys.ch.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE17941C6 -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Jim Robertson Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 2:38 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Problem Tried to up-grade to v1.0.2 and no luck. Seems file MSVCR71.dll is not found. Search says it is not on my C; drive. Where do I get this and where should it be located on C;?? JDR Add log file. From smillwee at securtest.com Thu Jan 27 23:10:27 2005 From: smillwee at securtest.com (Steven C. Millwee, CPP) Date: Thu Jan 27 23:41:19 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Why does the program put SPAM-ALERT on the subject line for emails not detected as spam. Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Steven C. Millwee, CPP.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 633 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050127/2b4d51eb/StevenC.MillweeCPP.vcf From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jan 28 00:03:57 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Jan 28 00:04:21 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] 1.0.2 and msvcrt71.dll In-Reply-To: Message-ID: (One big reply to all). Bugger. The machines I tested the binary on all have multiple copies of msvcr71.dll (including in windows\system32) so I didn't come across this. Microsoft say: """ An application should use and redistribute msvcr71.dll, and it should avoid placing a copy or using an existing copy of msvcr71.dll in the system directory. Instead, the application should keep a copy of msvcr71.dll in its application directory with the program executable. """ Unfortunately I was not aware of this issue before today. From what that says, I believe that the SpamBayes binary needs to package up the msvcrt71.dll like the python24.dll. It's an easy fix. I will get a 1.0.3 done today, ASAP. I'm already reaching for the brown paper bag... [Andrew Chase] > I'm currently using binary version .81 and it works great. > I've downloaded SpamBayes (3.25mb). When I try to install > I get error "This application has failed to start because > MSVCR71.dll was not found. Reinstalling the application may > fix this problem" (it doesn't). Note that you can use 1.0.1, which does include improvements to the Outlook plug-in compared to .81, and that should work fine. [Dean Bettinger] > I had the same problem. Grabbing the DLL from another PC > and putting it in the proper location and then re-running > the install resolved the problem. Yes, this will only be a problem for those that don't have mscr71.dll somewhere on their PATH already. > First time I've ever experienced an error upgrading SpamBayes > and I've done all the upgrades over the last 20 months or so. The problem (if I understand it correctly) is that I used Python 2.4 to build it (it's always been 2.3 in the past) which changed from being itself built with VC6 to VC7. [Bob Coe] > Tony's announcement notes that this release was built using a > new version of Python. It won't surprise me if that turns out > to be the problem. Yes. There was discussion about mscvrt71.dll on python-dev a little while back, but not enough to make me realise that this would be a problem, unfortunately. > I guess we'll be seeing 1.0.3 RSN. Indeed (as above). [Jim Robertson] > Tried to up-grade to v1.0.2 and no luck. Seems file MSVCR71.dll > is not found. Search says it is not on my C; drive. As Jessie said, this is a problem with the installer, and (as above) 1.0.3 will be out today and should fix it. My apologies for the difficulty & confusion. [Jesse Pelton] > [Developers: see redist.txt in a Microsoft Visual Studio .NET > 2003 installation directory for proof that this file may be > redistributed.] I don't have VS .Net of any type, so can't do that, but will assume that the website quoted above is good enough. Seems damn stupid to me, having dozens of copies of the same .dll everywhere, but I suppose Microsoft have a good reason <0.5 wink>. [Taed Wynnell] > First off, I've been running 1.0.1 for a while with no issues, > so this is something new about 1.0.2. > > I installed 1.0.2 this morning, it seemed to install fine, and > after restarting Outlook, SpamBayes appears dead. This is slightly different to the other reports, but I assume it has the same cause (or maybe there is a msvcrt71.dll, but it's different somehow?). I hope so, anyway (and the report that manually installing msvcrt71.dll fixed the problem is promising). [Dean Taylor] > It just stepped working and neither of the buttons in Outlook > XP respond. I could not find any log file either. I am using > the newest version. What to do? This is like Taed's report, so again I assume it is the same problem. Either revert to 1.0.1 or wait an hour or so and upgrade to 1.0.3. [Kenneth Sole] > I happened to have the DLL because it is part of the MS search > tool called Lookout. That tool is available at: > > http://tinyurl.com/6n5aw It's include in hundreds of different things (including something that I have - I don't know what - that installed it in Windows/System32 where anything can find it). > If you then put the DLL in C:\Program Files\SpamBayes\bin the > installation will be happy. Or if it is simply somewhere on the PATH, where SpamBayes can find it. =Tony.Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jan 28 00:09:22 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Jan 28 00:09:28 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Why does the program put SPAM-ALERT on the subject linefor emails not detected as spam. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Why does the program put SPAM-ALERT on the subject line > for emails not detected as spam. It looks like you are using Microsoft Outlook (and therefore presumably the SpamBayes Outlook plug-in). If that is the case, then SpamBayes does not put anything at all in the subject line. If you are not using the plug-in, and using sb_server, then if (and only if) you enable the "Notate subject" option, then SpamBayes will add "spam," to the subject of messages that it thinks are spam. Unless you manually edited your configuration file and are using 1.0.1, SpamBayes will not (and can not) add "SPAM-ALERT" to the subject. If you did do all that, then the question is really "why does SpamBayes think this mail is spam". FAQ 4.7 addresses that question (in reverse, but it's the same thing, really): However, the (overwhelmingly) most obvious answer to the question is that SpamBayes is not the one that is doing this. It is most likely that someone upstream (your ISP, your organisation, etc) is doing some sort of filtering and adding the subject tag. If they are making mistakes, then you'll have to talk to them about that! =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jan 28 00:10:51 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Jan 28 00:10:59 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Spabayes download In-Reply-To: Message-ID: (Opps. Missed this one). > I have had your Spambayes program for a long time on several > machines. The program is great I think. Now, something has > happened to one of my computers, the program doesn't work. I > have tried to uninstall it many times and to re-install it > again. Every time I try to install it says at the end of the > installation that " an application of MSVCR71.dll" was not > found and it recommends to re-install it again but I don't > get any where. This is a flaw in the 1.0.2 release, sorry. Either reinstalled 1.0.1, or wait for about an hour and install 1.0.3. My apologies for any inconvenience. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jan 28 00:29:43 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Jan 28 00:29:47 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Andrew Chase] > Re "Messages don't move after clicking until I change folder" > in the FAQ, the answer suggests "If you are using Exchange 2003 > you can enable 'cached mode' and that typically fixes it". I am > using Exchange 2003 but one of my PCs is running Outlook 2002 and > I can't find a way to enable cached mode in that version. [Harold Vandeventer] > Outlook Cached mode is a new feature in Outlook 2003, > you won't find it in the earlier versions. Thanks; I'll update the FAQ. =Tony.Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jan 28 00:32:42 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Jan 28 00:32:49 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] How to make spambayes auto filter messages again -without retraining In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > How do I make spambayes automatically start filtering > messages after opening without having to manually select > this option? If the "Enable SpamBayes" box (General tab of the SpamBayes Manager) is ticked, then all folders selected in the 'watched folders' list (Filtering tab of the SpamBayes Manager) will be filtered when Outlook is running. > The documentation only deals with retraining, which I do > not want to do (and cannot accomplish with any accuracy due > to not having a ham or spam folder) I'm not sure I understand this - filtering and training are quite separate. To filter, follow the steps above. If you want to train, then the best method is to just use the "Delete As Spam" and "Recover from Spam" buttons. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jan 28 01:09:24 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Jan 28 01:09:32 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: 1.0.2 and msvcr71.dll In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Tony Meyer] > I will get a 1.0.3 done today, ASAP. I have a 1.0.3 which is the same as 1.0.2 but installs msvcr71.dll (into the spambayes/bin directory) made up. Would any of you be willing to try it out and let me know if it works? It's here: Thanks! Size: 3,561,934 MD5: c621bd3dcd835949c01eb508edc763e9 GPG sig: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (MingW32) iD8DBQBB+YI/VcUzCvI/cyoRAqmfAJ9KvNHDQpbBOFi3h83KfexmGiJT2gCfZULe w6oiVnh1hd1oykLtbo7y+nA= =LVm8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- =Tony.Meyer From webmaster at arcticoffroad.com Fri Jan 28 00:52:45 2005 From: webmaster at arcticoffroad.com (Webmaster) Date: Fri Jan 28 01:17:06 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Thanks for emailing us Message-ID: Thanks for emailing Arctic Offroad. We will get with you as soon as we can, in the mean time enjoy the web site. Thanks Webmaster Arctic Offroad From pcconsultin1 at earthlink.net Fri Jan 28 02:21:55 2005 From: pcconsultin1 at earthlink.net (Will Pardy) Date: Fri Jan 28 02:21:48 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Automatic filtering Message-ID: <000901c504d7$c176b830$6400a8c0@c139206a> Thank you for your response, but... The problem is that the "Enable SpamBayes" box (General tab of the SpamBayes Manager) IS ticked. Also, the 'watched folders' list is my 'Inbox'. Nevertheless, when I open Outlook, all Spam (and Ham), are displayed in my Inbox. I then have to manually click on: Spambayes -> Filter Messages... -> and then click on 'Start Filtering' to get spambayes to perform the filtering of messages. Once I do this, spambayes filters as expected. The point is that I want spambayes to filter automatically without me having to instruct it to do so. Any help would be appreciated. Will -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 3:33 PM To: wpardy@delphipbs.com; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] How to make spambayes auto filter messages again -without retraining > How do I make spambayes automatically start filtering messages after > opening without having to manually select this option? If the "Enable SpamBayes" box (General tab of the SpamBayes Manager) is ticked, then all folders selected in the 'watched folders' list (Filtering tab of the SpamBayes Manager) will be filtered when Outlook is running. > The documentation only deals with retraining, which I do > not want to do (and cannot accomplish with any accuracy due to not > having a ham or spam folder) I'm not sure I understand this - filtering and training are quite separate. To filter, follow the steps above. If you want to train, then the best method is to just use the "Delete As Spam" and "Recover from Spam" buttons. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. William S. Pardy DELPHI/PBS Psychotherapy Billing Software Home Page: www.delphipbs.com Send an Email wpardy@delphipbs.com Phone (503) 977-3654 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050127/e93bb100/attachment.html From aoliveri at rochester.rr.com Fri Jan 28 02:25:59 2005 From: aoliveri at rochester.rr.com (Oliveri) Date: Fri Jan 28 02:27:18 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Using Spambayes with Outlook Express References: Message-ID: <003401c504d8$55a28b10$6401a8c0@oliveri2> Looks like I downloaded the correct version. However, I'm still not sure how to use this. When I click onto the spambayes icon that appears on my desktop toolbar, and click "review messages", I get the spambayes web interface, and it always says: there are no untrained messages to display. On the Status and configuration window, it says: "Database has 1 good and 0 spam- you should consider performing additional training. I obviously don't know how to get spambayes to look at my inbox! Also, I should tell you that, along with the spambayes tray icon on my desktop, there is another icon that is labeled: _pop3proxy... When I clicke on it, I received a message that said "-pop3proxyham.mbox is not a valid win32 application. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Meyer" To: "'Oliveri'" ; Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 9:19 PM Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Using Spambayes with Outlook Express > I have Outlook Express and dowloaded Spambayes. > I believe I followed the instructions on what to > do if I have a pop3 server, although I don't know > what "install a binary version" means. It means that you download a file called spambayes-1.0.1.exe, not a file called spambayes-1.0.1.zip or spambayes-1.0.1.tar.gz. You almost certainly did this. > I configured it. But when I open up the spambayes web > interface and try to do the following: > 1.Train on proxied messages: I clicked "review messages", > and got a page that said: This Page cannot be displayed" > the address on the page was http://localhost.8880/review The address was actually (colon not period), right? If not, try that. Did the page have any other information on it? If it did, could you copy the text and send it on to us? > 2.I went down to Train on a message,mboxfile or dbxfile. Note that you don't need to do this (training as you go is generally a much better way to go), although you can if you like. > I clicked "browse", chose my e-mail icon, and when I clicked > "Train as Spam", got a blank page. What do you mean by your "e-mail icon"? To use that "Train" box, you need to select a mbox or dbx file, which is where mail clients store mail. With Outlook Express this will be dbx files, and they will be hidden away somewhere like 'C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\Local Settings\Application Data\Identities\{hex stuff}\Microsoft\Outlook Express\' (that's all one extremely long path; my mailer will split it onto multiple lines). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From ta-meyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jan 28 03:02:11 2005 From: ta-meyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Jan 28 03:02:17 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] ANNOUNCE: SpamBayes release 1.0.3 Message-ID: The SpamBayes team is pleased to announce release 1.0.3 of SpamBayes. As is now usual, this is both a release of the source code and of an installation program for all Microsoft Windows users. This is a bug-fix (brown paper bag) release that fixes two problems with the 1.0.2 release. One effects all users that do not have a copy of the Microsoft msvcr71.dll file on their system, preventing installation/use, and the other is a minor display bug in the sb_server web interface. Yesterday's 1.0.2 release is no longer available (apologies to those that tried to install it). We strongly recommend that those with 1.0.2 or any sb_server/sb_imapfilter users with 1.0.1 upgrade. Details about the bugs that have been fixed in this release can be found at https://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=300483 You can get the release via the 'Download' page at http://spambayes.org/download.html Enjoy the new release and your spam-free mailbox :-) As always, thanks to everyone involved in this release. Tony. (on behalf of the SpamBayes team) --- What is SpamBayes? --- The SpamBayes project is working on developing a Bayesian (of sorts) anti-spam filter (in Python), initially based on the work of Paul Graham, but since modified with ideas from Robinson, Peters, et al. The project includes a number of different applications, all using the same core code, ranging from a plug-in for Microsoft Outlook, to a POP3 proxy, to various command-line tools. The Windows installation program will install either the Outlook add-in (for Microsoft Outlook users), or the SpamBayes server program (for all other POP3 mail client users, including Microsoft Outlook Express). All Windows users (including existing users of the Outlook add-in) are encouraged to use the installation program. If you wish to use the source-code version, you will also need to install Python - see README.txt in the source tree for more information. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jan 28 03:05:46 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Jan 28 03:06:45 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Using Spambayes with Outlook Express In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > When I click onto the spambayes icon that appears on my > desktop toolbar, and click "review messages", I get the spambayes web > interface, and it always says: there are no untrained > messages to display. If you have received mail, then it sounds like you haven't configured Outlook Express to connect to your POP3 server via SpamBayes. The instructions in FAQ 4.21 might help: > Also, I should tell you that, along with the spambayes tray icon > on my desktop, there is another icon that is labeled: _pop3proxy... This is a quirk of the 1.0.x series (it will be fixed in 1.1). _pop3proxyham.mbox and _pop3proxyspam.mbox files will be created in the 'current working directory' if you use the "Train" box on the front of the web interface (which you shouldn't need to do). You can simply delete those files. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From dbettinger at cxtec.com Fri Jan 28 03:06:49 2005 From: dbettinger at cxtec.com (Dean Bettinger) Date: Fri Jan 28 03:22:12 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: 1.0.2 and msvcr71.dll Message-ID: <25AC2CBEEFA22F49BC36DED1250EB6A8042C2BA9@cxmailx.ad.cxtec.com> Worked fine for me on my XP SP1 and W2K boxes. Dean -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 7:09 PM To: spambayes@python.org Cc: 'Dean Bettinger'; 'Coe, Bob'; 'Andrew Chase'; 'Jim Robertson'; 'Jesse Pelton'; 'Taed Wynnell'; 'Dean Taylor'; 'Kenneth Sole' Subject: RE: 1.0.2 and msvcr71.dll [Tony Meyer] > I will get a 1.0.3 done today, ASAP. I have a 1.0.3 which is the same as 1.0.2 but installs msvcr71.dll (into the spambayes/bin directory) made up. Would any of you be willing to try it out and let me know if it works? It's here: Thanks! Size: 3,561,934 MD5: c621bd3dcd835949c01eb508edc763e9 GPG sig: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (MingW32) iD8DBQBB+YI/VcUzCvI/cyoRAqmfAJ9KvNHDQpbBOFi3h83KfexmGiJT2gCfZULe w6oiVnh1hd1oykLtbo7y+nA= =LVm8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- =Tony.Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jan 28 03:51:43 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Jan 28 03:51:50 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: [spambayes-dev] Multiple Windows User Profiles In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Please note that the spambayes-dev list is for discussion about the development of spambayes itself. Questions, bugs, or problems regarding use of spambayes should be directed to the spambayes@python.org list. > Can you please explain how to install/configure the Outlook > Add-in on a Windows XP machine with multiple User Profiles? Please see the section labelled "SpamBayes is not available for all users on the machine." in the troubleshooting guide. A copy is installed with the plug-in, or you can view it online at: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jan 28 04:06:38 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Jan 28 04:06:52 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Automatic filtering In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > The problem is that the "Enable SpamBayes" box (General tab > of the SpamBayes Manager) IS ticked. Also, the 'watched folders' > list is my 'Inbox'. Nevertheless, when I open Outlook, all > Spam (and Ham), are displayed in my Inbox. > I then have to manually click on: > Spambayes -> Filter Messages... -> and then click on 'Start > Filtering' to get spambayes to perform the filtering of messages. > Once I do this, spambayes filters as expected. What does your most recent log file have in it? (SpamBayes->SpamBayes Manager->Advanced->Diagnostics->View Log). (Probably the most common reason for this would be that an invalid timer value is set. These are also on the Advanced tab - check that they are set to reasonable values (the defaults are 2.0 and 1.0). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jan 28 04:15:47 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Jan 28 04:16:17 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Sorry for pestering, but any ideas on this? Sorry I've been slow responding. Busy time trying to get 1.0.2 out (and then having to do 1.0.3). >> Filtering's fine except that both spam and ham are left in >> the INBOX. >> I can tell which is which by opening up my SUSPECT and >> UNSURE folders >> side-by-side with my INBOX, but with 300+ spam per day this >> is a bit tedious So unsure/spam mail does get copied to the unsure/spam folders, but the originals are left undeleted in the inbox? Are they definitely not marked as deleted? (Some mailers show all mail, including that marked for deletion). If so, then to diagnose this I probably need a copy of the IMAP conversation. To get that, run sb_imapfilter.py with "-i4" and save the output somewhere. Then EDIT IT TO REMOVE YOUR USERNAME AND PASSWORD from the top and send it to me/the list. >> Sometimes it does delete the spam from the INBOX, but never when >> there's a big batch (first thing in the morning). When >> there's only a dozen or so incoming, it may work properly, but >> only sometimes. I guess if it sometimes does delete it, then it's probably not a display issue (unless your mailer is doing an expunge/purge and getting rid of the copies). [...] > > don't know where to find my logs, if there are any. Any 'log' type information is just output to the console, so if you're running in a console window, then it will be there, otherwise it goes nowhere. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From dht01 at pacbell.net Fri Jan 28 05:09:40 2005 From: dht01 at pacbell.net (Dean Taylor) Date: Fri Jan 28 05:11:16 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: 1.0.2 msvcr71.dll In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c504ef$32beb120$6500a8c0@taylor.lan.com> I tried installing 1.0.3, after uninstalling 1.0.2 of course, and it still doesn't work. The buttons still appear in Outlook even after uninstalling. Any ideas? Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 4:09 PM To: spambayes@python.org Cc: 'Dean Bettinger'; 'Coe, Bob'; 'Andrew Chase'; 'Jim Robertson'; 'Jesse Pelton'; 'Taed Wynnell'; 'Dean Taylor'; 'Kenneth Sole' Subject: RE: 1.0.2 and msvcr71.dll [Tony Meyer] > I will get a 1.0.3 done today, ASAP. I have a 1.0.3 which is the same as 1.0.2 but installs msvcr71.dll (into the spambayes/bin directory) made up. Would any of you be willing to try it out and let me know if it works? It's here: Thanks! Size: 3,561,934 MD5: c621bd3dcd835949c01eb508edc763e9 GPG sig: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (MingW32) iD8DBQBB+YI/VcUzCvI/cyoRAqmfAJ9KvNHDQpbBOFi3h83KfexmGiJT2gCfZULe w6oiVnh1hd1oykLtbo7y+nA= =LVm8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- =Tony.Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jan 28 05:46:40 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Jan 28 05:46:45 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: 1.0.2 msvcr71.dll In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I tried installing 1.0.3, after uninstalling 1.0.2 of course, > and it still doesn't work. Hmm. Perhaps this problem wasn't related to the mscvr7.dll problem (the symptoms were different). So does the install appear to go correctly and then the buttons in Outlook simply don't work? If so, could you check to see if Outlook has disabled the plug-in if you are using 2002 or 2003 (Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items)? If not, then there ought to be a log. It gets put in the temp directory; with XP this is C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\Local Settings\Temp; earlier versions of Windows tend to have it somewhere like C:\Windows\Temp. > The buttons still appear in Outlook even after uninstalling. Any ideas? The buttons still being there after uninstalling is a very old bug that we simply haven't addressed yet. See FAQ 3.16: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From hans at pobox.com Fri Jan 28 07:16:50 2005 From: hans at pobox.com (Hans Henderson) Date: Fri Jan 28 07:17:32 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Sorry No worries at all Tony, thanks for your help (and your past work, and your ongoing coding!) > So unsure/spam mail does get copied to the unsure/spam folders, but the originals are left undeleted in the inbox? Exactly. > Are they definitely not marked as deleted? Yes. My mailer shows messages MFD with a red, strikethrough font. I can sit there and watch the flagging process, duplicates being made, then deleted, copies going into the suspect/unsure/ham folders, etc. But 99% of the time there is a full set of all three types left in the inbox. >> Sometimes it does delete the spam from the INBOX, but never when there's a big batch (first thing in the morning). When there's only a dozen or so incoming, it may work properly, but only sometimes. > I guess if it sometimes does delete it, then it's probably not a display issue (unless your mailer is doing an expunge/purge and getting rid of the copies). No, it's not. I was going to add that for the last dozen passes, it hasn't deleted any messages at all, but this morning it did work once, with about 40 spam, but an hour later it left 25 new ones in the inbox (along with two suspect and one ham). >> don't know where to find my logs, if there are any. > Any 'log' type information is just output to the console, so if you're running in a console window, then it will be there, otherwise it goes nowhere. There there aren't any error/exception messages showing during my regular runs, no differences that I can see between the times the messages do get deleted and the times they don't. > I probably need a copy of the IMAP conversation. To get that, run sb_imapfilter.py with "-i4" and save the output somewhere. Then EDIT IT TO REMOVE YOUR USERNAME AND PASSWORD from the top and send it to me/the list. ============================= FYI, here's the batch file I use to run SB. I end it by just closing the window when it's between cycles. --- D: cd "D:\Data\SpamBayes\" "C:\Program Files\SpamBayes\scripts\sb_imapfilter.py" -c -t -v -l 5 exit --- Here's the output from with "-i4 >temp.txt" added to the above: === >From the redirected text file: --- SpamBayes IMAP Filter Version 0.5 (November 2004) and engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004). Loading database D:\Data\SpamBayes\hammie.db... Done. Training Training ham folder SENT ..... 0 trained. Training ham folder Spambayes/SBTr_ham 0 trained. Training spam folder Spambayes/SBTr_spam 0 trained. Training took 0.1100 seconds, 0 messages were trained Classifying *.*.*.*.*.*. Classified 0 ham, 6 spam, and 0 unsure. Classifying took 2.0000 seconds. === >From the console (looks like it's just the tail end of it, hope that's enough - if not, please tell me another way to capture the output): --- 09:53.88 < * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1096726907] UID Validity 09:53.90 < * OK [UIDNEXT 11154] Predicted next UID 09:53.90 < * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)] Settable me ssage flags 09:53.90 < DMPL66 OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed. 09:53.90 > DMPL67 UID SEARCH (UNDELETED HEADER X-Spambayes-MailId "1106892593-2") 09:53.93 < * SEARCH 09:53.93 < DMPL67 OK SEARCH complete. 09:53.93 > DMPL68 UID SEARCH RECENT 09:53.96 < * SEARCH 09:53.96 < DMPL68 OK SEARCH complete. 09:53.96 > DMPL69 UID SEARCH ALL 09:53.98 < * SEARCH 11145 11146 11147 11148 11149 11150 11151 11152 11153 09:53.98 < DMPL69 OK SEARCH complete. 09:53.98 > DMPL70 SELECT INBOX 09:53.98 < * 21 EXISTS 09:53.98 < * 0 RECENT 09:53.98 < * FLAGS (\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered) 09:53.98 < * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1095696076] UID Validity 09:53.98 < * OK [UIDNEXT 45404] Predicted next UID 09:53.98 < * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)] Settable message flags 09:53.98 < DMPL70 OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed. 09:53.98 > DMPL71 UID FETCH 45398 RFC822.HEADER 09:53.98 < * 16 FETCH (UID 45398 RFC822.HEADER {1544} 09:53.98 read literal size 1544 09:53.98 < ) 09:53.98 < DMPL71 OK UID FETCH complete. 09:54.01 > DMPL72 UID FETCH 45398 (BODY.PEEK[]) 09:54.01 < * 16 FETCH (UID 45398 BODY[] {18756} 09:54.01 read literal size 18756 09:54.01 < ) 09:54.01 < DMPL72 OK UID FETCH complete. 09:54.01 > DMPL73 UID FETCH 45398 (FLAGS INTERNALDATE) 09:54.01 < * 16 FETCH (UID 45398 FLAGS () INTERNALDATE "28-Jan-2005 00:50:36 -0500") 09:54.01 < DMPL73 OK UID FETCH complete. 09:54.02 > DMPL74 APPEND INBOX "28-Jan-2005 00:50:36 -0500" {18786} 09:54.02 < + Ready to receive 18786 bytes 09:54.02 write literal size 18786 09:54.04 < * 22 EXISTS 09:54.04 < * OK [UIDNEXT 45405] Predicted next UID 09:54.04 < DMPL74 OK APPEND complete. 09:54.04 > DMPL75 UID STORE 45398 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted \Seen) 09:54.04 < DMPL75 OK UID STORE complete. 09:54.04 untagged responses dump: EXISTS: "21" "22" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)" READ-WRITE: "" UIDNEXT: "45404" "45405" FLAGS: "(\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)" UIDVALIDITY: "1095696076" RECENT: "0" 09:54.07 > DMPL76 NOOP 09:54.07 < DMPL76 OK NOOP complete. 09:54.07 > DMPL77 UID SEARCH (UNDELETED HEADER X-Spambayes-MailId "1106892594") 09:54.09 < * SEARCH 09:54.09 < DMPL77 OK SEARCH complete. 09:54.09 > DMPL78 UID SEARCH RECENT 09:54.10 < * SEARCH 09:54.10 < DMPL78 OK SEARCH complete. 09:54.10 > DMPL79 UID SEARCH ALL 09:54.10 < * SEARCH 45383 45384 45385 45386 45387 45388 45389 45390 45391 45392 45393 45394 45395 45396 45397 45398 45399 5400 45401 45402 45403 45404 09:54.10 < DMPL79 OK SEARCH complete. 09:54.18 > DMPL80 UID FETCH 45404 (FLAGS INTERNALDATE) 09:54.18 < * 22 FETCH (UID 45404 FLAGS () INTERNALDATE "28-Jan-2005 00:50:36 -0500") 09:54.18 < DMPL80 OK UID FETCH complete. 09:54.20 > DMPL81 APPEND "Spambayes/SB_suspect" "28-Jan-2005 00:50:36 -0500" {19942} 09:54.20 < + Ready to receive 19942 bytes 09:54.20 write literal size 19942 09:54.20 < DMPL81 OK APPEND complete. 09:54.20 > DMPL82 UID STORE 45404 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted \Seen) 09:54.21 < DMPL82 OK UID STORE complete. 09:54.21 untagged responses dump: EXISTS: "21" "22" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)" READ-WRITE: "" UIDNEXT: "45404" "45405" FLAGS: "(\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)" UIDVALIDITY: "1095696076" RECENT: "0" 09:54.21 > DMPL83 NOOP 09:54.21 < DMPL83 OK NOOP complete. 09:54.21 > DMPL84 SELECT "Spambayes/SB_suspect" 09:54.21 < * 10 EXISTS 09:54.21 < * 0 RECENT 09:54.21 < * FLAGS (\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered) 09:54.21 < * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1096726907] UID Validity 09:54.21 < * OK [UIDNEXT 11155] Predicted next UID 09:54.24 < * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)] Settable message flags 09:54.24 < DMPL84 OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed. 09:54.24 > DMPL85 UID SEARCH (UNDELETED HEADER X-Spambayes-MailId "1106892594") 09:54.27 < * SEARCH 09:54.27 < DMPL85 OK SEARCH complete. 09:54.27 > DMPL86 UID SEARCH RECENT 09:54.32 < * SEARCH 09:54.32 < DMPL86 OK SEARCH complete. 09:54.32 > DMPL87 UID SEARCH ALL 09:54.32 < * SEARCH 11145 11146 11147 11148 11149 11150 11151 11152 11153 11154 09:54.32 < DMPL87 OK SEARCH complete. 09:54.32 > DMPL88 SELECT INBOX 09:54.32 < * 22 EXISTS 09:54.32 < * 0 RECENT 09:54.32 < * FLAGS (\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered) 09:54.32 < * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1095696076] UID Validity 09:54.32 < * OK [UIDNEXT 45405] Predicted next UID 09:54.32 < * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)] Settable message flags 09:54.32 < DMPL88 OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed. 09:54.32 > DMPL89 UID FETCH 45399 RFC822.HEADER 09:54.32 < * 17 FETCH (UID 45399 RFC822.HEADER {1708} 09:54.32 read literal size 1708 09:54.32 < ) 09:54.35 < DMPL89 OK UID FETCH complete. 09:54.35 > DMPL90 UID FETCH 45399 (BODY.PEEK[]) 09:54.35 < * 17 FETCH (UID 45399 BODY[] {2223} 09:54.35 read literal size 2223 09:54.35 < ) 09:54.35 < DMPL90 OK UID FETCH complete. 09:54.35 > DMPL91 UID FETCH 45399 (FLAGS INTERNALDATE) 09:54.35 < * 17 FETCH (UID 45399 FLAGS () INTERNALDATE "28-Jan-2005 00:50:30 -0500") 09:54.35 < DMPL91 OK UID FETCH complete. 09:54.37 > DMPL92 APPEND INBOX "28-Jan-2005 00:50:30 -0500" {2224} 09:54.37 < + Ready to receive 2224 bytes 09:54.37 write literal size 2224 09:54.37 < * 23 EXISTS 09:54.37 < * OK [UIDNEXT 45406] Predicted next UID 09:54.37 < DMPL92 OK APPEND complete. 09:54.37 > DMPL93 UID STORE 45399 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted \Seen) 09:54.40 < DMPL93 OK UID STORE complete. 09:54.40 untagged responses dump: EXISTS: "22" "23" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)" READ-WRITE: "" UIDNEXT: "45405" "45406" FLAGS: "(\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)" UIDVALIDITY: "1095696076" RECENT: "0" 09:54.40 > DMPL94 NOOP 09:54.40 < DMPL94 OK NOOP complete. 09:54.40 > DMPL95 UID SEARCH (UNDELETED HEADER X-Spambayes-MailId "1106892594-2") 09:54.42 < * SEARCH 09:54.42 < DMPL95 OK SEARCH complete. 09:54.42 > DMPL96 UID SEARCH RECENT 09:54.43 < * SEARCH 09:54.43 < DMPL96 OK SEARCH complete. 09:54.43 > DMPL97 UID SEARCH ALL 09:54.45 < * SEARCH 45383 45384 45385 45386 45387 45388 45389 45390 45391 45392 45393 45394 45395 45396 45397 45398 45399 45400 45401 45402 45403 45404 45405 09:54.45 < DMPL97 OK SEARCH complete. 09:54.49 > DMPL98 UID FETCH 45405 (FLAGS INTERNALDATE) 09:54.49 < * 23 FETCH (UID 45405 FLAGS () INTERNALDATE "28-Jan-2005 00:50:30 -0500") 09:54.49 < DMPL98 OK UID FETCH complete. 09:54.51 > DMPL99 APPEND "Spambayes/SB_suspect" "28-Jan-2005 00:50:30 -0500" {3258} 09:54.51 < + Ready to receive 3258 bytes 09:54.51 write literal size 3258 09:54.52 < DMPL99 OK APPEND complete. 09:54.52 > DMPL100 UID STORE 45405 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted \Seen) 09:54.52 < DMPL100 OK UID STORE complete. 09:54.52 untagged responses dump: EXISTS: "22" "23" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)" READ-WRITE: "" UIDNEXT: "45405" "45406" FLAGS: "(\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)" UIDVALIDITY: "1095696076" RECENT: "0" 09:54.52 > DMPL101 NOOP 09:54.52 < DMPL101 OK NOOP complete. 09:54.52 > DMPL102 SELECT "Spambayes/SB_suspect" 09:54.52 < * 11 EXISTS 09:54.52 < * 0 RECENT 09:54.52 < * FLAGS (\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered) 09:54.52 < * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1096726907] UID Validity 09:54.52 < * OK [UIDNEXT 11156] Predicted next UID 09:54.56 < * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)] Settable message flags 09:54.56 < DMPL102 OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed. 09:54.56 > DMPL103 UID SEARCH (UNDELETED HEADER X-Spambayes-MailId "1106892594-2") 09:54.59 < * SEARCH 09:54.59 < DMPL103 OK SEARCH complete. 09:54.59 > DMPL104 UID SEARCH RECENT 09:54.62 < * SEARCH 09:54.62 < DMPL104 OK SEARCH complete. 09:54.62 > DMPL105 UID SEARCH ALL 09:54.62 < * SEARCH 11145 11146 11147 11148 11149 11150 11151 11152 11153 11154 11155 09:54.62 < DMPL105 OK SEARCH complete. 09:54.62 > DMPL106 SELECT INBOX 09:54.62 < * 23 EXISTS 09:54.62 < * 0 RECENT 09:54.62 < * FLAGS (\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered) 09:54.62 < * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1095696076] UID Validity 09:54.62 < * OK [UIDNEXT 45406] Predicted next UID 09:54.62 < * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)] Settable message flags 09:54.62 < DMPL106 OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed. 09:54.62 > DMPL107 UID FETCH 45400 RFC822.HEADER 09:54.63 < * 18 FETCH (UID 45400 RFC822.HEADER {1503} 09:54.63 read literal size 1503 09:54.63 < ) 09:54.65 < DMPL107 OK UID FETCH complete. 09:54.65 > DMPL108 UID FETCH 45400 (BODY.PEEK[]) 09:54.65 < * 18 FETCH (UID 45400 BODY[] {1759} 09:54.65 read literal size 1759 09:54.65 < ) 09:54.65 < DMPL108 OK UID FETCH complete. 09:54.67 > DMPL109 UID FETCH 45400 (FLAGS INTERNALDATE) 09:54.67 < * 18 FETCH (UID 45400 FLAGS () INTERNALDATE "27-Jan-2005 21:58:09 -0800") 09:54.67 < DMPL109 OK UID FETCH complete. 09:54.67 > DMPL110 APPEND INBOX "27-Jan-2005 21:58:09 -0800" {1801} 09:54.67 < + Ready to receive 1801 bytes 09:54.67 write literal size 1801 09:54.68 < * 24 EXISTS 09:54.68 < * OK [UIDNEXT 45407] Predicted next UID 09:54.68 < DMPL110 OK APPEND complete. 09:54.68 > DMPL111 UID STORE 45400 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted \Seen) 09:54.68 < DMPL111 OK UID STORE complete. 09:54.68 untagged responses dump: EXISTS: "23" "24" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)" READ-WRITE: "" UIDNEXT: "45406" "45407" FLAGS: "(\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)" UIDVALIDITY: "1095696076" RECENT: "0" 09:54.71 > DMPL112 NOOP 09:54.71 < DMPL112 OK NOOP complete. 09:54.71 > DMPL113 UID SEARCH (UNDELETED HEADER X-Spambayes-MailId "1106892594-3") 09:54.73 < * SEARCH 09:54.73 < DMPL113 OK SEARCH complete. 09:54.73 > DMPL114 UID SEARCH RECENT 09:54.76 < * SEARCH 09:54.76 < DMPL114 OK SEARCH complete. 09:54.76 > DMPL115 UID SEARCH ALL 09:54.76 < * SEARCH 45383 45384 45385 45386 45387 45388 45389 45390 45391 45392 45393 45394 45395 45396 45397 45398 45399 45400 45401 45402 45403 45404 45405 45406 09:54.76 < DMPL115 OK SEARCH complete. 09:54.81 > DMPL116 UID FETCH 45406 (FLAGS INTERNALDATE) 09:54.81 < * 24 FETCH (UID 45406 FLAGS () INTERNALDATE "27-Jan-2005 21:58:09 -0800") 09:54.81 < DMPL116 OK UID FETCH complete. 09:54.81 > DMPL117 APPEND "Spambayes/SB_suspect" "27-Jan-2005 21:58:09 -0800"{2823} 09:54.81 < + Ready to receive 2823 bytes 09:54.81 write literal size 2823 09:54.82 < DMPL117 OK APPEND complete. 09:54.82 > DMPL118 UID STORE 45406 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted \Seen) 09:54.82 < DMPL118 OK UID STORE complete. 09:54.82 untagged responses dump: EXISTS: "23" "24" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)" READ-WRITE: "" UIDNEXT: "45406" "45407" FLAGS: "(\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)" UIDVALIDITY: "1095696076" RECENT: "0" 09:54.82 > DMPL119 NOOP 09:54.82 < DMPL119 OK NOOP complete. 09:54.82 > DMPL120 SELECT "Spambayes/SB_suspect" 09:54.82 < * 12 EXISTS 09:54.82 < * 0 RECENT 09:54.82 < * FLAGS (\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered) 09:54.85 < * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1096726907] UID Validity 09:54.85 < * OK [UIDNEXT 11157] Predicted next UID 09:54.85 < * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)] Settable message flags 09:54.85 < DMPL120 OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed. 09:54.85 > DMPL121 UID SEARCH (UNDELETED HEADER X-Spambayes-MailId "1106892594-3") 09:54.88 < * SEARCH 09:54.88 < DMPL121 OK SEARCH complete. 09:54.88 > DMPL122 UID SEARCH RECENT 09:54.92 < * SEARCH 09:54.92 < DMPL122 OK SEARCH complete. 09:54.92 > DMPL123 UID SEARCH ALL 09:54.93 < * SEARCH 11145 11146 11147 11148 11149 11150 11151 11152 11153 11154 11155 11156 09:54.93 < DMPL123 OK SEARCH complete. 09:54.93 > DMPL124 LOGOUT 09:54.93 < * BYE IMAP4rev1 server terminating connection. 09:54.93 BYE response: IMAP4rev1 server terminating connection. 09:54.93 < DMPL124 OK LOGOUT completed. --- From su_yu at jltasia.com Fri Jan 28 08:55:00 2005 From: su_yu at jltasia.com (su_yu@jltasia.com) Date: Fri Jan 28 08:55:14 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Exception 0x80004005 (Unspecified error) Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: spambayes2.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 3841 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050128/5638b57b/spambayes2.obj From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Fri Jan 28 13:45:30 2005 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Fri Jan 28 13:45:45 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Why does the program put SPAM-ALERT on the subjectlinefor emails not detected as spam. Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F500339387B@SPIKE.city> I'll elaborate on that a bit, since we have an upstream spam filter and I know a bit about how it works. The filter uses its algorithms to generate a spam score (similar to what Spambayes does), and the administrator is allowed to set two cutoff values: a higher one above which incoming messages are thrown in the bit bucket and a lower one above which a tag is placed in the Subject line. The tags are helpful to us (as a sanity check on the cutoff values we've chosen) and to the users, who might want to request whitelisting of a particular address or site (which we'lll do if we think the effect will be limited to that user). Bob MIS Department, City of Cambridge 831 Massachusetts Ave, Cambridge MA 02139 ? 617-349-4217 ? fax 617-349-6165 > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces@python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Tony Meyer > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:09 PM > To: smillwee@securtest.com; spambayes@python.org > Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Why does the program put SPAM-ALERT on the > subjectlinefor emails not detected as spam. > > > > Why does the program put SPAM-ALERT on the subject line > > for emails not detected as spam. > > It looks like you are using Microsoft Outlook (and therefore presumably the > SpamBayes Outlook plug-in). If that is the case, then SpamBayes does not > put anything at all in the subject line. > > ..., the (overwhelmingly) most obvious answer to the question is that SpamBayes is not the one that is doing this. It is most likely that someone upstream (your ISP, your organisation, etc) is doing some sort of filtering and adding the subject tag. If they are making mistakes, then you'll have to talk to them about that! From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Fri Jan 28 14:32:09 2005 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Fri Jan 28 14:32:11 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: 1.0.2 msvcr71.dll Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5022CD06@SPIKE.city> The trick is not to uninstall. Just blast the new version in over the old one. > -----Original Message----- > From: Dean Taylor [mailto:dht01@pacbell.net] > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:10 PM > To: 'Tony Meyer'; spambayes@python.org > Cc: 'Dean Bettinger'; Coe, Bob; 'Andrew Chase'; 'Jim Robertson'; > 'Jesse Pelton'; 'Taed Wynnell'; 'Kenneth Sole' > Subject: RE: 1.0.2 msvcr71.dll > > > I tried installing 1.0.3, after uninstalling 1.0.2 of course, and it still > doesn't work. The buttons still appear in Outlook even after uninstalling. > Any ideas? > > Thanks! From savgw at architelpartners.com Fri Jan 28 15:36:45 2005 From: savgw at architelpartners.com (savgw@architelpartners.com) Date: Fri Jan 28 15:36:47 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Virus found in a message you sent Message-ID: <20050128143645.A1BCC1E4004@bag.python.org> A virus was found in a message sent by this account. --- Scan information follows --- Result: Virus Detected Virus Name: W32.Netsky.P@mm File Attachment: id04009.zip Attachment Status: deleted --- Original message information follows --- From: spambayes@python.org To: info@edgate.com Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:37:56 -0600 Subject: ßdo0ßi4grjj40j09gjijgpüdé Message-Id: <200501281436.j0SEaKnW009710@mail3.edgate.com> Received: from BlackHole.architelpartners.com ([10.10.10.17]) by avmg1.architelpartners.com (SAVSMTP 3.1.0.29) with SMTP id M2005012808292630116 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:29:26 -0600 From mail at duckpondwebs.com Fri Jan 28 16:05:06 2005 From: mail at duckpondwebs.com (Tom Connor) Date: Fri Jan 28 16:05:54 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes download In-Reply-To: <20050128110057.272F51E4078@bag.python.org> Message-ID: <002b01c5054a$c04cbae0$2d8a0fce@n0a1z5> Today, and yesterday, I have not been able to download the latest version (1.03) of spambayes. I only get 15KB when the download seems to complete. Anyone else having this problem. Thanks, Tom From kenny.pitt at gmail.com Fri Jan 28 17:39:03 2005 From: kenny.pitt at gmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Fri Jan 28 17:39:12 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Spabayes download In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <41fa6aad.33c0ca1d.388b.0d48@smtp.gmail.com> Monica.dbmarbella.com wrote: > I have had your Spambayes program for a long time on several machines. > The program is great I think. Now, something has happened to one of my > computers, the program doesn't work. I have tried to uninstall it > many times and to re-install it again. Every time I try to install it > says at the end of the installation that " an application of > MSVCR71.dll" was not found and it recommends to re-install it again > but I don't get any where. What is the SpamBayes version number that you are trying to install? The 1.0.2 version was just released and hasn't been thoroughly tested on non-developer machines. If you are installing 1.0.2, then try downloading and installing the 1.0.1 version instead. Please let us know whether or not this solves your problem so that we can update the 1.0.2 installer if needed. -- Kenny Pitt From pcconsultin1 at earthlink.net Fri Jan 28 18:48:49 2005 From: pcconsultin1 at earthlink.net (Will Pardy) Date: Fri Jan 28 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Automatic filtering when Outlook starts problem Message-ID: <000201c50561$9fbe69b0$6400a8c0@c139206a> Still no luck. Here is my log: Warning: option experimental_ham_spam_imbalance_adjustment in section Classifier is deprecated Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\will\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\will\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' Bayes database initialized with 1656 spam and 208 good messages SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0.1 (November 2004) starting (with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004)) on Windows 5.1.2600 (Service Pack 2) using Python 2.3.4 (#53, May 25 2004, 21:17:02) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Archive Folders/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Personal Folders/Junk E-mail' Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer Previous coorespondence: > The problem is that the "Enable SpamBayes" box (General tab of the > SpamBayes Manager) IS ticked. Also, the 'watched folders' list is my > 'Inbox'. Nevertheless, when I open Outlook, all Spam (and Ham), are > displayed in my Inbox. I then have to manually click on: > Spambayes -> Filter Messages... -> and then click on 'Start > Filtering' to get spambayes to perform the filtering of messages. > Once I do this, spambayes filters as expected. What does your most recent log file have in it? (SpamBayes->SpamBayes Manager->Advanced->Diagnostics->View Log). (Probably the most common reason for this would be that an invalid timer value is set. These are also on the Advanced tab - check that they are set to reasonable values (the defaults are 2.0 and 1.0). =Tony.Meyer William S. Pardy DELPHI/PBS Psychotherapy Billing Software Home Page: www.delphipbs.com Send an Email wpardy@delphipbs.com Phone (503) 977-3654 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050128/660645e0/attachment.htm From kenny.pitt at gmail.com Fri Jan 28 21:52:32 2005 From: kenny.pitt at gmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Fri Jan 28 21:52:41 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Automatic filtering when Outlook starts problem In-Reply-To: <000201c50561$9fbe69b0$6400a8c0@c139206a> Message-ID: <41faa609.12de3d63.05c2.0a19@smtp.gmail.com> Will Pardy wrote: > Still no luck. Here is my log: > > [snip] > SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Archive Folders/Inbox' > SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Personal Folders/Junk E-mail' Are you sure you shouldn't be filtering the Inbox in 'Personal Folders' instead of the Inbox in 'Archive Folders'? -- Kenny Pitt From POP3User at peoplepc.com Fri Jan 28 22:51:30 2005 From: POP3User at peoplepc.com (POP3 User) Date: Sat Jan 29 00:06:58 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] first item not scanned Message-ID: <000601c50583$8872b280$4249bb3f@computer> I HAVE BEEN INFORMED THAT BUTTERCUP 500 HAS NOT RECEIVED THE MONEY FOR THE BOOK FOLLOW THE RIVER. I THOUGHT IT WAS PAID FOR BY VISA. I CAN NOT REMEMBER MY OLD PASSWORD SO CANNOT CHANGE THE PASSWORD. I HAVE TRIED REPEATEDLY TO DO SO. MY USER ID IS nellz123. MY EMAIL ADDRESS IS whatever29@peoplepc. MY ADDRESS IS NELL ZOLLINGER-48 EAST 2nd NORTH-REXBURG, IDAHO 83401. ANYTHING YOU COULD DO TO HELP ME CORRECT THIS WOULD BE APPRECIATED. I WILL BE GLAD TO GIVE MY VISA NUMBER OR IF I HAVE THE ADDRESS WILL SEND A CASHIER CHECK. I DO NOT EVEN HAVE THE AMOUNT. HAVE HAD MY HUSBAND IN THE HOSPT. & DID NOT PAY ENOUGH ATTENTEION. SORRY. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050128/978f2955/attachment.htm From dht01 at pacbell.net Sat Jan 29 03:38:38 2005 From: dht01 at pacbell.net (Dean Taylor) Date: Sat Jan 29 03:40:10 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: 1.0.2 msvcr71.dll In-Reply-To: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5022CD06@SPIKE.city> Message-ID: <000401c505ab$a3661550$6500a8c0@taylor.lan.com> Hey, I re-installed and it works now! However, I had already uninstalled the previous version, so I just installed 1.0.3. Crazy. I don't know why it just stopped working like that. This was about the 3rd time I tried installing and the 3rd was the charm. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: Coe, Bob [mailto:rcoe@CambridgeMA.GOV] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 5:32 AM To: Dean Taylor Cc: spambayes@Python.org Subject: RE: 1.0.2 msvcr71.dll The trick is not to uninstall. Just blast the new version in over the old one. > -----Original Message----- > From: Dean Taylor [mailto:dht01@pacbell.net] > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:10 PM > To: 'Tony Meyer'; spambayes@python.org > Cc: 'Dean Bettinger'; Coe, Bob; 'Andrew Chase'; 'Jim Robertson'; > 'Jesse Pelton'; 'Taed Wynnell'; 'Kenneth Sole' > Subject: RE: 1.0.2 msvcr71.dll > > > I tried installing 1.0.3, after uninstalling 1.0.2 of course, and it > still doesn't work. The buttons still appear in Outlook even after > uninstalling. Any ideas? > > Thanks! From skip at pobox.com Sat Jan 29 04:50:11 2005 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Sat Jan 29 04:50:17 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Spam Bayes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16891.2035.384095.912950@montanaro.dyndns.org> Ryan> Does this spam product do ssl email? I work for Virginia Tech. Ryan> And they use ssl pop 3. Ryan, SpamBayes is not concerned with how the mail gets to your machine. It scores the mail once it's there. You're going to be better off asking questions on the mailing list, spambayes@python.org, to which I've cc'd this note. -- Skip Montanaro skip@mojam.com http://www.mojam.com/ From links at credtcardprocessinginc.com Sun Jan 30 09:46:07 2005 From: links at credtcardprocessinginc.com (Brannen Mehaffey) Date: Sun Jan 30 10:02:03 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Improve Your Website's Traffic and Ranking Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.2005013024608.04380a19@mail.creditcardprocessinginc.com> Hello, My name is Brannen Mehaffey. I am contacting you concerning your website - http://spambayes.sourceforge.net I own a site that provides Credit Card Processing - http://www.creditcardprocessinginc.com. I would like to propose a link exchange partnership with your site. My site gets thousands of visitor monthly, so a link from my site to your site will bring in a great amount amount of traffic to your site. Also, as you probably already know, it will improve the link popularity and the search engine ranking of your site. I will place a link to your site from my site at http://www.creditcardprocessinginc.com/partners.html I have used the following Title and Description for your site: Title: SpamBayes: Bayesian anti-spam classifier written in Python. Description: SpamBayes: Bayesian anti-spam classifier written in Python. I would really appreciate it if you could add a link on your website to my site in return. Please use the following information for the link: Title: Credit Card Processing & Merchant Accounts - Free Application Description: We offer credit card processing, online credit card processing, credit card processing software, credit card processing services and equipment for small business. We offer low rates, fast approval, hi-tech and wireless terminals, 24 customer service. URL: http://www.creditcardprocessinginc.com Here's the HTML source code that you can copy and paste in your site: Credit Card Processing & Merchant Accounts - Free Application - We offer credit card processing, online credit card processing, credit card processing software, credit card processing services and equipment for small business. We offer low rates, fast approval, hi-tech and wireless terminals, 24 customer service. Please email me once your have place our link. Also include the location of the link. If you link back to me, I will be happy to put your website at the top of my links page (along with other sites that link back to me). If you want me to make any changes to the Title or Description of your link in my site, or if you have any questions about my proposal, please feel free to send me an email. I look forward to hearing from you soon. Best Regards, Brannen Mehaffey http://www.creditcardprocessinginc.com From sjanusz at medusaonline.com Sun Jan 30 17:19:20 2005 From: sjanusz at medusaonline.com (Stan Janusz) Date: Sun Jan 30 18:37:20 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Upgrading issue? Message-ID: I am using SpamBayes version 0.81 and am so pleased that I never looked for an upgrade. Today, however, I thought I'd check out you guys to see what you're up to and ask a question, but noticed the current version is 1.0.3, so my question is moot. 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Parkyn robby1928@shaw.ca. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050130/bc6066cd/attachment.htm From sole at soleassociates.com Sun Jan 30 22:28:29 2005 From: sole at soleassociates.com (Kenneth Sole) Date: Sun Jan 30 22:30:18 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Duplicate messages handled differently...? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c50712$a535cf20$6901a8c0@Kitchen> Hi Tony & All, As per your suggestion below, I have been looking at the logs just after identical messages are moved to my Spam folder and also into my Review folder. When that happens, the log shows only the message that is moved to the Spam folder, as, for example: Message 'PayPal Account Security Measures' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' The message that is moved to the Review folder seems not to be mentioned in the log at all. I thought for a moment that a copy of the message was being generated on my machine, but that is not the case, as they each have distinct Message-IDs. I will add that when other messages are moved to the Review folder (that is, messages that are not received in duplicate) they appear in the log as we would expect, that is, marked "Unsure." Might you have suggestions about next steps? Very sincere thanks, -- Kenneth Sole & Associates, Inc. Box 292 Durham, New Hampshire 03824 Voice: 603-659-3169 Fax: 603-659-2248 Email: sole@soleAssociates.com URL: http://www.soleAssociates.com PGP: http://wwwkeys.ch.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE17941C6 -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Tony Meyer Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 9:04 PM To: 'Kenneth Sole'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Duplicate messages handled differently...? > I have noticed that I very frequently receive two identical > messages and that one of them is moved to my Spam folder > while the other is moved to my Review folder. > > This is no great inconvenience, but I am perplexed by this > aspect of Spambayes. To answer this we (or you) really need to see the clues for the message. Next time this happens (before you do any training on the messages) select them and choose "Show spam clues for this message" from the SpamBayes menu. That will pop up a message with the clues for the selected message. If you examine the clues, you'll probably be able to see the difference (and so hopefully understand why and what to do about it), but if you're stuck, feel free to forward a copy on to the list and we'll give it a go. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Jan 30 23:19:58 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Jan 30 23:20:04 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Upgrading issue? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > If I download and install the current version, over that much, > much older version, will I be required to begin training anew? No. All your configuration and training will be retained. (Although retraining would allow you to take advantage of any improved tokenization - but if the results are good as they are, then leaving things alone is a good idea). Note that when changing from .81 (or earlier) you should uninstall first, then install the new version (whereas for, e.g., 1.0 to 1.0.1 you can just install over the top). This still won't effect your configuration or training, however. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Jan 30 23:49:06 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Jan 30 23:49:14 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes download In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Today, and yesterday, I have not been able to download the > latest version (1.03) of spambayes. I only get 15KB when > the download seems to complete. Have you tried to use a different sourceforge download mirror? Which mirror is it that is giving you this behaviour? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Jan 30 23:54:31 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Jan 30 23:54:35 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Spam Bayes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Ryan] > Does this spam product do ssl email? I work for Virginia Tech. > And they use ssl pop 3. [Skip] > SpamBayes is not concerned with how the mail gets to your > machine. It scores the mail once it's there. You're going > to be better off asking questions on the mailing list, > spambayes@python.org, to which I've cc'd this note. I'm not sure what the context of the original message is, but as a clarifying note: Although the tokenization/classification part of SpamBayes isn't concerned which how the mail gets to your machine, some of the applications (sb_server and sb_imapfilter) are. If you're planning on using either of those (rather than the Outlook plug-in or the command line scripts like sb_filter), then delivery is a concern. The 1.0.x sb_server does *not* work over an SSL connection. In CVS HEAD sb_server partially works with SSL - the connection between SpamBayes and the server can be over can SSL connection, but the connection between SpamBayes and the mail client cannot. More support than this will be difficult to add, since it means that sb_server will need to act as a SSL server, and there isn't really any code for that in the Python standard library, so we'd have to use something else (e.g. pyOpenSSL), which has various implications. I have no intention of adding such support myself, so further progress would probably require a patch to be contributed. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From links at creditcardprocessinginc.com Mon Jan 31 00:08:49 2005 From: links at creditcardprocessinginc.com (Brannen Mehaffey) Date: Mon Jan 31 00:42:37 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Increase Your Site's Traffic and Ranking Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20050130170824.0239c68d@mail.creditcardprocessinginc.com> Hello, My name is Brannen Mehaffey. I am contacting you concerning your website - http://spambayes.sourceforge.net I own a site that provides Credit Card Processing - http://www.creditcardprocessinginc.com. I would like to propose a link exchange partnership with your site. My site gets thousands of visitor monthly, so a link from my site to your site will bring in a great amount amount of traffic to your site. Also, as you probably already know, it will improve the link popularity and the search engine ranking of your site. I will place a link to your site from my site. I have used the following Title and Description for your site: Title: SpamBayes: Bayesian anti-spam classifier written in Python. Description: SpamBayes: Bayesian anti-spam classifier written in Python. I would really appreciate it if you could add a link on your website to my site in return. Please use the following information for the link: Title: Credit Card Processing & Merchant Accounts - Free Application Description: We offer credit card processing, online credit card processing, credit card processing software, credit card processing services and equipment for small business. We offer low rates, fast approval, hi-tech and wireless terminals, 24 hr. customer service. URL: http://www.creditcardprocessinginc.com Here's the HTML source code that you can copy and paste in your site: Credit Card Processing & Merchant Accounts - Free Application - We offer credit card processing, online credit card processing, credit card processing software, credit card processing services and equipment for small business. We offer low rates, fast approval, hi-tech and wireless terminals, 24 hr. customer service. Please email me once your have place our link. Also include the location of the link. If you link back to me, I will be happy to put your website at the top of my links page (along with other sites that link back to me). If you want me to make any changes to the Title or Description of your link in my site, or if you have any questions about my proposal, please feel free to send me an email. I look forward to hearing from you soon. Best Regards, Brannen Mehaffey http://www.creditcardprocessinginc.com From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jan 31 06:49:33 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jan 31 06:49:42 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Exception 0x80004005 (Unspecified error) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > One user use spambayes 1.0.1 version on Windows 2000 sp4 and > Office 2000 sp3. However, he will see the unspecified error > when he start the outlook sometimes. He has to re do the > configuration to fix the error. It may happen again the next > day. Do you know how to fix it? Is the 'Mailbox - Mitchell, Tony - SIN551/Inbox' folder a local one or one an Exchange server? If it's local, then it would be worth running the "Inbox Repair Tool" (scanpst) over it to check it for errors. A "Detect and Repair" couldn't hurt, either. If it is on an Exchange server, you could try giving another user access to the folder (temporarily) and seeing if they can select it through SpamBayes. If the same problem occurs, then the chances are high that it's something specific to that folder (is there an Exchange repair tool?). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jan 31 06:51:03 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jan 31 06:51:11 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Toolbars don't work In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > My SpamBayes Toolbar buttons in Outlook don't work. > I have followed instructions in the troubleshooting guide, > including removing the outcmd.dat file but the toolbar > still does not work. Do messages still filter? (i.e. is SpamBayes still working, apart from the toolbar?). Could you send us a copy of your most recent log file? The troubleshooting guide explains where to find it. Have you made sure that Outlook hasn't disabled the plug-in (as described in the troubleshooting guide)? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jan 31 06:54:37 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jan 31 06:54:47 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Duplicate messages handled differently...? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > As per your suggestion below, I have been looking at the logs > just after identical messages are moved to my Spam folder and > also into my Review folder. > > When that happens, the log shows only the message that is > moved to the Spam folder, as, for example: > > Message 'PayPal Account Security Measures' in 'Desktop/Inbox' > had a Spam classification of 'Yes' > > The message that is moved to the Review folder seems not to > be mentioned in the log at all. I thought for a moment that a > copy of the message was being generated on my machine, but > that is not the case, as they each have distinct Message-IDs. Is there any way that Outlook could be moving the message (a rule, for example)? It really shouldn't be possible for SpamBayes to process a message without generating the log entry. If you disable/uninstall (doesn't effect training/configuration) do any messages end up in the Review folder? If so, then something else is obviously to blame (I can't see how, but maybe a second SpamBayes instance? Or Outlook, or another plugin?). If not, then maybe it is SpamBayes somehow - but I can't think of where to even start looking in the code. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jan 31 07:10:35 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jan 31 07:10:41 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > ping. . . Sorry - I don't usually manage to have any time for SpamBayes during the weekend, and it's a public holiday here today (Monday), so I'm only in for a bit. > I can sit there and watch the flagging process, duplicates being made, > then deleted, copies going into the suspect/unsure/ham folders, etc. BTW, the 1.1 sb_imapfilter does much less of this - good mail should never need to be duplicated at all. [...] > 09:54.49 > DMPL98 UID FETCH 45405 (FLAGS INTERNALDATE) > 09:54.49 < * 23 FETCH (UID 45405 FLAGS () INTERNALDATE "28-Jan-2005 > 00:50:30 -0500") > 09:54.49 < DMPL98 OK UID FETCH complete. > 09:54.51 > DMPL99 APPEND "Spambayes/SB_suspect" "28-Jan-2005 00:50:30 > -0500" {3258} > 09:54.51 < + Ready to receive 3258 bytes > 09:54.51 write literal size 3258 > 09:54.52 < DMPL99 OK APPEND complete. > 09:54.52 > DMPL100 UID STORE 45405 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted \Seen) > 09:54.52 < DMPL100 OK UID STORE complete. [...] Strange. This all looks good - it fetches message 45405, decides that it's suspect, appends a copy to the suspect folder and stores the \Deleted and \Seen flags for the original. No errors anywhere. The other messages in the output looked the same. Two thoughts: 1. You said that one batch did work properly, so it's possible (though unlikely) that the output was for that session. You could change your batch file to include -i4 (but without the redirect) and watch it do it's work. Each time there is an APPEND there should be the two STORE lines as in the above (one asking for the STORE and one confirming that it was done). If it all appears as it should, then maybe we should try STORE'ing flags for a message manually, and seeing if that works. 2. You could give the CVS version of sb_imapfilter a go. It is improved in many ways, although it obviously hasn't been tested by as many people. It's possible that it fixes this problem, although it wouldn't be deliberately since I haven't seen this before. If you do decide to do that, then you get to get a copy of the whole spambayes package (as described on sourceforge: http://sf.net/projects/spambayes) and then run "setup.py install --force" (if you ran "setup.py install" previously). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jan 31 07:18:49 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jan 31 07:18:55 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] 1.0.1 binary + Outlook 2003 SP1 run error In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Apologies for the delay. (I've been trying to think of something to suggest, which isn't easy with this one). > Up until recently I have been using 1.0RC2 on my old PC with > Outlook 2003 SP1. It's been fine but now I'm moving to a new PC. I > installed Outlook and copied across all my settings and mail, > as well as Spambayes settings/databases. At this point I hadn't installed > Spambayes and Outlook loads fine, with the Spambayes toolbar > still in place even though the buttons do nothing. > > Then I installed 1.0.1 and tried running it. Immediately > Outlook complains that the plugin has caused a problem and asks if > I want to report it to Microsoft. Next time I run Outlook it wants me > to disable Spambayes. I looked at the Spambayes log but it only > contains two lines added at install time [spambayes1.log]: > > Registered: SpamBayes.OutlookAddin > Registration complete. > > Is this the correct log? Is there any way I can modify log > verbosity in the registry or an .ini file? That is the correct log. You can modify verbosity in the {profile name}.ini file, but there isn't any point: a log is never being created by SpamBayes (if it was, then it would have moved the registration one aside, and there would at least being the "loading database" message). If you don't get that far, then higher verbosity won't give anything either. > Since this failed attempt I have attempted uninstalling Spambayes and > Outlook, cleaned up all the files and registry entries for > both and retried the whole lot with no Spambayes configuration from the > old PC. Same crash as before. If you choose not to disable SpamBayes after Outlook says it caused a problem, does it just say it caused a problem again? Are there any more specifics in any of the error messages? (From memory, the "caused a problem" one has just about no details at all, which is really no help). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jan 31 07:20:23 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jan 31 07:20:29 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Invalid response error In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Here is a log from a SB session just a few minutes ago. What > more can I tell you? > > SpamBayes IMAP Filter Version 0.5 (November 2004) > and engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004). > > Loading database /Users/kengordon/hammie.db... Done. > Training > Training ham folder Ham > .......... 0 trained. > Training spam folder Spam > .. 0 trained. > Training took 10.8126 seconds, 0 messages were trained > Classifying > ..........................................................Inva > lid response to uid fetch header: > ('NO', ['FETCH could not complete for one or more messages']) Does this happen with every run, or was it just once? It might be tied to a specific message. If you run with -i4 it will print out the full IMAP conversation. If you can reproduce this, could you send us a copy of the last few (say 10) lines before it crashes? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jan 31 07:23:27 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jan 31 07:23:36 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Help! Imapfilter and mysql/pickle woes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > OK, I figured out the version error (I forgot to run the > setup.py install to get the libraries installed in Python), > but now I get: > > File "c:\spambayes\scripts\sb_imapfilter.py", line 367, in > _extract_fetch_data > raise BadIMAPResponseError("FETCH response", response) > __main__.BadIMAPResponseError: The command 'FETCH response' > failed to give > an OK > response. > (' UID 2992)',) > > And that one stumped me good. I tried switching the database > method, but same result either method. Do you get this every time? If so, could you run with -i4 and tell me what the last few lines before the crash is? > I fiddled with some of the mailing list settings, but even if > I had set the list to not send me my own posts, wouldn't they > show up in the digest? I don't know - I don't use a digest for any lists, so am not sure what the correct behaviour is. It's feasible that the digest is built for you personally, so your messages can be stripped. > Let's see if my changes shakes the mailing list problem loose. How has this gone? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jan 31 07:25:51 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jan 31 07:25:56 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > If you need help translating from English to French > or vice-versa, I'm fluent in languages. An offer of help is never declined! There is a partial French translation done (the Outlook dialogs are done, and the web interface is done, but the dynamic messages are not done) which could be completed (and none of the documentation is done). The best place to start is to get a copy of the latest CVS, which has all the translation work so far, and a set of translation instructions at the end of the README-DEVEL.txt file. Please feel free to ask any questions (either here or on spambayes-dev@python.org). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From hans at pobox.com Mon Jan 31 08:41:37 2005 From: hans at pobox.com (Hans Henderson) Date: Mon Jan 31 09:14:50 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for responding on a long weekend Tony, and especially for the details to help me analyse the errors myself. I will watch for messages specifically from sessions where the duplicates are left in the INBOX. I guess the 1.1 sb_imapfilter is part of the "CVS" version? (I've no idea what that means, but will make the time to research it out.) > BTW, the 1.1 sb_imapfilter does much less of this - good mail should never need to be duplicated at all. > 1. You said that one batch did work properly, so it's possible (though > unlikely) that the output was for that session. You could change your > batch file to include -i4 (but without the redirect) and watch it do it's > work. Each time there is an APPEND there should be the two STORE lines as > in the above (one asking for the STORE and one confirming that it was > done). If it all appears as it should, then maybe we should try > STORE'ing flags for a message manually, and seeing if that works. > 2. You could give the CVS version of sb_imapfilter a go. It is > improved in many ways, although it obviously hasn't been tested by as > many people. It's possible that it fixes this problem, although it > wouldn't be deliberately since I haven't seen this before. If you do > decide to do that, then you get to get a copy of the whole spambayes > package (as described on sourceforge: http://sf.net/projects/spambayes) > and then run "setup.py install --force" (if you ran "setup.py install" > previously). From hans at pobox.com Mon Jan 31 09:06:07 2005 From: hans at pobox.com (Hans Henderson) Date: Mon Jan 31 09:37:42 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > 1. You said that one batch did work properly, so it's possible (though unlikely) that the output was for that session. You could change your batch file to include -i4 (but without the redirect) and watch it do it's work. Each time there is an APPEND there should be the two STORE lines as in the above (one asking for the STORE and one confirming that it was done). OK, here's an edited screenscrape of 6 messages being processed, all of which were both copied to the SUSPECT or UNSURE folders (and left in the INBOX showing the flag for deletion status). Further copies of all six were also left in the INBOX without the delete flag. I left only the "append" section of the screen text for each message processed, except for the last one in case there's something relevant there. > If it all appears as it should, then maybe we should try STORE'ing flags for a message manually, and seeing if that works. If you think we should try that, please let me know how, I've never chatted directly with an IMAP server . Before checking out the CVS version, I will also see if there's a newer version of my IMAP server (Mercury) And thanks again for your help. . . From m.g.ross at herts.ac.uk Mon Jan 31 11:09:05 2005 From: m.g.ross at herts.ac.uk (Matt Ross) Date: Mon Jan 31 11:09:50 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] 1.0.1 binary + Outlook 2003 SP1 run error In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Apologies for the delay. (I've been trying to think of > something to suggest, which isn't easy with this one). Thanks for your response Tony. > If you choose not to disable SpamBayes after Outlook says it > caused a problem, does it just say it caused a problem again? > Are there any more specifics in any of the error messages? > (From memory, the "caused a problem" one has just about no > details at all, which is really no help). Yes it repeatedly fails with the same error if I don't disable it. The error report it gives is a stack dump and other debugging output [i.e. loaded DLLs]. I think all MS software does the same kind of reporting now. Just out of interest I tried installing Python and the source code version instead. Results were exactly the same, except for the .DLL name of the plugin being different. Regards, Matt From mail at duckpondwebs.com Mon Jan 31 14:06:04 2005 From: mail at duckpondwebs.com (Tom Connor) Date: Mon Jan 31 14:06:09 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes download In-Reply-To: <20050131061115.D44A31E4016@bag.python.org> Message-ID: <000001c50795$9ec29140$038a0fce@n0a1z5> I tired 2 mirrors; Voxel and Aleron. Each time the download page seemed to keep reloading. However, today, Jan 31, I made the attempt again and the download worked as expected, and I'm now running version 1.03. Perhaps something was corrupted in Firefox? If no one else had a problem it must have been something on my machine. Best regards, Tom > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:49:06 +1300 > From: "Tony Meyer" > Subject: RE: [Spambayes] spambayes download > To: , > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > Today, and yesterday, I have not been able to download the > > latest version (1.03) of spambayes. I only get 15KB when > > the download seems to complete. > > Have you tried to use a different sourceforge download mirror? > Which mirror > is it that is giving you this behaviour? > > =Tony.Meyer > From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Mon Jan 31 14:22:40 2005 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Mon Jan 31 14:22:43 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes download Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5022C370@SPIKE.city> You weren't the only one. As I recall, it happened to me twice with 1.0.2 and once with 1.0.3. In each case perseverance paid off, and it finally downloaded successfully. I think I was using the UNC mirror. Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces@python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Tom Connor > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 8:06 AM > To: spambayes@python.org > Subject: RE: [Spambayes] spambayes download > > > I tired 2 mirrors; Voxel and Aleron. Each time the download page seemed to > keep reloading. However, today, Jan 31, I made the attempt again and the > download worked as expected, and I'm now running version 1.03. > > Perhaps something was corrupted in Firefox? If no one else had a problem it > must have been something on my machine. > > Best regards, > > Tom > > > Message: 7 > > Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:49:06 +1300 > > From: "Tony Meyer" > > Subject: RE: [Spambayes] spambayes download > > To: , > > Message-ID: > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > > Today, and yesterday, I have not been able to download the > > > latest version (1.03) of spambayes. I only get 15KB when > > > the download seems to complete. > > > > Have you tried to use a different sourceforge download mirror? > > Which mirror > > is it that is giving you this behaviour? > > > > =Tony.Meyer > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Spambayes@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > From sjanusz at medusaonline.com Mon Jan 31 15:05:37 2005 From: sjanusz at medusaonline.com (Stan Janusz) Date: Mon Jan 31 15:20:16 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Upgrading issue? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Tony and All, Thank you very much - I appreciate your exceptionally prompt and thorough response. I did as instructed and all is well in Island Heights, NJ, USA. Stan Janusz -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 5:20 PM To: 'Stan Janusz'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Upgrading issue? Sensitivity: Confidential > If I download and install the current version, over that much, > much older version, will I be required to begin training anew? No. All your configuration and training will be retained. (Although retraining would allow you to take advantage of any improved tokenization - but if the results are good as they are, then leaving things alone is a good idea). Note that when changing from .81 (or earlier) you should uninstall first, then install the new version (whereas for, e.g., 1.0 to 1.0.1 you can just install over the top). This still won't effect your configuration or training, however. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From bbish at cincom.com Mon Jan 31 15:44:15 2005 From: bbish at cincom.com (Bish, Brian) Date: Mon Jan 31 15:44:35 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] SPAM Automatic filtering Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: spambayes1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 21262 bytes Desc: spambayes1.log Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050131/9033916a/spambayes1.obj From sole at soleassociates.com Mon Jan 31 17:52:36 2005 From: sole at soleassociates.com (Kenneth Sole) Date: Mon Jan 31 18:05:56 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Duplicate messages handled differently...? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000c01c507b5$450d4620$6801a8c0@kenneth00> Hi Tony & All, I do not believe that it is a rule problem: I have only one rule, and that moves messages from a particular address to their own folder. None of the messages with which I have had problems have that return address. But, you mentioned another instance of SpamBayes: I have two systems that read the same Outlook PST file (using Public Outlook). Each of those systems had an instance of SpamBayes. On the local machine SpamBayes sorted incoming messages, and it was on the local machine that I had the problem described below. The remote machine's instance of SpamBayes was used (only very rarely) to train on messages that were incorrectly sorted on the local machine. Though I understand nothing about the mechanism of potential interference, there is that possibility. I have left SpamBayes on the remote machine, but have disabled it by un-checking. I will run that way to see if it eliminates the problem I have been having. Sincere thanks, -- Kenneth Sole & Associates, Inc. Box 292 Durham, New Hampshire 03824 Voice: 603-659-3169 Fax: 603-659-2248 Email: sole@soleAssociates.com URL: http://www.soleAssociates.com PGP: http://wwwkeys.ch.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE17941C6 -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Tony Meyer Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 12:55 AM To: 'Kenneth Sole'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Duplicate messages handled differently...? > As per your suggestion below, I have been looking at the logs > just after identical messages are moved to my Spam folder and > also into my Review folder. > > When that happens, the log shows only the message that is > moved to the Spam folder, as, for example: > > Message 'PayPal Account Security Measures' in 'Desktop/Inbox' > had a Spam classification of 'Yes' > > The message that is moved to the Review folder seems not to > be mentioned in the log at all. I thought for a moment that a > copy of the message was being generated on my machine, but > that is not the case, as they each have distinct Message-IDs. Is there any way that Outlook could be moving the message (a rule, for example)? It really shouldn't be possible for SpamBayes to process a message without generating the log entry. If you disable/uninstall (doesn't effect training/configuration) do any messages end up in the Review folder? If so, then something else is obviously to blame (I can't see how, but maybe a second SpamBayes instance? Or Outlook, or another plugin?). If not, then maybe it is SpamBayes somehow - but I can't think of where to even start looking in the code. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From TaedN at vertical.com Mon Jan 31 20:41:28 2005 From: TaedN at vertical.com (Taed Wynnell) Date: Mon Jan 31 20:41:32 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Toolbars don't work Message-ID: <3BD425723573A340B1DC1C00D86991D105253D@svlexchange.vertical.com> This is the same issue that I'm having with both 1.02 and 1.03 (thus, it wasn't the DLL issue). 1.01 works fine. My system configuration is WinNT 4.0 SP 6a plus hotfixes and Microsoft Outlook 2002 SP 3 plus hotfixes. I set the "log file verbosity" to 3 (I don't know what the maximum value is; I can't find that documented) and re-installed 1.03, and this is all that shows up: Registered: SpamBayes.OutlookAddin Registration complete. The same log for 1.01 has lots of information in it. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jan 31 22:48:50 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jan 31 22:48:58 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes download In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Tom Connor] >> I tired 2 mirrors; Voxel and Aleron. Each time the download page >> seemed to keep reloading. [Bobe Coe] > You weren't the only one. As I recall, it happened to me > twice with 1.0.2 and once with 1.0.3. In each case > perseverance paid off, and it finally downloaded > successfully. I think I was using the UNC mirror. Ah - this is a known sourceforge problem, I believe. I happens with some releases and mirrors (not just SpamBayes). Last I heard they were still working on figuring out what the problem was. =Tony.Meyer From Harold.Vandeventer at dpra.com Mon Jan 31 23:14:16 2005 From: Harold.Vandeventer at dpra.com (Harold Vandeventer) Date: Mon Jan 31 23:16:11 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Moving spam to the junk folder Message-ID: An update to the issue of the folders not properly refreshing... it simply started working this morning. What changed: to my knowledge, there have been two Microsoft XP/SP2 "critical updates" made during this past 3 months. Go the heck figure!! ____________________________________ Harold Vandeventer Network Administrator DPRA Incorporated 200 Research Dr Manhattan, KS 66503 Voice: (785) 539-3565 ext 1026 FAX: (785) 537-0272 -----Original Message----- From: Kent, James [mailto:JJKent@avemarialaw.edu] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 11:22 PM To: Harold Vandeventer; Robert Mezzone; tameyer@ihug.co.nz; LCrosby@crosbygrp.com; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Moving spam to the junk folder I am also seeing this exact issue. I have Exchange 2003 with Outlook 2000 Clients. It started after I started pushing out Windows XP SP2. I went to one machine and did a roll back to SP1 and the issue has went away. I think it is a MS issue. Possible firewall issue. I watched the firewall log on my local pc for any hits but didn't see any. I went through and put the Exchange 2003 server on static ports. From researching the MS end, the communication back from Exchange to outlook for "refresh" is done with UDP, which the outlook client is never hearing. This is still an issue at my site. ...Jim Kent, Network Administrator Ave Maria Law School _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org on behalf of Harold Vandeventer Sent: Tue 1/25/2005 6:19 PM To: Robert Mezzone; tameyer@ihug.co.nz; LCrosby@crosbygrp.com; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Moving spam to the junk folder The display refresh is probably not related to Exchange version; I've seen it with Exchange 2000 and Exchange 2003. It is complex: I monitor two PCs, same version Windows (XP/SP2), Outlook 2003 (Cached mode or not appears unrelated), with mail folders on same Exchange Server. Upon clicking "Delete as SPAM" or "Recover from Spam" one of the PCs instantly updates the Outlook display; the other PC requires the "manual refresh" approach. Go figure! ____________________________________ Harold Vandeventer Network Administrator DPRA Incorporated 200 Research Dr Manhattan, KS 66503 Voice: (785) 539-3565 ext 1026 FAX: (785) 537-0272 _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Robert Mezzone Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 5:08 PM To: tameyer@ihug.co.nz; LCrosby@crosbygrp.com; spambayes@python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Moving spam to the junk folder This is a known issue when certain versions of Outlook and Exchange are used together. I can check the version numbers if you are interested. I bellieve it's newer versions of Outlook with older versions of Exchange, i.e. Outlook 2003 and Exchange 5.5 exhibit this behavior. You have to switch folders in order for the folder contents to refresh. The message is there, it's just not being displayed. hth. Robert -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org To: 'Louise S. Crosby' ; spambayes@python.org Sent: Tue Jan 25 17:53:46 2005 Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Moving spam to the junk folder > Since I've upgraded to Outlook 2003 and the newest > Spam Bayes, when I send an email to the Junk folder > by highlighting the email and clicking on "Remove as spam", > the email stays in the Inbox until I go to Tasks or some > other folder or to another program. Is there someplace > I need to check that I want the email moved to Junk immediately? Actually, the move is carried out immediately, but Outlook doesn't update the display. It's quite common for people to experience this with both Outlook 2002 and 2003 (always with Exchange, I think). Annoyingly, we don't know what causes this (and it didn't use to happen, and doesn't appear to be caused by something we are doing differently). We are looking into it, though, so hopefully will find a solution soon, and will include that in an upcoming release. For the moment, this doesn't actually cause any problems - your Outlook display is just slightly out of date, which quickly resolves itself. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From Harold.Vandeventer at dpra.com Mon Jan 31 23:24:11 2005 From: Harold.Vandeventer at dpra.com (Harold Vandeventer) Date: Mon Jan 31 23:26:03 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 - can't access folders of otherMailboxaccounts - Log Message-ID: I may have stumbled over a solution to this problem. The PC is WinXP/SP2 with current "critical updates." It is running Office 2003 against Exchange 2003 mail store. Outlook is configured to run in Cached mode. This MIGHT be the key. I noticed the Folder list had names such as the following: Mailbox - Mailbox - Mailbox - The key is the error occurs only for those names where "Mailbox -" is displayed. Drilling down on and to specify filtering have been successful. I modified the account to remove the entries for "Mailbox - " and "Mailbox - ", finished that wizard and then added them back. This time, the string "Mailbox -" did not appear in the Outlook folder list for name 1 and name 2. Just the name appeared. I was then successful in opening those folders to pick which folders should be filtered. ____________________________________ Harold Vandeventer Network Administrator DPRA Incorporated 200 Research Dr Manhattan, KS 66503 Voice: (785) 539-3565 ext 1026 FAX: (785) 537-0272 -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Brendon Lansdowne Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 8:38 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 - can't access folders of otherMailboxaccounts - Log Log Warning: option experimental_ham_spam_imbalance_adjustment in section Classifier is deprecated Loaded bayes database from '\\wld\dfs\staff files\brendonl\application data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' Loaded message database from '\\wld\dfs\staff files\brendonl\application data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' Bayes database initialized with 8541 spam and 886 good messages *** - message database has 9426 messages - bayes has 9427 - something is screwey SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0.1 (November 2004) starting (with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004)) on Windows 5.1.2600 (Service Pack 1) using Python 2.3.4 (#53, May 25 2004, 21:17:02) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - infobs' SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - brendonbs' SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - Brendon Lansdowne (2)' SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - Accounts' SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - Brendon Lansdowne/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - Info' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Mailbox - Brendon Lansdowne/Spam' Processing 0 missed spam in folder 'Top of Information Store' took 8.89582ms Processing 0 missed spam in folder 'Top of Information Store' took 8.07225ms Processing 0 missed spam in folder 'Top of Information Store' took 9.51182ms Processing 0 missed spam in folder 'Top of Information Store' took 9.48473ms Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer Processing 0 missed spam in folder 'Top of Information Store' took 10.7785ms FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' - (-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None, 0, -2147467259), None) The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar... Message 'RE:'RTCProd=006-892-999'sp2 issues' in 'Mailbox - Brendon Lansdowne/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Moving and spam training message 'Re: Your software' - Training on message 'Re: Your software' in 'Mailbox - Nui Krairit/Junk Suspects - trained as spam WARNING: Bayes database has 9428 messages, but training database has 9427 Message 'Inxepenisve V?lium ' in 'Mailbox - Brendon Lansdowne/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' Message 'Remote Control Hovercraft - Not Found In Stores ' in 'Mailbox - Brendon Lansdowne/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' Message 'Have we discovered the Fountain of Youth? ctt' in 'Mailbox - Brendon Lansdowne/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' Message 'Gain Up To 3+ Full Inches In Length ' in 'Mailbox - Brendon Lansdowne/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' Message 'you design it' in 'Mailbox - Brendon Lansdowne/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' Message 'ASXTradesProcessor - BS9 (Default Settings) at 192.168.1.119:7072 is DOWN' in 'Mailbox - Brendon Lansdowne/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'Rotating Databases SUMMARY report for 20041208 ' in 'Mailbox - Brendon Lansdowne/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'Why not help yourself?' in 'Mailbox - Brendon Lansdowne/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' Message 'Remote Control Hovercraft - Not Found In Stores ' in 'Mailbox - Brendon Lansdowne/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' Message 'you design it' in 'Mailbox - Brendon Lansdowne/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' Message 'you design it' in 'Mailbox - Brendon Lansdowne/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' Message ' FDA Approved' in 'Mailbox - Brendon Lansdowne/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' Message 'RE: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 - can't access folders of other Mailboxaccounts' in 'Mailbox - Brendon Lansdowne/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Best regards Brendon Lansdowne ____________________ WebLink Email: Brendon.Lansdowne@weblink.com.au Ph: +61 2 9495 8400 Fax: +61 2 9495 8401 Suite 5, Level 2, North Tower 1 Railway Street, Chatswood NSW 2067 Australia www.weblink.com.au -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 1:40 PM To: Brendon Lansdowne; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 - can't access folders of other Mailboxaccounts > I clicked the folders in Filter which did not open then I checked for > a log file by scanning for spambayes*.log on all drives and did not > find such a log. If SpamBayes is running, then it is generating a log file. Often a default search will not include hidden folders, and the temp directory (where the log is) is hidden. The simplest way to get hold of the most recent log is: 1. Open the SpamBayes Manager dialog (from the SpamBayes toolbar) 2. Click the Advanced tab. 3. Click the Diagnostics button. 4. Click the View log button. (I notice that this isn't in the troubleshooting guide for some reason...I'll update it). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html