[Spambayes] Issue with filtering Have good messages in Junk folder even with 6.5 seconds as the processing start delay
douglas cohn
douglas.cohn at inetservers.com
Fri Dec 9 19:43:12 CET 2005
Not using Exchange
Have no other Junk mail/anti spam etc that would move to junk mail. No
other utilities configured.
Good point though.
\Sorry I left off subject. Very dumb I know
-----Original Message-----
From: Jesse Pelton [mailto:jsp at PKC.com]
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 1:30 PM
To: douglas cohn; spambayes at python.org
Subject: RE: [Spambayes] (no subject)
I assume from your message headers that you're using Outlook. If not, you
can ignore everything that follows.
Is SpamBayes the only thing that could be putting messages into your Junk
folder? The messages are obviously being classified as ham, so SpamBayes
shouldn't put them there. Exchange servers can be configured to put
messages in the Junk E-mail folder, and (as far as I know) there's nothing
you can do in Outlook to prevent it.
One way to check whether SpamBayes is doing its job properly is to set up
SpamBayes with its own folders (I use "Spam" and "Spam candidates").
Don't add any rules that move messages to those folders. If anything shows
up in those folders, you'll know that SpamBayes put it there (unless you
did). Since I don't trust Exchange's filtering, I also tell SpamBayes to
watch the Junk E-mail and Junk E-mail candidates folders and move messages
where they belong.
If you're running SpamBayes 1.0.4, you'll probably find that some number of
messages remain in the Junk folders. These are messages that Exchange
considered spam but SpamBayes classified as ham. 1.0.4 can't move ham, so
they stay where Exchange put them. I've had good results with 1.1a1, which
allows the ham to be moved back to the inbox. (In fact, reviewing your
message it could be that you're already set up as I've suggested except for
this.)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spambayes-bounces+jsp=pkc.com at python.org
> [mailto:spambayes-bounces+jsp=pkc.com at python.org] On Behalf Of douglas
> cohn
> Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 12:25 PM
> To: spambayes at python.org
> Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject)
>
> For the life of me I do not understand what I need to do to prevent
> messages with a score of 0% from going into my Junkmail folder. I
> have asked this same question several times and have done everything I
> was told to do, including running a new training with more or less
> equal amounts of Ham and Spam as well as extending the lag between the
> time Spambayes kicks in before it allows Outlook filtering to work.
>
> I allow 6.5 seconds as the processing start delay and the particular
> message below has a filter set to move it to another folder. Yet it
> get placed into Junkmail instead.
>
> This happens with several of my lists as well. In that case only some
> emails do not make it to the filtered folders (many do make
> it) and those
> emails also come up with a Conbined score of 0%.
>
> I also always move the messages back into the inbox using the NOT SPAM
> button.
>
> What am I doing wrongh to have these issues.
>
> I must add that I do have hundreds of messages per day and yes
> hundreds are properly caught as spam. But at least 1 GOOD message
> with a conbined score of 0% is dropped into the Junk folder.
>
> I assume I must be doing something wrong since I have trust in the
> developers of Spam Bayes (as I believe you guys are the best). I just
> want to correct my errors to at least eliminate the messages that I
> have preset Outlook filters on. I would think 6.5 seconds is enough
> time since I pop mail every 5 minutes and only get a few messages each
> go around.
>
> If I am not being clear please ask me for whatever I need to supply
> you for more info. I have included the most recent log and the
> particular message I am referring to. The spam clues for the attached
> original message are below. I was thinking that part of the issue may
> be that the message comes from my syslog server but I expected to see
> somethingh in the clues that would cause spambayes to send it to my
> Junkmail folder.
>
> HELP PLEASE
>
> Thanks
>
> Regards
>
> Doug
>
>
>
>
>
> Combined Score: 0% (7.70335e-008)
> Internal ham score (*H*): 1
> Internal spam score (*S*): 1.54116e-011
>
> # ham trained on: 2867
> # spam trained on: 3136
>
> 38 Significant Tokens
> token spamprob #ham #spam
> 'to:addr:dcohn' 0.00600484 491 3
> 'from:addr:ddf-lab.com' 0.0119225 473 6
> 'bytes' 0.0167286 13 0
> 'skip:+ 60' 0.0180723 12 0
> 'subject:Syslog' 0.0412844 5 0
> 'message-id:@ddfserver.ddf-lab.com' 0.0423193 460 22
> '///' 0.0505618 4 0
> 'from:addr:ddfsyslog' 0.0505618 4 0
> 'folder:' 0.0652174 3 0
> 'schedule' 0.0773091 57 5
> 'archive' 0.0867513 31 3
> '00:00:06' 0.0918367 2 0
> 'subject:Archive' 0.0918367 2 0
> 'subject:Kiwi' 0.0918367 2 0
> 'fri,' 0.133636 19 3
> 'status' 0.141242 179 32
> 'file' 0.141733 289 52
> 'name:' 0.148819 137 26
> '29.47' 0.155172 1 0
> '564' 0.155172 1 0
> 'from:no real name:2**0' 0.172419 975 222
> 'destination' 0.190021 28 7
> 'date' 0.198448 237 64
> 'zip' 0.214085 61 18
> 'to:addr:ddf-lab.com' 0.226544 553 177
> 'skip:d 20' 0.22802 81 26
> 'skip:- 60' 0.234469 99 33
> 'source' 0.236064 107 36
> '2005' 0.239025 1025 352
> 'time:' 0.243133 46 16
> 'skip:w 10' 0.276085 300 125
> 'skip:l 10' 0.283797 118 51
> 'size' 0.33287 90 49
> 'new' 0.365641 863 544
> 'end' 0.386159 144 99
> 'subject:Report' 0.624668 12 22
> 'dec' 0.697494 9 23
> 'report.' 0.823856 10 52
>
> Message Stream
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> Received: from mail.ddf-lab.com [209.191.148.194] by
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> To: dcohn at ddf-lab.com
> From: ddfsyslog at ddf-lab.com
> Subject: Kiwi Syslog Archive Report
> Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 00:00:36 -0500
> Message-ID: <DDFSERVER0GhRPN04rm00005e8f at ddfserver.ddf-lab.com>
> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Dec 2005 05:00:37.0365 (UTC)
> FILETIME=[7E847A50:01C5FC7D]
> X-Declude-Sender: ddfsyslog at ddf-lab.com [209.191.148.194]
> X-Declude-Spoolname: 1344859026956.EML
> X-Declude-Scan: Score [0] at 00:00:51 on 09 Dec 2005
> X-Declude-Fail: None
> X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES->destination
> X-SmarterMail-Spam: SPF_None
> X-Rcpt-To: <douglas.cohn at inetservers.com>
>
> /// Archive Status Report ///
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Date and Time: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 00:00:06
>
> Schedule name: New Archive schedule
> Source Folder: D:\apps\Syslogd\Logs\
> Destination Folder: D:\apps\Syslogd\Dated logs\2005-12-08\
>
> +-------------------------------+------------+------+------+
> | File name: | File size | Move | Zip |
> +-------------------------------+------------+------+------+
> | WF2005-12-08.txt | 29.47 MB | OK | OK |
> | WF2005-12-09.txt | 564 Bytes | OK | OK |
> +-------------------------------+------------+------+------+
>
>
> End of report.
>
>
> All Message Tokens
> 56 unique tokens
>
> '///'
> '00:00:06'
> '2005'
> '29.47'
> '564'
> 'and'
> 'archive'
> 'bytes'
> 'cc:none'
> 'content-type:text/plain'
> 'date'
> 'dec'
> 'destination'
> 'end'
> 'file'
> 'folder:'
> 'fri,'
> 'from:addr:ddf-lab.com'
> 'from:addr:ddfsyslog'
> 'from:no real name:2**0'
> 'header:Date:1'
> 'header:From:1'
> 'header:Message-ID:1'
> 'header:Received:2'
> 'header:Return-Path:1'
> 'header:Subject:1'
> 'header:To:1'
> 'message-id:@ddfserver.ddf-lab.com'
> 'move'
> 'name:'
> 'new'
> 'reply-to:none'
> 'report'
> 'report.'
> 'schedule'
> 'sender:none'
> 'size'
> 'skip:+ 60'
> 'skip:- 60'
> 'skip:d 20'
> 'skip:l 10'
> 'skip:w 10'
> 'source'
> 'status'
> 'subject: '
> 'subject:Archive'
> 'subject:Kiwi'
> 'subject:Report'
> 'subject:Syslog'
> 'time:'
> 'to:2**0'
> 'to:addr:dcohn'
> 'to:addr:ddf-lab.com'
> 'to:no real name:2**0'
> 'x-mailer:none'
> 'zip'
>
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