From ljw674t at smsu.edu Thu Dec 2 00:28:16 2004 From: ljw674t at smsu.edu (Wright, Lyle J) Date: Thu Dec 2 00:28:24 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] It all started with SP2 Message-ID: <4170477726671041983398A3D169E68FC4CC87@mercury.WESTPLAINS.SMSU.EDU> Mr. Tony - thanks for your help. I followed all of your direction below, and the problem persists. I have included all 4 log files below, and log 2 shows where I classified a phishing msg as Spam by clicking on the SpamBayes toolbar button. It performed the operation, but also shut down Outlook as described before. When I opened Outlook, the msg was correctly put in the Spam folder. Also if I try to use the down arrow in the SpamBayes toolbar to change the configuration it closed Outlook. There are no error messages during any of these operations. I ran a 'detect and repair' on Outlook prior to all of the activity below, just in case there was something lurking there, but it didn't seem to make a difference. Here are the log files if that helps. They are beyond my technical skills, but I am game to try something else if you have any other ideas. (Yes, I'd love to stop using Outlook, but that's the standard in my organization, and switching is not an option, nor is going to an earlier version) SpamBayes4-Log Unregistered: SpamBayes.OutlookAddin SpamBayes3-Log Registered: SpamBayes.OutlookAddin Registration complete. SpamBayes2-Log Warning: option experimental_ham_spam_imbalance_adjustment in section Classifier is deprecated Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\ljw674t\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\ljw674t\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' Bayes database initialized with 577 spam and 215 good messages SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0.1 (November 2004) starting (with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004)) on Windows 5.1.2600 (Service Pack 2) using Python 2.3.4 (#53, May 25 2004, 21:17:02) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - Wright, Lyle J/IPM_SUBTREE/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Lyle's PC/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Mailbox - Wright, Lyle J/IPM_SUBTREE/Spam' Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer Creating new SpamBayes toolbar to host our buttons Message 'Springfield Staff Mtg' in 'Mailbox - Wright, Lyle J/IPM_SUBTREE/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Moving and spam training message 'Official information for all Washington Mutual clients' - Training on message 'Official information for all Washington Mutual clients' in 'Mailbox - Wright, Lyle J/IPM_SUBTREE/Possible Spam - trained as spam SpamBayes1-Log Warning: option experimental_ham_spam_imbalance_adjustment in section Classifier is deprecated Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\ljw674t\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\ljw674t\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' Bayes database initialized with 578 spam and 215 good messages SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0.1 (November 2004) starting (with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004)) on Windows 5.1.2600 (Service Pack 2) using Python 2.3.4 (#53, May 25 2004, 21:17:02) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - Wright, Lyle J/IPM_SUBTREE/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Lyle's PC/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Mailbox - Wright, Lyle J/IPM_SUBTREE/Spam' Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer Thanks - Lyle -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 9:22 PM To: Wright, Lyle J; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] It all started with SP2 > I've been using it successfully for over a year and once Microsoft SP2 > was installed it quit working. Was it definitely immediately after SP2 was installed, and not just at a similar time? > Now, SpamBayes loads correctly, assigns > Spam values correctly, puts messages in the "Spam" and "Possible Spam" > folders correctly, but if I try to access any functions, it > performs the function but then it also shuts down Outlook. When does the shutdown occur? After the action, or before? If you click the drop-down list, does it appear, and the shutdown occur when you select an item, or not appear? When Outlook shuts down, does it give any sort of error message? Is there any message from Outlook when you open it again? > In the log file below, I recovered a message from 'Possible Spam' folder, > and it performed the function, but then shut down Outlook. > * the version of Windows you are using-Window XP Version 2002-SP2 > * the version of SpamBayes - Version 1.0 > * any log files. - see below [...] The problem with this (and with 956834, which is probably caused by the same thing) is that there's no indication of an error occurring at all, which makes it very difficult to try and figure out what's causing it. Is Outlook completely up-to-date? Have you tried running scanpst over any pst files? (Unlikely to be related, but can't hurt to be sure). Do you have any other Outlook plug-ins? Any other Outlook troubles before this? I might try building a test version of the plug-in that uses a temporary toolbar (we did this once, a long time back) rather than a permanent one, and see if that has any effect. Would you be willing to download an installer for that test version and give that a go? (It wouldn't be any different in any other way and you could just reinstall the regular one if it didn't have any effect). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From michael at kimballpottery.com Thu Dec 2 05:06:40 2004 From: michael at kimballpottery.com (Michael Kimball) Date: Thu Dec 2 05:08:15 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] email evades Spambayes In-Reply-To: <41AE8DBA.8020708@kimballpottery.com> References: <41ADDEDC.4030600@kimballpottery.com> <41AE8DBA.8020708@kimballpottery.com> Message-ID: <41AE94D0.4080504@kimballpottery.com> Michael Kimball wrote: > Well trying to 'Get' my mail before SpamBayes could get fully loaded > didn't do anything. All the email I got was properly filtered. > > But when I 'got' some more just now (Thunderbird had been open since > about 3:00 PM) the following email wasn't filtered: > > > From - Wed Dec 01 22:08:10 2004 > X-Account-Key: account1 > X-UIDL: UID844-1100919104 > X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 > X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 > Return-Path: > Delivered-To: 337-michael@kimballpottery.com > Received: (qmail 29782 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2004 00:46:06 -0000 > Received: from user-69-1-1-122.knology.net (69.1.1.122) > by admin.webinmotion.ca with SMTP; 2 Dec 2004 00:46:05 -0000 > Received: from 153.2.112.178 by 69.1.1.122; Thu, 02 Dec 2004 01:40:36 +0100 > Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > Hmmmph. Dunno what happened there. the last half of my message got lost! Especially the -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.4 - Release Date: 11/30/2004 part. Basically said I see nothing pertinent in the log, just a lot of 'placing' & 'Flushing', with some 'adding' & 'storing'. However, since I sent it, I realised that all the messages that snuck in under the radar were 1. spam and 2. just headers, no content, no subject. Is it possible that because they are so short they are being handed off so quickly that SpamBayes just sees them as part of the previuos message, that it is still processing? Hmmm. Next time this happens I'll have to remember to check the times and see which email came in just ahead of the 'sneaky' one, and which came in just after. I wonder if the low-flyer's headers Have been processed by SB, but as part of the preceeding email's headers?? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.4 - Release Date: 11/30/2004 From jeroenbreedveld at gmail.com Thu Dec 2 09:21:09 2004 From: jeroenbreedveld at gmail.com (Jeroen Breedveld) Date: Thu Dec 2 09:21:13 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Training empty messages problem Message-ID: <8d73e70b04120200217154b11e@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, I'm using the spambayes plugin for Outlook and loving it. In my eyes there's only one problem with it, it doesn't seem to learn from empty message I receive even though I receive a lot of those which I all have to manually mark as spam. With emtpy messages I mean without subject, body and sender (at least Outlook doesn't display it). I understand that because of the way spambayes learns from the content of mails that it doesn't learn anything from those mails but isn't there any way around this? Thanks in advance, Jeroen jeroenbreedveld@xs4all.nl From Cornelia.Lechner at eads.com Thu Dec 2 12:49:17 2004 From: Cornelia.Lechner at eads.com (Lechner, Cornelia, HRI3) Date: Thu Dec 2 12:49:21 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Information Message-ID: Hello, is spambayes also available for Lotus Notes? Best Regards Cornelia Lechner -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041202/aa6b38e8/attachment.htm From skip at pobox.com Thu Dec 2 15:06:44 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Thu Dec 2 15:06:27 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Information In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16815.8564.620406.210987@montanaro.dyndns.org> Cornelia> is spambayes also available for Lotus Notes? You can use the POP3 proxy or the IMAP filter with Lotus Notes. Skip From michael at kimballpottery.com Thu Dec 2 15:40:50 2004 From: michael at kimballpottery.com (Michael Kimball) Date: Thu Dec 2 15:42:32 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] email evades Spambayes In-Reply-To: <41AE94D0.4080504@kimballpottery.com> References: <41ADDEDC.4030600@kimballpottery.com> <41AE8DBA.8020708@kimballpottery.com> <41AE94D0.4080504@kimballpottery.com> Message-ID: <41AF2972.2040207@kimballpottery.com> Here are three emails, one that wasn't processed by SpamBayes and the one received before and the one received after. Just in case the sneaky one is being processed by Spambayes as part of the content of the earlier one (passed to SpamBayes by AVG before SB has finished the earlier one). The time I say it is received is what shows in the 'Date' column of my email client: Thunderbird, and that would have to be the time received by mail.kimballpottery.com, since I didn't 'Get' this batch until after 8:00 AM today. I notice none of the date and timestamps in the headers correspond exactly. So I may actually be looking at the wrong ones. I really don't know in which order they are processed by AVG, or by SpamBayes. I have cut and pasted the 'View Source' of these, and I notice it is NOT identical to the 'Show all headers' view of the email itself. Is there someway to paste the actual emails into a post like this? 'Forward' doesn't do it, since I can only forward one email at a time. The AVG footer for incoming mail shows in all three, but the sneaky one doesn't have an "X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.0.289 [265.4.4]" header. Could AVG be passing it off before it has written it's own header? Or is there some way to 'lock' the headers so AVG can't write a new header? ???And I see in the SpamBayes 'Review Messages' that not all the headers are reproduced there either??? The 'X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail...' doesn't show up there. What's that about? I don't see anything in the spambayes logs other than lots and lots of 'placing', 'Flushing', 'adding' and 'storing' This is the 'sneaky one. It shows as received at 5:20 From - Thu Dec 02 08:23:45 2004 X-Account-Key: account1 X-UIDL: UID871-1100919104 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 337-michael@kimballpottery.com Received: (qmail 26580 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2004 10:25:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO 206.47.128.155) (218.149.114.139) by admin.webinmotion.ca with SMTP; 2 Dec 2004 10:25:02 -0000 X-Message-Info: DHWKX+frq92+vcn+B+97/210673500056414 Received: (qmail 72107 invoked by uid 3); Thu, 02 Dec 2004 05:21:32 -0500 Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 09:20:32 -0100 Received: from courtesan.bknvbktjebkg@awemail.com ([144.60.0.218]) by yihm54-vi43.bknvbktjebkg@awemail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.0[4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.4 - Release Date: 11/30/2004 The next one, received at 5:51 From - Thu Dec 02 08:23:39 2004 X-Account-Key: account1 X-UIDL: UID862-1100919104 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 337-michael@kimballpottery.com Received: (qmail 15545 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2004 07:00:46 -0000 Received: from adsl-69-106-199-107.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net (HELO silver-wolf.com) (69.106.199.107) by admin.webinmotion.ca with SMTP; 2 Dec 2004 07:00:46 -0000 Message-ID: Reply-To: "forex invest" From: "forex invest" To: "user" Subject: New Overseas Business Opportunity Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 08:51:34 -0200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4922.1500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4922.1500 X-Spambayes-Classification: unsure X-Spambayes-Spam-Probability: 0.88 X-Spambayes-Evidence: '*H*': 0.04; '*S*': 0.80; 'report:': 0.09; 'banks,': 0.16; 'movements': 0.16; 'web': 0.25; 'address:': 0.26; 'used': 0.27; 'how': 0.30; 'bottom': 0.32; 'free': 0.37; 'from': 0.38; 'find': 0.40; 'out': 0.62; 'world': 0.65; 'profits': 0.65; 'secrets': 0.71; 'our': 0.71; 'url:index': 0.74; 'to:addr:kimballpottery.com': 0.78; 'to:addr:michael': 0.79; 'world.': 0.79; 'investment': 0.80; 'profit': 0.84; 'euro': 0.84; 'from:addr:silver-wolf.com': 0.84; 'url:prime': 0.84; 'header:Received:2': 0.86; 'subject:Business': 0.93; 'economic': 0.97 X-Spambayes-MailId: 1101993819 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.0.289 [265.4.4] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii (I stripped out the content. MK) -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.4 - Release Date: 11/30/2004 And the one received before the sneaky one, received at 5:02 From - Thu Dec 02 08:23:44 2004 X-Account-Key: account1 X-UIDL: UID870-1100919104 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 337-michael@kimballpottery.com Received: (qmail 22290 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2004 10:03:26 -0000 Received: from frink.w3.org (128.30.52.16) by mail.webinmotion.ca with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 2 Dec 2004 10:03:26 -0000 Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CZnnk-0006eN-Pe for www-amaya-dist@listhub.w3.org; Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:03:04 +0000 Received: from bart.w3.org ([128.30.52.40]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CZnnk-0006dj-Ck for www-amaya@listhub.w3.org; Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:03:04 +0000 Received: from uucp.udac.net ([193.44.79.50]) by bart.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CZnnk-0005X4-15 for www-amaya@w3.org; Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:03:04 +0000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by uucp.udac.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with UUCP id iB2A31O00667 for www-amaya@w3.org; Thu, 2 Dec 2004 11:03:01 +0100 Received: from dumburk.home.udac.net (dumburk.udac.se [193.44.77.203]) by popcorn.udac.se (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA03016 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 2004 11:00:27 +0100 Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.0.20041202110050.02f6e0f0@popcorn.udac.se> X-Sender: ricke@popmail.udac.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 11:02:39 +0100 To: www-amaya@w3.org From: Lars Bruzelius Received-SPF: none (bart.w3.org: domain of Lars.Bruzelius@home.udac.net does not designate permitted sender hosts) X-Original-To: www-amaya@w3.org Subject: Leading minus sign in table cell X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/6.1.2.0.0.20041202110050.02f6e0f0@popcorn.udac.se Resent-From: www-amaya@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7562 X-Loop: www-amaya@w3.org Sender: www-amaya-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: www-amaya-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:03:04 +0000 X-Spambayes-Classification: ham X-Spambayes-Spam-Probability: 0.00 X-Spambayes-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'amaya': 0.05; 'subject:table': 0.05; 'telephone:': 0.09; 'sender:addr:w3.org': 0.12; 'sender:addr:www-amaya-request': 0.12; 'to:addr:w3.org': 0.12; 'to:addr:www-amaya': 0.12; '+46': 0.16; '174,': 0.16; '516600': 0.16; '678054': 0.16; 'bruzelius': 0.16; 'cell.': 0.16; 'email addr:udac.se': 0.16; 'email name:lars.bruzelius': 0.16; 'from:addr:lars.bruzelius': 0.16; 'from:name:lars bruzelius': 0.16; 'lars': 0.16; 'message-id:@popcorn.udac.se': 0.16; 'se-751': 0.16; 'sweden.': 0.16; 'systeam': 0.16; 'telefax:': 0.16; 'udac': 0.16; 'uppsala,': 0.16; 'url:udac': 0.16; 'table': 0.16; 'code': 0.20; 'seem': 0.20; 'possible': 0.25; 'header:Received:7': 0.26; 'charset:iso-8859-1': 0.30; 'selected': 0.30; 'does': 0.34; 'from': 0.38; 'box': 0.39; 'alphabet': 0.84; 'leading': 0.98 X-Spambayes-MailId: 1101993824-2 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.0.289 [265.4.4] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed (I stripped out the content. MK) -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.4 - Release Date: 11/30/2004 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.4 - Release Date: 11/30/2004 From savgw at architelpartners.com Thu Dec 2 15:47:49 2004 From: savgw at architelpartners.com (savgw@architelpartners.com) Date: Thu Dec 2 15:47:50 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Content violation Message-ID: <20041202144749.CA4781E4006@bag.python.org> Content violation found in email message. From: spambayes@python.org To: info@mailinside.edgate.com File(s): details05.pif Matching filename: *.pif From martin.kirchner2 at gmx.de Thu Dec 2 16:16:39 2004 From: martin.kirchner2 at gmx.de (Martin Kirchner) Date: Thu Dec 2 16:16:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Thank you very much for SpamBayes and proposal for new feature Message-ID: Hello everybody! I really appreciate the you've done with SpamBayes and I'm not willing to live a single day without the filter anymore. Really, thank you VERY MUCH for that masterpiece. It's perfectly fits my needs. However there is only one thing where I would like to have a new feature but maybe it's just a bad idea. If so than I apologize right now. But I think it would be great if SpamBayes could play a sound when categorizing a mail as ham because now I'm at that point where I receive much more spam than ham and every time Outlook plays the "New Mail"-sound but it's basically just spam. So maybe my proposal can make it to be a feature in one of the coming versions. Thank you very much again Martin Kirchner -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks Randy Vesperman CAD/IT Manager Westbrook Associated Engineers, Inc. 608-5887866 Click on our logo to visit our Website! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041202/7adb65c9/attachment.htm From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Dec 3 00:49:04 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Dec 3 01:14:52 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > All of a sudden - I am told I must configure my spam folder. Please see FAQ 3.13: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Dec 3 00:48:19 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Dec 3 01:16:47 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Training empty messages problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I'm using the spambayes plugin for Outlook and loving it. In > my eyes there's only one problem with it, it doesn't seem to > learn from empty message I receive even though I receive a > lot of those which I all have to manually mark as spam. With > emtpy messages I mean without subject, body and sender (at > least Outlook doesn't display it). If you select one of those messages (before doing any training on it) and choose "show clues for this message", what do you get? Are there any clues at all? There should be a few, at least. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Dec 3 00:45:48 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Dec 3 01:16:57 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Thank you very much for SpamBayes and proposal for newfeature In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Really, thank you VERY MUCH for that masterpiece. On behalf of everyone, thanks for the kind words. > However there is only one thing where I would like > to have a new feature but maybe it's just a bad idea. > If so than I apologize right now. But I think it would > be great if SpamBayes could play a sound when > categorizing a mail as ham because now I'm at that point > where I receive much more spam than ham and every time > Outlook plays the "New Mail"-sound but it's basically > just spam. So maybe my proposal can make it to be a > feature in one of the coming versions. This is included in the (fairly long) discussion in: [ 774978 ] Hide envelope icon when only spam received Feel free to add your plea to that (where it won't get lost in list traffic). The tracker includes a link to a patch to do this, so I imagine it'll make it into 1.1, which should be ought earlish next year. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Dec 3 00:42:33 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Dec 3 01:16:59 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Information In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Cornelia Lechner] >> is spambayes also available for Lotus Notes? [Skip] > You can use the POP3 proxy or the IMAP filter with Lotus Notes. There's also the sb_notesfilter.py script (source only, not the binary). I would say that this could easily be the least used SpamBayes script, though, so I don't know how usable it is (it ought to still work, at least). It's not being actively maintained (because only one developer uses Notes and he's been inactive for a while now). There is a patch here: Those improvements will probably make it into 1.1a1. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Dec 3 05:23:48 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Dec 3 05:24:24 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] email evades Spambayes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Apologies for the delay - last couple of days have been extra busy with 'real' work] > Here are three emails, one that wasn't processed by SpamBayes and the > one received before and the one received after. I figured out a way that a message could get past SpamBayes without being touched - if it didn't have the blank line that *must* be in all messages between the headers & body (even if there are no headers or no body, the blank line is still required). In that case, SpamBayes would pass it through, thinking it was an error response. I've fixed this in CVS now, but I suspect maybe it's to blame here. (This is assuming that all the ones that slip through are this type that have no separator). Does your setup go server-AVG-spambayes-client, or server-spambayes-AVG-client? If it's the latter, this would explain it, and explain why the "Review" page doesn't have AVG headers. If the former, then because AVG adds the 'checked' message to incoming mail, I would have thought it would then be ok. I'm not positive, though. > Is there > someway to paste the actual emails into a post like this? I'm not familiar enough with the mailer to know, sorry - but that is good enough. How often do you get messages like this? If it's quite often, then I can send you a patched sb_server and see if this does stop it. =Tony.Meyer From michael at kimballpottery.com Fri Dec 3 06:27:53 2004 From: michael at kimballpottery.com (Michael Kimball) Date: Fri Dec 3 06:29:07 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] email evades Spambayes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41AFF959.9080100@kimballpottery.com> Tony Meyer wrote: > [Apologies for the delay - last couple of days have been extra busy with > 'real' work] :) > > >>Here are three emails, one that wasn't processed by SpamBayes and the >>one received before and the one received after. > > > I figured out a way that a message could get past SpamBayes without being > touched - if it didn't have the blank line that *must* be in all messages > between the headers & body (even if there are no headers or no body, the > blank line is still required). In that case, SpamBayes would pass it > through, thinking it was an error response. I've fixed this in CVS now, but > I suspect maybe it's to blame here. > > (This is assuming that all the ones that slip through are this type that > have no separator). It seems all the ones that slip through have no content or subject line, but it seems the various ways to view the message ("View Source", "View | Headers | All") 'process the info a bit, so I don't know if there is a blank line or not. > > Does your setup go server-AVG-spambayes-client, or > server-spambayes-AVG-client? If it's the latter, this would explain it, and > explain why the "Review" page doesn't have AVG headers. If the former, then > because AVG adds the 'checked' message to incoming mail, I would have > thought it would then be ok. I'm not positive, though. It is the former. But wouldn't your discovery still apply here? AVG reviews it, appends it's footer, and passes it on. SpamBayes doesn't see the blank line, assumes its an error and doesn't process it, so there is no record of it in the 'Review' page, and no SpamBayes headers? Oh. Ummm. AVG appends the footer but doesn't add the 'X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.0.289 [265.4.3]' header. Maybe AVG also figures it is an error, but doesn't do this test until after it has added the footer? I finally found my AVG logfile and tried ( :) )to review it,but it is Sindarin to me. I'll be going on the AVG forum later to see if there is anyone there who can point me to a manual describing the various entries. I did see there were some CAPA entries. > > >>Is there >>someway to paste the actual emails into a post like this? > > > I'm not familiar enough with the mailer to know, sorry - but that is good > enough. > > How often do you get messages like this? If it's quite often, then I can > send you a patched sb_server and see if this does stop it. It is starting to get quite regular now, probably at least one a day. And my wife also gets some (same setup). I'd like to hold off on the patch for a couple of days to see if I can get some info on the AVG log. There are a couple of lines in it that look as if I may have some faulty settings (but of course they aren't clearly saying that, or identifyingg the settings :) ) > > =Tony.Meyer I looked at the most recent in 'View Source'(pasted below) and when I pressed the 'down-arrow' from the Content-Type line it jumped to the line with the two dashes (starting the AVG footer). Maybe there is no blank line, even though it looks as if there are three of them. From - Thu Dec 02 23:50:15 2004 X-Account-Key: account1 X-UIDL: UID928-1100919104 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 337-michael@kimballpottery.com Received: (qmail 17899 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2004 01:12:20 -0000 Received: from user-0c93cfd.cable.mindspring.com (24.145.177.237) by admin.webinmotion.ca with SMTP; 3 Dec 2004 01:12:20 -0000 X-Message-Info: G[2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.4 - Release Date: 11/30/2004 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.4 - Release Date: 11/30/2004 From jmiles at pop.net Fri Dec 3 07:58:07 2004 From: jmiles at pop.net (John Miles) Date: Fri Dec 3 07:58:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] How to reset proxy admin password? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've been attempting to configure and run the proxy server for Win2K, but have run into some problems. When I double-click the envelope icon in the tray and enter my admin user name and password, it sends me to http://localhost:8880/review, which doesn't resolve on my system. It brings up an immediate "Page Not Found" 404-type error in IE6. I'm wondering if I'm misremembering my admin password, or perhaps made a typo when I configured it. Couple of questions: (1) does it really make sense for it to require an admin password from a local user?; and (2) how can I wipe out the proxy server's configuration and start over without hosing the database, settings, etc. I'm currently (successfully) using with the Outlook plugin? Thanks! I'd be hosed beyond belief without SpamBayes, and I'd like to be able to take advantage of it from work. :) -- john From jmiles at pop.net Fri Dec 3 08:08:01 2004 From: jmiles at pop.net (John Miles) Date: Fri Dec 3 08:08:14 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] How to reset proxy admin password? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: As a follow-up, I've managed to find bayescustomize.ini under Application Data\SpamBayes\Proxy, and the password I'm using is correct. Here's the .ini file: [html_ui] allow_remote_connections: * http_authentication: Digest http_password: (my password) http_user_name: (my user name) [pop3proxy] allow_remote_connections: 216.254.19.* [smtpproxy] allow_remote_connections: 216.254.19.* Does anything obvious seem amiss? -- john > I've been attempting to configure and run the proxy server for Win2K, but > have run into some problems. When I double-click the envelope icon in the > tray and enter my admin user name and password, it sends me to > http://localhost:8880/review, which doesn't resolve on my system. > It brings > up an immediate "Page Not Found" 404-type error in IE6. > > From jeroenbreedveld at gmail.com Fri Dec 3 09:31:57 2004 From: jeroenbreedveld at gmail.com (Jeroen Breedveld) Date: Fri Dec 3 09:32:03 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Training empty messages problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8d73e70b041203003122f7b31@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 12:48:19 +1300, Tony Meyer wrote: > If you select one of those messages (before doing any training on it) and > choose "show clues for this message", what do you get? Are there any clues > at all? There should be a few, at least. I received another 11 today in my Junk Suspects. Shouldn't those amounts on a daily basis be enough to learn from even with few token available? Here are the tokens of 4 of those messages. token spamprob #ham #spam 'from:none' 0.0760982 1743 73 'message-id:invalid' 0.269309 1748 328 'reply-to:none' 0.394226 2396 794 'header:Return-Path:1' 0.765419 743 1235 'header:Received:2' 0.892644 79 336 'to:none' 0.981772 3 94 token spamprob #ham #spam 'from:none' 0.0760982 1743 73 'message-id:invalid' 0.269309 1748 328 'reply-to:none' 0.394226 2396 794 'header:Return-Path:1' 0.765419 743 1235 'header:Received:2' 0.892644 79 336 'to:none' 0.981772 3 94 token spamprob #ham #spam 'from:none' 0.0760982 1743 73 'message-id:invalid' 0.269309 1748 328 'reply-to:none' 0.394226 2396 794 'header:Return-Path:1' 0.765419 743 1235 'header:Received:3' 0.825339 264 636 'to:none' 0.981772 3 94 token spamprob #ham #spam 'from:none' 0.0760982 1743 73 'message-id:invalid' 0.269309 1748 328 'reply-to:none' 0.394226 2396 794 'header:Received:4' 0.603393 249 193 'header:Return-Path:1' 0.765419 743 1235 'to:none' 0.981772 3 94 Thanks and regards, -- groet, Jeroen jeroenbreedveld@xs4all.nl From Administrator at bag.python.org Fri Dec 3 17:00:15 2004 From: Administrator at bag.python.org (Administrator@bag.python.org) Date: Fri Dec 3 17:04:50 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] ScanMail Message: To Sender file blocking settings matched and action taken. Message-ID: <043901c4d951$2de22430$03646464@nationalgroupmgt.com> ScanMail for Microsoft Exchange has blocked an attachment. Sender = spambayes@python.org Recipient(s) = Robert W. Lewis Subject = Mail Delivery (failure rlewis@nationalgroupmgt.com) Scanning Time = 12/03/2004 11:00:15 Action on file blocking: The attachment message.scr matches the file blocking settings. ScanMail has Moved it. The attachment was moved to C:\Program Files\Trend\Smex\Alert\message41b08d8f10a.scr_. From michael at kimballpottery.com Fri Dec 3 16:39:07 2004 From: michael at kimballpottery.com (Michael Kimball) Date: Fri Dec 3 17:23:50 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] email evades Spambayes In-Reply-To: <41AFF959.9080100@kimballpottery.com> References: <41AFF959.9080100@kimballpottery.com> Message-ID: <41B0889B.3060009@kimballpottery.com> One more thing I just noticed: At least the one I got this AM. In Thunderbird the date column shows it received at exactly the time I did a 'Get' mail. Everything else showed the time it was received at the server. I wonder if I have a 'parasite' mailer on my system? If so AVG doesn't find it. Maybe I'll try something like AdAware to see if there are any hidden programs using my PC. (Wouldn't it be a bit dumb of a parasite spammer program to keep spamming it's host?) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.5 - Release Date: 12/3/2004 From claude.hochet at wanadoo.fr Sun Dec 12 13:39:00 2004 From: claude.hochet at wanadoo.fr (Claude) Date: Sat Dec 4 13:59:14 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Elements supprimes Message-ID: Pourquoi n'est-il pas possible de choisir le dossier "Elements Supprim?s" comme dossier de destination, ce qui eviterait d'avoir ? le vider ? Bravo pour votre travail Claude Hochet -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I think need to sort through your ham/spam collections and retrain from scratch. -- Mat. From mckenzie at hbci.com Sat Dec 4 21:17:05 2004 From: mckenzie at hbci.com (Pam) Date: Sat Dec 4 21:17:19 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes Message-ID: <41B21B41.000003.01384@MCKENZIE> does spambayes work with incredimail? I no longer use out look express and I use incredimail and I wondering if I can get it to work or not. thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041204/ea2c383d/attachment.html From michael at kimballpottery.com Sun Dec 5 01:27:51 2004 From: michael at kimballpottery.com (Michael Kimball) Date: Sun Dec 5 01:29:11 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Harvest Time For Spammers In-Reply-To: <20041124112805.4849bd1e.mikec@mikecauser.com> References: <20041124112805.4849bd1e.mikec@mikecauser.com> Message-ID: <41B25607.2090500@kimballpottery.com> Just FYI: http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/columns/executive_tech/article.php/3441361 What do you think? Is this a legitimate project? Does it have any chance of reducing spam? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.5 - Release Date: 12/3/2004 From News at abelssoft.de Sun Dec 5 13:22:40 2004 From: News at abelssoft.de (Sven Abels) Date: Sun Dec 5 15:51:03 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook-Plugin: Classifying Outbox-Messages as ham? Message-ID: Is there a way to train all outgoing mails in the outbox as ham? Wouln't it make sense to use those mails to train spambayes? Best greetings, Sven From lampy at email.si Sun Dec 5 16:54:54 2004 From: lampy at email.si (Dean Lamper) Date: Sun Dec 5 15:54:53 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RoboVisitor Message-ID: <200412051554.54681.lampy@email.si> Hi all, I am sure you all heard about recent Lycos initiative to fight spammers by kind of DDoS act. Not supprising spammers faught back at them redirecting their traffic Lycos way. As Lycos was a central point of this enadavour it was easy to bring it down. It was also a potential risk because it was them who decided who to target at first place. I have rather similar idea and I am sure I'm not the only one nor the first. Spam exists because it is profitable. It will continue to exists as long it is going to be profitable. All legislation of this worlk wont change that. See drugs. Spam filters are great relief from spam but they are actually help spammers. They increase their profits by filtering out not-profitable traffic. Spam filters are mostly used by advanced users who generaly wont fall for cheap viagras, online casinos, p*** enlargment pill etc. Novice users are more prone to buy into such things and they rarely use spam filters. So by filtering spam mail the investment/return ratio for spammers is being increased. What needs to be done is make their bussines nonprofitable and they will cease to spam. This is very easy to do, just extend spam filter with an optional 'RoboVisitor', an addon that will visit all links contained in a recognized spam email a few times. It should be as unobtrusive to user as it can be. This way costs for sending mail will come back to spammers in their bandwidth bills. They will have to pay for *a lot more non-profitable* bandwidth as they used to. Best regards, Dean Lamper Slovenia From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Sun Dec 5 16:47:31 2004 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Sun Dec 5 16:47:41 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RoboVisitor Message-ID: I applaud the idea, but I see two problems with it: 1. The activity of the robo-visitor will possibly return a precious piece of information to the spammer - there is a real person behind the e-mail address (or at least, there is a mail client that reads those e-mails). So this e-mail address will now be resold to more spammers. 2. The spammers may develop their own counter-robot that detects the pattern of the robo-visitor and retaliates by sending even more spam to the e-mail address, trying to DDoS the mailbox. IMO, the spam battle must take place at the ISP level and not originate from the end-user's mail client. Amir -----Original Message----- From: Dean Lamper [mailto:lampy@email.si] Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 17:55 To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] RoboVisitor Hi all, I am sure you all heard about recent Lycos initiative to fight spammers by kind of DDoS act. Not supprising spammers faught back at them redirecting their traffic Lycos way. As Lycos was a central point of this enadavour it was easy to bring it down. It was also a potential risk because it was them who decided who to target at first place. I have rather similar idea and I am sure I'm not the only one nor the first. Spam exists because it is profitable. It will continue to exists as long it is going to be profitable. All legislation of this worlk wont change that. See drugs. Spam filters are great relief from spam but they are actually help spammers. They increase their profits by filtering out not-profitable traffic. Spam filters are mostly used by advanced users who generaly wont fall for cheap viagras, online casinos, p*** enlargment pill etc. Novice users are more prone to buy into such things and they rarely use spam filters. So by filtering spam mail the investment/return ratio for spammers is being increased. What needs to be done is make their bussines nonprofitable and they will cease to spam. This is very easy to do, just extend spam filter with an optional 'RoboVisitor', an addon that will visit all links contained in a recognized spam email a few times. It should be as unobtrusive to user as it can be. This way costs for sending mail will come back to spammers in their bandwidth bills. They will have to pay for *a lot more non-profitable* bandwidth as they used to. Best regards, Dean Lamper Slovenia _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From mark at marknadeau.com Sun Dec 5 18:33:47 2004 From: mark at marknadeau.com (Mark A. Nadeau) Date: Sun Dec 5 18:33:48 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Multiple users Message-ID: I successfully set up Spambayes with my logon. I read the FAQ's but don't understand how to set it up so that my wifes logon will have it also. ?? thanks in advance Mark From aogilvie at sohoskyway.net Sun Dec 5 19:16:03 2004 From: aogilvie at sohoskyway.net (Allan) Date: Sun Dec 5 19:19:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Setting up a new Outlook email profile Message-ID: <005c01c4daf6$7b6d30e0$6400a8c0@cworks01> I had an existing Outlook email profile and a SpamBayes database, which I had been training and building for months. When I created a new Outlook email profile I was prompted to set the folders for good and bad email addresses. I could not seem to get past this, so I defined these folders from my new email profile, which of course did not have any new email. I also had to manually create a folder for Junk E-Mail. My new email profile now does not filter junk email as previously defined in my original email profile. Did I loose everything when I was forced to enter folders for SpamBayes? Allan Ogilvie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041205/000fe475/attachment.html From jeroenbreedveld at gmail.com Sun Dec 5 22:15:57 2004 From: jeroenbreedveld at gmail.com (Jeroen Breedveld) Date: Sun Dec 5 22:16:01 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Training empty messages problem In-Reply-To: References: <8d73e70b041203003122f7b31@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8d73e70b041205131521c30f1d@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 13:09:41 +0000, Mathew Hendry wrote: > > This looks very odd - why do you have so many ham mails with no > from/reply-to lines and invalid message-ids? I think need to sort through > your ham/spam collections and retrain from scratch. > For some reason all the mails I receive from our Exchange server (local users) have "from:none" causing all those spam mails to look as ham mails. Mails I receive from my internet account do have normal from addresses. -- greetings, Jeroen jeroenbreedveld@xs4all.nl From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Dec 5 22:52:09 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Dec 5 22:52:46 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Multiple users In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I successfully set up Spambayes with my logon. I read the > FAQ's but don't understand how to set it up so that my wifes > logon will have it also. The instructions are in the troubleshooting guide (SpamBayes->Help->Troubleshooting Guide, or via the link below): (You'll need to put that URL back together again). If you don't understand any of the steps in there, please let us know where exactly you are having trouble, so we can elaborate. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Dec 5 22:54:57 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Dec 5 22:56:10 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Setting up a new Outlook email profile In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > My new email profile now does not filter junk email > as previously defined in my original email profile. > Did I loose everything when I was forced to enter > folders for SpamBayes? All the configuration for the plug-in is stored in per-profile files; the databases are not, so should be able to be still used. However, I suspect that what happened is that you used the Configuration Wizard to select the new folders, and may have run through that initialising the databases (if you just selected them via the SpamBayes Manager dialog, this would not have happened). Alternatively, did you also create a new Windows login? All the SpamBayes data is stored in a per-user directory, so if that is the case, then you should be able to copy the old database files (the FAQ has locations) to the new location. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From TJLWBECGSGWU at spammotel.com Sun Dec 5 23:51:39 2004 From: TJLWBECGSGWU at spammotel.com (Mathew Hendry) Date: Sun Dec 5 23:51:54 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Training empty messages problem References: <8d73e70b041203003122f7b31@mail.gmail.com> <8d73e70b041205131521c30f1d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 22:15:57 +0100, Jeroen Breedveld wrote: >On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 13:09:41 +0000, Mathew Hendry > wrote: >> >> This looks very odd - why do you have so many ham mails with no >> from/reply-to lines and invalid message-ids? I think need to sort through >> your ham/spam collections and retrain from scratch. > >For some reason all the mails I receive from our Exchange server >(local users) have "from:none" causing all those spam mails to look as >ham mails. Mails I receive from my internet account do have normal >from addresses. Ahh I see. Yes, internal Exchange mails have no internet headers at all. I don't know if I ran into a similar problem to yours at some point, but for a long time I've had rules running on my work account to filter internal messages into a different set of folders. They aren't seen by SpamBayes at all. -- Mat. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Dec 6 00:15:40 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Dec 6 00:16:24 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook-Plugin: Classifying Outbox-Messages as ham? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Is there a way to train all outgoing mails in the outbox as > ham? Not via the Outlook plug-in. This is covered via this feature request tracker: [ 773382 ] Add training on outgoing messages > Wouln't it make sense to use those mails to train spambayes? Not necessarily. For a start, you'd have to ignore the majority of headers, because they would not at all reflect incoming mail (unless you send yourself a lot of mail ). The main reason this has never been implemented, though, IMO, is that it's not necessary - SpamBayes learns very quickly, and is accurate with the data already available to it - adding more isn't really going to improve anything (particularly since smaller, not larger, databases are generally in favour these days). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Dec 6 00:19:09 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Dec 6 00:19:46 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Elements supprimes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Pourquoi n'est-il pas possible de choisir le dossier > "Elements Supprim?s" comme dossier de destination, ce > qui eviterait d'avoir ? le vider ? I think this means something like "why can I not use the Deleted Items folder as the Junk mail folder". If so, then FAQ 3.11 answers that: With (probably terrible) machine translated French, that is: Le probl?me avec ceci est que vous pouvez ?galement placer SpamBayes pour former tous les messages d?plac?s ? la chemise indiqu?e de Spam. Si vous placiez la chemise supprim?e d'articles comme chemise de Spam (les versions t?t de la connexion ont permis ceci), alors tous les messages que vous supprimez seriez form? comme Spam. Pour obtenir cette restriction enlev?e, you'll doivent convaincre les lotisseurs qu'il y a une mani?re de faire ceci sans personnes embrouillantes - par exemple, si nous vous laissons choisir la chemise supprim?e d'articles comme chemise de Spam, seulement si le 'incremental training' ; l'option ?tait ?teinte, les gens se d?placeraient confus pourquoi il parfois des travaux et parfois doesn't. Notez que les perspectives 2003 ont un "Junk Mail" ; la chemise qui a plusieurs des propri?t?s supprim?es des articles folder's, et vous pouvez obtenir SpamBayes pour d?placer le Spam ? cette chemise. Vous pouvez ?galement trouver un certain bon conseil dans la r?ponse ? la question au sujet d'obtenir SpamBayes pour supprimer le Spam. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Dec 6 01:09:33 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Dec 6 01:10:22 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Training empty messages problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Jeroen Breedveld] >> For some reason all the mails I receive from our Exchange server >> (local users) have "from:none" causing all those spam mails to look >> as ham mails. Mails I receive from my internet account do have normal >> from addresses. [Mathew Hendry] > Ahh I see. Yes, internal Exchange mails have no internet headers at > all. We do fake some up, though. We try and generate From:, Subject:, To: and Cc: headers from the Exchange information that is available. Mathew is right, though, in that it is these that are causing the problem - they provide a lot of evidence that mail like that is ham, which is enough to counter the few spam clues. I'm not certain that we're using the right property for the From information (we look for PR_DISPLAY_NAME_A), as messages with the Exchange server I use don't have this property. So I've checked in a change (it will appear in 1.1) to look for PR_SENDER_NAME_A if PR_DISPLAY_NAME_A isn't present (this works for me, at least). So that will help a little (when 1.1 is available, or if you run from CVS). Unfortunately, documentation about what properties are available when and exactly what each holds is pretty thin on the ground, from what I can tell. However, I'm not clear on why an invalid message-id header is a ham clue (one wouldn't be present in an Exchange message at all). Without that clue, it'd only be two ham clues (Reply-to:None and From:None). Do your Exchange messages have content? If so, then training on fewer of those would probably help. I would suggest making a backup of your databases (so you can go back if this doesn't work) and then retraining from scratch. Turn on the x-use_bigrams option, and only train on mistakes (i.e. everything in the unsure folder, all ham in the spam folder, and all ham in the spam folder). This should keep the database fairly small, but very accurate, and the From:None and Reply-to:None clues will probably be less significant. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Dec 6 01:34:19 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Dec 6 01:36:11 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > does spambayes work with incredimail? Yes. Set it up just as you would for Outlook Express, and it will work in exactly the same way. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From TJLWBECGSGWU at spammotel.com Mon Dec 6 01:46:00 2004 From: TJLWBECGSGWU at spammotel.com (Mathew Hendry) Date: Mon Dec 6 01:47:06 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Training empty messages problem References: Message-ID: <5v97r0dfbs5vij04i6975kcghcp1d9hdbh@4ax.com> On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 13:09:33 +1300, "Tony Meyer" wrote: >[Mathew Hendry] >> Ahh I see. Yes, internal Exchange mails have no internet headers at >> all. >... >We do fake some up, though. >... >I'm not certain that we're using the right property for the From information >(we look for PR_DISPLAY_NAME_A), as messages with the Exchange server I use >don't have this property. So I've checked in a change (it will appear in >1.1) to look for PR_SENDER_NAME_A if PR_DISPLAY_NAME_A isn't present (this >works for me, at least). Would it make sense to have a further fallback on a default token if nothing is found in any of the known properties, "from: exchange-unknown" or similar? That would seem to cover all bases. Which properties are available may depend on how the local admins set up the address book; I've worked at places where they maintain firstname and lastname, but don't bother to put in a separate displayname. I think Outlook displays "lastname, firstname" by default in that case. -- Mat. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Dec 6 01:59:56 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Dec 6 02:00:39 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Training empty messages problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Would it make sense to have a further fallback on a default > token if nothing is found in any of the known properties, > "from: exchange-unknown" or similar? That would seem to cover all > bases. There is a "X-Exchange-Message: true" header that gets added no matter whether any Exchange headers are found or not. One could add this header to the [Tokenizer] safe_headers option, which would mean that a token would be generated if it was present. This would just involve adding a couple of lines to the default_bayes_customize.ini file. I suppose we could modify the default one that gets installed to do this. Generally, (at least in my experience), messages that are Exchange-only are very homogeneous in content, so easily classified without any faked-up headers. It might help in the situation where there are empty messages, though, I guess. > Which properties are available may depend on how the local > admins set up the address book [...] That makes sense. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Dec 6 02:32:31 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Dec 6 02:33:10 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] How to reset proxy admin password? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > As a follow-up, I've managed to find bayescustomize.ini under > Application Data\SpamBayes\Proxy, and the password I'm using > is correct. Here's the .ini file: > > [html_ui] > allow_remote_connections: * > http_authentication: Digest > http_password: (my password) > http_user_name: (my user name) It appears that Digest authentication is broken (at least it doesn't work for me either). I've checked in fixes for this, which will appear in 1.0.2 and 1.1, or if you run from source you could replace your copy of Dibbler.py with the one from anon CVS. (Without these fixes, I don't believe it can be made to work). I found three issues: 1. The regex that Dibbler.py was using was wrong, so it would never work. I've fixed this. 2. IE 6.0 appears to give an invalid nc (nonce-count) response (it's empty, when it should be 00000001, from what RFC 2617 says). I've put in a check to see if it is blank, and if it is, replace it with 00000001 - I don't see how that could be exploited in any way. 3. Firefox 1.0 appears to give back an invalid nc response (as with IE), *and* an invalid qop response (it's empty, when it should be 'auth', again based on RFC 2617). I'm treated this like nc, inserting the correct value if necessary. Since all we're really after is the md5 bit, I again don't see how this could be exploited. If anyone out there knows something about HTTP Digest Auth and can shed light on #2 and #3 above, that would be great :) =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Dec 6 05:05:21 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Dec 6 05:07:31 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Harvest Time For Spammers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Just FYI: > http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/columns/executive_tech/articl > e.php/3441361 > What do you think? Is this a legitimate project? Only my 2c, but "yes" and > Does it have any chance of reducing spam? "no". :) I'm dubious that there's enough money to be made out of tracking down spammers and suing them to keep lawyer's/ISP's interest. Then again, NZ isn't as litigious a society as the US (reputedly) is, so maybe there is :) =Tony.Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Dec 6 05:13:45 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Dec 6 05:14:19 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Setting up a new Outlook email profile In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I see where the the database is saved, under the user's > documents and settings, but do you think that I accidently > overwrote this file? I tried not to use the wizard, but I > seemed to caught in loop when setting up another user profile > in Outlook and could not get out, so yes I did use the wizard. It's possible, yes. The default choice for the initial screen of the Wizard is to do some initial training. Even if the folders selected were empty, this would still mean that any existing database was replaced. However, if you selected either of the other choices on the initial screen, then the database shouldn't have been replaced. If you open up your data directory, the database files creation dates should indicate when they were created. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From jeroenbreedveld at gmail.com Mon Dec 6 12:06:52 2004 From: jeroenbreedveld at gmail.com (Jeroen Breedveld) Date: Mon Dec 6 12:06:54 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Training empty messages problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8d73e70b0412060306134e8359@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 13:59:56 +1300, Tony Meyer wrote: > > There is a "X-Exchange-Message: true" header that gets added no matter > whether any Exchange headers are found or not. One could add this header to > the [Tokenizer] safe_headers option, which would mean that a token would be > generated if it was present. This would just involve adding a couple of > lines to the default_bayes_customize.ini file. I suppose we could modify > the default one that gets installed to do this. This looks like the best solution for me for now. I tried looking up some information about the safe_headers option in the [Tokenizer] section but couldn't find none. What exactly is the syntax for adding this option to the tokenizer section in my Outlook.ini file in the data folder? After I've added this option I have to retrain on all of my ham and spam message? -- Thanks and regards, Jeroen jeroenbreedveld@xs4all.nl From michael at kimballpottery.com Mon Dec 6 15:32:58 2004 From: michael at kimballpottery.com (Michael Kimball) Date: Mon Dec 6 16:12:23 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Training empty messages problem In-Reply-To: <8d73e70b0412060306134e8359@mail.gmail.com> References: <8d73e70b0412060306134e8359@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <41B46D9A.2090401@kimballpottery.com> Somewhat off-topic, but I hope at least related: Is it possible for me to send and receive email to and from my wife, who uses a different profile on this same PC, without going through the mailserver? i.e. without leaving this PC? I don't use Exchange and don't plan to, nor do I plan to set up a special mail server for the sake of the few emails that woould use it. But since my AVG and SpamBayes are already using different ports on localhost I'm wondering if this idea could work. Either send to her normal address but somehow point it at the appropriate port on localhost instead of the mailserver out there on the internet, or set up an additional address for her such as barbara@localhost:5200. All this to save 30 seconds once or twice every other day. So obviously if it takes a lot to set it up it wouldn't be worth it. Thank you, Mike Kimball -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.6 - Release Date: 12/5/2004 From LCaswell at ariba.com Mon Dec 6 16:28:01 2004 From: LCaswell at ariba.com (Lisa Caswell) Date: Mon Dec 6 16:28:36 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam folder not deleting Message-ID: <9456615717BB7A4CB807D4623616E35802E0C498@us-hqmail2.ariba.com> Hi there, Something has occurred where my confirmed Spam folder is no longer automatically dumping the messages when I exit outlook. Where should I check that this happens as I have the system learning as I go and therefore as I add to this folder, I want to make sure that it's learning, but at the same time it's quite large and I need to delete it. Lisa Lisa Caswell - Global Alliance Sales | Ariba, Inc. | This Is Spend Management ________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________ 807 11th Avenue | Sunnyvale, CA 94089 | Office 650.390.1552 | cell:650.302.8004 | e-mail: lcaswell@ariba.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041206/544e5c9b/attachment.htm From kennypitt at hotmail.com Mon Dec 6 17:39:56 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Mon Dec 6 17:41:05 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RoboVisitor In-Reply-To: <200412051554.54681.lampy@email.si> Message-ID: Dean Lamper wrote: > I am sure you all heard about recent Lycos initiative to fight > spammers by kind of DDoS act. [snip] > > I have rather similar idea and I am sure I'm not the only one nor the > first. > > [snip] > > What needs to be done is make their bussines nonprofitable and they > will cease to spam. This is very easy to do, just extend spam filter > with an optional 'RoboVisitor', an addon that will visit all links > contained in a recognized spam email a few times. It should be as > unobtrusive to user as it can be. Check out "Filters that Fight Back" by Paul Graham, who also popularized the idea of using Bayesian techniques to filter spam: http://www.paulgraham.com/ffb.html The only problem with this, of course, is that by visiting the URL links in a spam message you are triggering any "web bugs" attached to the links and probably setting yourself up to receive even more spam. -- Kenny Pitt From kennypitt at hotmail.com Mon Dec 6 17:51:28 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Mon Dec 6 17:52:04 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Thank you very much for SpamBayes and proposal for newfeature In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Martin Kirchner wrote: > However there is only one thing where I would like to have a new feature > but maybe it's just a bad idea. If so than I apologize right now. But I > think it would be great if SpamBayes could play a sound when categorizing > a mail as ham because now I'm at that point where I receive much more > spam than ham and every time Outlook plays the "New Mail"-sound but it's > basically just spam. So maybe my proposal can make it to be a feature in > one of the coming versions. This has been proposed before and I submitted a patch for it a while back. Based on continued requests such as yours, we have now incorporated it into the latest source version of SpamBayes. I hope to add GUI configuration for it soon, and the feature should appear in the 1.1 version of SpamBayes. Thanks for your input! -- Kenny Pitt From postmaster at domaincharter.com.au Mon Dec 6 18:06:10 2004 From: postmaster at domaincharter.com.au (postmaster@domaincharter.com.au) Date: Mon Dec 6 18:17:33 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] MDaemon Warning - Virus Found Message-ID: The following message had attachment(s) which contained viruses: >From : spambayes@python.org To : pcerini@domaincharter.com.au Subject : Re: Hi Date : Tue, 7 Dec 2004 03:25:05 +1100 Message-ID: Attachment Virus name Action taken ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ mails9.doc .pifI-Worm.NetSky.q Removed From melaniekirkland at bellsouth.net Mon Dec 6 17:37:04 2004 From: melaniekirkland at bellsouth.net (Melanie Kirkland) Date: Mon Dec 6 19:00:04 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] HELP!!!! Message-ID: <003601c4dbb1$d879ece0$6101a8c0@youro0kwkw9jwc> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Restart Outlook. -Nicholas ________________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Melanie Kirkland Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 8:37 AM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] HELP!!!! I have a situation where I have been using SpamBayes successfully for at least 5 months or so. Then one day when I started Outlook a message popped up stating that it did not "close" correctly last time so it would have to be disabled upon startup and I could enable it again by looking in Help under Disabled Programs. No such luck. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling twice. No SpamBayes in my Outlook. Can anyone help me? I appear to have become quite dependent on it. melanie From tom at engo.com Tue Dec 7 02:43:52 2004 From: tom at engo.com (Tom Thomas) Date: Tue Dec 7 02:58:30 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Example of masking an icon displayed on an outlook toolbar button Message-ID: <20041207015829.429F91E4003@bag.python.org> I noticed you do not set a transparent mask color for your icon. Here is some code I use and have had luck with. http://www.shahine.com/omar/PermaLink,guid,6e66d8b4-4f94-4b78-bed8-9efdbf5a8 9b7.aspx Great product! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041206/338dbeb3/attachment.htm From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Dec 7 03:07:45 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Dec 7 03:08:24 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Example of masking an icon displayed on an outlooktoolbar button In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I noticed you do not set a transparent mask color > for your icon. Here is some code I use and have had luck with. > > http://www.shahine.com/omar/PermaLink,guid,6e66d8b4-4f94-4b78-bed8-9efdbf5a8 9b7.aspx Thanks for the link. However, it says that it's for Outlook 2003 only, and the plug-in works with 2000 and higher. I suppose we could do different things depending on what Outlook version is in use, but that seems a lot of work for little gain. (Patches gratefully accepted!). =Tony.Meyer From Tracey.Lucas at chc.bdospicers.com Tue Dec 7 03:19:42 2004 From: Tracey.Lucas at chc.bdospicers.com (Tracey Lucas) Date: Tue Dec 7 03:19:38 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Out of Office AutoReply: Oh God it's Message-ID: <902DF68397F9DF46A44793F25CCF975303A0F5@server01.chc.spicers.co.nz> I am on maternity leave, returning to the office in August 2004. During my absence, please contact either Ron Brooking (ron.brooking@chc.bdospicers.com), Judith Souness (judith.souness@chc.bdospicers.com) or Denise Duncan (denise.duncan@chc.bdospicers.com). Thanks, Tracey Lucas From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Dec 7 03:33:42 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Dec 7 03:34:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Training empty messages problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > This looks like the best solution for me for now. I tried > looking up some information about the safe_headers option in > the [Tokenizer] section but couldn't find none. It's not particularly easy for Outlook users to find, since there isn't generally any need for them to know. > What exactly > is the syntax for adding this option to the tokenizer section > in my Outlook.ini file in the data folder? Firstly, you need to modify the "default_bayes_customize.ini" file in the data folder, not the "Outlook.ini" one. (If there isn't an existing file (we stopped adding it by default a few versions back) then just create one with notepad or something like that). At the end of the file, add the lines: """ [Tokenizer] safe_headers:abuse-reports-to,date,errors-to,from,importance,in-reply-to,mes sage-id,mime-version,organization,received,reply-to,return-path,subject,to,u ser-agent,x-abuse-info,x-complaints-to,x-face,x-exchange-message """ Don't include the """'s, and the safe_headers line will need to be put back together into one (very long) line after my mailer splits it up. These are all the default headers, plus the additional x-exchange-message one. > After I've added > this option I have to retrain on all of my ham and spam message? It's up to you. If you do, then the token ('header:X-Exchange-Message:1') will reflect the proportion of all trained messages that are Exchange only and spam (I would imagine it'd have a very low score). If you don't, then the token will be like any other new token, and score exactly 0.5 (unused in classification). As you train new Exchange only messages, the token's score will be adjusted appropriately, until it's strong enough to be useful in classification (not long if there are barely any other tokens for a particular message). Eventually (assuming no change in email pattern) the score will approach the score that it would have had if you had done a complete retrain. Note that I'm still not sure what's causing the "message-id:invalid" token to be so strongly ham, which is also effecting the classification of these 'empty' messages. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Dec 7 04:10:04 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Dec 7 04:11:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Training empty messages problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Somewhat off-topic, but I hope at least related: > Is it possible for me to send and receive email to and from > my wife, who uses a different profile on this same PC, without > going through the mailserver? i.e. without leaving this PC? [...] > All this to save 30 seconds once or twice every other day. > So obviously if it takes a lot to set it up it wouldn't be worth it. Without installing a server or queue or something to do this, the only way I can think of is to have both users (i.e. you and your wife) have access to a separate mail file where you could put messages. This would work easily enough with Outlook, but is a bit trickier with Thunderbird (and if you're each using different mailers probably won't work at all). Steps: Create a new account in Thunderbird (say with the same settings as your regular POP account, but it doesn't matter since it'll never connect to anything). Don't tick the "download now" box at the end if you use the wizard. Set the new account to store mail in it's own top-level folder not in "Local Folders" (either in the wizard or via server settings->advanced). Set the new account to not check for new mail (three places - "check on startup" and "check every x minutes" in server settings and "check on send/receive" (or words to that effect) in server settings->advanced). Set the new account to save drafts in the inbox for the new shared account. Change the account settings (for that new account) to store mail in a folder that both users have access to. Do the same thing for the other user (pointing to the same folder). If you write a new message and save the draft (but don't send it - it doesn't even need an address), then if you log in as the other user it will be available to them in the inbox of the new shared account. Note that mail never leaves Thunderbird, so AVG and SpamBayes aren't involved at all. Don't go sending viruses or spam to each other . =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From michael at kimballpottery.com Tue Dec 7 04:31:33 2004 From: michael at kimballpottery.com (Michael Kimball) Date: Tue Dec 7 05:11:37 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Training empty messages problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41B52415.40308@kimballpottery.com> Tony Meyer wrote: >>Somewhat off-topic, but I hope at least related: >>Is it possible for me to send and receive email to and from >>my wife, who uses a different profile on this same PC, without >>going through the mailserver? i.e. without leaving this PC? > > [...] > >>All this to save 30 seconds once or twice every other day. >>So obviously if it takes a lot to set it up it wouldn't be worth it. > > > Without installing a server or queue or something to do this, the only way I > can think of is to have both users (i.e. you and your wife) have access to a > separate mail file where you could put messages. This would work easily > enough with Outlook, but is a bit trickier with Thunderbird (and if you're > each using different mailers probably won't work at all). > > Steps: > > Create a new account in Thunderbird (say with the same settings as your > regular POP account, but it doesn't matter since it'll never connect to > anything). Don't tick the "download now" box at the end if you use the > wizard. > > Set the new account to store mail in it's own top-level folder not in "Local > Folders" (either in the wizard or via server settings->advanced). > > Set the new account to not check for new mail (three places - "check on > startup" and "check every x minutes" in server settings and "check on > send/receive" (or words to that effect) in server settings->advanced). > > Set the new account to save drafts in the inbox for the new shared account. > > Change the account settings (for that new account) to store mail in a folder > that both users have access to. > > Do the same thing for the other user (pointing to the same folder). > > If you write a new message and save the draft (but don't send it - it > doesn't even need an address), then if you log in as the other user it will > be available to them in the inbox of the new shared account. > > Note that mail never leaves Thunderbird, so AVG and SpamBayes aren't > involved at all. Don't go sending viruses or spam to each other . > > =Tony.Meyer > Thanks Tony. That sounds like it might be just the thing. I'll give it a try. MK -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.6 - Release Date: 12/5/2004 From gateway.smtp at steria.fr Tue Dec 7 07:07:55 2004 From: gateway.smtp at steria.fr (gateway.smtp@steria.fr) Date: Tue Dec 7 07:08:52 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Policy Violation Message-ID: <20041207060850.B48471E4003@bag.python.org> The following message sent by this account has violated system policy: From: spambayes@python.org To: stephane.guillard@steria.fr Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 07:07:36 +0100 Subject: Re: Error in document The following violations were detected: --- Scan information follows --- Virus Name: W32.Netsky.P@mm!enc File Attachment: M2004120707073630683.mes Attachment Status: infected Virus Name: W32.Netsky.P@mm File Attachment: document_stephane.guillard.zip Attachment Status: infected Virus Name: W32.Netsky.P@mm File Attachment: document_stephane.guillard.zip/document.txt .exe Attachment Status: infected From jeroenbreedveld at gmail.com Tue Dec 7 09:40:43 2004 From: jeroenbreedveld at gmail.com (Jeroen Breedveld) Date: Tue Dec 7 10:21:09 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Training empty messages problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8d73e70b041207004062a39f9a@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 15:33:42 +1300, Tony Meyer wrote: > Note that I'm still not sure what's causing the "message-id:invalid" token > to be so strongly ham, which is also effecting the classification of these > 'empty' messages. Ok, I added the safer_headers line to default_bayes_customize.ini in my data folder and retrained on all of my ham and spam (takes about 10 minutes on my machine). When I look in my Junk mail folder those empty spam still have a spam probability of below 50%, partly caused by those "message-id:invalid" headers (sorry I didn't pick that up sooner). I looked at some Exchange mails in my inbox and all those have invalid message-id. So just like from:none, all of my internal Exchange mails have "message-id:invalid". Should we look into the configuration of our Exchange server because it seems to me that abnormalities of the mails coming from our server are circumventing your program from doing from what I think it does normally perfectly well. -- Thanks and regards, Jeroen jeroenbreedveld@xs4all.nl From jonesjo at cipower.com Tue Dec 7 17:35:02 2004 From: jonesjo at cipower.com (Joe Jones) Date: Tue Dec 7 18:01:46 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SP2 Message-ID: <64F0480236EBE84BA96722E14500FF8E88B17A@cip_pdc.cip.com> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/octet-stream Size: 1891 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041207/8c179656/attachment.obj -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041207/e604a08a/attachment.html From gateway.smtp at steria.fr Tue Dec 7 07:07:56 2004 From: gateway.smtp at steria.fr (gateway.smtp@steria.fr) Date: Tue Dec 7 20:57:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Policy Violation Message-ID: <20041207195659.239031E4007@bag.python.org> The following message sent by this account has violated system policy: From: spambayes@python.org To: stephane.guillard@steria.fr Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 07:07:26 +0100 Subject: Mail Delivery (failure stephane.guillard@steria.fr) The following violations were detected: --- Scan information follows --- Virus Name: W32.Netsky.P@mm!enc File Attachment: M2004120707072630682.mes Attachment Status: infected Virus Name: W32.Netsky.P@mm File Attachment: message.scr Attachment Status: infected --- File name Block information follows --- File Attachment: M2004120707072630682.mes/message.scr Matching file name: *.scr From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Dec 8 01:54:26 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Dec 8 01:55:10 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] retrieving a deleted spam e-mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I recently accidentally deleted a message that was not > spam and need to retrieve it. How do I do it? By "deleted" do you mean clicked the "Delete as spam" button? If so, then just open up your spam/Junk Mail folder, find the message, and click the "Recover from spam" button. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From vallille at NRCan.gc.ca Wed Dec 8 16:44:15 2004 From: vallille at NRCan.gc.ca (Vallillee, Roy) Date: Wed Dec 8 16:44:36 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Question about Spambayes Message-ID: <04121F1935DA0B439DF1E9386C93BAAE086BF8AC@s0-ott-x13.nrn.nrcan.gc.ca> Is there something I can do to get Spambayes to process my messages prior to their getting to my blackberry? Is there some sort of filter which can be set up in Blackberry to stop spam from getting to it? Thank you Roy Vallillee A/Technical Analyst CSS/IMB/TSD Natural Resources Canada 2nd Floor, 580 Booth Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0E4 Phone: (613) 995-3742 Fax: (613) 996-2953 Internet Address: Roy.Vallillee@nrcan.gc.ca __________________________________ Roy Vallillee Analyste technique/int SSI/DGI/DST Ressources naturelles Canada 580, rue Booth, 2e ?tage Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0E4 T?l?phone: (613) 995-3742 T?l?copieur: (613) 996-2953 Courriel: Roy.Vallillee@nrcan.gc.ca From brendonl at weblink.com.au Wed Dec 8 21:32:53 2004 From: brendonl at weblink.com.au (Brendon Lansdowne) Date: Wed Dec 8 21:37:27 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 - can't access folders of other Mailbox accounts Message-ID: <3BE8743BCB5459458A4E06FE568F31D68195EF@mail.wld.local> I installed Outlook 2003 and now can't access my other Mailbox accounts in the Filter tab of Spambayes. I have a Mailbox for personal, and other for support. (Exchange allows you to display other Mail Boxes accounts in Outlook.) That is I can't expand each Mail box (except the one I am logged in as) to reveal the sub folder. Also Spambayes 1.01 won't let me select the top level stating that I must select a sub folder. Previously with Outlook 2002 with I was able to nominate folders from other Mailboxes. Now with with Outlook 2003 and using Spambayes 1.01 I can only filter my personal account that I am logged into. Hence a lot of Spam now going to my other accounts. Any suggestions welcomed :( Best regards Brendon Lansdowne ____________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041209/40299195/attachment.htm From Harold.Vandeventer at dpra.com Wed Dec 8 21:55:41 2004 From: Harold.Vandeventer at dpra.com (Harold Vandeventer) Date: Wed Dec 8 21:56:23 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 - can't access folders of other Mailbox accounts Message-ID: I, too, just ran into a similar problem. In my case, a single Outlook client accesses 7 other mailboxes. All mailboxes were moved to a new Exchange Server. (Outlook was closed during the move.) Upon restarting Outlook, Spambayes will not process any folders. I've installed SB 1.0.1. Spambayes is enabled. The Help | About Outlook, Disabled Items list is empty. And like Brendon is seeing, I can't drill down on the other mailboxes to select their Inboxes for scanning. I can browse the various folders via Outlook and mark messages for "Delete as Spam" successfully. The "automatic filtering" simply won't start. ____________________________________ ? Harold Vandeventer ? Network Administrator DPRA Incorporated 200 Research Dr Manhattan, KS 66503 Voice: (785) 539-3565 ext 1026 FAX: (785) 537-0272 ________________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Brendon Lansdowne Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 2:33 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 - can't access folders of other Mailbox accounts I installed Outlook 2003 and now can't access my other Mailbox accounts in the Filter tab of Spambayes.? I have a Mailbox for personal, and other for support. (Exchange allows you to display other Mail Boxes accounts in Outlook.) ? That is I can't expand?each Mail box (except the one I? am logged in as) to reveal the sub folder.? Also? Spambayes 1.01 won't let me select the top level stating that I must select a sub folder. ? Previously with Outlook 2002 with?I was able to nominate folders from other Mailboxes.? Now with with Outlook 2003 and using Spambayes 1.01 I can only filter my personal account that I am logged into.? Hence a lot of Spam now going to my other accounts. Any suggestions welcomed :( ? ? Best regards Brendon Lansdowne? ____________________ ? From brendonl at weblink.com.au Wed Dec 8 21:42:32 2004 From: brendonl at weblink.com.au (Brendon Lansdowne) Date: Wed Dec 8 21:57:47 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] FW: Outlook 2003 - can't access folders of other Mailbox accounts Message-ID: <3BE8743BCB5459458A4E06FE568F31D68195F0@mail.wld.local> I notice that the Public Folders - Mail boxes - can be accessed by Spambayes in the Filter tab (ie in Exchange you can nominate some mailboxes to be public to all users) For Outlook 2002, Spambyes could access all Mail boxes I added to Outlook. However Spambayes with Outlook 2003 can only access my currently logged in mailbox and the Public Folder. Best regards Brendon Lansdowne ____________________ _____ From: Brendon Lansdowne Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 7:33 AM To: 'spambayes@python.org' Subject: Outlook 2003 - can't access folders of other Mailbox accounts I installed Outlook 2003 and now can't access my other Mailbox accounts in the Filter tab of Spambayes. I have a Mailbox for personal, and other for support. (Exchange allows you to display other Mail Boxes accounts in Outlook.) That is I can't expand each Mail box (except the one I am logged in as) to reveal the sub folder. Also Spambayes 1.01 won't let me select the top level stating that I must select a sub folder. Previously with Outlook 2002 with I was able to nominate folders from other Mailboxes. Now with with Outlook 2003 and using Spambayes 1.01 I can only filter my personal account that I am logged into. Hence a lot of Spam now going to my other accounts. Any suggestions welcomed :( Best regards Brendon Lansdowne ____________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041209/18002073/attachment.html From JJKent at avemarialaw.edu Wed Dec 8 22:14:42 2004 From: JJKent at avemarialaw.edu (Kent, James) Date: Wed Dec 8 22:16:24 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Refresh Issue on Exchange 2003, SB1.0.1 Message-ID: <91EC78587248DA44A26C19F05245D691C9A60E@lawmail2.avemarialaw.edu> I have an Exchange 2003 Server (windows server 2003) with a Windows 2000 domain. Clients are windows xp, sp1 and windows xp sp2. Most clients also have spambayes loaded. I just upgraded my spambayes to version 1.0.1 and the problem still persists. We have been seeing problems with Outlook 2000/XP/2003 doing refreshing on exchange folders. It is a widespread problem, more than 10 client machines. On my machine I have windows xp, sp2, Outlook xp, spambayes 1.0.1. If I go and click delete as spam on something in the suspect folder, it will take 1.5 minutes to refresh and be gone. If I click on delete as spam, then hit the f5 key (refresh) on the keyboard, the message will be gone right then. I have done some research on this, and read some earlier posts. I reviewed the windows firewall log, turned off the windows firewall anway (I didn't find any entries in my log blocking the mail server). Has anybody figured out this issue yet? SP2- Maybe, spambayes/outlook/microsoft interaction? ...Jim Kent, Network Administrator Ave Maria School of Law 3475 Plymouth Road Ann Arbor, Michigan 48105 jjkent@avemarialaw.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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No special migration to a new version of Exchange. The only change was installing Outlook 2003. Best regards Brendon Lansdowne ____________________ WebLink Email: Brendon.Lansdowne@weblink.com.au Ph: +61 2 9495 8400 Fax: +61 2 9495 8401 Suite 5, Level 2, North Tower 1 Railway Street, Chatswood NSW 2067 Australia www.weblink.com.au -----Original Message----- From: Harold Vandeventer [mailto:Harold.Vandeventer@dpra.com] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 7:56 AM To: Brendon Lansdowne; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 - can't access folders of other Mailbox accounts I, too, just ran into a similar problem. In my case, a single Outlook client accesses 7 other mailboxes. All mailboxes were moved to a new Exchange Server. (Outlook was closed during the move.) Upon restarting Outlook, Spambayes will not process any folders. I've installed SB 1.0.1. Spambayes is enabled. The Help | About Outlook, Disabled Items list is empty. And like Brendon is seeing, I can't drill down on the other mailboxes to select their Inboxes for scanning. I can browse the various folders via Outlook and mark messages for "Delete as Spam" successfully. The "automatic filtering" simply won't start. ____________________________________ ? Harold Vandeventer ? Network Administrator DPRA Incorporated 200 Research Dr Manhattan, KS 66503 Voice: (785) 539-3565 ext 1026 FAX: (785) 537-0272 ________________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Brendon Lansdowne Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 2:33 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 - can't access folders of other Mailbox accounts I installed Outlook 2003 and now can't access my other Mailbox accounts in the Filter tab of Spambayes. I have a Mailbox for personal, and other for support. (Exchange allows you to display other Mail Boxes accounts in Outlook.) ? That is I can't expand?each Mail box (except the one I? am logged in as) to reveal the sub folder.? Also? Spambayes 1.01 won't let me select the top level stating that I must select a sub folder. ? Previously with Outlook 2002 with?I was able to nominate folders from other Mailboxes.? Now with with Outlook 2003 and using Spambayes 1.01 I can only filter my personal account that I am logged into.? Hence a lot of Spam now going to my other accounts. Any suggestions welcomed :( ? ? Best regards Brendon Lansdowne ____________________ ? From kennypitt at hotmail.com Wed Dec 8 23:17:38 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Wed Dec 8 23:18:11 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes not deleting as spam In-Reply-To: <5B280B934973EE479D9619A7B1A0540190BC89@phlsrv01.phillipsearch.com> Message-ID: I'm afraid your training database has gotten corrupted. This has been a known issue for a while, but we have not been able to figure out what causes it or how to fix it. Unfortunately, the only solution is to delete the corrupted database and retrain from scratch. Open SpamBayes Manager, go to the Advanced tab, and click the "Show Data Folder" button. Leave the data folder open, but close Outlook. Now delete the files "default_bayes_database.db" and "default_message_database.db" from the data folder. Finally, re-open Outlook and go to SpamBayes Manager again. On the Default tab, make sure "Enable SpamBayes" is checked. SpamBayes should now be ready to go again, but all messages will be moved to your Unsure or Suspects folder until you have retrained on your new mail. -- Kenny Pitt _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Cheryl Smith Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 4:19 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes not deleting as spam Log file it attached. I have uninstalled and reinstalled twice. Please advise. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041208/be493ca2/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Dec 8 23:30:37 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Dec 8 23:31:12 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes not deleting as spam In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Log file it attached. I have uninstalled and reinstalled > twice. Please advise. [From log] > bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: > Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error > detected; run recovery') Unfortunately this means that your database is corrupted (and cannot be recovered, despite the wording of the error message). The only way to fix it is to retrain from scratch. FAQ 5.2 has more information. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Dec 8 23:36:35 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Dec 8 23:37:09 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: [spambayes-dev] Question about re-training SpamBayes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Kenny] > A couple of notes about training, though. [...] BTW, if you want to read (lots!) more about training ideas, check out the wiki: . Please note, too, that spambayes-dev is for discussion about the development of spambayes itself - general use questions, bug reports, and so on should be addressed to spambayes@python.org. See for more information. =Tony.Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Dec 9 01:40:53 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Dec 9 01:41:03 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 - can't access folders of other Mailboxaccounts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > That is I can't expand each Mail box (except the one I > am logged in as) to reveal the sub folder. Could you try this again (to generate the log entries) and send us a copy of your most recent log? (SpamBayes->Help->Troubleshooting Guide explains where to find the logs). Perhaps something with the MAPI has changed with Outlook 2003 that stops this working (it definitely still works with 2002). > Also Spambayes 1.01 won't let me select the top level stating > that I must select a sub folder. This is a deliberate restriction. If you were able to select the top-level folder and used "include subfolders", then many folders that should not be watched (e.g. Outbox, Drafts, Calendar) would be. See: [ 860410 ] SpamBayes allows top-level folders to be selected for more details. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From brendonl at weblink.com.au Thu Dec 9 02:34:27 2004 From: brendonl at weblink.com.au (Brendon Lansdowne) Date: Thu Dec 9 02:39:06 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 - can't access folders of other Mailboxaccounts Message-ID: <3BE8743BCB5459458A4E06FE568F31D68195F8@mail.wld.local> I clicked the folders in Filter which did not open then I checked for a log file by scanning for spambayes*.log on all drives and did not find such a log. Best regards Brendon Lansdowne ____________________ WebLink Email: Brendon.Lansdowne@weblink.com.au Ph: +61 2 9495 8400 Fax: +61 2 9495 8401 Suite 5, Level 2, North Tower 1 Railway Street, Chatswood NSW 2067 Australia www.weblink.com.au -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 11:41 AM To: Brendon Lansdowne; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 - can't access folders of other Mailboxaccounts > That is I can't expand each Mail box (except the one I am logged in > as) to reveal the sub folder. Could you try this again (to generate the log entries) and send us a copy of your most recent log? (SpamBayes->Help->Troubleshooting Guide explains where to find the logs). Perhaps something with the MAPI has changed with Outlook 2003 that stops this working (it definitely still works with 2002). > Also Spambayes 1.01 won't let me select the top level stating that I > must select a sub folder. This is a deliberate restriction. If you were able to select the top-level folder and used "include subfolders", then many folders that should not be watched (e.g. Outbox, Drafts, Calendar) would be. See: [ 860410 ] SpamBayes allows top-level folders to be selected for more details. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Dec 9 03:39:41 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Dec 9 03:40:26 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 - can't access folders of other Mailboxaccounts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I clicked the folders in Filter which did not open then I > checked for a log file by scanning for spambayes*.log on all > drives and did not find such a log. If SpamBayes is running, then it is generating a log file. Often a default search will not include hidden folders, and the temp directory (where the log is) is hidden. The simplest way to get hold of the most recent log is: 1. Open the SpamBayes Manager dialog (from the SpamBayes toolbar) 2. Click the Advanced tab. 3. Click the Diagnostics button. 4. Click the View log button. (I notice that this isn't in the troubleshooting guide for some reason...I'll update it). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From brendonl at weblink.com.au Thu Dec 9 03:38:23 2004 From: brendonl at weblink.com.au (Brendon Lansdowne) Date: Thu Dec 9 03:43:02 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 - can't access folders of other Mailboxaccounts - Log Message-ID: <3BE8743BCB5459458A4E06FE568F31D68195FF@mail.wld.local> Log Warning: option experimental_ham_spam_imbalance_adjustment in section Classifier is deprecated Loaded bayes database from '\\wld\dfs\staff files\brendonl\application data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' Loaded message database from '\\wld\dfs\staff files\brendonl\application data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' Bayes database initialized with 8541 spam and 886 good messages *** - message database has 9426 messages - bayes has 9427 - something is screwey SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0.1 (November 2004) starting (with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004)) on Windows 5.1.2600 (Service Pack 1) using Python 2.3.4 (#53, May 25 2004, 21:17:02) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - infobs' SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - brendonbs' SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - Brendon Lansdowne (2)' SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - Accounts' SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - Brendon Lansdowne/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - Info' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Mailbox - Brendon Lansdowne/Spam' Processing 0 missed spam in folder 'Top of Information Store' took 8.89582ms Processing 0 missed spam in folder 'Top of Information Store' took 8.07225ms Processing 0 missed spam in folder 'Top of Information Store' took 9.51182ms Processing 0 missed spam in folder 'Top of Information Store' took 9.48473ms Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer Processing 0 missed spam in folder 'Top of Information Store' took 10.7785ms FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' - (-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None, 0, -2147467259), None) The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar... Message 'RE:'RTCProd=006-892-999'sp2 issues' in 'Mailbox - Brendon Lansdowne/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Moving and spam training message 'Re: Your software' - Training on message 'Re: Your software' in 'Mailbox - Nui Krairit/Junk Suspects - trained as spam WARNING: Bayes database has 9428 messages, but training database has 9427 Message 'Inxepenisve V?lium ' in 'Mailbox - Brendon Lansdowne/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' Message 'Remote Control Hovercraft - Not Found In Stores ' in 'Mailbox - Brendon Lansdowne/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' Message 'Have we discovered the Fountain of Youth? ctt' in 'Mailbox - Brendon Lansdowne/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' Message 'Gain Up To 3+ Full Inches In Length ' in 'Mailbox - Brendon Lansdowne/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' Message 'you design it' in 'Mailbox - Brendon Lansdowne/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' Message 'ASXTradesProcessor - BS9 (Default Settings) at 192.168.1.119:7072 is DOWN' in 'Mailbox - Brendon Lansdowne/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'Rotating Databases SUMMARY report for 20041208 ' in 'Mailbox - Brendon Lansdowne/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'Why not help yourself?' in 'Mailbox - Brendon Lansdowne/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' Message 'Remote Control Hovercraft - Not Found In Stores ' in 'Mailbox - Brendon Lansdowne/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' Message 'you design it' in 'Mailbox - Brendon Lansdowne/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' Message 'you design it' in 'Mailbox - Brendon Lansdowne/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' Message ' FDA Approved' in 'Mailbox - Brendon Lansdowne/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' Message 'RE: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 - can't access folders of other Mailboxaccounts' in 'Mailbox - Brendon Lansdowne/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Best regards Brendon Lansdowne ____________________ WebLink Email: Brendon.Lansdowne@weblink.com.au Ph: +61 2 9495 8400 Fax: +61 2 9495 8401 Suite 5, Level 2, North Tower 1 Railway Street, Chatswood NSW 2067 Australia www.weblink.com.au -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 1:40 PM To: Brendon Lansdowne; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 - can't access folders of other Mailboxaccounts > I clicked the folders in Filter which did not open then I checked for > a log file by scanning for spambayes*.log on all drives and did not > find such a log. If SpamBayes is running, then it is generating a log file. Often a default search will not include hidden folders, and the temp directory (where the log is) is hidden. The simplest way to get hold of the most recent log is: 1. Open the SpamBayes Manager dialog (from the SpamBayes toolbar) 2. Click the Advanced tab. 3. Click the Diagnostics button. 4. Click the View log button. (I notice that this isn't in the troubleshooting guide for some reason...I'll update it). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From cindysoh at mail.com Thu Dec 9 11:20:54 2004 From: cindysoh at mail.com (Cindy Soh) Date: Thu Dec 9 11:44:38 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Link exchange - with www.airquace.com Message-ID: <200412091016.iB9AGQJ00595@zeus.eroute.net> Dear Web Administrator, I'm interested in exchanging links with you. My site's a Page Rank 4 with Google. I have already linked you at http://www.airquace.com/otherlinks.html Do email me back your webpage url with our link. Else I'd remove your link in my page in a week if you don't reply. My site's information: URL : http://www.airquace.com Title : Airquace Technologies - SMS Software Developer Brief Description: Develops bulk SMS software for marketing use. Long Description : Develops bulk SMS software for marketing use. Purchase and download available online. Thank you. Regards, Cindy From richie at entrian.com Thu Dec 9 12:46:29 2004 From: richie at entrian.com (Richie Hindle) Date: Thu Dec 9 12:46:36 2004 Subject: Re. [Spambayes] Link exchange - with www.airquace.com Message-ID: [Cindy] > I'm interested in exchanging links with you > My site's information: [...] Develops bulk SMS software for marketing use. No thanks. Really. -- Richie Hindle richie@entrian.com> From Soeren.Meyer-Eppler at BuschnicK.net Thu Dec 9 13:21:08 2004 From: Soeren.Meyer-Eppler at BuschnicK.net (Soeren.Meyer-Eppler) Date: Thu Dec 9 13:21:10 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] please help with X-Spambayes-Exception Message-ID: <41B84334.3080804@BuschnicK.net> Hey, I'm running the pop3proxy_service version of spambayes1.0.1 on WindowsXPsp2 with python2.4alpha3 and pywin32extensions pywin32-203.win32-py2.4. The spambayes service is installed and running and I can use the spambayes localhost web page to configure, train and classify messages without problem. When receiving messages through the proxy server though I have the following block in the header of all emails: X-Spambayes-Exception: Traceback (most recent call last): . File "c:\programme\python\scripts\sb_server.py", line 471, in onRetr . msg.setPayload(messageText) . File "c:\programme\python\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\message.py", line 249, in setPayload . prs._parseheaders(self, fp) .AttributeError: Parser instance has no attribute '_parseheaders' My email client is Thunderbird1.0 if it matters. Any ideas as to what might have gone wrong here? Help greatly appreciated. I don't know if this might be related, but another problem I have is that I cannot get the tray to compile because of the following error: C:\Programme\Python\Scripts>c:\programme\python\python pop3proxy_tray.py Traceback (most recent call last): File "pop3proxy_tray.py", line 556, in ? main() File "pop3proxy_tray.py", line 552, in main w = MainWindow() File "pop3proxy_tray.py", line 181, in __init__ 16, 16, icon_flags) pywintypes.error: (2, 'LoadImage', 'Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden.') (system cannot find the referenced file) I have been running previous versions of spambayes for quite a while now and am truly impressed by the quality of it's filtering. Spambayes proved to be the only spam solution out of many tested that caught nearly all of my spam with zero false positives. Congrats to a job well done! regards, S?ren Meyer-Eppler -- 20 countries, 15.000km, 6 months - on a bicycle http://www.BuschnicK.net From Harold.Vandeventer at dpra.com Thu Dec 9 16:27:52 2004 From: Harold.Vandeventer at dpra.com (Harold Vandeventer) Date: Thu Dec 9 16:28:26 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 - can't access folders of otherMailboxaccounts Message-ID: Tony, here's the log from my machine. As background, I'm having very similar problems as seen by Brendon, but the environment is a bit different. The PC has been running Outlook 2003 on WinXP/SP2 for several weeks and properly filtering mail on other mailboxes. Like Brendon, I've not been able to drill down on mailbox folders other than the "logged in users" mailbox. But, filtering WAS working until three days ago. At that time, I moved all the mailboxes from ExchangeServer01 to ExchangeServer02. That move occurred with Outlook closed. After the move, Outlook opened fine, displayed all the mailboxes and I can view their content. I can MANUALLY mark messages in any folder as Delete As SPAM. To close, I'm seeing two problems: 1) Automatic filtering is not working on any folders. 2) I cannot drill down on other mail accounts to select their specific folders for filtering. Here's the log: Warning: option experimental_ham_spam_imbalance_adjustment in section Classifier is deprecated Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\spammgr\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\spammgr\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' Bayes database initialized with 177 spam and 0 good messages SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0.1 (November 2004) starting (with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004)) on Windows 5.1.2600 (Service Pack 2) using Python 2.3.4 (#53, May 25 2004, 21:17:02) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - SPAMMgr/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - DallasJobs/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - DenverJobs/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - RosslynJobs/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - StPaulJobs/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - ManhattanJobs/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - TerriplanJobs/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Mailbox - SPAMMgr/_SPAM' Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.pyc", line 361, in _TimerFunc File "addin.pyc", line 123, in HaveSeenMessage File "msgstore.pyc", line 1099, in GetField File "msgstore.pyc", line 975, in _EnsureObject msgstore.MsgStoreExceptionC:\Program Files\SpamBayes\lib\spambayes.modules\msgstore.py:126: FutureWarning: %u/%o/%x/%X of negative int will return a signed string in Python 2.4 and up : MsgStoreException: Exception 0x80040107 (MAPI_E_INVALID_ENTRYID): OLE error 0x80040107 Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.pyc", line 361, in _TimerFunc File "addin.pyc", line 123, in HaveSeenMessage File "msgstore.pyc", line 1099, in GetField File "msgstore.pyc", line 975, in _EnsureObject msgstore.MsgStoreException: MsgStoreException: Exception 0x80040107 (MAPI_E_INVALID_ENTRYID): OLE error 0x80040107 Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.pyc", line 361, in _TimerFunc File "addin.pyc", line 123, in HaveSeenMessage File "msgstore.pyc", line 1099, in GetField File "msgstore.pyc", line 975, in _EnsureObject msgstore.MsgStoreException: MsgStoreException: Exception 0x80040107 (MAPI_E_INVALID_ENTRYID): OLE error 0x80040107 Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.pyc", line 361, in _TimerFunc File "addin.pyc", line 123, in HaveSeenMessage File "msgstore.pyc", line 1099, in GetField File "msgstore.pyc", line 975, in _EnsureObject msgstore.MsgStoreException: MsgStoreException: Exception 0x80040107 (MAPI_E_INVALID_ENTRYID): OLE error 0x80040107 Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.pyc", line 361, in _TimerFunc File "addin.pyc", line 123, in HaveSeenMessage File "msgstore.pyc", line 1099, in GetField File "msgstore.pyc", line 975, in _EnsureObject msgstore.MsgStoreException: MsgStoreException: Exception 0x80040107 (MAPI_E_INVALID_ENTRYID): OLE error 0x80040107 Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.pyc", line 361, in _TimerFunc File "addin.pyc", line 123, in HaveSeenMessage File "msgstore.pyc", line 1099, in GetField File "msgstore.pyc", line 975, in _EnsureObject msgstore.MsgStoreException: MsgStoreException: Exception 0x80040107 (MAPI_E_INVALID_ENTRYID): OLE error 0x80040107 ____________________________________ Harold Vandeventer Network Administrator DPRA Incorporated 200 Research Dr Manhattan, KS 66503 Voice: (785) 539-3565 ext 1026 FAX: (785) 537-0272 -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Tony Meyer Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 8:40 PM To: 'Brendon Lansdowne'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 - can't access folders of otherMailboxaccounts > I clicked the folders in Filter which did not open then I > checked for a log file by scanning for spambayes*.log on all > drives and did not find such a log. If SpamBayes is running, then it is generating a log file. Often a default search will not include hidden folders, and the temp directory (where the log is) is hidden. The simplest way to get hold of the most recent log is: 1. Open the SpamBayes Manager dialog (from the SpamBayes toolbar) 2. Click the Advanced tab. 3. Click the Diagnostics button. 4. Click the View log button. (I notice that this isn't in the troubleshooting guide for some reason...I'll update it). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From robert at imagine.co.uk Thu Dec 9 21:48:19 2004 From: robert at imagine.co.uk (Robert Neuschul) Date: Thu Dec 9 21:48:21 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Refresh Issue on Exchange 2003, SB1.0.1 In-Reply-To: <91EC78587248DA44A26C19F05245D691C9A60E@lawmail2.avemarialaw.edu> References: <91EC78587248DA44A26C19F05245D691C9A60E@lawmail2.avemarialaw.edu> Message-ID: James > I have an Exchange 2003 Server (windows server 2003) with a Windows 2000 > domain. Clients are windows xp, sp1 and windows xp sp2. > > Most clients also have spambayes loaded. I just upgraded my spambayes to > version 1.0.1 and the problem still persists. Can you clarify: 1] Are the clients running Outlook 2003? 2] Are the clients connecting to Exchange as native clients or as POP3 clients? 3] Is the W2003/E2003 system /also/ running a Spambayes proxy? > We have been seeing problems with Outlook 2000/XP/2003 doing refreshing on > exchange folders. It is a widespread problem, more than 10 client machines. What exactly do you mean by "refreshing on exchange folders"? What are the symptoms [other than slow response] and what if any error messages are you seeing in the client and server Event Logs? What GPOs exist which might have impact on Outlook clients? Robert. From Harold.Vandeventer at dpra.com Thu Dec 9 23:30:05 2004 From: Harold.Vandeventer at dpra.com (Harold Vandeventer) Date: Thu Dec 9 23:30:57 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Refresh Issue on Exchange 2003, SB1.0.1 Message-ID: The "refreshing on Exchange folders" phrase sounds like the display refresh problem that has been posted numerous times. Upon manually marking a message as "Delete as SPAM" or "Recover from SPAM" the folder containing the message does not refresh automatically. If you simply double click the message after the "Delete/Recover" operation, Outlook indicates the message does not exist. It exists, but it's in a different folder. If you click another folder, then click back on the original folder, thus refreshing the display, you will then see that the message has been removed from the display on that original folder. ____________________________________ Harold Vandeventer Network Administrator DPRA Incorporated 200 Research Dr Manhattan, KS 66503 Voice: (785) 539-3565 ext 1026 FAX: (785) 537-0272 -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Robert Neuschul Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 2:48 PM To: SpamBayes@python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Refresh Issue on Exchange 2003, SB1.0.1 James > I have an Exchange 2003 Server (windows server 2003) with a Windows 2000 > domain. Clients are windows xp, sp1 and windows xp sp2. > > Most clients also have spambayes loaded. I just upgraded my spambayes to > version 1.0.1 and the problem still persists. Can you clarify: 1] Are the clients running Outlook 2003? 2] Are the clients connecting to Exchange as native clients or as POP3 clients? 3] Is the W2003/E2003 system /also/ running a Spambayes proxy? > We have been seeing problems with Outlook 2000/XP/2003 doing refreshing on > exchange folders. It is a widespread problem, more than 10 client machines. What exactly do you mean by "refreshing on exchange folders"? What are the symptoms [other than slow response] and what if any error messages are you seeing in the client and server Event Logs? What GPOs exist which might have impact on Outlook clients? Robert. _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From Harold.Vandeventer at dpra.com Fri Dec 10 15:06:36 2004 From: Harold.Vandeventer at dpra.com (Harold Vandeventer) Date: Fri Dec 10 15:07:14 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Refresh Issue on Exchange 2003, SB1.0.1 Message-ID: At least we're trying to describe the same problem. I've not been patient enough to observe a delayed refresh. At the moment, however, I've got another issue in that the PC with the refresh issue stopped filtering on all the folders, and I cannot get it restarted. I've uninstalled, installed, disabled, enabled, and stood on one foot while concurrently clicking the right-handed mouse with my left hand, all without success. But, to complicate the issue: I see (saw) the refresh issue only on one PC. My laptop refreshes automatically and instantly upon every "Delete as SPAM" or "Recover from SPAM" request. The major difference between the PC and the laptop (besides the obvious, ): PC is not running Outlook in Exchange Cached mode Laptop IS running Outlook in Exchange Cached mode PC monitors 5 other user accounts Laptop monitors only my account Beyond the refresh, though, on the PC I cannot drill down on the folders of the other accounts to select/deselect those to be filtered. I REALLY like Spambayes, my thanks to Tony and the others that know how to write code. I'm just a network admin and Exchange Manager, helping staff undo the View changes they claim they didn't make in Outlook that "deleted all my mail". I first observed the refresh issue when WinXP/SP2 installed on the PC. SB was at an older version, but I don't recall which one. I don't know when the drill down problem was introduced. I was obviously able to drill down on other accounts in an earlier version of SB, probably .8 or whatever it was called, but in 1.0 and 1.0.1 the drill down isn't possible (but complicated by the fact that filtering won't start either). Is the loss of drill down on other accounts the cause of the stopped filtering? Windows hotfixes and Office 2003 have also become part of the environment; maybe our problems are caused by one of those "fixes." I'll add an account on my laptop Outlook and see if I can drill down on it. ____________________________________ Harold Vandeventer Network Administrator DPRA Incorporated 200 Research Dr Manhattan, KS 66503 Voice: (785) 539-3565 ext 1026 FAX: (785) 537-0272 -----Original Message----- From: Kent, James [mailto:JJKent@avemarialaw.edu] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 6:59 PM To: Harold Vandeventer Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Refresh Issue on Exchange 2003, SB1.0.1 Harold, Thats it exactly. It takes about 1.5 - 2 minutes before the refresh finally kicks in -- If I wait it out. If I hit F5 or any other method that forces a refresh, then I get the refreshed view right then. The question is why? This wasn't always the case. I could go through the suspect folder and whip out 15-20 messages and they would jump from the view. I have been trying to track down the exchange 2003 server dialog for new message notification back to the client as one possible problem. ...Jim Kent _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org on behalf of Harold Vandeventer Sent: Thu 12/9/2004 5:30 PM To: robert@imagine.co.uk; SpamBayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Refresh Issue on Exchange 2003, SB1.0.1 The "refreshing on Exchange folders" phrase sounds like the display refresh problem that has been posted numerous times. Upon manually marking a message as "Delete as SPAM" or "Recover from SPAM" the folder containing the message does not refresh automatically. If you simply double click the message after the "Delete/Recover" operation, Outlook indicates the message does not exist. It exists, but it's in a different folder. If you click another folder, then click back on the original folder, thus refreshing the display, you will then see that the message has been removed from the display on that original folder. ____________________________________ Harold Vandeventer Network Administrator DPRA Incorporated 200 Research Dr Manhattan, KS 66503 Voice: (785) 539-3565 ext 1026 FAX: (785) 537-0272 -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org ] On Behalf Of Robert Neuschul Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 2:48 PM To: SpamBayes@python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Refresh Issue on Exchange 2003, SB1.0.1 James > I have an Exchange 2003 Server (windows server 2003) with a Windows 2000 > domain. Clients are windows xp, sp1 and windows xp sp2. > > Most clients also have spambayes loaded. I just upgraded my spambayes to > version 1.0.1 and the problem still persists. Can you clarify: 1] Are the clients running Outlook 2003? 2] Are the clients connecting to Exchange as native clients or as POP3 clients? 3] Is the W2003/E2003 system /also/ running a Spambayes proxy? > We have been seeing problems with Outlook 2000/XP/2003 doing refreshing on > exchange folders. It is a widespread problem, more than 10 client machines. What exactly do you mean by "refreshing on exchange folders"? What are the symptoms [other than slow response] and what if any error messages are you seeing in the client and server Event Logs? What GPOs exist which might have impact on Outlook clients? Robert. _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From savgw at architelpartners.com Fri Dec 10 16:36:46 2004 From: savgw at architelpartners.com (savgw@architelpartners.com) Date: Fri Dec 10 16:36:48 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Content violation Message-ID: <20041210153646.E1B071E4009@bag.python.org> Content violation found in email message. From: spambayes@python.org To: info@mailinside.edgate.com File(s): message.scr Matching filename: *.scr From mgaston at lucent.com Fri Dec 10 17:48:15 2004 From: mgaston at lucent.com (Gaston, Michael A (Mike)) Date: Fri Dec 10 17:48:32 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Wrong release Message-ID: On my office computer, I checked to see if a new version of SpamBayes was available by using the built-in "Check for New Version" menu item. The response was that "The latest available version is SpamBayes Outlook Addin, Binary version 0.81 (September 9, 2003). No later version is available." I then installed (apparently successfully) version 1.0.1 from sourceforge. SpamBayes still tells me the exact same version message (0.81)... did my upgrade work? How can I be sure? Thanks. Mike Gaston Mike@GastonFamily.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: Subject: EN:LAR'GE Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 11:16:56 -0500 Size: 6719 Url: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041210/6871dd24/attachment-0001.mht From robert at imagine.co.uk Fri Dec 10 19:18:48 2004 From: robert at imagine.co.uk (Robert Neuschul) Date: Fri Dec 10 19:18:50 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Refresh Issue on Exchange 2003, SB1.0.1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Harold In article , Harold Vandeventer wrote: > The "refreshing on Exchange folders" phrase sounds like the display > refresh problem that has been posted numerous times. Upon manually > marking a message as "Delete as SPAM" or "Recover from SPAM" the folder > containing the message does not refresh automatically. Indeed it does sound like that: but the pairing of E2003/O2003 can behave somewhat differently compared to earlier versions so I figured it was a good idea to make certain - assumption can be the mother of all f*****s :-) Robert. From tim.peters at gmail.com Fri Dec 10 23:08:10 2004 From: tim.peters at gmail.com (Tim Peters) Date: Fri Dec 10 23:09:21 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam clues for 0% spam In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1f7befae04121014082f0ec0b9@mail.gmail.com> [Kenny Pitt] > Well, I guess it was bound to happen eventually. A spammer has > finally managed to include a significant enough number of words > that are hammy in my SpamBayes database to produce a 0% > spam score. Congratulations to "Winter Savings 4 Men (G)"! That's quite an accomplishment. > A snippet from a Google FAQ is an interesting choice of "random" > content. I hope this isn't a harbinger of things to come <0.5 wink>. Well, it *wouldn't* have been, except you just announced how effective it was . The layers of transformations that occurred between you receiving this and my seeing the forward make it hard to tell, so maybe you can tell more easily on your end (provided you saved the email, which I hope you did): it *looks* to me like the ripped-off Google text was entirely contained in an ill-formed HTML comment. By which I mean I saw an HTML comment start: