[Spambayes] RE: Spambayes Digest, Vol 61, Issue 31
John A
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Tue Sep 9 21:19:08 EDT 2003
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Classification not always added to the header:
ThePlotThickens (Lanny Trager)
2. Unable to Enable Filtering (Michele Scott)
3. Re: how spambayes handles image-only spams (Anthony Baxter)
4. Re: Unable to Enable Filtering (Anthony Baxter)
5. RE: how spambayes handles image-only spams (Ryan Malayter)
6. Re: Mailing Lists (Skip Montanaro)
7. Eudora Filters (theta sigma)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 10:44:04 -0400
From: Lanny Trager <ltrag at optonline.net>
Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Classification not always added to the
header: ThePlotThickens
To: spambayes at python.org
Message-ID: <200309091044.04400.ltrag at optonline.net>
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On Tuesday 09 September 2003 10:06, Anthony Baxter wrote:
> >>> Lanny Trager wrote
> >
> > Nope, I checked Kmail, all of my accounts (3) point to pop3proxy. There
> > is no reference whatsoever to any pop or SMTP server in Kmail except to
> > pop3proxy.
>
> You might want to try running tcpdump to check if Kmail doesn't have some
> wacky cached version of your POP settings in some strange little file in
> .kde or something. In the past when I've played with Kmail, I ended up
> nuking every config file it touched to get it to forget some old settings.
I appreciate your suggestion. Unfortunately I am not as literate in TCPDUMP
as I might be. Could you possibly tell me what command line options to use.
Thanks
Lanny
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 10:53:44 -0400
From: "Michele Scott" <mscott at perspectivedata.com>
Subject: [Spambayes] Unable to Enable Filtering
To: <spambayes at python.org>
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I have recently downloaded and installed Spambayes Binary Version 0.7. I
have followed the installation and troubleshooting guide. However, I am
unable to enable the filtering. I have defined a Spam folder and trained
messages. It seems to identify 29 good email and 52 spam. However, I am
unable to delete as spam and recover from spam, prompts for me to enable
filtering. The check box for me to enable this option remains disabled and
says I have to define a folder to filter, I have, "Spam" folder in my Inbox.
Also, does not automatically filter my messages, assuming this is due to the
enabling of the filter!? Help?
OS: Windows 2000
Outlook: 2000
Spambayes: Binary 0.7
Michele
We all wish an hour had a hundred minutes --
did anyone ask the minutes about this ?
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 01:10:44 +1000
From: Anthony Baxter <anthony at interlink.com.au>
Subject: Re: [Spambayes] how spambayes handles image-only spams
To: Bill Yerazunis <wsy at merl.com>
Cc: spambayes at python.org
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>>> Bill Yerazunis wrote
> How well does SpamBayes do on the SpamAssassin test corpus?
That's the stuff available here: http://spamassassin.org/publiccorpus/ ?
I'm not aware that anyone's run against it - perhaps someone's got some
CPU cycles burning a hole in their pocket and would like to try?
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 01:14:22 +1000
From: Anthony Baxter <anthony at interlink.com.au>
Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Unable to Enable Filtering
To: mscott at perspectivedata.com
Cc: spambayes at python.org
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>>> "Michele Scott" wrote
> I have recently downloaded and installed Spambayes Binary Version 0.7.
You might like to try the 0.81 version released in the last day or so.
I understand it has a nicer configuration interface.
Anthony
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 10:42:23 -0500
From: "Ryan Malayter" <rmalayter at bai.org>
Subject: RE: [Spambayes] how spambayes handles image-only spams
To: <spambayes at python.org>
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From: Bill Yerazunis [mailto:wsy at merl.com]
> Well, what happens in CRM114 is not that
> the HTML causes confusion, it does get
> factored in, but when you have a nearly
> 1:1 ratio in the hits, it basically doesn't
> make any difference to the end value.
Bill, how does CRM-114 handle a typical <IMG SRC=HTTP tag? Could you
post a sample of the (multi-word) tokens generated?
This might help me understand your approach and if it is the right one
to take with my test tweaks to the tokenizer for Spambayes.
Thank for your help,
-Ryan-
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 10:45:26 -0500
From: Skip Montanaro <skip at pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Mailing Lists
To: Bill Yerazunis <wsy at merl.com>
Cc: spambayes at python.org
Message-ID: <16221.62870.605485.649738 at montanaro.dyndns.org>
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thetasig> I subscribe to a number of mailing lists. All of these are
thetasig> ham.
thetasig> Any suggestions on how to handle this?
Bill> This is one of the cases where a whitelist is actually valuable.
Bill> The others are (in order of importance)
Bill> Your paramour
Bill> Your lawyer
Bill> Your boss
Then set it up in your procmailrc file or Outlook rules or whatever so that
those valuable addresses are dumped in the correct mailbox before SpamBayes
sees them. We went around and around on this during the last week or two.
SpamBayes does its job very well. If you want whitelists, your mail
software probably supports them in some way. There's no need to add this
functionality to SpamBayes.
Skip
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 08:47:14 -0700
From: theta sigma <thetasig at comcast.net>
Subject: [Spambayes] Eudora Filters
To: spambayes at python.org
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20030909084204.00b72520 at localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
It seems that Eudora is not able to "see" the Spambayes headers and so the
filtering process misses them and does not move the e-mails to an
appropriate folder.
Sample header:
Reply-To: [sender removed-theta]
X-Mailer: WhatCounts
X-Spambayes-Classification: spam
X-Spambayes-MailId: 1063122101
[body follows]
I've set up 2 filters for "ham" and "spam" headers but they are not
working. I've classified the filtering variously on <body> and on <any
header> but still no-go.
Has anyone been able to get these filters to work in Eudora? Is it,
perhaps, a Eudora bug?
Thx.
-=mark=-
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