[Spambayes] Bouncing Spam

[Tim Stone - Four Stones Expressions]

Well, ok then, the question arises as to whether or not spambayes should offer 
some functionality that is integratable into MX agents, or an MX agent proxy, 
or something like that, that is spambayes enabled, for webmasters or others 
who administer such things...  I certainly wouldn't have the slightest idea 
how to make such a thing, but it seems reasonable.

- TimS

11/27/2002 10:55:04 AM, "T. Alexander Popiel" <popiel@wolfskeep.com> wrote:

>In message:  <3DE4A5DD.9010904@startechgroup.co.uk>
>             Matt Sergeant <msergeant@startechgroup.co.uk> writes:
>>Steve Atkins said the following on 27/11/02 04:17:
>>> The only way to safely bounce spam is to drop it with a permanent
>>> (5xx) rejection at an appropriate point in the SMTP transaction at the
>>> first point it enters your network (i.e. if your secondary MX accepts
>>> it, don't reject the delivery to your primary).
>>
>>Another thing that came up discussing this on the SpamAssassin list is 
>>that this only works on the mail server that is your MX server. If you 
>>get mail through a third party (e.g. an ISP that might forward to your 
>>SMTP server) then it doesn't work.
>
>As an aside, I'll note that it's perfectly reasonable behaviour to
>have a bounce response late in the forwarding chain (as in a primary MX
>rejecting it when a secondary MX accepted it).  The problem is not with
>a violation of SMTP, but in the fact that the spammers routinely ignore
>foreign-generated bounce messages (since that would require them to run
>an SMTP server of their own (and actually process data from it)) and
>only pay attention to errors in outgoing conversations that their mail-
>blasting tools have.
>
>- Alex
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c'est moi - TimS
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