From kirebrow at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 27 13:07:52 2024
From: kirebrow at yahoo.com (Erik M. Brown)
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2024 13:07:52 -0500
Subject: [spambayes-dev] Outlook Tester Here
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I know it's been a minute Skip, and I saw you post on an online forum asking for an Outlook tester for possibly a new version SpamBayes for Outlook, and I wanted to let you know that I am available anytime as a tester!

 

I still use 1.1b2 on a Windows 10 machine running Outlook 2010.  I would LOVE to get a version working on a newer version of Outlook ( I have 2013 on a Windows 11 machine), where the "Show Spam Clues" is working again as well.   I sure miss that feature.

 

Let me know and I can have Windows 11 as the testing OS and I can get any version of Outlook as well.

 

Take care,

 

Erik Brown

 

From: spambayes-dev [mailto:spambayes-dev-bounces+kirebrow=yahoo.com at python.org] On Behalf Of Skip Montanaro
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2023 12:16 PM
To: John Cherney
Cc: mhammond at skippinet.com.au; spambayes-dev at python.org
Subject: Re: [spambayes-dev] Dev environment setup

 

I've never done anything with Windows. Based on questions asked in the SpamBayes-related mailing lists, it seems most usage these days does come from Outlook users, who by-in-large aren't developers.

 

Aside: Given that other email providers have implemented satisfactory spam filters (Gmail, Thunderbird, even Yahoo!), it's always struck me as odd that Microsoft hasn't seen fit to provide something for Outlook users.

 

Skip

 

On Tue, Nov 14, 2023, 9:48?PM John Cherney <jwcherney at hotmail.com> wrote:

Thank you for the info and support! 

 

Do either of you use the Outlook client, and if so, can you suggest and alternate spam filter? I agree gmail does a great job keeping out spam. I want to still use the Outlook client for my Microsoft email accounts. (Although I suppose I could be convinced to use their web client, but I think its spam filtering is just like the Outlook client)

 

With the help of Google and StackOverflow, I was able to get the local code running with Python3.12 and get the Add In gets registered. But it has the same issue as with the original 1.1a6 install. Outlook complains that there is a runtime error on loading of the Add In, and the add-in is disabled. Any ideas on where I could go to see that exception? I was hoping something would go in the EventViewer, or in a log file somewhere, but I haven?t found anything yet. 

 

Thanks,

jwc

 

From: Skip Montanaro <skip.montanaro at gmail.com> 
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 2:57 PM
To: mhammond at skippinet.com.au
Cc: John Cherney <jwcherney at hotmail.com>; spambayes-dev at python.org
Subject: Re: [spambayes-dev] Dev environment setup

 

Thanks for responding Mark. As you indicated, SpamBayes has been on long-term hiatus. The biggest impressive for me are a) Gmail does a good job, and b) I've so far been unable to convince anyone with Windows packaging experience to update that side of things.

 

That said, porting most of it to Python 3 isn't likely to be all that difficult. A couple of us have taken partial cracks at it.

 

Skip

 

On Mon, Nov 13, 2023, 10:13?AM Mark Hammond <skippy.hammond at gmail.com> wrote:

I don't think SpamBayes has any current developers and most work dried up even before Python 3 was ready. Modern Outlook also hasn't been tested. So I suspect you are probably on your own here, but those of us left holding the keys would be happy to arrange any doc etc changes you might make get committed if possible.

Cheers,

Mark

On 2023-11-12 10:57 p.m., John Cherney wrote:

Is there a recommended set of versions of tools and libraries for Spambayes development? (In particular, is there a recommended setup for python 3.x?) 

 

I would like to get Spambayes to work on a Windows 10 64-bit machine. The current recommendation works on my machine: Use the 32-bit version of Office 365 Outlook and install Spambayes into a non-standard directory like C:/Spambayes. Given that the software works under those conditions on a 64-bit machine, it makes me think that there is some interaction (registry key, etc) missing for Outlook 64-bit to recognize Spambayes. Maybe this is something as simple as rebuilding the installer on a 64-bit machine? (Ok, realistically, I?m sure someone has already tried that.)

 

Additionally, is there any way to see the runtime error being generated? Outlook 64-bit recognizes that Spambayes is there but generates this message in the Add-ins window: ?Load Behavior: Not loaded. A runtime error occurred during the loading of the COM Add-in.? Where can I see that runtime error? Maybe it?s a problem that?s already been solved? I remember seeing some DEP related issues with Outlook and/or the Spambayes plugin. I didn?t have any luck trying to disable DEP on the machine or disable it for Outlook (per the FAQ). Any other suggestions?

 

Thanks,

jwc

 

 

 

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