From carriedeutsch at yahoo.com.au Tue Jul 1 05:46:34 2008 From: carriedeutsch at yahoo.com.au (Carrie Deutsch) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 13:46:34 +1000 Subject: [spambayes-dev] =Spambayes= PLEASE REPLY TO THIS EMAIL _ IT IS VERY IMPORTANT In-Reply-To: <482B687A2184824D89145C74E6A540A2D7D137@MSGGALCLA2WIN.DMN1.FMR.COM> Message-ID: RE: =Spambayes= PLEASE REPLY TO THIS EMAIL _ IT IS VERY IMPORTANTDear Andoni, Thanks for that. I think that the assumption that people know who spambayes is, and that they have read fine print and know it is a public email address is a big one. I appreciate you telling me that I am not the only one who has been caught out by this. Many thanks Carrie -----Original Message----- From: OConchubhair, Andoni [mailto:Andoni.OConchubhair at fmr.com] Sent: 30 June 2008 20:55 To: 'spambayes-dev at python.org' Cc: Carrie Deutsch; 'Amedee Van Gasse' Subject: RE: =Spambayes= PLEASE REPLY TO THIS EMAIL _ IT IS VERY IMPORTANT Hi, Mail Chain moved from Spambayes User list. http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/2008-June/021978.html Though I would usually agree with this, now that I have spent a few months on this list I find that the number of people to whom this causes serious distress is significant. The warning IS there when you sign up but I imagine that I didn't read it and I can therefore see how many others might not have either. Good software practice involves checking with users when a decision they have made is going to have a serious impact: "Do you want to save the changes before exiting: Yes/No/Cancel" being the obvious example. To that end, I suggest that someone who knows how might add a confirmation checkbox and popup window to the sentence: "Please note that this is a public mailing list: all messages sent to this list are visible to the public, and are publicly archived." The point would be that you can click on a link to pop up a box which explains the public nature of this list. There would also be a check-box which you have to check to acknowledge that you understand, before it will allow you to click the "Subscribe" button at the bottom of the page. A bit like the "Terms & Conditions" check-boxes in many corporate download sites. Thanks, Andoni OConchubhair -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Amedee Van Gasse Sent: 30 June 2008 10:54 To: Carrie Deutsch Cc: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] PLEASE REPLY TO THIS EMAIL _ IT IS VERY IMPORTANT On Mon, June 30, 2008 03:53, Carrie Deutsch wrote: > Sorry about failing netiquette. > > I had no idea it was a public email I was sending. There was no indication > of that when I first sent the email, I thought I was emailing the people > concerned, and I was pretty annoyed, as I had obviously given them my > contact details not knowing they would be attached to some form that would > go public. > > I guess there is nothing I can do now, and my contact details I see got > attached to the email that I had no idea was public as it was in my > signature. > > I don't think it is good that an email address on a website should lead to > a > public list if you don't know that it will > > Thanks for your response > > Carrie I'm sorry to tell you that it is clearly stated on the website: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/contact.html There are currently five mailing lists of interest. All lists are public, and all are publicly archived. This is normal practice for open-source projects, and you should be aware that all email sent to one of these addresses will be visible to the world _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip at pobox.com Mon Jul 7 21:35:46 2008 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:35:46 -0500 Subject: [spambayes-dev] [Spambayes] Thunderbayes options In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F906D0B2DF@PKCVT01.pkc.com> References: <4870FBB8.5090007@mybluelight.com> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F906D0B2DF@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: <18546.28690.512762.863668@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> Jesse> Sounds like a problem in ThunderBayes, which is distinct from Jesse> SpamBayes. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/4025 Jesse> says ThunderBayes "1.0.1 is a bug fix release. It fixes issues with Jesse> loading and saving ThunderBayes settings." If you don't have that Jesse> version, an upgrade might fix your problem. Otherwise, you should Jesse> probably contact the ThunderBayes developers. I exchanged email with the ThunderBayes author several months ago about sucking its source into the SpamBayes repository. He's discontinued development, so it makes some sense to pick it up. OTOH, the SpamBayes crew isn't overburdened with developers just sitting around twiddling their thumbs, so we might not be able to give it much more love than it's currently receiving. Is there *anyone* in the SpamBayes community with an interest in ThunderBayes and some time to devote to making sure it works with the current version of SpamBayes? Since it's (probably?) written in JavaScript it might be worthwhile to cast our net into that community. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ ------ ELON MUSK: If fuel cells were good, don't think you'd see them somewhere, like maybe in a laptop or a cell phone or a $200 million military satellite maybe? And yet, where do you see them? SPENCER MICHELS: You don't. ELON MUSK: Exactly. Jesse> -----Original Message----- Jesse> From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] Jesse> On Behalf Of Frank & Angie Hoegler Jesse> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 1:07 PM Jesse> To: spambayes at python.org Jesse> Subject: [Spambayes] Thunderbayes options Jesse> I'm using Thunderbayes and in the tools>add-ons>thunderbayes options Jesse> when I try to direct "spam" and "ham" to another folder it always Jesse> reverts back to the default folders "spam on local folders " and "Inbox Jesse> on local folders" Jesse> Thank, Frank Jesse> --- Jesse> avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Jesse> Virus Database (VPS): 080705-0, 07/05/2008 Jesse> Tested on: 7/6/2008 11:07:07 AM Jesse> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2008 ALWIL Software. Jesse> http://www.avast.com Jesse> ____________________________________________________________ Jesse> Free information on a POS system that meets your needs. Click here. Jesse> http://thirdpartyoffers.mybluelight.com/TGL2341/fc/Ioyw6i5zv3QXAG2fsspYc Jesse> zgLoLjpGA4ViZjP8FevqkUgb4UKBoCrbh/ Jesse> _______________________________________________ Jesse> SpamBayes at python.org Jesse> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Jesse> Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Jesse> Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html Jesse> _______________________________________________ Jesse> SpamBayes at python.org Jesse> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Jesse> Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Jesse> Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From skip at pobox.com Sun Jul 27 16:00:43 2008 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 09:00:43 -0500 Subject: [spambayes-dev] How to retrain from scratch in pop3 web interface? Message-ID: <18572.32651.66951.343483@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> I've used the pop3 proxy's web interface as the GUI for a SpamBayes plugin for Roundup. While I'm the author of the code, other people are responsible for actually twiddling the bits on the server, so I have no access to the SpamByaes instance except through the web interface. I don't see any way to retrain from scratch via that interface. Am I missing something? Thx, Skip From richie at entrian.com Mon Jul 28 10:13:07 2008 From: richie at entrian.com (Richie Hindle) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:13:07 +0100 Subject: [spambayes-dev] How to retrain from scratch in pop3 web interface? In-Reply-To: <18572.32651.66951.343483@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> References: <18572.32651.66951.343483@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> Message-ID: <8a6ba1da0807280113k29526daen5e23938e987e9460@mail.gmail.com> HI Skip, > I've used the pop3 proxy's web interface as the GUI for a SpamBayes plugin > for Roundup. While I'm the author of the code, other people are responsible > for actually twiddling the bits on the server, so I have no access to the > SpamByaes instance except through the web interface. I don't see any way to > retrain from scratch via that interface. Am I missing something? It's been a long time, but no, I don't think you've missed anything. -- Richie Hindle richie at entrian.com