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From kenny.pitt at gmail.com Mon Sep 10 18:27:28 2007 From: kenny.pitt at gmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:27:28 -0400 Subject: [spambayes-dev] problem in "python setup.py build" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2a052b990709100927u794b2885sde2fd7e34e9b8cff@mail.gmail.com> On 8/27/07, Chinmayee Nagaraju wrote: > Downloading http://cheeseshop.python.org/packages/2.3/s/setuptools/setuptools-0.6c5-py2.3.egg > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "setup.py", line 5, in ? > import ez_setup; ez_setup.use_setuptools() File [...] > > this is the error 'm getting while trying to buil up python-MySQL. help me out This doesn't appear to be a SpamBayes problem because the setup.py for SpamBayes does not reference ez_setup. I'm not familiar with python-MySQL, but maybe they have their own mailing list that could help you out. -- Kenny Pitt From skip at pobox.com Tue Sep 11 05:31:40 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 22:31:40 -0500 Subject: [spambayes-dev] problem in "python setup.py build" In-Reply-To: <2a052b990709100927u794b2885sde2fd7e34e9b8cff@mail.gmail.com> References: <2a052b990709100927u794b2885sde2fd7e34e9b8cff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <18150.3100.693273.912007@montanaro.dyndns.org> Kenny> I'm not familiar with python-MySQL, but maybe they have their own Kenny> mailing list that could help you out. There are discussion/help forums on SourceForge: http://sourceforge.net/forum/?group_id=22307 Skip From david_7481 at hotmail.com Tue Sep 11 14:26:01 2007 From: david_7481 at hotmail.com (alet hjh) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:26:01 +0000 Subject: [spambayes-dev] Your link has been uploaded Message-ID: NOTE: If we have offended you by sending an email, please read our FAQ's, else for link exchange read below. Dear Webmaster, My name is David and I just wanted to let you know that we have already placed a link to your site on the following webpage: http://www.man-wallet.com/air-conditioning-filter.html Your Link details: Water Cooler - Plumbed in pure chilled filtered water coolers and fountains. I humbly request you to link back to us with the following details: Title: Portable Air Conditioning Unit Desc: A portable air conditioning unit provides the same heating and air conditioning as an air conditioning system, however, the quantity or the area it cools/heats is smaller and targeted. URL: http://www.airconditioning-filter.com/portable_air_conditioning.htm Below is our sites link code:

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From kenny.pitt at gmail.com Tue Sep 18 19:17:05 2007 From: kenny.pitt at gmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 13:17:05 -0400 Subject: [spambayes-dev] [Spambayes] removal In-Reply-To: <18157.12854.323837.957584@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <114793.92018.qm@web83705.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <1187717281.9821.49.camel@saruman> <18157.12854.323837.957584@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <2a052b990709181017h3b3acdcewec849e9f4485bdaf@mail.gmail.com> On 9/16/07, skip at pobox.com wrote: > Amedee> On one list, they changed the mailinglist footer. I would > Amedee> suggest: > > Amedee> SpamBayes at python.org > Amedee> Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Amedee> Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.htm > > This appears to already be the case for the SpamBayes list (for both digest > and non-digest recipients). I noticed that there is a broken link in the footer, though. The Info/Unsubscribe text links directly to the unsubscribe page, but it uses a list name of "spambayesInfo" instead of "spambayes" and results in a list not found error from the mailman server. -- Kenny Pitt From jsp at PKC.com Tue Sep 18 21:16:23 2007 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:16:23 -0400 Subject: [spambayes-dev] [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 In-Reply-To: References: <4709D89C2325744283DF357EB338972CEF6280@ntxbeus13.exchange.xchg><16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7C6E8@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7C821@PKCVT01.pkc.com> I'll leave it to Mark to say what went into that brew, and whether it'll be in the final 1.1 release. Speaking of which...what would it take to officially release 1.1? There seems to be some danger of forks of a sort occurring before it's even out the door. (Copying spambayes-dev in case there's anyone who subscribes to that list but not the user list.) -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Peter Flindt Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 1:50 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 Jesse Pelton wrote : > Mark Hammond has an alpha version that he's using with Outlook 2007. See > http://www.mail-archive.com/spambayes at python.org/msg05595.html. 8-o Which version ist this? Works very well here (OL2007/Vista Ultimate 32). :D (Must be a new version, I have tried many time other 1.1a versions without any luck) Many thanks for this link. Peter _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From mhammond at skippinet.com.au Tue Sep 18 23:41:36 2007 From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 07:41:36 +1000 Subject: [spambayes-dev] [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7C821@PKCVT01.pkc.com> References: <4709D89C2325744283DF357EB338972CEF6280@ntxbeus13.exchange.xchg><16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7C6E8@PKCVT01.pkc.com> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7C821@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: <068c01c7fa3c$bbcb8ed0$3362ac70$@com.au> I've been successfully using SB with Outlook 2007 for some time now, and there have been reports of success even before I tried. I just tried Outlook 2007 on Vista x64 and sadly it died very early. I'm still in the process of debugging that though - given we have waited so long, another couple of weeks to try and resolve that might be worthwhile (I'm also installing a 32bit vista to test with, just to see if that works better...) Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-dev-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-dev- > bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Jesse Pelton > Sent: Wednesday, 19 September 2007 5:16 AM > To: newsgroups at Lastwebpage.de; spambayes at python.org > Cc: spambayes-dev at python.org > Subject: Re: [spambayes-dev] [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 > > I'll leave it to Mark to say what went into that brew, and whether > it'll > be in the final 1.1 release. > > Speaking of which...what would it take to officially release 1.1? > There > seems to be some danger of forks of a sort occurring before it's even > out the door. (Copying spambayes-dev in case there's anyone who > subscribes to that list but not the user list.) > > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes- > bounces at python.org] > On Behalf Of Peter Flindt > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 1:50 PM > To: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 > > Jesse Pelton wrote : > > Mark Hammond has an alpha version that he's using with Outlook 2007. > See > > http://www.mail-archive.com/spambayes at python.org/msg05595.html. > > 8-o > > Which version ist this? > Works very well here (OL2007/Vista Ultimate 32). :D > > (Must be a new version, I have tried many time other 1.1a versions > without any luck) > > Many thanks for this link. > > Peter > > > > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > _______________________________________________ > spambayes-dev mailing list > spambayes-dev at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes-dev From marko at von-oppen.com Wed Sep 19 00:02:57 2007 From: marko at von-oppen.com (Marko von Oppen) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 00:02:57 +0200 Subject: [spambayes-dev] [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 In-Reply-To: <068c01c7fa3c$bbcb8ed0$3362ac70$@com.au> References: <4709D89C2325744283DF357EB338972CEF6280@ntxbeus13.exchange.xchg><16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7C6E8@PKCVT01.pkc.com> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7C821@PKCVT01.pkc.com> <068c01c7fa3c$bbcb8ed0$3362ac70$@com.au> Message-ID: <00d901c7fa3f$abf48180$03dd8480$@com> Mark, I'm running SB on Outlook 2007 / Vista Ultimate x64 for more than half a year now really stable. In daily work there are absolutely no problems. There were some small problems to get it running once but I reported all of them to the list. If I remember correctly the last one was a file access problem for the gen_py cache. Marko > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: spambayes-dev-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-dev- > bounces at python.org] Im Auftrag von Mark Hammond > Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. September 2007 23:42 > An: 'Jesse Pelton'; newsgroups at Lastwebpage.de; spambayes at python.org > Cc: spambayes-dev at python.org > Betreff: Re: [spambayes-dev] [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 > > I've been successfully using SB with Outlook 2007 for some time now, > and > there have been reports of success even before I tried. I just tried > Outlook 2007 on Vista x64 and sadly it died very early. I'm still in > the > process of debugging that though - given we have waited so long, > another > couple of weeks to try and resolve that might be worthwhile (I'm also > installing a 32bit vista to test with, just to see if that works > better...) > > Mark > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: spambayes-dev-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-dev- > > bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Jesse Pelton > > Sent: Wednesday, 19 September 2007 5:16 AM > > To: newsgroups at Lastwebpage.de; spambayes at python.org > > Cc: spambayes-dev at python.org > > Subject: Re: [spambayes-dev] [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 > > > > I'll leave it to Mark to say what went into that brew, and whether > > it'll > > be in the final 1.1 release. > > > > Speaking of which...what would it take to officially release 1.1? > > There > > seems to be some danger of forks of a sort occurring before it's even > > out the door. (Copying spambayes-dev in case there's anyone who > > subscribes to that list but not the user list.) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes- > > bounces at python.org] > > On Behalf Of Peter Flindt > > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 1:50 PM > > To: spambayes at python.org > > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 > > > > Jesse Pelton wrote : > > > Mark Hammond has an alpha version that he's using with Outlook > 2007. > > See > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/spambayes at python.org/msg05595.html. > > > > 8-o > > > > Which version ist this? > > Works very well here (OL2007/Vista Ultimate 32). :D > > > > (Must be a new version, I have tried many time other 1.1a versions > > without any luck) > > > > Many thanks for this link. > > > > Peter > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SpamBayes at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > > Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > _______________________________________________ > > spambayes-dev mailing list > > spambayes-dev at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes-dev > > _______________________________________________ > spambayes-dev mailing list > spambayes-dev at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes-dev From skip at pobox.com Wed Sep 19 04:24:25 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:24:25 -0500 Subject: [spambayes-dev] Next release? Message-ID: <18160.34905.737000.317248@montanaro.dyndns.org> Back in July I posted this "schedule": Anyone think it's about time for a beta release? I'll be out of town this weekend, but will try to put one together when I return. Maybe a release schedule like this: 1.1b1 July 11 1.1b2 July 25 (if necessary) 1.1rc1 August 1 1.1final August 8 That seems to have slipped just a bit. We just got a thumbs up for Mark's latest Outlook Plugin today, and I finally attached it to the 1.1a4 release. I would like to move toward a final release. Since it seems the bulk of the users are on Windows/Outlook I think everything depends the availability of Mark or someone else to build a Windows installer for any new releases. Mark (or anyone else), can you give me a time window when you can build an Outlook installer? If so, I'll try to do build the rest of 1.1beta1 at the leading edge of that window. Skip From skip at pobox.com Wed Sep 19 04:29:55 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:29:55 -0500 Subject: [spambayes-dev] [Spambayes] removal In-Reply-To: <2a052b990709181017h3b3acdcewec849e9f4485bdaf@mail.gmail.com> References: <114793.92018.qm@web83705.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <1187717281.9821.49.camel@saruman> <18157.12854.323837.957584@montanaro.dyndns.org> <2a052b990709181017h3b3acdcewec849e9f4485bdaf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <18160.35235.278173.917643@montanaro.dyndns.org> Kenny> I noticed that there is a broken link in the footer, though. The Kenny> Info/Unsubscribe text links directly to the unsubscribe page, but Kenny> it uses a list name of "spambayesInfo" instead of "spambayes" and Kenny> results in a list not found error from the mailman server. Hmmm... Here's what I see in a message to spambayes at python.org dated September 10: SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html I clicked all three of those links. They all took me where I expected. No 404s. Is there something different in the digest version perhaps? Can you forward me a problematic message? Skip From skip at pobox.com Wed Sep 19 04:32:31 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:32:31 -0500 Subject: [spambayes-dev] [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7C821@PKCVT01.pkc.com> References: <4709D89C2325744283DF357EB338972CEF6280@ntxbeus13.exchange.xchg> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7C6E8@PKCVT01.pkc.com> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7C821@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: <18160.35391.460886.882267@montanaro.dyndns.org> Jesse> Speaking of which...what would it take to officially release 1.1? Jesse> There seems to be some danger of forks of a sort occurring before Jesse> it's even out the door. (Copying spambayes-dev in case there's Jesse> anyone who subscribes to that list but not the user list.) Since the bulk of the users appear to be Outlook/Windows folks our ability to make releases is often limited by the time available the couple of Windows people in the spambayes dev community have to make them. If there are others in the community capable of making and willing to make Windows installers, subscribe to spambayes-dev at python.org and speak up over there. Skip From macklina.nash at hotmail.com Fri Sep 21 09:17:27 2007 From: macklina.nash at hotmail.com (Macklina Nash) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:47:27 +0530 Subject: [spambayes-dev] Link exchange Message-ID: NOTE: If we have offended you by sending an email, please read our FAQ's, else for link exchange read below. Dear Webmaster, My name is macklina and I just wanted to let you know that we have already placed a link to your site on the following webpage: http://www.man-wallet.com/air-conditioning-filter.html Your Link details: Water Cooler - Plumbed in pure chilled filtered water coolers and fountains. 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Download now. http://messenger.msn.com/Download/Default.aspx?mkt=en-in From dave at boost-consulting.com Thu Sep 27 01:51:22 2007 From: dave at boost-consulting.com (David Abrahams) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:51:22 -0700 Subject: [spambayes-dev] Help: bsddb._db.DBAccessError: (13, 'Permission denied -- put: attempt to modify a read-only tree') in <10d001c7cfe7$82710b30$090a0a0a@enfoldsystems.local> <87odhu7jkd.fsf@grogan.peloton> Message-ID: <87lkatm1dx.fsf@grogan.peloton> on Sun Jul 29 2007, David Abrahams wrote: > on Thu Jul 26 2007, "Mark Hammond" wrote: > >>> This bug appears to be back in some form: >>> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=13876 >>> 99&group_id=61702&atid=498103 >> >> Its hard to know if that fix was applied, as there is no attachement with >> the patch. Hopefully Tony will notice this thread and pipe up. >> >>> I was unable to reopen the tracker item. Can someone help me to at >>> least debug this problem? When exceptions are swallowed like that >>> without a backtrace, I don't know where to start. >> >> I'm guessing the vanishing backtrace is due to it being called by __del__. >> It *looks* like it might be __del__ in sb_filter.py. However, it looks a >> little like your exception is slightly different than the backtrace in that >> bug - the bug refers to an error adding tokens to the DB after training, >> while your exception sounds more like an exception as the DB is closed. > > Yes, after hacking __del__ to dump a backtrace, I see: > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/local/bin/sb_filter.py", line 185, in __del__ > self.close() > File "/usr/local/bin/sb_filter.py", line 180, in close > self.h.close() > File "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/spambayes/hammie.py", line 269, in close > self.store() > File "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/spambayes/hammie.py", line 266, in store > self.bayes.store() > File "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/spambayes/storage.py", line 266, in store > self._write_state_key() > File "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/spambayes/storage.py", line 270, in _write_state_key > self.db[self.statekey] = (classifier.PICKLE_VERSION, > File "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/shelve.py", line 130, in __setitem__ > self.dict[key] = f.getvalue() > File "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/bsddb3/__init__.py", line 218, in __setitem__ > self.db[key] = value > DBAccessError: (13, 'Permission denied -- put: attempt to modify a read-only tree') > > > My analysis is as follows: HammieFilter.close (in sb_filter.py) jumps through > all sorts of hoops to remember the mode in which the DB was opened, and > avoid calling store() if it was only opened for read. > > def close(self): > if self.h is not None: > if self.mode != 'r': > self.h.store() > self.h.close() > self.h = None > > So it sorta looks like Tony's patch was applied. > > However, Hammie.close (in hammie.py) just barrels ahead and calls > store() unconditionally... > > I'm not sure what the right fix here would be. Keep HammieFilter from > calling Hammie.close() when the DB was not opened for write? Sink the > close/store/mode-checking logic from HammieFilter into Hammie itself? > Something else? Okay, I submitted a simple patch. I hope someone can look it over. -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://www.boost-consulting.com The Astoria Seminar ==> http://www.astoriaseminar.com From kenny.pitt at gmail.com Fri Sep 28 16:05:51 2007 From: kenny.pitt at gmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:05:51 -0400 Subject: [spambayes-dev] [Spambayes] removal In-Reply-To: <18160.35235.278173.917643@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <114793.92018.qm@web83705.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <1187717281.9821.49.camel@saruman> <18157.12854.323837.957584@montanaro.dyndns.org> <2a052b990709181017h3b3acdcewec849e9f4485bdaf@mail.gmail.com> <18160.35235.278173.917643@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <2a052b990709280705t1fe95be1r46ce4fdd2e0dd0ce@mail.gmail.com> On 9/18/07, skip at pobox.com wrote: > Hmmm... Here's what I see in a message to spambayes at python.org dated > September 10: > > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > I clicked all three of those links. They all took me where I expected. No > 404s. Is there something different in the digest version perhaps? Can you > forward me a problematic message? That's true when reading messages in plain-text format. If you read an HTML-formatted message, though, the "Info/Unsubscribe" label is actually a hyperlink itself and the target for the link is "http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayesInfo/Unsubscribe". -- Kenny Pitt From kenny.pitt at gmail.com Fri Sep 28 16:24:05 2007 From: kenny.pitt at gmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:24:05 -0400 Subject: [spambayes-dev] [Spambayes] removal In-Reply-To: <2a052b990709280705t1fe95be1r46ce4fdd2e0dd0ce@mail.gmail.com> References: <114793.92018.qm@web83705.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <1187717281.9821.49.camel@saruman> <18157.12854.323837.957584@montanaro.dyndns.org> <2a052b990709181017h3b3acdcewec849e9f4485bdaf@mail.gmail.com> <18160.35235.278173.917643@montanaro.dyndns.org> <2a052b990709280705t1fe95be1r46ce4fdd2e0dd0ce@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2a052b990709280724v624f6e51s8dac4c8bb8603a8b@mail.gmail.com> On 9/28/07, Kenny Pitt wrote: > That's true when reading messages in plain-text format. If you read > an HTML-formatted message, though, the "Info/Unsubscribe" label is > actually a hyperlink itself and the target for the link is > "http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayesInfo/Unsubscribe". Hmm, this is a bit odd. I was going to go back and grab a copy of the HTML content from one of these messages showing the hyperlink, but it wasn't there. I read all my list mail in GMail, so I asked it to give me a copy of the "original" message source and the spambayesInfo URL doesn't appear anywhere in the source. The only mailing list footer is a plain-text only MIME section at the bottom of the message, yet when viewing that message inside GMail there is a clickable hyperlink that results in a "mail.python.org Mailing Lists" list page with the message "No such list spambayesinfo" at the top. It's almost as if GMail is inferring a hyperlink there, but I can't figure out why or where it came up with the link because the spambayesInfo name doesn't even appear in any of the mail header fields. If you're interested, here's the complete message source that I got back from GMail. You can see that it does contain an HTML-formatted version of the message in the multipart MIME, but it does *not* contain an HTML version of the mailing list footer. Delivered-To: kenny.pitt at gmail.com Received: by 10.78.179.3 with SMTP id b3cs18640huf; Fri, 28 Sep 2007 06:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.61.5 with SMTP id o5mr7604695qbk.1190986240022; Fri, 28 Sep 2007 06:30:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.27]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 34si72702nfu.2007.09.28.06.30.23; Fri, 28 Sep 2007 06:30:39 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 194.109.24.27 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of spambayes-bounces at python.org) client-ip=194.109.24.27; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 194.109.24.27 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of spambayes-bounces at python.org) smtp.mail=spambayes-bounces at python.org Received: from bag.python.org (bag.python.org [194.109.207.14]) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l8SDSE7S010378; Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:28:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from spambayes-bounces at python.org) Received: from bag.python.org (bag [127.0.0.1]) by bag.python.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F8091E400F; Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:28:14 +0200 (CEST) X-Original-To: spambayes at python.org Delivered-To: spambayes at bag.python.org Received: from bag.python.org (bag [127.0.0.1]) by bag.python.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92F5D1E400D for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:28:12 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Status: OK 0.283 X-Spam-Level: ** Received: from bag (HELO bag.python.org) (127.0.0.1) by bag.python.org with SMTP; 28 Sep 2007 15:28:12 +0200 Received: from mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com (mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com [208.47.184.3]) by bag.python.org (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:28:09 +0200 (CEST) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=bDZf-hiUAAAA:8 a=uZaO26zKCG1hwd7DcXwA:9 a=JLoLedn8_sZQlPhFTrYA:7 a=eWcznnakSMoiXw2l1nXcckFRakAA:4 a=begle0EBvngA:10 a=8UrxtZQlJLQA:10 a=CJge89XrRHUA:10 a=rl0z1pC05qIA:10 a=igkdSQrOE6AA:10 a=UAZALQJaam5NKcqJVAYA:9 a=9E8deBQlciORg-mNlxIA:7 a=tfy5mZt21pgCrgPk0T-vlZi79JMA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp08.embarq.synacor.com smtp.mail=janb at hardwooddesigns.com; spf=unknown Authentication-Results: smtp08.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=hardwooddsgns at embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received-SPF: error (smtp08.embarq.synacor.com: 63.162.203.184 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of hardwooddesigns.com Received: from [63.162.203.184] ([63.162.203.184:42497] helo=JANPC) by mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.0.18 r(18773)) with ESMTPA id 87/C0-15541-8610DF64; Fri, 28 Sep 2007 09:28:08 -0400 From: "Jan Bouterse" To: Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 09:28:08 -0400 Message-ID: <001101c801d3$68c00100$0e01a8c0 at hardwood.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcgB02f+3gdRmfsYQUChkF/j3Ig8Xw== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Subject: [Spambayes] question X-BeenThere: spambayes at python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for Pythonic Bayesian classifier List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0576480163==" Sender: spambayes-bounces at python.org Errors-To: spambayes-bounces at python.org X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0576480163== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C801B1.E1AE6100" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C801B1.E1AE6100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit First, let me commend you on your awesome program! Please let me know how I get writ of the SPAM-LOW that appears in front of some of the subjects in outlook's "subject field" I thank you in advance, Jan Bouterse, Director of Business Development Hardwood Designs, Inc. 511 Valley Forge Rd. Hillsborough, NC 27278 phone 919-643-1100 fax 919-643-1101 www.hardwooddesigns.com "The information contained in this correspondence may be considered confidential and proprietary. Distribute only by the express authority of Hardwood Designs Inc." ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C801B1.E1AE6100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable question

First, let me commend you on your = awesome program!
Please let me know how I get writ of = the SPAM-LOW that appears in front of some of the subjects in outlook's = "subject field"

I thank you in advance,

Jan Bouterse,
Director of Business = Development
Hardwood Designs, Inc.
511 Valley Forge Rd.
Hillsborough, NC 27278
phone 919-643-1100
fax 919-643-1101
www.hardwooddesigns.com

"The information contained in = this correspondence may be considered confidential and proprietary. = Distribute only by the express authority of Hardwood Designs = Inc."

------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C801B1.E1AE6100-- --===============0576480163== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html --===============0576480163==-- -- Kenny Pitt From skip at pobox.com Fri Sep 28 21:30:19 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:30:19 -0500 Subject: [spambayes-dev] [Spambayes] removal In-Reply-To: <2a052b990709280705t1fe95be1r46ce4fdd2e0dd0ce@mail.gmail.com> References: <114793.92018.qm@web83705.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <1187717281.9821.49.camel@saruman> <18157.12854.323837.957584@montanaro.dyndns.org> <2a052b990709181017h3b3acdcewec849e9f4485bdaf@mail.gmail.com> <18160.35235.278173.917643@montanaro.dyndns.org> <2a052b990709280705t1fe95be1r46ce4fdd2e0dd0ce@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <18173.22091.694879.941282@montanaro.dyndns.org> Kenny> That's true when reading messages in plain-text format. If you Kenny> read an HTML-formatted message, though, the "Info/Unsubscribe" Kenny> label is actually a hyperlink itself and the target for the link Kenny> is Kenny> "http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayesInfo/Unsubscribe". Kenny, I don't see anywhere that Mailman does HTML. Can you send me an email as an attachment so I can see Received: headers and everything? Thanks, Skip From skip at pobox.com Fri Sep 28 21:42:30 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:42:30 -0500 Subject: [spambayes-dev] [Spambayes] removal In-Reply-To: <2a052b990709280724v624f6e51s8dac4c8bb8603a8b@mail.gmail.com> References: <114793.92018.qm@web83705.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <1187717281.9821.49.camel@saruman> <18157.12854.323837.957584@montanaro.dyndns.org> <2a052b990709181017h3b3acdcewec849e9f4485bdaf@mail.gmail.com> <18160.35235.278173.917643@montanaro.dyndns.org> <2a052b990709280705t1fe95be1r46ce4fdd2e0dd0ce@mail.gmail.com> <2a052b990709280724v624f6e51s8dac4c8bb8603a8b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <18173.22822.905736.389082@montanaro.dyndns.org> Kenny> Hmm, this is a bit odd.... It's almost as if GMail is inferring Kenny> a hyperlink there, but I can't figure out why or where it came up Kenny> with the link because the spambayesInfo name doesn't even appear Kenny> in any of the mail header fields. I use gmail as well, though I get the mail delivered via POP and only rarely use the gmail web interface. I just went back and looked at this and a couple other threads via the gmail web interface. Not only did I not see or click URLs with missing "/" characters, I did not encounter any Info/Unsubscribe links which ended in "/Unsubscribe". They all took me (correctly, I believe) to the ".../listinfo/spambayes" page. Maybe it's a browser problem or an interaction between gmail and your web browser. I'm viewing through Thunderbird 2.0.0.something on Solaris 10 at the moment. I can check using Safari and T-Bird from my Mac when I get home. Skip