[SciPy-Dev] ANN: SciPy 0.8.0 beta 1

[David]

On 06/08/2010 10:10 AM, Ralf Gommers wrote:
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> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 9:03 AM, David <david at silveregg.co.jp
> <mailto:david at silveregg.co.jp>> wrote:
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>     On 06/08/2010 01:56 AM, Ralf Gommers wrote:
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>      > On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Charles R Harris
>      > <charlesr.harris at gmail.com <mailto:charlesr.harris at gmail.com>
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>     <mailto:charlesr.harris at gmail.com>>> wrote:
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>      >     On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 5:55 AM, Ralf Gommers
>      > <ralf.gommers at googlemail.com <mailto:ralf.gommers at googlemail.com>
>     <mailto:ralf.gommers at googlemail.com
>     <mailto:ralf.gommers at googlemail.com>>>
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>      >         On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Neil Crighton
>      > <neilcrighton at gmail.com <mailto:neilcrighton at gmail.com>
>     <mailto:neilcrighton at gmail.com <mailto:neilcrighton at gmail.com>>> wrote:
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>      >             Ralf Gommers <ralf.gommers <at> googlemail.com
>     <http://googlemail.com>
>      > <http://googlemail.com>> writes:
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>      > >  I'm pleased to announce the first beta release of SciPy
>      > > 0.8.0.SciPy is a package of tools for science and engineering
>      > > for Python.It includes modules for statistics, optimization,
>      > > integration, linearalgebra, Fourier transforms, signal and
>      > > image processing, ODE solvers, and more.This beta release
>      >             comes
>      > > almost one and a half year after the 0.7.0 release
>      >             andcontains
>      > > many new features, numerous bug-fixes, improved testcoverage,
>      > > and better documentation.  Please note that SciPy 0.8.0b1
>      > > requires Python 2.4 or greater and NumPy 1.4.1 or greater.
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>      >             Thanks for getting the beta out!
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>      >             The release notes say Numpy 1.3 or greater is needed
>     - is this
>      >             correct? Above you say 1.4.1 is needed.
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>      >         No, 1.4.1 is needed. Notes are fixed now.
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>      >             I think "support for
>      >             Python 3 in Scipy might not yet be included in Scipy
>     0.8" is too
>      >             ambiguous. Just say 0.8 will not be compatible with
>     Python
>      >             3, but
>      >             we expect the next version (0.9?) to be compatible, if
>      >             that's the
>      >             case.
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>      >         Reworded as:
>      > "Python 3 compatibility is planned and is currently technically
>      >         feasible, since Numpy has been ported. However, since the
>     Python 3
>      >         compatible Numpy 2.0 has not been released yet, support
>     for Python 3
>      >         in Scipy is not yet included in Scipy 0.8.  SciPy 0.9,
>     planned
>      >         for fall
>      >         2010, will very likely include experimental support for
>     Python 3."
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>      >
>      >     Are we going to release a Numpy 1.5?
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>      > Yes. Guess I should reread such a paragraph a few times before
>     committing.
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>      > The only reason I've not made a 1.5 branch yet is I will only
>     have time
>      > for a numpy release cycle at or towards the end of this scipy release
>      > cycle. Saves some backporting. If you think it'd be useful to do
>     it now
>      > please let me know.
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>     I don't think we should make the 1.5 branch now - there is a lot of
>     things missing, and I would really like to put everything that is needed
>     for python 3.x support in scipy in the 1.5 release.
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> Threads are mixing a bit, but we're talking about numpy here. I thought
> numpy 3.x support was pretty much finished?

Yes, but to make scipy compatible with 3.x, it is easier to add some 
stuff in numpy.distutils, etc... for scipy.

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>     And AFAIK, we have
>     not cleaned up the branch to make it ABI compatible with 1.4.x.
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> That should be done after making the branch right? If you remove
> datetime in trunk you're just going to have to put it back later.

But we agreed to remove it, right ? What if we decide to have a 1.6, 
etc... ?

cheers,

David