[pyvideo-data] Pytube using pytube/pyvideo-data

Sat Jun 4 16:24:11 EDT 2016

Hey Sheila,

Thanks for the update. FTR, no slight is taken here at the PyTube team. We
completely understand that its a big change and a fast moving one. Thanks
for all your work.

Best,
P

On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 2:48 PM, sheila miguez <shekay at pobox.com> wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> Due to the lack of conversation on the mailing list, I didn't realize how
> interested people were in working on things. I've been happy to see
> activity on github. And now I've been cheered by the enthusiasm of people
> in the pytube group and what I can see on pytube.org coming out of the
> pycon sprint.
>
> Paul has done well getting people involved. My intuition is that I think
> it makes sense to sunset the pyvideo/pyvideo-data repo/mailing list and
> point people over to the pytube repo since that where people are
> contributing the most.
>
> Re pytube philosophy.
>
> I do like the About page and Development Philosophy. I've been following
> the repo too.
>
> Re pyvideo.org
>
> I've been pondering what ground rules, if any, I'd like to see for passing
> on the ownership of pyvideo.org. I'd like for it to be in the hands of
> the PSF, with an understanding that it is in the hands of people who follow
> the ideals of community and open culture. This is something Will and I have
> have been talking about, and I've also talked to a couple of people on the
> PSF board. It's a lot for me to think through and I haven't processed it
> enough to have a conversation with everyone about it yet. Please be patient
> with me as I do that. I don't mean to slight anyone in anyway by not
> already discussing this.
>
> In closing, I'm grateful to all of you who are working on this, and also
> continue to be grateful for all the work Will does.
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 7:57 PM, will kahn-greene <willkg at bluesock.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Oh noes! Sheila and I offered several times to help out with any work
>> being done at PyCon and never heard anything from anyone. Fixing
>> permissions issues is not hard, but no one mentioned the need to me. Sheila
>> had set up groups earlier this week, but I hadn't done anything about it
>> because there was no indication anyone would be interested on this mailing
>> list, in the IRC channel or in the github issue tracker.
>>
>> I don't think it makes sense to have two master repositories around.
>> Given that you're going forward with yours, I'm inclined to throw in the
>> towel. Over the last few months, I tried pretty hard to bootstrap
>> pyvideo-data with the intention of passing it off to people who were
>> involved. It's been a disappointing journey. We've got a ton of people on
>> this mailing list, but it's pretty quiet. The IRC channel is quiet, too.
>> The github issue tracker is quiet.
>>
>> After I ended pyvideo, I continued to spend time on pyvideo-data to
>> bootstrap it was because I think it's an important project. The data is
>> valuable for research on historical trends like diversity at Python
>> conferences. It's the only data set that's Python-centric and makes it
>> easier to find Python videos without requiring everyone to post their
>> videos on YouTube. I think it's important to build a site on top of this
>> data that makes the video accessible to people who are otherwise
>> disenfranchised using subtitles/captioning, downloadable files, other
>> formats (mp3 was a popular ask). I hope pytube succeeds in those things.
>>
>> I'll catch up with Sheila at some point in the next few days, but I think
>> it makes sense to end pyvideo-data. If there's anything you need me to do
>> to finish things off or hand things over, let me know.
>>
>> Good luck with the sprints!
>>
>> /will
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016, at 08:31 PM, Paul Logston wrote:
>>
>> Gotcha. Let me clarify. None of us at PyCon, who are sprinting on a
>> replacement for pyvideo.org and building the associated tooling for it,
>> have merge permissions for pyvideo/pyvideo-data. In order to move forward
>> more quickly with all of the changes coming down the pipe, we've forked the
>> repo and started to commit to it.
>>
>> I'm not planning on taking the lead to upstream the changes. If a PR is
>> possible, I'd be happy to open one against the pyvideo-data repo. However,
>> since there's a lot more people with merge/admin permissions for pytube's
>> fork (9 people), it might make more sense to make the pytube fork the main
>> data repo. This would take the burden of you to have to review all PRs
>> coming through the gates. What do you think?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 5:16 PM, will kahn-greene <willkg at bluesock.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I don't really understand this plus it's the first I've heard about it,
>> so I'm puzzled.
>>
>> I have a couple questions:
>>
>> Why have people make changes to the pytube fork instead of the
>> pyvideo-data proper repo?
>>
>> Are you planning to take the lead on upstreaming the changes in the
>> pytube fork? If not, then it seems like we end up with two divergent
>> versions of the data.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016, at 07:59 PM, Paul Logston wrote:
>>
>> Hey Will and Sheila,
>>
>> Wanted to keep you updated with the latest status of things. Since
>> there's a lot of people who are interested in making some changes to the
>> pyvideo-data repo while here at the sprints, I've made PyTube.org pull from
>> the pytube fork of pyvideo-data. I've made you both admins for the repo.
>> Let me know if you need anything regarding permissions for the data repo.
>>
>> P
>>
>>
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