[Pythonmac-SIG] Pack Man issues on OS X 10.3.4

[Markus W. Weissmann]

On Jun 04, 2004, at 22:04, Bob Ippolito wrote:

> On Jun 4, 2004, at 3:30 PM, has wrote:
>
>> Bob Ippolito wrote:
>>
>>>> This gives an idea: would DarwinPackages or Fink be viable 
>>>> alternatives for MacPython package management? This would certainly 
>>>> save the time and hassle of rewriting and maintaining PackMan if a 
>>>> standard existing system could be leveraged immediately more or 
>>>> less for free.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone familiar with OS X-compatible package managers have any 
>>>> thoughts on this?
>>>
>>> Not possible, Fink and DarwinPorts both use their own version of 
>>> Python.

yep, we actually use our own python, but the DarwinPorts tools dont 
force you to. This is just the default we
make our stuff work for.

>> I don't mean you should install and use their version of Python 
>> (which seems a bit of a stupid reinventing-the-wheel exercise), just 
>> use them to manage third-party packages for MacPython where a 
>> straight distutils-only approach isn't adequate for the task (which 
>> is the justification for creating PackMan in the first place, if I 
>> understand correctly).
>>
>> Can that be done (or made to work for minimal effort), or are they 
>> really dumb enough that they can't play properly with anyone else?
>
> It's probably much less work to fix our own stuff than it is to fork 
> someone else's package management system.  I'm pretty sure that the 
> software Fink uses isn't license compatible with Python, since it 
> comes from Debian, so that's a big minus.  If you really think 
> DarwinPorts would be a good idea, then feel free to do the research... 
> but I don't think it's "smart" enough to be ripped into pieces and 
> used by us.  Besides, it's written in TCL.
>
> I think your effort would be better spent filing bugs, feature 
> requests, and PEPs for what we have.  It's definitely not as 
> fundamentally flawed as you make it out to be.  If you really do 
> believe it's broken beyond repair, then feel free to start developing 
> an alternative.

I dont know exactly how Pack Man works or what packages it makes 
available, but using darwinports
python ports for you should be rather easy:
-Install DarwinPorts
-hack the python group code and replace the calls to 
/opt/local/bin/python by those to /usr/bin/python
[/opt/local/share/darwinports/resources/port1.0/group/python-1.0.tcl - 
edit two lines]
-install packages
-make packages from the stuff installed (e. g. 'port contents py-snmp' 
-> list of files)

I dont know what you do about non-python packages that are required for 
python modules but are not
supplied by OS-X, those of course will not work this (very easy) way.


cheers,

Markus

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Markus W. Weissmann
http://www.mweissmann.de/
http://www.opendarwin.org/~mww/
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