From ke7fxl at gmail.com  Mon May  1 06:05:50 2006
From: ke7fxl at gmail.com (Tod Haren)
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 21:05:50 -0700
Subject: [PythonCE] PythonCE IDE and Form Designer in Development
In-Reply-To: <8f654c1e0604270641t5508a737uc15b643b79e46392@mail.gmail.com>
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Very cool.  I vote yes.

From johnny at debris.demon.nl  Mon May  1 08:36:41 2006
From: johnny at debris.demon.nl (Johnny deBris)
Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 08:36:41 +0200
Subject: [PythonCE] Remote Interactive Python shell
Message-ID: <4455AC79.8080800@debris.demon.nl>

Hello!

After a couple of years of catching dust, I started playing with my IPaq
a bit over the weekend. Installed the latest PythonCE (great work btw,
works like a charm), opened it, typed two lines of Python code... and
found again that the little keyboard thingie is not the most ideal for
input.

To overcome this, I wrote a little script, that allows executing Python
code remotely. There's a little server that can be started on the IPaq,
after that the client can be used to either present a Python prompt from
the server, or send complete files to it to be executed.

Type 'python ripshell.py' to start the server, 'python ripshell.py -' to
start the client and have the server present a prompt, or 'python
ripshell.py <filename>' to execute a Python script. Stdin, stdout and
stderr are redirected from the server to the client.

I was quite delighted, no more pressing little fake keys with the stylo
to test Python code on my IPaq, so I figured perhaps you guys might be
interested in it too. Added a BSD-style license, so you can kdo with it
whatever you wish basically...

Note that you will need to have a pocket pc with an IP address, I think
normally when connected via IR or USB and ActiveSync that's not the case
(I tested with USB and Linux/SynCE myself).

If you have questions or remarks, mail me!

Cheers,

Guido

P.S. To cleanly shut down the server, send it "raise SystemExit('quit')".
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From coder_infidel at hotmail.com  Mon May  1 16:00:24 2006
From: coder_infidel at hotmail.com (Luke Dunstan)
Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 22:00:24 +0800
Subject: [PythonCE] Python 2.4.3 for Windows CE / ARM (bug fix release)
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV971F19BEA81EA9433293E8AB10@phx.gbl>


A new bug fix release of Python for Windows CE is available. Download it 
here:

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=104228

The release notes are linked from this page, but a direct link is:

http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=413801&group_id=104228


Luke

From coder_infidel at hotmail.com  Mon May  1 16:06:34 2006
From: coder_infidel at hotmail.com (Luke Dunstan)
Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 22:06:34 +0800
Subject: [PythonCE] Fwd: IdleCE problem: No module named Tkconstants
References: <20060420164550.36443.qmail@web50210.mail.yahoo.com>
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed Blake" <kitsune_e at yahoo.com>
To: <pythonce at python.org>
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: [PythonCE] Fwd: IdleCE problem: No module named Tkconstants


>
> Yeah, I was going to post about what I did to get IdleCE working when I 
> moved
> to Python 2.4, but I was lazy and didn't want to say anything stupid.
> Basically paths are setup correctly on PythonCE 2.4, but none of the 
> Tkinter
> .py files are included.  Just copy everything from /lib/Tkinter on your pc 
> to
> /lib/Tkinter on your winCE - then edit/replace Tkinter.py using the
> instructions in the readme.
>
> At least I think that was all that was needed to get it running...  Maybe 
> I
> should fix the bugs and do a new release?  Also somebody should put the
> Tkinter pyc files into the zip for the next release of PythonCE, What good 
> is
> it to include it in the path but not the distro?

At first I thought so too, but actually the Tkinter .pyc files really are in 
the zip file, but sys.path doesn't point to them (it only points to a lib-tk 
directory outside the zip file). The latest release should fix this problem.

Luke

>
> --- Roman Bischoff <roman.bischoff at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> After a hard reset I lost my whole Python installation on the iPaq.
>> Now I'm re-installing it, and migrating to the newer versions.
>>
>> ...
>
>> I get this error:
>>
>> Traceback (innermost last):
>>   File "\Program Files\Python24\Lib\Editor.py", line 10, in ?
>>     from Tkinter import *
>>   File "\Program Files\Python24\Lib\Tkinter.py", line 42, in ?
>>     from Tkconstants import *
>> exceptions.ImportError: No module named Tkconstants
>>
>> ...
>>
>> Roman
>
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From coder_infidel at hotmail.com  Mon May  1 16:26:40 2006
From: coder_infidel at hotmail.com (Luke Dunstan)
Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 22:26:40 +0800
Subject: [PythonCE] Problem calling python
References: <20060412161901.83983.qmail@web50209.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV7841C2F5A0BBD6BFA21E08AB10@phx.gbl>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed Blake" <kitsune_e at yahoo.com>
To: <pythonce at python.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 12:19 AM
Subject: Re: [PythonCE] Problem calling python


>
> I've been wondering about that.  Don't you get the full path to a script 
> when
> it is run?  Otherwise how would Python know where to find the file it's
> supposed to execute?  How can you open a file without knowing where it is?
> And if you do know where a script is being run from - shouldn't that be 
> the
> scripts initial working directory?

Your suggestion has been implemented in the latest release.

Luke

>
> --- Luke Dunstan <coder_infidel at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> While you are debugging this, please be aware that unlike most operating
>> systems, Windows CE has no concept of a "current directory" at all. The
>> command prompt gives the illusion of a current directory for convenience
>> but
>> once you start another program it will have no way of knowing what the
>> command prompt current directory was. PythonCE also emulates a current
>> directory for compatibility with other Python platforms but it is always
>> "\Temp" when you start PythonCE. You can see what the current (emulated)
>> directory is using os.getcwd().
>>
>> Luke
>>
>
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From bpederse at gmail.com  Tue May  2 20:47:18 2006
From: bpederse at gmail.com (Brent Pedersen)
Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 11:47:18 -0700
Subject: [PythonCE] webserver on CE
Message-ID: <e183a99d0605021147y741a4194w9bd8b801c317653f@mail.gmail.com>

hi, i have a set of python CGI scripts that work on a server by serving an
html form, and storing data in a text file on submission (uh, yeah, hence
CGI).

i'd like to get a setup so that these scripts could be used in the field (no
web connection). i tried using a simple python script that acts as a
webserver on the handheld GPS unit with windows CE  (then access via
http://localhost/), but  some of the  imports that the scriptServer.py (off
activestate) used was missing.

is there a standard FREE webserver out there for windows CE?
or is there some other simple means i could use to generate a form and have
input stored to a text file?
i'd prefer to use html, since that's what's already used on the main
server...

any other ideas on storing content of an html form on submission (without
web connection)?

thanks,
-brent
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From redefined.horizons at gmail.com  Wed May  3 01:45:27 2006
From: redefined.horizons at gmail.com (Redefined Horizons)
Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 16:45:27 -0700
Subject: [PythonCE] Curious about Python for Windows CE
Message-ID: <e24752a10605021645p358656d5uf9e7c4ed9fa22bbe@mail.gmail.com>

I am still pretty new to Python, but my company is investigating the
possibilty of developing applications on Windows CE Devices, and I had a
couple of questions:

I'd like to use Python as my development environment for Windows CE Devices.
What is the current status of Python on Windows CE? Is it still very
"experimental", or is it something that I can use for development of a
relatively stable application?

Is there a GUI toolkit for Windows CE that I can use in Python? Something
like a port of PyGTK or wxWidgets?

Is there any work being done with Python for Pocket PCs that run Linux, and
not Windows CE?

Thanks,

Scott Huey
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From coder_infidel at hotmail.com  Wed May  3 06:21:24 2006
From: coder_infidel at hotmail.com ( Luke Dunstan)
Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 12:21:24 +0800
Subject: [PythonCE] webserver on CE
References: <e183a99d0605021147y741a4194w9bd8b801c317653f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV14379EA99ACA624D4667388AB70@phx.gbl>


Can you explain more about the missing imports? If the script is designed to be portable to Windows then in most cases it should work on Windows CE.

Luke

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Brent Pedersen 
  To: pythonce at python.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 2:47 AM
  Subject: [PythonCE] webserver on CE


  hi, i have a set of python CGI scripts that work on a server by serving an html form, and storing data in a text file on submission (uh, yeah, hence CGI). 

  i'd like to get a setup so that these scripts could be used in the field (no web connection). i tried using a simple python script that acts as a webserver on the handheld GPS unit with windows CE  (then access via http://localhost/), but  some of the  imports that the scriptServer.py (off activestate) used was missing.

  is there a standard FREE webserver out there for windows CE?
  or is there some other simple means i could use to generate a form and have input stored to a text file? 
  i'd prefer to use html, since that's what's already used on the main server...

  any other ideas on storing content of an html form on submission (without web connection)?

  thanks,
  -brent





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From johnny at debris.demon.nl  Wed May  3 08:20:02 2006
From: johnny at debris.demon.nl (Johnny deBris)
Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 08:20:02 +0200
Subject: [PythonCE] webserver on CE
In-Reply-To: <e183a99d0605021147y741a4194w9bd8b801c317653f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e183a99d0605021147y741a4194w9bd8b801c317653f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44584B92.2020509@debris.demon.nl>

Brent Pedersen wrote:
> 
> is there a standard FREE webserver out there for windows CE?
> or is there some other simple means i could use to generate a form and
> have input stored to a text file?
> i'd prefer to use html, since that's what's already used on the main
> server...
>
You could use core Python's BaseHTTPServer, I guess, although it's a
little simple and you'd have to implement relatively much yourself it
shouldn't be too hard to write a small CGI-capable webserver with it.

I guess it won't be usable out-of-the-box, and I guess CGIHTTPServer
won't work either, because there's no 'current directory' on CE, but
writing your own GET and POST handlers should not be very hard.

Cheers,

Guido

From gmc at serveisw3.net  Wed May  3 11:41:07 2006
From: gmc at serveisw3.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gonzalo_Monz=F3n?=)
Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 11:41:07 +0200
Subject: [PythonCE] [Fwd: Re:  Curious about Python for Windows CE]
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From jeff_barish at earthlink.net  Thu May 11 04:53:05 2006
From: jeff_barish at earthlink.net (jeffbarish)
Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 19:53:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PythonCE] Reverting to PythonCE 2.3
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I wanted to try the new PythonCE 2.4 that Luke published.  It loaded easily
and worked great -- except that wxPython will not work with it. 
Accordingly, I need to go back to 2.3.  I kept backups of everything, so I
thought that I was safe, but of course this is Windows so nothing is easy. 
PythonCE 2.3 runs when I navigate to it using File Explorer, but the Python
entry that I see under that start menu does not work (nothing happens) and
it does not work to tap on a Python program (The file 'X' cannot be
opened...).  I guess that the Registry needs to be updated.  Does anyone
agree with that guess?  What tools are available for editing the registry (I
am using Windows Mobile 5)?  Any idea what changes need to be made to the
registry?
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From jeff_barish at earthlink.net  Thu May 11 04:53:05 2006
From: jeff_barish at earthlink.net (jeffbarish)
Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 19:53:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PythonCE] Reverting to PythonCE 2.3
Message-ID: <4333415.post@talk.nabble.com>


I wanted to try the new PythonCE 2.4 that Luke published.  It loaded easily
and worked great -- except that wxPython will not work with it. 
Accordingly, I need to go back to 2.3.  I kept backups of everything, so I
thought that I was safe, but of course this is Windows so nothing is easy. 
PythonCE 2.3 runs when I navigate to it using File Explorer, but the Python
entry that I see under the start menu does not work (nothing happens) and it
does not work to tap on a Python program (The file 'X' cannot be opened...). 
I guess that the Registry needs to be updated.  Does anyone agree with that
guess?  What tools are available for editing the registry (I am using
Windows Mobile 5)?  Any idea what changes need to be made to the registry?
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From gmc at serveisw3.net  Thu May 11 08:29:24 2006
From: gmc at serveisw3.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gonzalo_Monz=F3n?=)
Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 08:29:24 +0200
Subject: [PythonCE] Reverting to PythonCE 2.3
In-Reply-To: <4333415.post@talk.nabble.com>
References: <4333415.post@talk.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <4462D9C4.9030803@serveisw3.net>

jeffbarish escribi?:

> I wanted to try the new PythonCE 2.4 that Luke published.  It loaded 
> easily
> and worked great -- except that wxPython will not work with it. 
> Accordingly, I need to go back to 2.3.  I kept backups of everything, 
> so I
> thought that I was safe, but of course this is Windows so nothing is 
> easy. PythonCE 2.3 runs when I navigate to it using File Explorer, but 
> the Python
> entry that I see under that start menu does not work (nothing happens) 
> and
> it does not work to tap on a Python program (The file 'X' cannot be
> opened...).  I guess that the Registry needs to be updated.  Does anyone
> agree with that guess?  What tools are available for editing the 
> registry (I
> am using Windows Mobile 5)?  Any idea what changes need to be made to the
> registry?
> -- 
> View this message in context: 
> http://www.nabble.com/Reverting-to-PythonCE-2.3-t1597668.html#a4333415
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>  
>
Hi Jeffbarish,

Yes, sure you need to update the registry values for the .py/.pyc file 
assotiation to be able to tap again and run python files.  Thought you 
could use the 'old' 2.3 setup-registry, it will update the registry 
keys. I don't know if you have got this in your current 2.3 install, so 
I've attached the files. Place them on the python lib folder (/program 
files/python/lib) and tap on the .lnk file, it will re-associate the 
python.exe from that folder with the .py files. Also probably would need 
to update the start menu link, you will have to make a new one for the 
new python.exe.

Finally, I'd like to ask some questions!! I haven't heard of anybody 
using python on a windows mobile! sure your answers will be interesting 
for all!!

Are you using python on windows mobile 5 with success? ARM cpu? Does 
wxwindows run fine? What kind of use you give to it?

Thank you for your reply !! :-)

Gonzalo Monz?n

From pythonce at electricmonk.nl  Thu May 11 10:28:27 2006
From: pythonce at electricmonk.nl (Ferry Boender)
Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 10:28:27 +0200
Subject: [PythonCE] Reverting to PythonCE 2.3
In-Reply-To: <4462D9C4.9030803@serveisw3.net>
References: <4333415.post@talk.nabble.com> <4462D9C4.9030803@serveisw3.net>
Message-ID: <20060511082827.GA5422@localhost.localdomain>

* Gonzalo Monz?n <gmc at serveisw3.net> [2006-05-11 09:31:15]:
> 
> Finally, I'd like to ask some questions!! I haven't heard of anybody 
> using python on a windows mobile! sure your answers will be interesting 
> for all!!

I haven't used Python much on my mobile yet, but I have installed it on
my Windows Mobile 5 ARM 'smartphone' (HTC Wizard) and it seems to work
great..  Previous releases of PythonCE often failed to work completely
or had problems when loading the win32foo libs (Python would crash). The
recently released version is the first (that I tried) that worked for
everything I had the time to try. Haven't tried wxwindows yet.

Greets,


-- 
Ferry Boender <f.boender at electricmonk.nl>
http://www.electricmonk.nl

From jeff_barish at earthlink.net  Thu May 11 16:35:02 2006
From: jeff_barish at earthlink.net (jeffbarish)
Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 07:35:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PythonCE] Reverting to PythonCE 2.3
In-Reply-To: <4462D9C4.9030803@serveisw3.net>
References: <4333415.post@talk.nabble.com> <4462D9C4.9030803@serveisw3.net>
Message-ID: <4341565.post@talk.nabble.com>


Thank you for the suggestion.  I should have mentioned before that I did try
to run setup-registry (and also Setup Registry).  Both are still present in
the lib folder.  However, neither will run, producing the same message I get
whenever I try to do anything (The file 'setup-registry' cannot be
opened...).  I assumed that they are both .py files, so they would not run
until the registry got fixed -- oh, I now see that setup-registry is a .py
but Setup Registry may be something else.  Actually, when I run Setup
Registry I get the message "The file 'python' cannot be opened".  I could
not find your attachment, but I presume that it is the same file that I have
already.  If winCE had a console, I would try running the command "python
setup-registry", but as fas as I can tell there is no console available for
Windows Mobile 5.  I even thought of running python and using the system
command, but pythonCE does not have that command.  I tried doing an import
setup-registry (after changing the name to setupregistry to make it a legal
Python name).  I get the message "Setting up registry to allow double
clicking of Python files to work".  Sounds promising, but I still can't run
any Python commands by tapping them.

How do I update the start menu link?  I never created it in the first place,
so I am not familiar with that procedure.  I am pretty green when it comes
to winCE (and hoping to keep it that way because most of what I have seen is
disgusting).

In response to your question, yes, I have been using Python on Windows
Mobile 5 (ARM) for many months.  It works fine.  I have also been having a
mostly good experience with wxPython.  The version of wxPython that I found
(the one originally created by Brian Retford) is based on an old wxPython. 
I have had to design around some bugs or quirks, but otherwise the library
works fine.  My main complaint is that they run a little slow, so I would
not try using them on a platform that did not have a fast processor.  Robin
Dunn is working on a new version of wxPython for winCE, but I have no
information on its status.
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From jeff_barish at earthlink.net  Thu May 11 23:31:03 2006
From: jeff_barish at earthlink.net (jeffbarish)
Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 14:31:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PythonCE] Reverting to PythonCE 2.3
In-Reply-To: <4341565.post@talk.nabble.com>
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	<4341565.post@talk.nabble.com>
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Or, if no one knows how to edit the registry in Windows Mobile 5, does anyone
know how to reload the OS?  I checked at the Dell and Microsoft web sites
but found nothing.
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From coder_infidel at hotmail.com  Fri May 12 17:04:33 2006
From: coder_infidel at hotmail.com (Luke Dunstan)
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 23:04:33 +0800
Subject: [PythonCE] Reverting to PythonCE 2.3
References: <4333415.post@talk.nabble.com>
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	<4349283.post@talk.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV1DB5F4F05D1AAEA10369D8AAC0@phx.gbl>


Total Commander can edit the registry on the device or Remote Registry 
Editor from Microsoft eMbedded Visual C++ 4.0 can do it remotely, at least 
on Pocket PC 2003. I think at least one of them should work on WM5. If not, 
you can write a Python program on the PC using the ActiveSync Remote API 
(RAPI) with ctypes.

Luke

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jeffbarish" <jeff_barish at earthlink.net>
To: <pythonce at python.org>
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 5:31 AM
Subject: Re: [PythonCE] Reverting to PythonCE 2.3


>
> Or, if no one knows how to edit the registry in Windows Mobile 5, does 
> anyone
> know how to reload the OS?  I checked at the Dell and Microsoft web sites
> but found nothing.
> --

From shane.holloway at ieee.org  Fri May 12 17:13:47 2006
From: shane.holloway at ieee.org (Shane Holloway (IEEE))
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 09:13:47 -0600
Subject: [PythonCE] Reverting to PythonCE 2.3
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Message-ID: <6D5FF99D-1ACD-4BA0-8B7A-208303EEB725@ieee.org>

Well, it's actually easier than that.  Look for a hard reset.  It  
will simply wipe your RAM and revert to the ROM image on the  
device.   Make sure you have everything you need backed up though --  
it *will* be gone unless it is in a non-volatile storage area.

On May 11, 2006, at 15:31, jeffbarish wrote:

>
> Or, if no one knows how to edit the registry in Windows Mobile 5,  
> does anyone
> know how to reload the OS?  I checked at the Dell and Microsoft web  
> sites
> but found nothing.
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From gmc at serveisw3.net  Fri May 12 18:11:38 2006
From: gmc at serveisw3.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gonzalo_Monz=F3n?=)
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 18:11:38 +0200
Subject: [PythonCE] Reverting to PythonCE 2.3
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jeffbarish escribi?:

>Thank you for the suggestion.  I should have mentioned before that I did try
>to run setup-registry (and also Setup Registry).  Both are still present in
>the lib folder.  However, neither will run, producing the same message I get
>whenever I try to do anything (The file 'setup-registry' cannot be
>opened...).  I assumed that they are both .py files, so they would not run
>until the registry got fixed -- oh, I now see that setup-registry is a .py
>but Setup Registry may be something else.  Actually, when I run Setup
>Registry I get the message "The file 'python' cannot be opened".  I could
>  
>
It is strange, that message means that python.exe is not found. Inside 
setup-registry.lnk I can see:
#"\Program Files\Python\Lib\python.exe" "\Program 
Files\Python\Lib\setup-registry.py"

A simple shell script! ;-)   As you can see, the .lnk file is a shortcut 
to python.exe, and ...py script to execute, as first argument.

I think you have some path issue. Is python installed on the \Program 
Files\Python\ folder?

>not find your attachment, but I presume that it is the same file that I have
>  
>
I replied a copy to your email address as a zip file, perhaps was 
rejected by mail filters, as did for this python-ce maillist, get 
rejected as said could not send executable files...

>already.  If winCE had a console, I would try running the command "python
>setup-registry", but as fas as I can tell there is no console available for
>Windows Mobile 5.  I even thought of running python and using the system
>command, but pythonCE does not have that command.  I tried doing an import
>setup-registry (after changing the name to setupregistry to make it a legal
>Python name).  I get the message "Setting up registry to allow double
>clicking of Python files to work".  Sounds promising, but I still can't run
>  
>
That message means you got succesfull python working and executed the 
setup-registry.py file. This script, as you could see if you open it in 
a text editor, does some registry editing as to register python.exe, and 
obviously, uses the same path as the shortcut file, so if the shortcut 
to python.exe does not work, that one will not work ever.

Check the installation path! Your issue is pretty simple. You've got a 
python.exe but it isn't in the folder where setup-registry.py expects to!

>any Python commands by tapping them.
>
>How do I update the start menu link?  I never created it in the first place,
>  
>
Remove it from \Windows\Start Menu\....    go to python.exe folder with 
file manager, select copy option by tapping over the file for a second, 
then get back to ...\Start Menu\  and again contextual menu and create 
shortcut -I don't know the precise names as I only have spanish WinCE 3 
devices, and no one Windows Mobile 5...

>so I am not familiar with that procedure.  I am pretty green when it comes
>to winCE (and hoping to keep it that way because most of what I have seen is
>disgusting).
>
>In response to your question, yes, I have been using Python on Windows
>Mobile 5 (ARM) for many months.  It works fine.  I have also been having a
>mostly good experience with wxPython.  The version of wxPython that I found
>(the one originally created by Brian Retford) is based on an old wxPython. 
>I have had to design around some bugs or quirks, but otherwise the library
>  
>
You managed to get that done, and you can't get this path trouble solved 
by yourself in minutes!!? ;-)

>works fine.  My main complaint is that they run a little slow, so I would
>not try using them on a platform that did not have a fast processor.  Robin
>Dunn is working on a new version of wxPython for winCE, but I have no
>information on its status.
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Regards,
Gonzalo.

From jeff_barish at earthlink.net  Fri May 12 23:41:33 2006
From: jeff_barish at earthlink.net (jeffbarish)
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 14:41:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PythonCE] Reverting to PythonCE 2.3
In-Reply-To: <BAY109-DAV1DB5F4F05D1AAEA10369D8AAC0@phx.gbl>
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Got it.  Thanks to everyone for the advice.  I finally figured out that I
could install Python 2.3.5 even though 2.3.4 would not install.  Everything
(including wxPython) seems to run fine with 2.3.5, although the error
message (coming from wxPython) about needing a newer comctl32.dll looks more
emphatic.  I am happy to avoid a hard reset, but glad to know that the
option is available.
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From jeff_barish at earthlink.net  Fri May 12 23:56:21 2006
From: jeff_barish at earthlink.net (jeffbarish)
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 14:56:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PythonCE] Reverting to PythonCE 2.3
In-Reply-To: <BAY109-DAV1DB5F4F05D1AAEA10369D8AAC0@phx.gbl>
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	<BAY109-DAV1DB5F4F05D1AAEA10369D8AAC0@phx.gbl>
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Got it.  Thanks to everyone for the advice.  I finally figured out that I
could install Python 2.3.5 even though 2.3.4 would not install, and
everything (including wxPython) seems to run fine with 2.3.5 (although the
error message (coming from wxPython) about needing a newer comctl32.dll
looks more emphatic).  I am happy to avoid a hard reset, but glad to know
that the option is available.
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From bandung at skyesystems.com  Sun May 14 01:56:08 2006
From: bandung at skyesystems.com (Bandung)
Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 23:56:08 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [PythonCE] =?utf-8?q?raw=5Finput_for_pythonce_ver_2=2E4=2E3_gives?=
	=?utf-8?q?_EOF_Error?=
Message-ID: <loom.20060514T014810-738@post.gmane.org>

I seemed have gotten idlece working along with Tkinter and python works well
except for a few problems.  The one that I would like to find a work around to
is with the input() and raw_input() commands.  Both return an EOFError When
reading a line

the line of code is 

def main()
x = raw_input()


From fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk  Sun May 14 12:18:16 2006
From: fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord)
Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 11:18:16 +0100
Subject: [PythonCE] raw_input for pythonce ver 2.4.3 gives EOF Error
In-Reply-To: <loom.20060514T014810-738@post.gmane.org>
References: <loom.20060514T014810-738@post.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <446703E8.7020403@voidspace.org.uk>

Bandung wrote:
> I seemed have gotten idlece working along with Tkinter and python works well
> except for a few problems.  The one that I would like to find a work around to
> is with the input() and raw_input() commands.  Both return an EOFError When
> reading a line
>
> the line of code is 
>
> def main()
> x = raw_input()
>
>   
Hello,

I'm afraid the underlying console for PocketPC doesn't support these 
functions. An older version of PythonCE used to have a workaround, but 
it looks like the code is lost in the mists of time. :-(

Fuzzyman
http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/shareware.shtml

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From eyecreate at gmail.com  Mon May 15 16:26:03 2006
From: eyecreate at gmail.com (The Head Guy)
Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 10:26:03 -0400
Subject: [PythonCE] Pyeditce is online!
Message-ID: <8f654c1e0605150726k5b7b4dbbyd58db5c45dd9c71d@mail.gmail.com>

After about 10 days of waiting, my sourceforge page is up! Please visit
pyeditce.sf.net to see information and download the IDE and Designer for
PythonCE! Please read the news too before you download anything.
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From tech_dev at wildintellect.com  Mon May 15 22:35:31 2006
From: tech_dev at wildintellect.com (Alex Mandel)
Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 13:35:31 -0700
Subject: [PythonCE] wxWidgets Example
Message-ID: <e4aom7$lmq$1@sea.gmane.org>

Does anyone have a wxWidgets for CE example that they could send me or 
point to online. I'm trying to develop some applications with BOA IDE 
and there is information about putting it on WinCE but I can't find any 
  examples.

I'm trying to avoid learning a whole new interface system (Tkinter) just 
  for the CE devices since I use wxWidgets on the desktop already.

Thanks,
Alex


From eol.ruin at gmail.com  Tue May 16 17:44:20 2006
From: eol.ruin at gmail.com (Eol Ruin)
Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 17:44:20 +0200
Subject: [PythonCE] Pyeditce is online! (The Head Guy)
Message-ID: <482a3d050605160844h3125a5cbg789ff4d16719ce60@mail.gmail.com>

Nice one.

Looks intriguing. Hopefully I will find some time to try.
Only suggestion would be cut the images (Screenshots) down ...

The take 200KB+. Converting in GIF might help.

Regards,
   Arno Pucher

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From lxo at Cs.Nott.AC.UK  Tue May 16 19:29:45 2006
From: lxo at Cs.Nott.AC.UK (Leif Oppermann)
Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 18:29:45 +0100
Subject: [PythonCE] wxWidgets Example
In-Reply-To: <e4aom7$lmq$1@sea.gmane.org>
References: <e4aom7$lmq$1@sea.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <446A0C09.9030608@cs.nott.ac.uk>

I am not an expert user of PythonCE but I found Adam Kruszewski's 
"all-in-one bundle" very easy to install.
If I remember correctly, it comes with some wxWidgets examples as well. 
The package might not be the newest but you could give it a go. It 
definitely worked for me.

Get it from his blog at 
http://blogs.unixage.com/blojsom/blog/adam.kruszewski/python/
Or directly http://ft.atr.bydgoszcz.pl/~leeloo/PythonCE2.3.4-StorageCard.zip

Cheers,
 Leif

Alex Mandel wrote:

>Does anyone have a wxWidgets for CE example that they could send me or 
>point to online. I'm trying to develop some applications with BOA IDE 
>and there is information about putting it on WinCE but I can't find any 
>  examples.
>  
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From bandung at skyesystems.com  Tue May 16 23:42:08 2006
From: bandung at skyesystems.com (Bandung)
Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 14:42:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PythonCE] Can't Get My Import Module Command to Work Properly
Message-ID: <4419614.post@talk.nabble.com>


Using the PythonCE interactive window, I am trying to shortcut having to type
in a sys.path.append() command every time I want to run a python script that
is not in the standard path.  So I created a module called paths.py with
several sys.path.append commands in it.

When I import this module into the interpreter, the interpreter appears to
accept it with no errors.  However, I can't run any python scripts that are
within the new paths that my append() commands define.

If I fire up a python shell interpretor and type these two commands - the
sys.path.append() command and then type another command line like ... from
"new_module" import * this works.  But if I put them in a module called
"paths" and import that module into my interpreter session, it doesn't work. 
Why?

(1. This doesn't work)
>>>import paths

The paths.py file is sitting in the Python24\Lib  directory and contains the
following,
-------
#paths.py
# append this path to system path
import sys
sys.path.append("\My Documents\Personal")
from calctaxes import *
No such module "calctaxes" error results.
------

The use of any functions within calctaxes fails even though the file
calctaxes.py sits in the directory \My Documents\Personal

(2. But this works if I type the following into the interpreter...

>>>import sys
>>>sys.path.append("\My Documents\Personal")
>>>from calctaxes import *


Then all of my functions within calctaxes work from the interpreter.
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From mdoukidis at gmail.com  Wed May 17 03:15:11 2006
From: mdoukidis at gmail.com (Mark Doukidis)
Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 09:15:11 +0800
Subject: [PythonCE] Can't Get My Import Module Command to Work Properly
In-Reply-To: <4419614.post@talk.nabble.com>
References: <4419614.post@talk.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <8d8511040605161815qdb5317dl8553251ec89cf3cc@mail.gmail.com>

Try using "sitecustomize.py". This is the setup I used for Python2.3:

# sitecustomize.py to be placed in python library directory.
import os
import sys

if os.name == 'ce':
  sys.path.append("\My Documents\Personal")

Hope this is useful.

Mark Doukidis

On 5/17/06, Bandung <bandung at skyesystems.com> wrote:
>
> Using the PythonCE interactive window, I am trying to shortcut having to type
> in a sys.path.append() command every time I want to run a python script that
> is not in the standard path.  So I created a module called paths.py with
> several sys.path.append commands in it.
>
> When I import this module into the interpreter, the interpreter appears to
> accept it with no errors.  However, I can't run any python scripts that are
> within the new paths that my append() commands define.
>
> If I fire up a python shell interpretor and type these two commands - the
> sys.path.append() command and then type another command line like ... from
> "new_module" import * this works.  But if I put them in a module called
> "paths" and import that module into my interpreter session, it doesn't work.
> Why?
>
> (1. This doesn't work)
> >>>import paths
>
> The paths.py file is sitting in the Python24\Lib  directory and contains the
> following,
> -------
> #paths.py
> # append this path to system path
> import sys
> sys.path.append("\My Documents\Personal")
> from calctaxes import *
> No such module "calctaxes" error results.
> ------
>
> The use of any functions within calctaxes fails even though the file
> calctaxes.py sits in the directory \My Documents\Personal
>
> (2. But this works if I type the following into the interpreter...
>
> >>>import sys
> >>>sys.path.append("\My Documents\Personal")
> >>>from calctaxes import *
>
>
> Then all of my functions within calctaxes work from the interpreter.
> --
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From coder_infidel at hotmail.com  Wed May 17 14:02:58 2006
From: coder_infidel at hotmail.com (Luke Dunstan)
Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 20:02:58 +0800
Subject: [PythonCE] Can't Get My Import Module Command to Work Properly
References: <4419614.post@talk.nabble.com>
	<8d8511040605161815qdb5317dl8553251ec89cf3cc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV10CAEFBD254187C3D783858AA10@phx.gbl>


Or even easier:

"The most convenient way is to add a path configuration file to a directory 
that's already on Python's path, usually to the .../site-packages/ 
directory. Path configuration files have an extension of .pth, and each line 
must contain a single path that will be appended to sys.path. (Because the 
new paths are appended to sys.path, modules in the added directories will 
not override standard modules. This means you can't use this mechanism for 
installing fixed versions of standard modules.)"

(from the Python manual)

For example, I have a file "sdcard.pth" in \Program Files\Python24 
containing a single line:

\sd-mmc Card\python


Luke

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From: "Mark Doukidis" <mdoukidis at gmail.com>
To: "Bandung" <bandung at skyesystems.com>
Cc: <pythonce at python.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [PythonCE] Can't Get My Import Module Command to Work Properly


> Try using "sitecustomize.py". This is the setup I used for Python2.3:
>
> # sitecustomize.py to be placed in python library directory.
> import os
> import sys
>
> if os.name == 'ce':
>  sys.path.append("\My Documents\Personal")
>
> Hope this is useful.
>
> Mark Doukidis
>
> On 5/17/06, Bandung <bandung at skyesystems.com> wrote:
>>
>> Using the PythonCE interactive window, I am trying to shortcut having to 
>> type
>> in a sys.path.append() command every time I want to run a python script 
>> that
>> is not in the standard path.  So I created a module called paths.py with
>> several sys.path.append commands in it.
>>
>> When I import this module into the interpreter, the interpreter appears 
>> to
>> accept it with no errors.  However, I can't run any python scripts that 
>> are
>> within the new paths that my append() commands define.
>>
>> If I fire up a python shell interpretor and type these two commands - the
>> sys.path.append() command and then type another command line like ... 
>> from
>> "new_module" import * this works.  But if I put them in a module called
>> "paths" and import that module into my interpreter session, it doesn't 
>> work.
>> Why?
>>
>> (1. This doesn't work)
>> >>>import paths
>>
>> The paths.py file is sitting in the Python24\Lib  directory and contains 
>> the
>> following,
>> -------
>> #paths.py
>> # append this path to system path
>> import sys
>> sys.path.append("\My Documents\Personal")
>> from calctaxes import *
>> No such module "calctaxes" error results.
>> ------
>>
>> The use of any functions within calctaxes fails even though the file
>> calctaxes.py sits in the directory \My Documents\Personal
>>
>> (2. But this works if I type the following into the interpreter...
>>
>> >>>import sys
>> >>>sys.path.append("\My Documents\Personal")
>> >>>from calctaxes import *
>>
>>
>> Then all of my functions within calctaxes work from the interpreter.
>> --
>> View this message in context: 
>> http://www.nabble.com/Can%27t-Get-My-Import-Module-Command-to-Work-Properly-t1631521.html#a4419614
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>>
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From bandung at skyesystems.com  Wed May 17 15:02:27 2006
From: bandung at skyesystems.com (Bandung)
Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 06:02:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PythonCE] Can't Get My Import Module Command to Work Properly
In-Reply-To: <BAY109-DAV10CAEFBD254187C3D783858AA10@phx.gbl>
References: <4419614.post@talk.nabble.com>
	<8d8511040605161815qdb5317dl8553251ec89cf3cc@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY109-DAV10CAEFBD254187C3D783858AA10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4429981.post@talk.nabble.com>


The *.pth is the easiest solution to the problem of being able to run a
script within a given directory.  Mark, your solution also works wrt to
appending the needed directory.  In fact it is the same as mine.  Only
difference is the name of the file and the fact that I don't use an os
import line.

The problem I was having related to the following command line within my
paths.py file 

                    from calctaxes import *  

This wasn't working.  It turns out that the reason it didn't work was
because I typed 

                    import paths

What I should have typed was

                    from paths  import *

Now when I use function within calctaxes, they work.  That is, I can type
the following

                     tx = calc(10,5)

Before I would get an error.  calc does not exist.

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From bandung at skyesystems.com  Wed May 17 16:30:16 2006
From: bandung at skyesystems.com (Bandung)
Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 07:30:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PythonCE] raw_input for pythonce ver 2.4.3 gives EOF Error
In-Reply-To: <446703E8.7020403@voidspace.org.uk>
References: <loom.20060514T014810-738@post.gmane.org>
	<446703E8.7020403@voidspace.org.uk>
Message-ID: <4431634.post@talk.nabble.com>


Thank you for this input.  I suppose python ce also doesn't support the
launching of scripts with the

            python myscript.py -i %1

 for the same reason.  I tried creating a file extension *.pyi that called
the above command in order to circumvent the lack of a console.  I get a
Null : Null  error.

These limitations prevent me from running a script in such a way as use the
interpreter to debug the script, check variable values, etc.

Even if I execute a script via the idlece utility, the resulting pythonce
interpreter that pops up only shows output.  I can't get it to accept inputs
so that I can debug things.

Looks like I have to use my destop tools in order to get things debugged. 
Is this your experience too?
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From eyecreate at gmail.com  Thu May 18 00:38:47 2006
From: eyecreate at gmail.com (The Head Guy)
Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 18:38:47 -0400
Subject: [PythonCE] dll loading error
Message-ID: <8f654c1e0605171538o5e0dc55focf778d67aa8d604e@mail.gmail.com>

I have been experimenting with the "ports" of wxwindows/wxpython and pygame
to the pythonce port. Any program I use that uses pygame or
wxpython/wxwindows comes up with a "load dll error, file not found". I have
the files "name_of_file.pyd" in both the DLL directory and in the Lib
directory in its corresponding folder. Am I putting the files in the wrong
spot, or is there something deeper?
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From bandung at skyesystems.com  Thu May 18 04:39:18 2006
From: bandung at skyesystems.com (Bandung)
Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 19:39:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PythonCE] Pyeditce is online!
In-Reply-To: <8f654c1e0605150726k5b7b4dbbyd58db5c45dd9c71d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8f654c1e0605150726k5b7b4dbbyd58db5c45dd9c71d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4443390.post@talk.nabble.com>


I have tried the program and I do like it.  I would like it if your file
loading dialog box accepted not only *py files but all file using the *.*
mask.  In that way I can open files with the *.pyw extension.
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From eyecreate at gmail.com  Thu May 18 16:22:20 2006
From: eyecreate at gmail.com (The Head Guy)
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 10:22:20 -0400
Subject: [PythonCE] pyeditce is online!
Message-ID: <8f654c1e0605180722o5e92a40ep203ef4bb1d0ace2a@mail.gmail.com>

I am going about to change the whole open file dialog structure, as of this
is the most complained about part. I have found a few "replacements" for the
default ones in .net, but I need to spend time to reprogram it. I will add
support to open .pyw files too, but I also don't want every file on the
Pocket pc to be shown either, as it takes too much time to load then. I will
find a compromise to these things, most likely adding .pyw to the list of
file types to show.
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From fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk  Fri May 19 00:11:49 2006
From: fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord)
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 23:11:49 +0100
Subject: [PythonCE] raw_input for pythonce ver 2.4.3 gives EOF Error
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Bandung wrote:
> Thank you for this input.  I suppose python ce also doesn't support the
> launching of scripts with the
>
>             python myscript.py -i %1
>
>  for the same reason.  I tried creating a file extension *.pyi that called
> the above command in order to circumvent the lack of a console.  I get a
> Null : Null  error.
>
> These limitations prevent me from running a script in such a way as use the
> interpreter to debug the script, check variable values, etc.
>
> Even if I execute a script via the idlece utility, the resulting pythonce
> interpreter that pops up only shows output.  I can't get it to accept inputs
> so that I can debug things.
>
> Looks like I have to use my destop tools in order to get things debugged. 
> Is this your experience too?
>   
Afraid so. :-)

However: building an interactive shell, like IDLE, using Pocket Tkinter 
(in fact based on the IDLE code I guess) is almost certainly possible...

Fuzzyman
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From fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk  Fri May 19 00:27:36 2006
From: fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord)
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 23:27:36 +0100
Subject: [PythonCE] Tk/Tcl Widgets
Message-ID: <446CF4D8.8040505@voidspace.org.uk>

Hello all,

I wondered if you'd seen this :

    http://wiki.tcl.tk/8442

It's a GUI built with Tk/Tcl for the PocketPC. It certainly shows what 
is possible. :-)

Fuzzyman
http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/shareware.shtml

From bandung at skyesystems.com  Fri May 19 02:49:31 2006
From: bandung at skyesystems.com (Bandung)
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 17:49:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PythonCE] Tk/Tcl Widgets
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References: <446CF4D8.8040505@voidspace.org.uk>
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This is a nice find.  I agree with you that it certainly shows what's
possible.  Alas, but I have given my heart to Pythoning and I can't bear to
learn another language.  

I have waded into this Tkintering thingy because of the lack of an up to
date wxPython capability for the poacketpc.  I would probably consider
learning wx before embarking on tcl.  

But boy, is it tempting!!!  If I'm still being frustrrated with my existing
pocketpc development tools three months from now, then its off to tcling I
go.
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From fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk  Fri May 19 10:58:00 2006
From: fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord)
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 09:58:00 +0100
Subject: [PythonCE] Tk/Tcl Widgets
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References: <446CF4D8.8040505@voidspace.org.uk> <4461524.post@talk.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <446D8898.5090902@voidspace.org.uk>

Bandung wrote:
> This is a nice find.  I agree with you that it certainly shows what's
> possible.  Alas, but I have given my heart to Pythoning and I can't bear to
> learn another language.  
>   
Actually, my point is that seeing as this is done with Tk - it ought to 
be possible with PythonCE !

:-)

(Tkinter is just a bridge into Tk/Tcl)

It's a shame IronPython can't be made to work with the compact .NET 
framework. :-(


All the best,


Fuzzyman
http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/shareware.shtml

> I have waded into this Tkintering thingy because of the lack of an up to
> date wxPython capability for the poacketpc.  I would probably consider
> learning wx before embarking on tcl.  
>
> But boy, is it tempting!!!  If I'm still being frustrrated with my existing
> pocketpc development tools three months from now, then its off to tcling I
> go.
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From bandung at skyesystems.com  Fri May 19 16:11:07 2006
From: bandung at skyesystems.com (Bandung)
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 07:11:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PythonCE] Tk/Tcl Widgets
In-Reply-To: <446D8898.5090902@voidspace.org.uk>
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	<446D8898.5090902@voidspace.org.uk>
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I was thinking something similar in that perhaps we could use a lot of these
tcl components ln the same fashion that we use Tkinter widgets - as black
boxes within our Python framework.

I was eyeing their SSL toolset as an example.  Plus I like the file system
proggie.  What I want to avoid is having to code in tcl in order to make
mods, like adding my own menus.

Given that there already is a Python/tcl bridge, we should be able to do our
mods via Python.  

I also like the fact that there is a console.  But I don't want to deal with
tcl in order to develop things or launch other apps.  I haven' loaded the
module yet so I could be speaking out of turn here.

Having said all this,  I must admit a certain ignorance to what it means to
be drawn into tcl.  I suspect that I am partly there.  For example, when I
get hung up on understanding how a particular Tkinter widget feature works,
I've seen on more than one occasion that it's due to tcl syntax.  Sooo maybe
I'm halfway there :)

I also need to do some quick googling to better understand your IronPython
.Net statement.  But boy oh boy, I really do like your dig on this project.
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From sleepingbull at gmail.com  Fri May 26 21:47:10 2006
From: sleepingbull at gmail.com (Matt S.)
Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 12:47:10 -0700
Subject: [PythonCE] pickle problem on 2.3.4 pythonCE (for wxPython)
Message-ID: <b08da1af0605261247x6399cc74ob4c00076527f9b89@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I'm trying to make a data collection UI for Windows CE using the
wxPyCE distribution (which uses Python 2.3.4)  found at,

http://www.traybor.com/PythonCE/

It's gone well so far but I'm running into a serious data pickling
problem.  Ideally I would like to pickle a class instance.

Saving and loading the pickled class works fine on my PC (Python 2.4x),

*pickleDump.py*
 f = open('pickle_file.pyp', 'r')
pickle.dump(my_class_instance, f)

*pickleLoad.py*
f = open('saved_pickle.pyp', 'r')
my_pickled_class_instance = pickle.load(f)

In my UI module the pickling are methods in a class.  Also, "my_class"
is actually, "another_module.top_level_class.data," wherein ".data" is
a dictionary with keys that are person names and values that are the
corresponding person instance.

Realizing that I'm probably breaking the pickling rules with pickling
my data class, I changed "my_class" in *pickleDump.py* to a simple
dictionary...  and it still failed on CE.  Fortunately, simplifying my
data to a simple list does pickle.  So, in the worst case I can
convert my data into lists (not pretty so if you have a better
workaround idea I'd really appreciate it).

Here's the traceback from my attempt to load the pickled dictionary,

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "\Program Files\python\dev\pickleLoad.py", line 10, in ?
    var = pickle.load(f)
  File "binaries\lib\pickle.py", line 1390, in load
  File "binaries\lib\pickle.py", line 872, in load
  File "binaries\lib\pickle.py", line 985, in load_string
LookupError: no codec search functions registered: can't find encoding

Here are my test modules,

*pickleDump.py*

import pickle, traceback, sys

f = open('test.txt','w')
error = open('dump_error.txt','w')
sys.stderr = error
log = open('dump_out.txt','w')
sys.stdout = log

#var = [n for n in range(10)]
var = {'parm1':1, 'parm2':'2a'}

try:

    pickle.dump(var,f)
    print 'Pickled dumped OK in,', __file__
except:
    traceback.print_exc()
    print 'Pickle dump failed! in', __file__

f.close()


*pickleLoad.py*

import pickle, sys, traceback

e = open('load_error.txt','w')
sys.stderr = e
s = open('load_out.txt','w')
sys.stdout = s

try:
    f = open('test.txt','r')
    var = pickle.load(f)
    print 'Pickle loaded OK in,', __file__
    print var
except:

    traceback.print_exc()
    print 'Pickle not loaded in,', __file__

Many thanks for your help,
Matt

From coder_infidel at hotmail.com  Sat May 27 15:21:15 2006
From: coder_infidel at hotmail.com (Luke Dunstan)
Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 21:21:15 +0800
Subject: [PythonCE] pickle problem on 2.3.4 pythonCE (for wxPython)
References: <b08da1af0605261247x6399cc74ob4c00076527f9b89@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV16E5E816940892E1E404BC8A9F0@phx.gbl>

Hi,

Your test program works for me on PythonCE 2.4.3.

Luke

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matt S." <sleepingbull at gmail.com>
To: <pythonce at python.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 3:47 AM
Subject: [PythonCE] pickle problem on 2.3.4 pythonCE (for wxPython)


> Hi,
> 
> I'm trying to make a data collection UI for Windows CE using the
> wxPyCE distribution (which uses Python 2.3.4)  found at,
> 
> http://www.traybor.com/PythonCE/
> 
> It's gone well so far but I'm running into a serious data pickling
> problem.  Ideally I would like to pickle a class instance.
> 
> Saving and loading the pickled class works fine on my PC (Python 2.4x),
> 
> *pickleDump.py*
> f = open('pickle_file.pyp', 'r')
> pickle.dump(my_class_instance, f)
> 
> *pickleLoad.py*
> f = open('saved_pickle.pyp', 'r')
> my_pickled_class_instance = pickle.load(f)
> 
> In my UI module the pickling are methods in a class.  Also, "my_class"
> is actually, "another_module.top_level_class.data," wherein ".data" is
> a dictionary with keys that are person names and values that are the
> corresponding person instance.
> 
> Realizing that I'm probably breaking the pickling rules with pickling
> my data class, I changed "my_class" in *pickleDump.py* to a simple
> dictionary...  and it still failed on CE.  Fortunately, simplifying my
> data to a simple list does pickle.  So, in the worst case I can
> convert my data into lists (not pretty so if you have a better
> workaround idea I'd really appreciate it).
> 
> Here's the traceback from my attempt to load the pickled dictionary,
> 
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>  File "\Program Files\python\dev\pickleLoad.py", line 10, in ?
>    var = pickle.load(f)
>  File "binaries\lib\pickle.py", line 1390, in load
>  File "binaries\lib\pickle.py", line 872, in load
>  File "binaries\lib\pickle.py", line 985, in load_string
> LookupError: no codec search functions registered: can't find encoding
> 
> Here are my test modules,
> 
> *pickleDump.py*
> 
> import pickle, traceback, sys
> 
> f = open('test.txt','w')
> error = open('dump_error.txt','w')
> sys.stderr = error
> log = open('dump_out.txt','w')
> sys.stdout = log
> 
> #var = [n for n in range(10)]
> var = {'parm1':1, 'parm2':'2a'}
> 
> try:
> 
>    pickle.dump(var,f)
>    print 'Pickled dumped OK in,', __file__
> except:
>    traceback.print_exc()
>    print 'Pickle dump failed! in', __file__
> 
> f.close()
> 
> 
> *pickleLoad.py*
> 
> import pickle, sys, traceback
> 
> e = open('load_error.txt','w')
> sys.stderr = e
> s = open('load_out.txt','w')
> sys.stdout = s
> 
> try:
>    f = open('test.txt','r')
>    var = pickle.load(f)
>    print 'Pickle loaded OK in,', __file__
>    print var
> except:
> 
>    traceback.print_exc()
>    print 'Pickle not loaded in,', __file__
> 
> Many thanks for your help,
> Matt

From coder_infidel at hotmail.com  Sun May 28 06:20:57 2006
From: coder_infidel at hotmail.com (Luke Dunstan)
Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 12:20:57 +0800
Subject: [PythonCE] pickle problem on 2.3.4 pythonCE (for wxPython)
In-Reply-To: <b08da1af0605272025r11a7b146n74390b7b3bf420c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY109-F5B55BFFD0A5EB1C6BD4E28A9C0@phx.gbl>


>From: "Matt S." <sleepingbull at gmail.com>
>To: "Luke Dunstan" <coder_infidel at hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [PythonCE] pickle problem on 2.3.4 pythonCE (for wxPython)
>Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 20:25:46 -0700
>
>Python 2.3.4 is the only Python interpreter I've seen wxPython
>compiled with for CE.  Did it work for you on 2.3.4 or 2.4.3?  If it
>did work on 2.4.3 for you do you have wxPython running as well?
>Thanks for the follow up.
>
>Matt

Yes, 2.4.3. Sorry, I don't have wxPython running as well. You might want to 
try 2.3.5 but I haven't tried it so there is no guarantee that it will fix 
the problem.

Luke

>
>On 5/27/06, Luke Dunstan <coder_infidel at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>Hi,
>>
>>Your test program works for me on PythonCE 2.4.3.
>>
>>Luke
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Matt S." <sleepingbull at gmail.com>
>>To: <pythonce at python.org>
>>Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 3:47 AM
>>Subject: [PythonCE] pickle problem on 2.3.4 pythonCE (for wxPython)
>>
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I'm trying to make a data collection UI for Windows CE using the
>> > wxPyCE distribution (which uses Python 2.3.4)  found at,
>> >
>> > http://www.traybor.com/PythonCE/
>> >
>> > It's gone well so far but I'm running into a serious data pickling
>> > problem.  Ideally I would like to pickle a class instance.
>> >
>> > Saving and loading the pickled class works fine on my PC (Python 2.4x),
>> >
>> > *pickleDump.py*
>> > f = open('pickle_file.pyp', 'r')
>> > pickle.dump(my_class_instance, f)
>> >
>> > *pickleLoad.py*
>> > f = open('saved_pickle.pyp', 'r')
>> > my_pickled_class_instance = pickle.load(f)
>> >
>> > In my UI module the pickling are methods in a class.  Also, "my_class"
>> > is actually, "another_module.top_level_class.data," wherein ".data" is
>> > a dictionary with keys that are person names and values that are the
>> > corresponding person instance.
>> >
>> > Realizing that I'm probably breaking the pickling rules with pickling
>> > my data class, I changed "my_class" in *pickleDump.py* to a simple
>> > dictionary...  and it still failed on CE.  Fortunately, simplifying my
>> > data to a simple list does pickle.  So, in the worst case I can
>> > convert my data into lists (not pretty so if you have a better
>> > workaround idea I'd really appreciate it).
>> >
>> > Here's the traceback from my attempt to load the pickled dictionary,
>> >
>> > Traceback (most recent call last):
>> >  File "\Program Files\python\dev\pickleLoad.py", line 10, in ?
>> >    var = pickle.load(f)
>> >  File "binaries\lib\pickle.py", line 1390, in load
>> >  File "binaries\lib\pickle.py", line 872, in load
>> >  File "binaries\lib\pickle.py", line 985, in load_string
>> > LookupError: no codec search functions registered: can't find encoding
>> >
>> > Here are my test modules,
>> >
>> > *pickleDump.py*
>> >
>> > import pickle, traceback, sys
>> >
>> > f = open('test.txt','w')
>> > error = open('dump_error.txt','w')
>> > sys.stderr = error
>> > log = open('dump_out.txt','w')
>> > sys.stdout = log
>> >
>> > #var = [n for n in range(10)]
>> > var = {'parm1':1, 'parm2':'2a'}
>> >
>> > try:
>> >
>> >    pickle.dump(var,f)
>> >    print 'Pickled dumped OK in,', __file__
>> > except:
>> >    traceback.print_exc()
>> >    print 'Pickle dump failed! in', __file__
>> >
>> > f.close()
>> >
>> >
>> > *pickleLoad.py*
>> >
>> > import pickle, sys, traceback
>> >
>> > e = open('load_error.txt','w')
>> > sys.stderr = e
>> > s = open('load_out.txt','w')
>> > sys.stdout = s
>> >
>> > try:
>> >    f = open('test.txt','r')
>> >    var = pickle.load(f)
>> >    print 'Pickle loaded OK in,', __file__
>> >    print var
>> > except:
>> >
>> >    traceback.print_exc()
>> >    print 'Pickle not loaded in,', __file__
>> >
>> > Many thanks for your help,
>> > Matt
>>



From sleepingbull at gmail.com  Sun May 28 23:03:57 2006
From: sleepingbull at gmail.com (Matt S.)
Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 14:03:57 -0700
Subject: [PythonCE] pickle problem on 2.3.4 pythonCE (for wxPython)
In-Reply-To: <BAY109-F5B55BFFD0A5EB1C6BD4E28A9C0@phx.gbl>
References: <b08da1af0605272025r11a7b146n74390b7b3bf420c@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY109-F5B55BFFD0A5EB1C6BD4E28A9C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <b08da1af0605281403h2459ffaeu98e12319b30f04fb@mail.gmail.com>

Good news.  I tried pickling with "cPickle" and it works for pickling
dictionaries and classes where "pickle" didn't.  I guess this arises
from the fact that per the documentation, "cPickle can be up to 1000
times faster than pickle because the former is implemented in C." If
anyone can expound on this great.  But for now I'm very pleased that
pickling is supported on pythonCE with wxPython.

Here's my updated test code,

*pickleDump.py*

import cPickle as pickle
import traceback, sys

"""

    This test works on PythonCE 2.3.4, the most recent version of
    PythonCE for which I've found wxPython compiled.

"""

class cdata:
    """

        This class emulates the data class I was originally trying
        to pickle.  Although pickle didn't seem to work for classes
        or dictionaries, cPickle worked for both.  I had to
        include the instance class in the load module in order to unpickle
        the pickled instance data.

    """
    def __init__(self, x):
        self.data = x

f = open('test.txt','w')
error = open('dump_error.txt','w')
sys.stderr = error
log = open('dump_out.txt','w')
sys.stdout = log

#var = [n for n in range(10)]
var = {'parm1':1, 'parm2':'2a'}

try:
    tdata = cdata(var)
    print tdata.__dict__['data']
    pickle.dump(tdata,f)
    print 'Pickled dumped OK in,', __file__
except:
    traceback.print_exc()
    print 'Pickle dump failed! in', __file__

f.close()


*pickleLoad.py*

import cPickle as pickle
import sys, traceback

class cdata:
    """

        This class emulates the data class I was originally trying
        to pickle.  Although pickle didn't seem to work for classes
        or dictionaries, cPickle worked for both.  I had to
        include the instance class in the load module in order to unpickle
        the pickled instance data.

    """
    def __init__(self, x):
        self.data = x

e = open('load_error.txt','w')
sys.stderr = e
s = open('load_out.txt','w')
sys.stdout = s

try:
    f = open('test.txt','r')
    var = pickle.load(f)
    print 'Pickle loaded OK in,', __file__
    print var.data
except:

    traceback.print_exc()
    print 'Pickle not loaded in,', __file__