From jbauer@rubic.com  Fri Feb 15 14:53:23 2002
From: jbauer@rubic.com (Jeff Bauer)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 08:53:23 -0600
Subject: [Pythonce] PythonCE mailing list has moved
Message-ID: <3C6D20E3.89EA6A3@rubic.com>

Hi all.

Finally some relief from Yahoo popup ads:

  WE'RE MOVING THE MAILING LIST!

The PythonCE mailing list was originally
started a few years ago on egroups.com,
which was subsequently acquired by Yahoo.
Since then several list members have complained
about Yahoo's aggressive advertising.  As
promised last month, I have looked into moving
the list to a new home.

Barry Warsaw of Zope PythonLabs (and author
of Mailmain) was kind enough to start a new
PythonCE mailing list on python.org. <applause>

To limit undesired attachments, I've set the
maximum length of the message body to 20Kb.  If
anyone finds this limit onerous, please email
me privately.  As always, we encourage list
participants to turn html formatting OFF.

We are not automatically transferring Yahoo
list members to the new list.  You should
first unsubscribe from the Yahoo list:

  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/python-ce/

and then join the new PythonCE list:

  http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce

Archives for old messages will continue to be 
available on the Yahoo list, but I *strongly*
encourage all new messages to be posted on the 
Mailman list.


Jeff Bauer
Rubicon Research


From alife@narod.ru  Fri Feb 15 17:52:37 2002
From: alife@narod.ru (Serge A. Terekhoff)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 22:52:37 +0500
Subject: [PythonCE] Casio E115
Message-ID: <NCEKLHMAHKDIKKPAILJHEEELCEAA.alife@narod.ru>

Dear All

Could anybody recommend the Python version for
Casio E-115 Pocket PC (MIPS)

Thanks
Serge A. Terekhoff


From jorgelr@stud.ntnu.no  Sat Feb 16 23:21:26 2002
From: jorgelr@stud.ntnu.no (=?iso-8859-1?B?Sm9yZyBS+GRzavg=?=)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 00:21:26 +0100
Subject: [PythonCE] Re: [python-ce] Re: win32con ?
References: <a39hin+e1cf@eGroups.com>; from jorgelr@stud.ntnu.no on Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 07:29:27PM -0000 <3C590C14.16228.3CE7D25B@localhost>
Message-ID: <004401c1b740$a7cf86b0$b120f181@hf.ntnu.no>

>> Does this mean all the memory on the ipaq was exhausted, or can I by some
>> sleight of hand (or any other method for that matter) increase how much
>> memory python can use?
>>

>Settings/System/Memory - adjust the slider to increase memory allocoated
for
>programs.

Hm. Did not seem to do anythin. And that damn slider seems to slide back on
its own accord. Weird.

-jorg




From jorgelr@stud.ntnu.no  Sat Feb 16 23:24:48 2002
From: jorgelr@stud.ntnu.no (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jorg_E_=2E_R=F8dsj=F8?=)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 00:24:48 +0100
Subject: [PythonCE] win32gui
Message-ID: <20020217002448.A12575@stud.ntnu.no>

Hi

I am currently involved in a project at my university (www.ntnu.no),
developing a shared workspace system running on ipaqs and stationary
computers.

We are at the moment looking at different languages, and we have tried
python on the ipaq running WinCE(2002 to be presice.) Which seems to work
ok.
Our current problem is the lack of gui. We see win32gui is there, but the
documentation seems to be skimpy at best. And our searches for more have
been to no avail.

We tried to use anygui, which should be able to run using win23gui, but we
are unable to import it without errors.

Can anyone give us, or point us to some resources when it comes to using
win32gui?

Any and all help would be greatly appreciated, as we are hoping to avoid
using embedded C++ or VB.

-jorg




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From bkc@murkworks.com  Sun Feb 17 16:14:33 2002
From: bkc@murkworks.com (Brad Clements)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 11:14:33 -0500
Subject: [PythonCE] win32gui
In-Reply-To: <20020217002448.A12575@stud.ntnu.no>
Message-ID: <3C6F9099.15050.3CA9C78@localhost>

On 17 Feb 2002 at 0:24, Jorg E . R=F8dsj=F8 wrote:

> Can anyone give us, or point us to some resources when it comes to using
> win32gui?
> 
> Any and all help would be greatly appreciated, as we are hoping to avoid
> using embedded C++ or VB.


Win32gui gives you access to the win32 GUI interface. That interface is do=
cumented in 
the windows SDK.

Probably the simplest thing to do is to use dialogs windows. There's an ex=
ample of 
creating a dialog in the win32ui demos. However win32gui includes the dyna=
mic dialog 
stuff as well.

In the latest win32all package, look for the win32gui_dialog.py as an exam=
ple that 
should work on CE.




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From bkc@murkworks.com  Tue Feb 19 16:50:12 2002
From: bkc@murkworks.com (Brad Clements)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 11:50:12 -0500
Subject: [PythonCE] Wince Python 2.2 patches
Message-ID: <3C723BF5.2193.A39CE3E@localhost>

FYI, My patches are still "stalled", waiting for acceptance.

I'm not going to pester the gatekeepers for another week, guess they have to recover 
from IPC10.

However I just received a PC 2002 upgrade for my Compaq, gonna try it, hope it's 
worth $40!



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From Dennis@AdHocIS.com  Thu Feb 21 07:11:12 2002
From: Dennis@AdHocIS.com (Dennis Houchin)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 23:11:12 -0800
Subject: [PythonCE] Python2.2 on Jornada 720
Message-ID: <004701c1baa6$f37a98c0$0200a8c0@Admin.local>

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Greetings,

I've installed the 2.2+  onto my Jornada 720 according to the =
instructions in the Release Notes. When I attempt to run it (using =
Start|Run|Browse...), all I get is an error saying "Cannot find 'Pocket =
PC Python' (or one of it components)..." This message occurs regardless =
of whether or not I specify any arguments for it.

After verifying the program location, I copied the following files into =
the ....\python\lib to make it easier for wince to find the components, =
but it did not make any difference. The files I copied are (leaving the =
originals in their installed locations):
                Pocket PC Python.exe
                win32gui.pyd
                win32event.pyd
                python22.dll
                PyWinTypes22.dll

I also tried renaming 'Pocket PC Python.exe' to 'Python.exe' to =
eliminate any potential problems with the spaces in the name. This =
didn't make any difference either.

I checked the previous message board and found notes from people that =
were going to try it on this machine, but nothing from anyone that had =
success.

Has anyone been able to get this running on the Jornada 720 (HPC2000)? =
Have I overlooked something obvious (to someone other than me)?=20

I would appreciate any insight you could give me into making this work.

Thanks,

Dennis Houchin



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Jornada 720=20
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occurs=20
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it.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>After verifying the program location, I =
copied the=20
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find the=20
components, but it did not make any difference. The files I copied are =
(leaving=20
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; win32gui.pyd</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; win32event.pyd</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I also tried renaming 'Pocket PC =
Python.exe' to=20
'Python.exe' to eliminate any potential problems with the spaces in the =
name.=20
This didn't make any difference either.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I checked the previous message board =
and found=20
notes from people that were going to try it on this machine, but nothing =
from=20
anyone that had success.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Has anyone&nbsp;been able to get this =
running on=20
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someone other=20
than me)? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I would appreciate any insight you =
could give me=20
into making this work.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks,<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dennis Houchin</DIV></FONT>
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From bkc@murkworks.com  Thu Feb 21 16:26:35 2002
From: bkc@murkworks.com (Brad Clements)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 11:26:35 -0500
Subject: [PythonCE] Python2.2 on Jornada 720
In-Reply-To: <004701c1baa6$f37a98c0$0200a8c0@Admin.local>
Message-ID: <3C74D5A8.29892.964667C@localhost>

Is this a strong arm machine?


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From neil_okamoto@yahoo.com  Thu Feb 21 17:49:29 2002
From: neil_okamoto@yahoo.com (Neil Okamoto)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 09:49:29 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [PythonCE] Re: Python2.2 on Jornada 720
Message-ID: <20020221174929.91693.qmail@web20210.mail.yahoo.com>

I have a Jornada 720 too. It's a strongarm in the hpc
form factor. I had the same problem running the
python2.2 build, but I must say I didn't try as hard
as Dennis to get it to work :)

n


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From bkc@murkworks.com  Thu Feb 21 18:04:51 2002
From: bkc@murkworks.com (Brad Clements)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:04:51 -0500
Subject: [PythonCE] Re: Python2.2 on Jornada 720
In-Reply-To: <20020221174929.91693.qmail@web20210.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3C74ECB0.29095.9BE5F0F@localhost>

Which version of CE is on this?



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From Dennis@AdHocIS.com  Thu Feb 21 18:02:24 2002
From: Dennis@AdHocIS.com (Dennis Houchin)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 10:02:24 -0800
Subject: [PythonCE] Python2.2 on Jornada 720
References: <3C74D5A8.29892.964667C@localhost>
Message-ID: <001801c1bb01$ed0b59b0$0200a8c0@Admin.local>

Yes, it uses the 206MHz StrongARM SA-1110 processor.

http://products.hp-at-home.com/products/detail_print.php?id=F1816A&display_s
pecs=full_spec&j=1

Brad Wrote:
> Is this a strong arm machine?




From fujimoto@tsuda.ac.jp  Wed Feb 27 12:02:08 2002
From: fujimoto@tsuda.ac.jp (kazuo fujimoto)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 21:02:08 +0900
Subject: [PythonCE] gadafly on WindowsCE
Message-ID: <20020227205756.E65B.FUJIMOTO@tsuda.ac.jp>

Hi,

Recently I begin to use Zope. Then I find that gadfly is written by
Python. So I am trying to use gadfly on WindowsCE(2.11 mips).

Does anyone hava a experience to use gadfly on WindowsCE ?

Kazuo Fujimoto

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From jbauer@rubic.com  Wed Feb 27 14:06:51 2002
From: jbauer@rubic.com (Jeff Bauer)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 08:06:51 -0600
Subject: [PythonCE] gadafly on WindowsCE
References: <20020227205756.E65B.FUJIMOTO@tsuda.ac.jp>
Message-ID: <3C7CE7FB.E65F9B9E@rubic.com>

Kazuo,

I recall getting it to work a couple years ago.  Also, I
think Aaron Watters (author of Gadfly) had a working version
on his CE device. It was very slow.  I was mainly testing
it as a client, connected a Gadfly server over the network,
which would be interesting if usable wireless connections
ever become available (e.g. 802.11b, bluetooth, etc.).

Jeff Bauer
Rubicon Research


kazuo fujimoto wrote:
> Recently I begin to use Zope. Then I find that gadfly is
> written by Python. So I am trying to use gadfly on WindowsCE
> (2.11 mips).
> 
> Does anyone hava a experience to use gadfly on WindowsCE ?


From kfujimoto@mx2.memorex.co.jp  Thu Feb 28 01:11:21 2002
From: kfujimoto@mx2.memorex.co.jp (Kazuo Fujimoto)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 10:11:21 +0900
Subject: [PythonCE] gadafly on WindowsCE
In-Reply-To: <3C7CE7FB.E65F9B9E@rubic.com>
References: <20020227205756.E65B.FUJIMOTO@tsuda.ac.jp> <3C7CE7FB.E65F9B9E@rubic.com>
Message-ID: <20020228100940.108B.KFUJIMOTO@mx2.memorex.co.jp>

Jeff,

Thank you for your reply.

I try to ask Aaron on it.

By the way is it specific modules for CE, or same modules ?

kazuo

On Wed, 27 Feb 2002 08:06:51 -0600
Jeff Bauer <jbauer@rubic.com> wrote:

> Kazuo,
> 
> I recall getting it to work a couple years ago.  Also, I
> think Aaron Watters (author of Gadfly) had a working version
> on his CE device. It was very slow.  I was mainly testing
> it as a client, connected a Gadfly server over the network,
> which would be interesting if usable wireless connections
> ever become available (e.g. 802.11b, bluetooth, etc.).
> 
> Jeff Bauer
> Rubicon Research
> 
> 
> kazuo fujimoto wrote:
> > Recently I begin to use Zope. Then I find that gadfly is
> > written by Python. So I am trying to use gadfly on WindowsCE
> > (2.11 mips).
> > 
> > Does anyone hava a experience to use gadfly on WindowsCE ?

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