From ynd at lntenc.com  Tue Dec  1 14:00:10 2009
From: ynd at lntenc.com (Yagnesh Desai)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 18:30:10 +0530
Subject: [PythonCAD] AutoCAD userfriendly
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From ynd at lntenc.com  Tue Dec  1 14:03:41 2009
From: ynd at lntenc.com (Yagnesh Desai)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 18:33:41 +0530
Subject: [PythonCAD] Pythoncad as supporting 2D addon
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From glenn at chromakinetics.com  Tue Dec  1 15:54:45 2009
From: glenn at chromakinetics.com (Glenn Meader)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 06:54:45 -0800
Subject: [PythonCAD] PythonCAD should remain focused on 2D until complete
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Interesting suggestions on 3D, embedding, etc. -- but there is so much work
to do just to make a decent 2D CAD tool!
 
Look at the feature request list on the Wiki:
 
http://morgul.no-ip.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=feature_requests
 
After basic 2D functionality is complete, it would be nice to have a better
user-interface with toolbar, right-click menus and more information about
what's happening being displayed. 
 
AutoCAD has an old, poor user interface. I'd like to see a modern, well
thought out UI, perhaps like Vectorworks.
 
What CAD packages have user interfaces that you admire?

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From jantonio.martin at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 16:04:08 2009
From: jantonio.martin at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Antonio_Mart=EDn_Prieto?=)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 16:04:08 +0100
Subject: [PythonCAD] PythonCAD should remain focused on 2D until complete
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I completely agree with Glenn.

Regards,
Jos? Antonio

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Glenn Meader <glenn at chromakinetics.com> wrote:
> Interesting suggestions on 3D, embedding, etc. -- but there is so much work
> to do just to make a decent 2D CAD tool!
>
> Look at the feature request list on the Wiki:
>
> http://morgul.no-ip.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=feature_requests
>
> After basic 2D functionality is complete, it would be nice to have a?better
> user-interface with toolbar, right-click menus and more information about
> what's happening being displayed.
>
> AutoCAD?has an old, poor user interface. I'd like to see a modern, well
> thought out UI, perhaps like Vectorworks.
>
> What CAD packages have user interfaces that you admire?
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From euro_ii at libero.it  Tue Dec  1 20:03:54 2009
From: euro_ii at libero.it (euro_ii at libero.it)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 20:03:54 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [PythonCAD] R: Re: PythonCAD should remain focused on 2D until
 complete
Message-ID: <20241813.1383611259694234954.JavaMail.root@wmail21>

Ok Guys ...

I do not like Autocad at All... it's an old slow program ...

If 
you try GBG DraftMaker M10  FreeToDesing you can understand what is a good 
mecanical 2d cad ....

For my point of view, we have to think at what feature 
really help the user do develop a fast 2d drawing...
Actually 90% of the 
Mechanical parts need a 2d Drawing to be done ...( OK most of this caming from 
3d )..
Actually all the opensource 3d program have a very beed 2d parts ...(May 
be they need PythonCad) 

So i think that we need to explore in deep the 
iso/ansi/jis standards and put as mutch as possible in PythonCad.

I like the 
user interface like it is ...
Of course we need a toolbar .. as Gertwin suggest 
a configurable palette will be a good idea ...Most the people that use Autocad 
have thousend of icons on the application, but they most used are 4/5 of it..


Now me and the developer team have started the R38 version ...

We can decide 
all togheder witch feature to implement for that version.

I think that we can 
start to think at the user interface for the R40 ......


Thanks
Matteo
 




>----Messaggio originale----
>Da: jantonio.martin at gmail.com
>Data: 01/12/2009 
16.04
>A: "Glenn Meader"<glenn at chromakinetics.com>
>Cc: <pythoncad at python.org>

>Ogg: Re: [PythonCAD] PythonCAD should remain focused on 2D until complete
>
>I 
completely agree with Glenn.
>
>Regards,
>Jos? Antonio
>
>On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 
at 3:54 PM, Glenn Meader <glenn at chromakinetics.com> wrote:
>> Interesting 
suggestions on 3D, embedding, etc. -- but there is so much work
>> to do just 
to make a decent 2D CAD tool!
>>
>> Look at the feature request list on the 
Wiki:
>>
>> http://morgul.no-ip.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=feature_requests
>>
>> 
After basic 2D functionality is complete, it would be nice to have a?better
>> 
user-interface with toolbar, right-click menus and more information about
>> 
what's happening being displayed.
>>
>> AutoCAD?has an old, poor user 
interface. I'd like to see a modern, well
>> thought out UI, perhaps like 
Vectorworks.
>>
>> What CAD packages have user interfaces that you admire?
>> 
________________________________
>>
>>
>>
>> 
_______________________________________________
>> PythonCAD mailing list
>> 
PythonCAD at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythoncad
>>
>>

>
>
>
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>"In a world without frontiers, who needs Gates and Windows?

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From ynd at lntenc.com  Wed Dec  2 04:33:43 2009
From: ynd at lntenc.com (Yagnesh Desai)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 09:03:43 +0530
Subject: [PythonCAD] PythonCAD should remain focused on 2D until complete
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From ynd at lntenc.com  Wed Dec  2 04:41:01 2009
From: ynd at lntenc.com (Yagnesh Desai)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 09:11:01 +0530
Subject: [PythonCAD] R: Re: PythonCAD should remain focused on 2D until
	complete
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From ynd at lntenc.com  Thu Dec  3 11:40:31 2009
From: ynd at lntenc.com (Yagnesh Desai)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 16:10:31 +0530
Subject: [PythonCAD] What is in plan for R38
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From euro_ii at libero.it  Fri Dec  4 17:33:18 2009
From: euro_ii at libero.it (euro_ii at libero.it)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 17:33:18 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [PythonCAD] And of R37 start R38
Message-ID: <11191067.1682621259944398708.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost>

Hi All,
The PythonCad Developer Team, are in the middle of a very deep 
PythonCad restructure.

We are going to strongly use Cairo for all the viewport 
operation to improve performance in zooming and redrawing the working area.


For this reason going on and implements new feature in the R37 It's for as like 
make two times the some job.

For this i would like to close the R37 like it is 
without the feature that i had indicate in the past mails.

So this is the main 
feature that we are going to move in R38

* Easy Way to modify line arc 
dimension.... with double click
* Titleblock with iso Format
* Hatch
* Dynamic 
Trim
* Modify interface to improve working color and text height 


.. of 
course R37 will be supported for bug fixing .

Let me know if there is some 
problems with this decision.

Thanks
Matteo




From ynd at lntenc.com  Sat Dec 12 12:32:05 2009
From: ynd at lntenc.com (Yagnesh Desai)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:02:05 +0530
Subject: [PythonCAD] Private Development related discussions
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From euro_ii at libero.it  Sat Dec 12 15:56:57 2009
From: euro_ii at libero.it (euro_ii at libero.it)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:56:57 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [PythonCAD] R:  Private Development related discussions
Message-ID: <26943845.2237261260629817688.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost>


 What you wrote is right and I agree with you ... we need to write more public E-Mail ...

The reason why I wrote personal E-Mails is that I Usually replay directly to the people who address their messages to my private E-Mail.

Regards,

Matteo

 

 
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Dear Matteo;

You are good help to developers of 
pythoncad and I appreciate your 
efforts.

However there are lot of emails which are being
exchanged which are private and are not 
documented on the mailing list.

Also on sourceforge we have 2 mailing list active
and forums also active. We need to have only one
mailing list for developer and only one for user.

This will help all the developer to keep track
of what is happening.

RegardsYagnesh DesaiSave a tree : Think before printing this email.
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From ynd at lntenc.com  Mon Dec 14 05:17:53 2009
From: ynd at lntenc.com (Yagnesh Desai)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:47:53 +0530
Subject: [PythonCAD] How to post to pythoncad-developer on sourceforge.net
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From euro_ii at libero.it  Mon Dec 14 09:48:24 2009
From: euro_ii at libero.it (euro_ii at libero.it)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:48:24 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [PythonCAD] R: How to post to pythoncad-developer on sourceforge.net
Message-ID: <6572351.2290231260780504587.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost>


Dear Yagnesh,


>I think we should use pythoncad at pthon.org for user
>mailing list.

For me it's ok ..


>Can you please elaborate how to subscribe to the
>pythoncad-developer mailing list hosted at sourceforge.net.

All sourceforge user logged in pythoncad project are automaticly subscribed at the list..
just send an email at pythoncad-developer at lists.sourceforge.net 

Regards,
Matteo

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Dear Matteo;
 
I think we should use pythoncad at pthon.org for user
mailing list. While pythoncad-developer which is listed
at sourceforge.net as the developer's miling list.
 
Can you please elaborate how to subscribe to the
pythoncad-developer mailing list hosted at sourceforge.net.
 
Regards
 
Yagnesh Desai
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From euro_ii at libero.it  Mon Dec 14 10:31:11 2009
From: euro_ii at libero.it (euro_ii at libero.it)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 10:31:11 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [PythonCAD] R: R: How to post to pythoncad-developer on
 sourceforge.net
Message-ID: <13009508.2295531260783071481.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost>


 Any one who wish to suscribe at the developer mailing list just send an e mail at :

pythoncad-developer at lists.sourceforge.net

I will approve the new incoming member ..

The sourceforge developer-mailinglist is public so just go:

sourceforge.net to look at the mail..



Regards,

Matteo

 

 
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Dear Yagnesh,


>I think we should use pythoncad at pthon.org for user
>mailing list.
For me it's ok ..

>Can you please elaborate how to subscribe to the
>pythoncad-developer mailing list hosted at sourceforge.net.
All sourceforge user logged in pythoncad project are automaticly subscribed at the list..
just send an email at pythoncad-developer at lists.sourceforge.net 
Regards,
Matteo

----Messaggio originale---- Da: ynd at lntenc.com Data: 14/12/2009 5.17 A: "pythoncad at python.org"<pythoncad at python.org> Ogg: [PythonCAD] How to post to pythoncad-developer on sourceforge.net  
Dear Matteo;
 
I think we should use pythoncad at pthon.org for user
mailing list. While pythoncad-developer which is listed
at sourceforge.net as the developer's miling list.
 
Can you please elaborate how to subscribe to the
pythoncad-developer mailing list hosted at sourceforge.net.
 
Regards
 
Yagnesh Desai
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Can you please elaborate how to subscribe to the
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From ynd at lntenc.com  Sun Dec 20 18:09:06 2009
From: ynd at lntenc.com (Yagnesh Desai)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 22:39:06 +0530
Subject: [PythonCAD] Collada format (xml based 3D data transfer)
Message-ID: <OF533FA0A4.434796F9-ON65257692.005E3774-65257692.005E3795@lntenc.com>



Friends;

Pythoncad uses xml based format to save the file
now this is Non-Standard format (ie not based on
any of the published standard) and cannot
be opened by any other softwares.

I came across this Collada format
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COLLADA
while looking at Google Sketchup.
(There must be something in this format
as google sketchup is supporting it out of box . . !)

If we migrate to (or support) something like such
a format we might make pythoncad more utilizable.

There are host of softwares supporting this format.

Regards

Yagnesh Desai
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From gertwin.groen at gmail.com  Sun Dec 20 22:44:22 2009
From: gertwin.groen at gmail.com (gertwin.groen at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 21:44:22 +0000
Subject: [PythonCAD] Collada format (xml based 3D data transfer)
In-Reply-To: <OF533FA0A4.434796F9-ON65257692.005E3774-65257692.005E3795@lntenc.com>
Message-ID: <001485e9abf33c17a2047b2fe087@google.com>

Hi Yangnesh,

Did you look at the schema?
The collada schema only supports a subset of the geometric entities  
PythonCAD support.
I PythonCAD was a full 3D CAD program you had a point but I don't see the  
use for a 2D CAD program.
You can never make PythonCAD read or write a collada file without  
significant loss of data.

I think this is not in line with the original principles of PythonCAD:
* a 2D CAD program
* fully programmed in python.

Are there any common file formats for 2D CAD files besides dxf?

Regards,
Gertwin


On Dec 20, 2009 6:09pm, Yagnesh Desai <ynd at lntenc.com> wrote:


> Friends;



> Pythoncad uses xml based format to save the file

> now this is Non-Standard format (ie not based on

> any of the published standard) and cannot

> be opened by any other softwares.



> I came across this Collada format

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COLLADA

> while looking at Google Sketchup.

> (There must be something in this format

> as google sketchup is supporting it out of box . . !)



> If we migrate to (or support) something like such

> a format we might make pythoncad more utilizable.



> There are host of softwares supporting this format.



> Regards



> Yagnesh Desai

> Save a tree : Think before printing this email.

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From glenn at chromakinetics.com  Sun Dec 20 23:12:19 2009
From: glenn at chromakinetics.com (Glenn Meader)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:12:19 -0800
Subject: [PythonCAD] Collada format in Python
In-Reply-To: <001485e9abf33c17a2047b2fe087@google.com>
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	<001485e9abf33c17a2047b2fe087@google.com>
Message-ID: <28BD788F189C4683AF4ADF38C9C4A99F@glennlaptop>

I agree that Collada file format does not look very useful for a 2D CAD
program such as PythonCAD.
 
There are however several Pythom libraries available to work with Collada
files.
Just Google: Python Collada

  _____  

From: pythoncad-bounces+glenn=chromakinetics.com at python.org
[mailto:pythoncad-bounces+glenn=chromakinetics.com at python.org] On Behalf Of
gertwin.groen at gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 1:44 PM
To: Yagnesh Desai
Cc: pythoncad at python.org; pythoncad-developer at lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PythonCAD] Collada format (xml based 3D data transfer)


Hi Yangnesh,

Did you look at the schema?
The collada schema only supports a subset of the geometric entities
PythonCAD support.
I PythonCAD was a full 3D CAD program you had a point but I don't see the
use for a 2D CAD program.
You can never make PythonCAD read or write a collada file without
significant loss of data.

I think this is not in line with the original principles of PythonCAD:
* a 2D CAD program
* fully programmed in python.

Are there any common file formats for 2D CAD files besides dxf?

Regards,
Gertwin


On Dec 20, 2009 6:09pm, Yagnesh Desai <ynd at lntenc.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Friends;
> 
> 
> 
> Pythoncad uses xml based format to save the file
> 
> now this is Non-Standard format (ie not based on
> 
> any of the published standard) and cannot
> 
> be opened by any other softwares.
> 
> 
> 
> I came across this Collada format
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COLLADA
> 
> while looking at Google Sketchup.
> 
> (There must be something in this format
> 
> as google sketchup is supporting it out of box . . !)
> 
> 
> 
> If we migrate to (or support) something like such
> 
> a format we might make pythoncad more utilizable.
> 
> 
> 
> There are host of softwares supporting this format.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> 
> Yagnesh Desai
> 
> Save a tree : Think before printing this email.
> 
> Disclaimer :This email and any files transmitted with it are intended
solely for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain confidential
and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee, then this
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From yndesai at gmail.com  Sat Dec 26 17:44:01 2009
From: yndesai at gmail.com (Yagnesh Desai)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 22:14:01 +0530
Subject: [PythonCAD] AUTOCAD 256 : RGB chart
Message-ID: <1d5ce5760912260844l5c3b3bbq5f3e9b026453c928@mail.gmail.com>

Friends;

Does anyone have table for autocad 256 colors
with corresponding rgb color values.

It will be great help in importing dxf file with colors.

------
Best regards

Yagnesh Desai

Save a tree...please don't print this e-mail
as it will never be deleted from "GMAIL"

From gertwin.groen at gmail.com  Sun Dec 27 19:50:55 2009
From: gertwin.groen at gmail.com (gertwin.groen at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:50:55 +0000
Subject: [PythonCAD] AUTOCAD 256 : RGB chart
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Hi Yagnesh,

You mean this: http://bitsy.sub-atomic.com/~moses/acadcolors.html

Regards,
Gertwin


On Dec 26, 2009 5:44pm, Yagnesh Desai <yndesai at gmail.com> wrote:
> Friends;



> Does anyone have table for autocad 256 colors

> with corresponding rgb color values.



> It will be great help in importing dxf file with colors.



> ------

> Best regards



> Yagnesh Desai



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From matteo.boscolo at boscolini.eu  Mon Dec 21 07:54:41 2009
From: matteo.boscolo at boscolini.eu (Matteo Boscolo)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 06:54:41 -0000
Subject: [PythonCAD] Collada format in Python
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Hi All,

Collada File format seems interesting even if in the future when we well
work side by side with a 3d program ... (if we well find one )

Do not forget that our file is an xml file (clear text ) so anyone can
read it ..

so we can add this as a Traker wish ... but i hope we focus our
attention on the actual open traker ;-)

Regards,
Matteo 



On Sun, 2009-12-20 at 14:12 -0800, Glenn Meader wrote:
> I agree that Collada file format does not look very useful for a 2D
> CAD program such as PythonCAD.
>  
> There are however several Pythom libraries available to work with
> Collada files.
> Just Google: Python Collada
> 
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> From: pythoncad-bounces+glenn=chromakinetics.com at python.org
> [mailto:pythoncad-bounces+glenn=chromakinetics.com at python.org] On
> Behalf Of gertwin.groen at gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 1:44 PM
> To: Yagnesh Desai
> Cc: pythoncad at python.org; pythoncad-developer at lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [PythonCAD] Collada format (xml based 3D data transfer)
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Yangnesh,
> 
> Did you look at the schema?
> The collada schema only supports a subset of the geometric entities
> PythonCAD support.
> I PythonCAD was a full 3D CAD program you had a point but I don't see
> the use for a 2D CAD program.
> You can never make PythonCAD read or write a collada file without
> significant loss of data.
> 
> I think this is not in line with the original principles of PythonCAD:
> * a 2D CAD program
> * fully programmed in python.
> 
> Are there any common file formats for 2D CAD files besides dxf?
> 
> Regards,
> Gertwin
> 
> 
> On Dec 20, 2009 6:09pm, Yagnesh Desai <ynd at lntenc.com> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Friends;
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Pythoncad uses xml based format to save the file
> > 
> > now this is Non-Standard format (ie not based on
> > 
> > any of the published standard) and cannot
> > 
> > be opened by any other softwares.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I came across this Collada format
> > 
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COLLADA
> > 
> > while looking at Google Sketchup.
> > 
> > (There must be something in this format
> > 
> > as google sketchup is supporting it out of box . . !)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > If we migrate to (or support) something like such
> > 
> > a format we might make pythoncad more utilizable.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > There are host of softwares supporting this format.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Yagnesh Desai
> > 
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From nrad at eunet.rs  Sun Dec 27 17:45:38 2009
From: nrad at eunet.rs (Nikola Radovanovic)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:45:38 +0100
Subject: [PythonCAD]  AUTOCAD 256 : RGB chart
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http://bitsy.sub-atomic.com/~moses/acadcolors.html