From skippy.hammond at gmail.com  Tue Feb  1 00:44:19 2011
From: skippy.hammond at gmail.com (Mark Hammond)
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 10:44:19 +1100
Subject: [python-win32] Problem with msvcr90.dll
In-Reply-To: <1296474888.4858.21.camel@cacko>
References: <1296474888.4858.21.camel@cacko>
Message-ID: <4D474953.3010409@gmail.com>

This stuff is painful and poorly documented.  Is it possible the code 
which triggers the failing import is on a different thread than the one 
which loaded Python?  If so, I suspect the magic done by Python in 
dl_nt.c may not be kicking in, which is supposed to ensure all python 
modules are loaded using the "activation context" defined by pythonxx.dll.

HTH,

Mark

On 31/01/2011 10:54 PM, Tefnet Developers wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am developing a msgina replacement.
>
> I am at the point where I have the whole Gina API handled in python (a
> dll written in C, calling methods of a python object).
>
> My problem is that somehow my program cannot import pywin32 modules:
>
>
> Jan 31 12:12:41 p11 pygina: callproxy.caller:      File"c:\teflogon\system_nt.py", line 4, in<module>
> Jan 31 12:12:41 p11 pygina: callproxy.caller:          import pywintypes
> Jan 31 12:12:41 p11 pygina: callproxy.caller:      File"C:\Python26\lib\site-packages\win32\lib\pywintypes.py", line 124, in<module>
> Jan 31 12:12:41 p11 pygina: callproxy.caller:          __import_pywin32_system_module__("pywintypes", globals())
> Jan 31 12:12:41 p11 pygina: callproxy.caller:      File"C:\Python26\lib\site-packages\win32\lib\pywintypes.py", line 64, in __import_pywin32_system_module__
> Jan 31 12:12:41 p11 pygina: callproxy.caller:          import _win32sysloader
> Jan 31 12:12:41 p11 pygina: callproxy.caller: ImportError: DLL load failed: The specified module could not be found
>
>
> I did a check and replaced the failing method with execution of
> python.exe running the same code:
>
>
>                 if __name__ != '__main__':
>                                 subprocess.call(
>                                                 [r'c:\python26\python.exe', r'c:\teflogon\tefgina.py', pMessage],
>                                 )
>
>
> And pywintypes gets imported fine there.
>
> My dll is built using mingw, like this:
> i586-mingw32msvc-gcc -L./lib -shared -Wl,--kill-at pygina.o -o
> pygina.dll -lpython26
>
> I thought it had something to do with msvcr90.dll, so I've tried the
> following:
>
> 1. Adding -lmsvcr90 at the end of the linking command
> 2. Including a manifest in the dll:
>
> $ cat pygina.dll.manifest
> <assembly xmlns="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:asm.v1"  manifestVersion="1.0">
>     <trustInfo xmlns="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:asm.v3">
>         <security>
>             <requestedPrivileges>
>                 <requestedExecutionLevel level="asInvoker"  uiAccess="false"></requestedExecutionLevel>
>             </requestedPrivileges>
>         </security>
>     </trustInfo>
>     <dependency>
>         <dependentAssembly>
>             <assemblyIdentity type="win32"  name="Microsoft.VC90.CRT"  version="9.0.21022.8"  processorArchitecture="x86"  publicKeyToken="1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b"></assemblyIdentity>
>         </dependentAssembly>
>     </dependency>
>
> $ grep manifest pygina.rc.in
> 2 RT_MANIFEST pygina.dll.manifest
>
> $
>
>
> But it did not change a thing.
>
> So the question is - why can python.exe load pywin32 modules and my dll
> cannot?
>
> I have been stuck with this for a couple of days now and any pointers
> would be great :).
>
>
> Thanks,
> Filip Zyzniewski
> Tefnet
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> python-win32 mailing list
> python-win32 at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32


From amelie.lesser at googlemail.com  Tue Feb  1 11:31:25 2011
From: amelie.lesser at googlemail.com (Amelie Lesser)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:31:25 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] error importing win32com for Dispatch
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=RpTdZ5tA+AnaXigLJ=4UdC-gpP2kqYEjq9tZR@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=HK3OArQw2dOvUcDT4D0tmjx3YNRpnDsGXW7cR@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=RpTdZ5tA+AnaXigLJ=4UdC-gpP2kqYEjq9tZR@mail.gmail.com>
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 2011/1/31 Vernon Cole <vernondcole at gmail.com>

> Don't use the ZIP file. It is a pain to install, and (as you see) sometimes
> does not install correctly. Unfortunately, sourceforge sets it as the
> default thing to do.  What you want to do is push  the "view all files"
> button <http://sourceforge.net/projects/pywin32/files/pywin32/> and select
> the latest Windows installer for the version of Python you are running.
> (also note that even if you are running a 64 bit version of Windows, you
> should probably select a 32 bit version of Python.)
>

Ok, so I downloaded the pywin32-214.win32-py2.7.exe file (to go with the py
verion 2.7.1).

2011/1/31 Tim Roberts timr at probo.com
> That's not the right location.  Did you get and run the pywin32
> installer?  What command did you use to call "setup.py"?  In a properly
> installed system, win32com will live in
> \Python27\lib\site-packages\win32com.

I downloaded the exe file into C:\Python27 and am running it in the cmd or
by double-clicking. When I hit 'execute' it asks me whcih user to execute as
(I'm not the administrator, btu I read in the documentation that in this
build I should be able to install though I'm not admin) and whether I want
to protect the computer from unauthorised activities. If I check 'protect'
it'll say 'Runtime Error: Invalid directory name. Could not create temporary
file.' and 'Runtime error: Setup program invalid or damaged'. Elsif I
uncheck protect it will take me back in a loop over 'execute' to 'check
protect'.
I did ask our amin for help, but he crammed with work and has never used
python, so sadly gave up on it.


2011/1/31 Tim Roberts timr at probo.com
> Are you running a 32-bit system or a 64-bit system?  Did you install
> 32-bit Python or 64-bit Python?

I'm running a Windows XP pro 2002. I think it's 32bits (running 'winver' the
product name doesn't list '64 bit'). I'm relatively sure that the python is
32-bit, too (our system admin installed it), but I'm not sure how to confirm
that. It's Python 2.7.1





2011/1/31 Vernon Cole <vernondcole at gmail.com>

> Don't use the ZIP file. It is a pain to install, and (as you see) sometimes
> does not install correctly. Unfortunately, sourceforge sets it as the
> default thing to do.  What you want to do is push  the "view all files"
> button <http://sourceforge.net/projects/pywin32/files/pywin32/> and select
> the latest Windows installer for the version of Python you are running.
> (also note that even if you are running a 64 bit version of Windows, you
> should probably select a 32 bit version of Python.)
> --
> Vernon
>
>
>   On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Amelie Lesser <
> amelie.lesser at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>>   Hello Group,
>>
>> I am struggling very hard with using the win32com.client to use Dispatch.
>> I've been looking around quite a lot, but couldn't find any help that solved
>> my problem. I only started working with python 2 months ago, so I am still
>> quite the newbie.
>>
>> I'm working on a python script that is supposed to read a database into a
>> list. It then should take certain information from each data entry, plug
>> them into an excel file, let excel do a rather complex calculation using
>> macros, and append the results from certain cells back to the list.
>> I am working on Windows using the python IDLE shell and also tried it in
>> gedit running the file on the cmd line.
>>
>> I downloaded the pywin32 extension from
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/pywin32/ and ran the setup.py file.
>> The program starts with:
>>
>> *from win32com.client import Dispatch
>> *
>> For which I receive the following Error message:
>>
>> *Traceback (most recent call last):
>>   File "Z:\testpython\dbf_converter\testing.py", line 3, in <module>
>>     from win32com.client import Dispatch
>> ImportError: No module named win32com.client*
>>
>>
>>    - I read through the Installation Problems on
>>    http://starship.python.net/~skippy/win32/InstallationProblems.html. I
>>    found that I do have two versions of the python27.dll file, and deleted the
>>    one in the C:\Python27 directory, but everytime I start IDLE it re-creates
>>    that file.
>>    - I also tried setting the path using (separately) ...but no
>>    difference.
>>       - *sys.path.append('C:\\WINDOWS\\system32\\')*
>>       - *sys.path.append('C:\\Python27\\pywin32-214\\pywin32-214\\com')*
>>    - I tried deleting and reinstalling the extension
>>
>>
>> I am completely lost and would really appreciate any help.
>>
>> Amelie
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> python-win32 mailing list
>> python-win32 at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
>>
>>
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From developers at tefnet.pl  Tue Feb  1 15:10:51 2011
From: developers at tefnet.pl (Tefnet Developers)
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 15:10:51 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Problem with msvcr90.dll
In-Reply-To: <4D474953.3010409@gmail.com>
References: <1296474888.4858.21.camel@cacko>  <4D474953.3010409@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1296569451.7195.58.camel@cacko>

Dnia 2011-02-01, wto o godzinie 10:44 +1100, Mark Hammond pisze:
> This stuff is painful and poorly documented.  Is it possible the code 
> which triggers the failing import is on a different thread than the one 
> which loaded Python? 

I have added a little thread id reporting function:

static void logThread(const char *where) {
        FILE *log = fopen(LOGFILE, "a");
        fprintf(log, "pygina thread id @ %s: %d\n", where,
GetCurrentThreadId());
        fclose(log);
}

I've put it before each method call and before Py_Initialize, and it all
happens in one thread:

pygina thread id @ WlxNegotiate: 612
pygina thread id @ Py_Initialize: 612
pygina thread id @ WlxInitialize: 612
pygina thread id @ WlxDisplayStatusMessage: 612
pygina thread id @ WlxRemoveStatusMessage: 612
pygina thread id @ WlxDisplaySASNotice: 612
pygina thread id @ WlxRemoveStatusMessage: 612
pygina thread id @ WlxLoggedOutSAS: 612

Should I need to do any linking against msvcr90 if python26.dll is
already linked against it and I am linked to python26.dll?

Thanks,
Filip Zyzniewski
Tefnet


From developers at tefnet.pl  Tue Feb  1 17:11:57 2011
From: developers at tefnet.pl (Tefnet Developers)
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 17:11:57 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Problem with msvcr90.dll
In-Reply-To: <4D474953.3010409@gmail.com>
References: <1296474888.4858.21.camel@cacko>  <4D474953.3010409@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1296576717.10017.75.camel@cacko>

Dnia 2011-02-01, wto o godzinie 10:44 +1100, Mark Hammond pisze:
> This stuff is painful and poorly documented.  Is it possible the code 
> which triggers the failing import is on a different thread than the one 
> which loaded Python?  If so, I suspect the magic done by Python in 
> dl_nt.c may not be kicking in, which is supposed to ensure all python 
> modules are loaded using the "activation context" defined by pythonxx.dll.

The smallest piece of program that shows the problem:

$ cat pytest.c
#include <Python.h>


int main(void) {
        Py_Initialize();
        PyRun_SimpleString(
                "import traceback \n"
                "try:\n"
                "       import pywintypes\n"
                "except:\n"
                "       traceback.print_exc()\n"
        );
}

$ make pytest.exe
i586-mingw32msvc-gcc -I./include -I./include/python -Wall -pedantic
-std=c99    -c -o pytest.o pytest.c

i586-mingw32msvc-gcc -L./lib -o pytest.exe pytest.o -lmingw32 -lpython26
rm pytest.o

$

The output looks like this:

C:\>pytest
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<string>", line 3, in <module>
  File "C:\Python26\lib\site-packages\win32\lib\pywintypes.py", line
124, in <module>
    __import_pywin32_system_module__("pywintypes", globals())
  File "C:\Python26\lib\site-packages\win32\lib\pywintypes.py", line 64,
in __import_pywin32_system_module__
    import _win32sysloader
ImportError: DLL load failed: The specified module could not be found

C:\>


It loads fine if I add -lmsvcr90 to the linking flags, but I think it
should not be necessary, right?

bye,
Filip Zyzniewski
Tefnet


From Tom.Hawkins at innospecinc.com  Tue Feb  1 18:22:16 2011
From: Tom.Hawkins at innospecinc.com (Tom Hawkins)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 17:22:16 -0000
Subject: [python-win32] How to specify parameters in a query using odbc
Message-ID: <80EF6E679A466046BA07D071932847B3232327@UKEPX101.innospec.itnet.octel>

Hi,

 

I'm trying to get data out of a MS SQL Server 2005 database from a
Python 2.5 script, using the odbc module - I can't easily get anything
more up-to-date installed on this system.

 

If I specify the query literally, like this:

 

import dbi, odbc

 

myQuery = """SELECT EnteredValue FROM SampleTests INNER JOIN
SampleResults

ON (SampleTests.SampleCode = SampleResults.SampleCode AND 

SampleTests.AuditFlag = SampleResults.AuditFlag AND

SampleTests.TestPosition = SampleResults.TestPosition)

WHERE (SampleTests.SampleCode='foo' AND SampleTests.AuditFlag=0 AND
SampleTests.TestCode='bar' AND

SampleTests.TestStatus<900 AND SampleResults.ComponentName='IntMethod')

"""

 

conn=odbc.odbc("DSN=mydatabase;UID=myusername;PWD=mypassword")

cursor=conn.cursor()

cursor.execute(myQuery)

 

print cursor.fetchall()

 

conn.close()

 

 

...it works OK, but if I try to parameterise the query:

 

myQuery = """SELECT EnteredValue FROM SampleTests INNER JOIN
SampleResults

ON (SampleTests.SampleCode = SampleResults.SampleCode AND 

SampleTests.AuditFlag = SampleResults.AuditFlag AND

SampleTests.TestPosition = SampleResults.TestPosition)

WHERE (SampleTests.SampleCode=%s AND SampleTests.AuditFlag=0 AND
SampleTests.TestCode=%s AND

SampleTests.TestStatus<900 AND SampleResults.ComponentName='IntMethod')

"""

...

cursor.execute(myQuery, ('foo', 'bar'))

 

 

...I get:

 

dbi.program-error: [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL
Server]Incorrect syntax near 's'. in EXEC

 

 

Any idea what I'm doing wrong please? Apologies if I've missed something
stupid. I get the same error if I only specify one of the parameters
with %s and leave the other one literal, by the way.

 

Thanks,

Tom

 

   Tom Hawkins

Principal Scientist

Innospec Inc

Tel: +44 (0)151 356 6197

Fax: +44 (0)151 356 6112

 

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From timr at probo.com  Tue Feb  1 19:14:24 2011
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 10:14:24 -0800
Subject: [python-win32] How to specify parameters in a query using odbc
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Message-ID: <4D484D80.5070101@probo.com>

Tom Hawkins wrote:
>
>  
>
> I?m trying to get data out of a MS SQL Server 2005 database from a
> Python 2.5 script, using the odbc module - I can?t easily get anything
> more up-to-date installed on this system.
>
> ...
>
> ...it works OK, but if I try to parameterise the query:Any idea what
> I?m doing wrong please? Apologies if I?ve missed something stupid. I
> get the same error if I only specify one of the parameters with %s and
> leave the other one literal, by the way.

There are, for reasons that have never been clear to me, three different
parameter substitution styles allowed by the Python dbapi
specification.  The Win32 odbc module uses ? characters instead of %s.

A simple search-and-replace should solve your problem.

-- 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.


From paul_koning at dell.com  Tue Feb  1 18:30:31 2011
From: paul_koning at dell.com (Paul Koning)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 12:30:31 -0500
Subject: [python-win32] How to specify parameters in a query using odbc
In-Reply-To: <80EF6E679A466046BA07D071932847B3232327@UKEPX101.innospec.itnet.octel>
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My impression (but I admit the documentation could be better) is that parameters on the execute call only apply to data values of INSERT statements.  For any other variable bits, format them into the command string (with the % operator and appropriate %s/%d/%x etc. elements in the string).

So I'd get:

myVarQuery = """SELECT EnteredValue FROM SampleTests INNER JOIN SampleResults
ON (SampleTests.SampleCode = SampleResults.SampleCode AND
SampleTests.AuditFlag = SampleResults.AuditFlag AND
SampleTests.TestPosition = SampleResults.TestPosition)
WHERE (SampleTests.SampleCode=%s AND SampleTests.AuditFlag=0 AND SampleTests.TestCode=%s AND
SampleTests.TestStatus<900 AND SampleResults.ComponentName=?IntMethod?)
??? 
...
myQuery = myVarQuery % ('foo', 'bar')
cursor.execute(myQuery)
 
The syntax gets slightly messier if you want to have a variable INSERT statement that also takes data parameters.  For example

myVarInsert = "INSERT INTO myTable (%s) VALUES (%%s)"
...
myInsert = myVarInsert % 'testvar'
cursor.execute (myInsert, (value1, value2, value3))

Note the %%s in the VALUES clause, that becomes a %s in myInsert, and then gets the data values stuck into it by the execute.

	paul

On Feb 1, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Tom Hawkins wrote:

> Hi,
>  
> I?m trying to get data out of a MS SQL Server 2005 database from a Python 2.5 script, using the odbc module - I can?t easily get anything more up-to-date installed on this system.
>  
> If I specify the query literally, like this:
>  
> import dbi, odbc
>  
> myQuery = """SELECT EnteredValue FROM SampleTests INNER JOIN SampleResults
> ON (SampleTests.SampleCode = SampleResults.SampleCode AND
> SampleTests.AuditFlag = SampleResults.AuditFlag AND
> SampleTests.TestPosition = SampleResults.TestPosition)
> WHERE (SampleTests.SampleCode=?foo? AND SampleTests.AuditFlag=0 AND SampleTests.TestCode='bar' AND
> SampleTests.TestStatus<900 AND SampleResults.ComponentName='IntMethod')
> """
>  
> conn=odbc.odbc("DSN=mydatabase;UID=myusername;PWD=mypassword")
> cursor=conn.cursor()
> cursor.execute(myQuery)
>  
> print cursor.fetchall()
>  
> conn.close()
>  
>  
> ...it works OK, but if I try to parameterise the query:
>  
> myQuery = """SELECT EnteredValue FROM SampleTests INNER JOIN SampleResults
> ON (SampleTests.SampleCode = SampleResults.SampleCode AND
> SampleTests.AuditFlag = SampleResults.AuditFlag AND
> SampleTests.TestPosition = SampleResults.TestPosition)
> WHERE (SampleTests.SampleCode=%s AND SampleTests.AuditFlag=0 AND SampleTests.TestCode=%s AND
> SampleTests.TestStatus<900 AND SampleResults.ComponentName=?IntMethod?)
> ???
> ...
> cursor.execute(myQuery, (?foo?, ?bar?))
>  
>  
> ...I get:
>  
> dbi.program-error: [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]Incorrect syntax near 's'. in EXEC
>  
>  
> Any idea what I?m doing wrong please? Apologies if I?ve missed something stupid. I get the same error if I only specify one of the parameters with %s and leave the other one literal, by the way.
>  
> Thanks,
> Tom
>  
> <image001.jpg>  Tom Hawkins
> Principal Scientist
> Innospec Inc
> Tel: +44 (0)151 356 6197
> Fax: +44 (0)151 356 6112
>  
> _______________________________________________
> python-win32 mailing list
> python-win32 at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32

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From vernondcole at gmail.com  Tue Feb  1 20:26:02 2011
From: vernondcole at gmail.com (Vernon Cole)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 12:26:02 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] How to specify parameters in a query using odbc
In-Reply-To: <4D484D80.5070101@probo.com>
References: <80EF6E679A466046BA07D071932847B3232327@UKEPX101.innospec.itnet.octel>
	<4D484D80.5070101@probo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTims479WMmu0Hos1X+Fbrg=73MBQtf7u7ZNTXn-B@mail.gmail.com>

Tim's answer is correct.  A db api connection object supplies a .paramstyle
method which specifies which of _five_ different parameter substitution
methods is used by the underlying query engine.  odbc uses 'qmark', meaning
that you put ? where you want parameters to appear.

You may have something "more up-to-date" available to you that you are not
aware of.  Versions of pywin32 since 2.1.1 have also included adodbapi,
which is fully db api 2.0 compliant.   ADO runs in odbc mode by default, so
you should be able to use all of the same drivers, connection strings, etc.
You could also use ADO providers if you wish, by using other connection
strings. www.connectionstrings.com is a good source.  Adodbapi also uses
'qmark' paramstyle.

 If you were to get one of the latest versions of adodbapi (which will be in
the NEXT release of pywin32) it would also allow you to _change_ the
paramstyle, so that you could specify that you want to use 'format'
paramstyle, which is what you were trying to use.  (This is needed for
django, for example.) Lacking that you are stuck with 'qmark' so use:

myQuery = """SELECT EnteredValue FROM SampleTests INNER JOIN SampleResults

ON (SampleTests.SampleCode = SampleResults.SampleCode AND

SampleTests.AuditFlag = SampleResults.AuditFlag AND

SampleTests.TestPosition = SampleResults.TestPosition)

WHERE (SampleTests.SampleCode=? AND SampleTests.AuditFlag=0 AND
SampleTests.TestCode=? AND

SampleTests.TestStatus<900 AND SampleResults.ComponentName=?IntMethod?)

???

Paul's impression that parameter substitution only works in INSERT
statements is incorrect.  (The documentation IS awfully lightweight.) You
can also use them in SELECT as in your example.
--
Vernon Cole

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Tim Roberts <timr at probo.com> wrote:

> Tom Hawkins wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > I?m trying to get data out of a MS SQL Server 2005 database from a
> > Python 2.5 script, using the odbc module - I can?t easily get anything
> > more up-to-date installed on this system.
> >
> > ...
> >
> > ...it works OK, but if I try to parameterise the query:Any idea what
> > I?m doing wrong please? Apologies if I?ve missed something stupid. I
> > get the same error if I only specify one of the parameters with %s and
> > leave the other one literal, by the way.
>
> There are, for reasons that have never been clear to me, three different
> parameter substitution styles allowed by the Python dbapi
> specification.  The Win32 odbc module uses ? characters instead of %s.
>
> A simple search-and-replace should solve your problem.
>
> --
> Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
> Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.
>
> _______________________________________________
> python-win32 mailing list
> python-win32 at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
>
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From Andrew.MacIntyre at acma.gov.au  Tue Feb  1 23:28:40 2011
From: Andrew.MacIntyre at acma.gov.au (Andrew MacIntyre)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 09:28:40 +1100
Subject: [python-win32] How to specify parameters in a query using odbc
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The odbc module in Pythonwin uses qmark parameter style I believe, so
use ? instead of %s for parameter substitution.

 

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Tom Hawkins wrote



I'm trying to get data out of a MS SQL Server 2005 database from a
Python 2.5 script, using the odbc module - I can't easily get anything
more up-to-date installed on this system.

 

{...}

 

...it works OK, but if I try to parameterise the query:

 

myQuery = """SELECT EnteredValue FROM SampleTests INNER JOIN
SampleResults

ON (SampleTests.SampleCode = SampleResults.SampleCode AND 

SampleTests.AuditFlag = SampleResults.AuditFlag AND

SampleTests.TestPosition = SampleResults.TestPosition)

WHERE (SampleTests.SampleCode=%s AND SampleTests.AuditFlag=0 AND
SampleTests.TestCode=%s AND

SampleTests.TestStatus<900 AND SampleResults.ComponentName='IntMethod')

"""

...

cursor.execute(myQuery, ('foo', 'bar'))

 

 

...I get:

 

dbi.program-error: [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL
Server]Incorrect syntax near 's'. in EXEC

 

 

Any idea what I'm doing wrong please? Apologies if I've missed something
stupid. I get the same error if I only specify one of the parameters
with %s and leave the other one literal, by the way.


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From reckoner at gmail.com  Tue Feb  1 23:55:06 2011
From: reckoner at gmail.com (Reckoner)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 14:55:06 -0800
Subject: [python-win32] Find containing window given a control handle
Message-ID: <AANLkTimbFsgaGZJxjxbVU+VxEDgkoGE37zv_Gf78cw78@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Given the handle of a text field or button embedded in some window,
how can I find the parent window that contains the handle?

Right now, I'm exhaustively going through every visible window and
matching every child handle. Perhaps there is a better way?

Thanks!

From greg.ewing at canterbury.ac.nz  Wed Feb  2 00:22:25 2011
From: greg.ewing at canterbury.ac.nz (Greg Ewing)
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 12:22:25 +1300
Subject: [python-win32] Find containing window given a control handle
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimbFsgaGZJxjxbVU+VxEDgkoGE37zv_Gf78cw78@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimbFsgaGZJxjxbVU+VxEDgkoGE37zv_Gf78cw78@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4D4895B1.40900@canterbury.ac.nz>

Reckoner wrote:

> Given the handle of a text field or button embedded in some window,
> how can I find the parent window that contains the handle?

Use the win32gui.GetParent() function?

-- 
Greg

From lc4468 at gmail.com  Wed Feb  2 04:33:15 2011
From: lc4468 at gmail.com (Lance Case)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 22:33:15 -0500
Subject: [python-win32] PyWin32 has stopped working/mfc90.dll error
Message-ID: <AANLkTimxHKJLskXJSVkcqN8b5ZnQUNoLf0vbKCqprSQg@mail.gmail.com>

I?ve installed the standard ?pywin32-212? app that comes with ESRI?s ArcGIS
10. Pythonwin.exe ran fine for me for a while, but I?ve somehow managed to
break it. I?m getting ?PyWin32 has stopped working?. When I check the Event
Application log, the error says ?Faulting module path: C:\Windows\WinSxS\
x86_microsoft.vc90.mfc_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_9.0.21022.8_none_b81d038aaf540e86\mfc90.dll?.

I?ve confirmed that the file is there, but it won?t allow me to replace it.
I then noticed that C:\Python26\ArcGIS10.0\Lib\site-packages\pythonwin
contains the same DLL and that there is a ?manifest? file.

Does anyone have any suggestions for fixing this error? I?ve tried
reinstalling Pywin32 a few times with the same results.
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From skippy.hammond at gmail.com  Wed Feb  2 04:57:04 2011
From: skippy.hammond at gmail.com (Mark Hammond)
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 14:57:04 +1100
Subject: [python-win32] PyWin32 has stopped working/mfc90.dll error
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimxHKJLskXJSVkcqN8b5ZnQUNoLf0vbKCqprSQg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimxHKJLskXJSVkcqN8b5ZnQUNoLf0vbKCqprSQg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4D48D610.8040303@gmail.com>

The best I can think of is that somehow the toolbar states or other 
preferences are causing the problem - try deleting the registry key 
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Python 2.6\Python for Win32 and see if that 
helps.

Mark

On 2/02/2011 2:33 PM, Lance Case wrote:
> I?ve installed the standard ?pywin32-212? app that comes with ESRI?s
> ArcGIS 10. Pythonwin.exe ran fine for me for a while, but I?ve somehow
> managed to break it. I?m getting ?PyWin32 has stopped working?. When I
> check the Event Application log, the error says ?Faulting module path:
> C:\Windows\WinSxS\
> x86_microsoft.vc90.mfc_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_9.0.21022.8_none_b81d038aaf540e86\mfc90.dll?.
>
> I?ve confirmed that the file is there, but it won?t allow me to replace
> it. I then noticed that
> C:\Python26\ArcGIS10.0\Lib\site-packages\pythonwin contains the same DLL
> and that there is a ?manifest? file.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions for fixing this error? I?ve tried
> reinstalling Pywin32 a few times with the same results.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> python-win32 mailing list
> python-win32 at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32


From matteo.boscolo at boscolini.eu  Wed Feb  2 09:26:56 2011
From: matteo.boscolo at boscolini.eu (Matteo Boscolo)
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 09:26:56 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] How to specify parameters in a query using odbc
In-Reply-To: <80EF6E679A466046BA07D071932847B3232327@UKEPX101.innospec.itnet.octel>
References: <80EF6E679A466046BA07D071932847B3232327@UKEPX101.innospec.itnet.octel>
Message-ID: <4D491550.5070402@boscolini.eu>

try:
myQuery ="""your sql code """%(('foo', 'bar'))
and then
cursor.execute(myQuery)

regards,
Matteo

Il 01/02/2011 18:22, Tom Hawkins ha scritto:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to get data out of a MS SQL Server 2005 database from a 
> Python 2.5 script, using the odbc module - I can't easily get anything 
> more up-to-date installed on this system.
>
> If I specify the query literally, like this:
>
> import dbi, odbc
>
> myQuery = """SELECT EnteredValue FROM SampleTests INNER JOIN SampleResults
>
> ON (SampleTests.SampleCode = SampleResults.SampleCode AND
>
> SampleTests.AuditFlag = SampleResults.AuditFlag AND
>
> SampleTests.TestPosition = SampleResults.TestPosition)
>
> WHERE (SampleTests.SampleCode='foo' AND SampleTests.AuditFlag=0 AND 
> SampleTests.TestCode='bar' AND
>
> SampleTests.TestStatus<900 AND SampleResults.ComponentName='IntMethod')
>
> """
>
> conn=odbc.odbc("DSN=mydatabase;UID=myusername;PWD=mypassword")
>
> cursor=conn.cursor()
>
> cursor.execute(myQuery)
>
> print cursor.fetchall()
>
> conn.close()
>
> ...it works OK, but if I try to parameterise the query:
>
> myQuery = """SELECT EnteredValue FROM SampleTests INNER JOIN SampleResults
>
> ON (SampleTests.SampleCode = SampleResults.SampleCode AND
>
> SampleTests.AuditFlag = SampleResults.AuditFlag AND
>
> SampleTests.TestPosition = SampleResults.TestPosition)
>
> WHERE (SampleTests.SampleCode=%s AND SampleTests.AuditFlag=0 AND 
> SampleTests.TestCode=%s AND
>
> SampleTests.TestStatus<900 AND SampleResults.ComponentName='IntMethod')
>
> """
>
> ...
>
> cursor.execute(myQuery, ('foo', 'bar'))
>
> ...I get:
>
> dbi.program-error: [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL 
> Server]Incorrect syntax near 's'. in EXEC
>
> Any idea what I'm doing wrong please? Apologies if I've missed 
> something stupid. I get the same error if I only specify one of the 
> parameters with %s and leave the other one literal, by the way.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom
>
> *Tom Hawkins*
>
> Principal Scientist
>
> Innospec Inc
>
> Tel: +44 (0)151 356 6197
>
> Fax: +44 (0)151 356 6112
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> python-win32 at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
>
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From Tom.Hawkins at innospecinc.com  Wed Feb  2 11:06:30 2011
From: Tom.Hawkins at innospecinc.com (Tom Hawkins)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 10:06:30 -0000
Subject: [python-win32] How to specify parameters in a query using odbc
Message-ID: <80EF6E679A466046BA07D071932847B323232A@UKEPX101.innospec.itnet.octel>

Thanks for all the replies - it's now working fine with ? (after some
delay caused by testing with a single parameter query but forgetting
that the parameter has to be supplied as a single-member list)...

 

Tom

 

   Tom Hawkins

Principal Scientist

Innospec Inc

Tel: +44 (0)151 356 6197

Fax: +44 (0)151 356 6112

 

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From lc4468 at gmail.com  Wed Feb  2 13:58:04 2011
From: lc4468 at gmail.com (Lance Case)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 07:58:04 -0500
Subject: [python-win32] PyWin32 has stopped working/mfc90.dll error
In-Reply-To: <4D48D610.8040303@gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimxHKJLskXJSVkcqN8b5ZnQUNoLf0vbKCqprSQg@mail.gmail.com>
	<4D48D610.8040303@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=1ayCH3R=JGoG_45xGwOs1K3YLaWmMupUn4o4W@mail.gmail.com>

Wow!  Glad I joined this list.  That fixed the problem.  Thanks!

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Mark Hammond <skippy.hammond at gmail.com>wrote:

> The best I can think of is that somehow the toolbar states or other
> preferences are causing the problem - try deleting the registry key
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Python 2.6\Python for Win32 and see if that
> helps.
>
> Mark
>
>
> On 2/02/2011 2:33 PM, Lance Case wrote:
>
>>  I?ve installed the standard ?pywin32-212? app that comes with ESRI?s
>> ArcGIS 10. Pythonwin.exe ran fine for me for a while, but I?ve somehow
>> managed to break it. I?m getting ?PyWin32 has stopped working?. When I
>> check the Event Application log, the error says ?Faulting module path:
>> C:\Windows\WinSxS\
>>
>> x86_microsoft.vc90.mfc_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_9.0.21022.8_none_b81d038aaf540e86\mfc90.dll?.
>>
>> I?ve confirmed that the file is there, but it won?t allow me to replace
>> it. I then noticed that
>> C:\Python26\ArcGIS10.0\Lib\site-packages\pythonwin contains the same DLL
>> and that there is a ?manifest? file.
>>
>> Does anyone have any suggestions for fixing this error? I?ve tried
>> reinstalling Pywin32 a few times with the same results.
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> python-win32 mailing list
>> python-win32 at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
>>
>
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From mdriscoll at co.marshall.ia.us  Wed Feb  2 17:42:09 2011
From: mdriscoll at co.marshall.ia.us (Mike Driscoll)
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 10:42:09 -0600
Subject: [python-win32] How to specify parameters in a query using odbc
In-Reply-To: <80EF6E679A466046BA07D071932847B323232A@UKEPX101.innospec.itnet.octel>
References: <80EF6E679A466046BA07D071932847B323232A@UKEPX101.innospec.itnet.octel>
Message-ID: <4D498961.3020404@co.marshall.ia.us>

On 1:59 PM, Tom Hawkins wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the replies - it's now working fine with ? (after some 
> delay caused by testing with a single parameter query but forgetting 
> that the parameter has to be supplied as a single-member list)...
>
> Tom
>
> *Tom Hawkins*
>
> Principal Scientist
>
> Innospec Inc
>
> Tel: +44 (0)151 356 6197
>
> Fax: +44 (0)151 356 6112
>

Personally, I use SqlAlchemy for almost all my database work. It takes a 
little longer to learn, but I find it easier to use in the long run.

-- 
Mike Driscoll
Applications Specialist

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From planders at gmail.com  Wed Feb  2 18:00:33 2011
From: planders at gmail.com (Preston Landers)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 11:00:33 -0600
Subject: [python-win32] How to specify parameters in a query using odbc
In-Reply-To: <4D498961.3020404@co.marshall.ia.us>
References: <80EF6E679A466046BA07D071932847B323232A@UKEPX101.innospec.itnet.octel>
	<4D498961.3020404@co.marshall.ia.us>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=1-0eP9j4ME6W8Bauo0ESthqVNKv8cv4soPn4x@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Mike Driscoll
<mdriscoll at co.marshall.ia.us>wrote:

>
> Personally, I use SqlAlchemy for almost all my database work. It takes a
> little longer to learn, but I find it easier to use in the long run.
>
>
Yeah I agree with this.  And if you feel the need to work with ODBC
directly, consider the PyODBC project which is different than the one
included in PyWin32.

http://code.google.com/p/pyodbc/

-Preston
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From timr at probo.com  Wed Feb  2 19:03:35 2011
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 10:03:35 -0800
Subject: [python-win32] How to specify parameters in a query using odbc
In-Reply-To: <4D491550.5070402@boscolini.eu>
References: <80EF6E679A466046BA07D071932847B3232327@UKEPX101.innospec.itnet.octel>
	<4D491550.5070402@boscolini.eu>
Message-ID: <4D499C77.9080103@probo.com>

Matteo Boscolo wrote:
> try:
> myQuery ="""your sql code """%((?foo?, ?bar?))
> and then
> cursor.execute(myQuery)

No, no, no!  Don't EVER do that.  The whole reason these parameter
substitution schemes exist is because it prevents code like this, which
is open to SQL injection attacks.

The only time you should be using Python's % substitution with SQL is
when you need to supply table or field names, and even then you need to
be careful if the names came from user input.  Any time you are
supplying a data value, you should ALWAYS use the API's substitution scheme.

-- 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.


From timr at probo.com  Wed Feb  2 20:14:47 2011
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 11:14:47 -0800
Subject: [python-win32] PyWin32 has stopped working/mfc90.dll error
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimxHKJLskXJSVkcqN8b5ZnQUNoLf0vbKCqprSQg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimxHKJLskXJSVkcqN8b5ZnQUNoLf0vbKCqprSQg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4D49AD27.4020503@probo.com>

Lance Case wrote:
> I?ve installed the standard ?pywin32-212? app that comes with ESRI?s
> ArcGIS 10. Pythonwin.exe ran fine for me for a while, but I?ve somehow
> managed to break it. I?m getting ?PyWin32 has stopped working?. When I
> check the Event Application log, the error says ?Faulting module path:
> C:\Windows\WinSxS\
> x86_microsoft.vc90.mfc_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_9.0.21022.8_none_b81d038aaf540e86\mfc90.dll?.
>
> I?ve confirmed that the file is there, but it won?t allow me to
> replace it. I then noticed that
> C:\Python26\ArcGIS10.0\Lib\site-packages\pythonwin contains the same
> DLL and that there is a ?manifest? file.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions for fixing this error? I?ve tried
> reinstalling Pywin32 a few times with the same results.

Replacing the file isn't going to help.  What that error means is that
your application crashed inside somewhere inside MFC, which is
Microsoft's GUI framework.  What are you doing when it crashes?

-- 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.


From dardoschuster at hotmail.com  Thu Feb  3 12:24:24 2011
From: dardoschuster at hotmail.com (Dardo Schuster Glez)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 11:24:24 +0000
Subject: [python-win32] FW: python-win32 image fields problem
In-Reply-To: <SNT110-W577489A7E8A292CCA586E2AEE70@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT110-W577489A7E8A292CCA586E2AEE70@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <SNT110-W38F5878306365EE2C6F0CAEE70@phx.gbl>





Dear Sir
 
How can y show a jpg that is in a SQL Server image field in a Qlabel object ??? and how to change and save it in the image field ???
 
Thanks
Dardo Schuster
Tenerife - Canary Islands - Spain
 
PD: How can i send my questions to the python-win32 mailing list ???
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From vernondcole at gmail.com  Thu Feb  3 14:51:48 2011
From: vernondcole at gmail.com (Vernon Cole)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 06:51:48 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] FW: python-win32 image fields problem
In-Reply-To: <SNT110-W38F5878306365EE2C6F0CAEE70@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT110-W577489A7E8A292CCA586E2AEE70@phx.gbl>
	<SNT110-W38F5878306365EE2C6F0CAEE70@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin7Nmk6+6AF1DBH8cnWupP1Wr7MOU3G0Lij4n8U@mail.gmail.com>

Your question came to the correct place.

     I think you may be fighting a known SQL bug. What is the SQL data type
of the column which contains your jpg image?

How large is the image?

Can you send me a SQL backup file containing a test image? (Only two or
three rows email directly to me, not to the list.)
Vernon Cole
(sent from my 'droid phone)

On Feb 3, 2011 4:24 AM, "Dardo Schuster Glez" <dardoschuster at hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Dear Sir
>
> How can y show a jpg that is in a SQL Server image field in a Qlabel
object ??? and how to change and save it in the image field ???
>
> Thanks
> Dardo Schuster
> Tenerife - Canary Islands - Spain
>
> PD: How can i send my questions to the python-win32 mailing list ???
> Thanks
>
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From eric.frost at mp2kmag.com  Thu Feb  3 19:14:01 2011
From: eric.frost at mp2kmag.com (Eric Frost)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 12:14:01 -0600
Subject: [python-win32] New article on Automating MapPoint via COM to render
 worldwide cities from Geonames on base map
Message-ID: <AANLkTikYRVFKEe+BgDYg3pjysKtL1+opN7kgcbNGBHn-@mail.gmail.com>

Add City Coverage to MapPoint using the GeoNames Database
by Richard Marsden
http://www.mapforums.com/add-city-coverage-mappoint-using-geonames-database-15244.html

--
m: 312-399-1586
http://www.MapForums.com
http://www.MP2Kmag.com

From tony at tcapp.com  Thu Feb  3 21:52:18 2011
From: tony at tcapp.com (Tony Cappellini)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 12:52:18 -0800
Subject: [python-win32] Using os.startfile() for automation
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=JsGAMCMwJZ5=Dd3B8LFQ2rGgmfhRFF-4AjEXf@mail.gmail.com>

On Windows XP, I'm able to launch the application associated with file1.xxx.

os.startfile("file1.xxx")

I want to start more instances of the application, so that I can process
several files at the same time.

calling os.startfile("file2.xxx") causes the instance of the application to
also open file2.xxx.

The problem with this is- I have to wait until file1 has finished
processing, before I can start file2.

If, after opening the first instance for file1, I can use the Start Menu,
Program Files, open another instance of the application, I can then start
processing file2 at the same time as file1, but using a separate instance.

Is there any other way to invoke startfile() or other function- to force a
new instance of the application to open?

How would I close the application from Python, that was started with
os.startfile()?


Once the application is open, I just want to use File Save As Text, to get
the data into a text file.
Python's app-automation capabilities are kinda weak and not well documented,
so I may resort to AutoIt3.

Thanks
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From timr at probo.com  Thu Feb  3 22:18:40 2011
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 13:18:40 -0800
Subject: [python-win32] Using os.startfile() for automation
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=JsGAMCMwJZ5=Dd3B8LFQ2rGgmfhRFF-4AjEXf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=JsGAMCMwJZ5=Dd3B8LFQ2rGgmfhRFF-4AjEXf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4D4B1BB0.8070407@probo.com>

Tony Cappellini wrote:
>
> On Windows XP, I'm able to launch the application associated with
> file1.xxx.
>
> os.startfile("file1.xxx")
>
> I want to start more instances of the application, so that I can
> process several files at the same time.
>
> calling os.startfile("file2.xxx") causes the instance of the
> application to also open file2.xxx.
>
> The problem with this is- I have to wait until file1 has finished
> processing, before I can start file2.

Ah, so you're saying you CAN execute the second os.startfile, but the
application opens them both in the same instance?  It's really up to the
application to decide how to handle this.  os.startfile is exactly like
double-clicking the file icons in Explorer.  Is this a public
application?  There may be a smarter way to handle this.  os.startfile
is a bit "brute force".

> If, after opening the first instance for file1, I can use the Start
> Menu, Program Files, open another instance of the application, I can
> then start
> processing file2 at the same time as file1, but using a separate instance.
>
> Is there any other way to invoke startfile() or other function- to
> force a new instance of the application to open?

Not through os.startfile, but you can go look up the application's
executable on your own, and then start the process yourself.  For
example, instead of
    mydoc.doc
you can say:
    "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office10\winword.exe" mydoc.doc

However, it's still up to the application to decide whether it will
handle that in one instance or two.

> How would I close the application from Python, that was started with
> os.startfile()?

Well, you could go searching for the window by name, since you know the
file name, and send it a WM_CLOSE.  However, it would probably be
smarter to see if the application can be automated through COM.  That
way, you're in complete control of the operation.

Alternatively, you can use CreateProcess through the API to launch the
application.  That way, you get a process handle that you can control.

os.startfile is a shortcut.  For that convenience, you give up some
flexibility.

> Once the application is open, I just want to use File Save As Text, to
> get the data into a text file.
> Python's app-automation capabilities are kinda weak and not well
> documented, so I may resort to AutoIt3.

That's a ridiculous complaint.  Languages do not have "app automation
capabilities".  If the application you're controlling has the ability to
be automated through COM, you can use pywin32's amply documented COM
facilities to do it.  If it doesn't, then you'll have to inject
keystrokes using the API, exactly like you would if you were writing
this in C.

-- 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.


From Andrew.MacIntyre at acma.gov.au  Fri Feb  4 00:42:37 2011
From: Andrew.MacIntyre at acma.gov.au (Andrew MacIntyre)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 10:42:37 +1100
Subject: [python-win32] Using os.startfile() for automation
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[apologies for top post]

 

All there is to know about os.startfile() is in Python's docs.  The only
way to achieve the effect you desire is to do what the "Start Menu..."
action does - explicitly open an instance of the application (and not
all applications will open new instances; some will always open an
existing instance if one exists).

 

You don't state what version of Python you're using.  Assuming it is at
least 2.6, you may wish to investigate the subprocess module and
possibly the multiprocessing module.  You will have to explicitly
identify the application required to open the file, as you would with
os.system().

 

If the application you wish to run supports COM (such as MS Word/Excel
etc do), you could try PythonWin or comtypes, either of which will give
much more control such as saving the file and exiting cleanly.

 

Other than COM, application automation on Windows requires Windows API
programming to send the necessary messages to application windows - this
is what AutoIt does.  I believe that people have written Python code to
do this; googling "python application automation" might give you some
ideas.

 

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From: python-win32-bounces+andrew.macintyre=acma.gov.au at python.org
[mailto:python-win32-bounces+andrew.macintyre=acma.gov.au at python.org] On
Behalf Of Tony Cappellini
Sent: Friday, 4 February 2011 7:52 AM
To: python-win32 at python.org
Subject: [python-win32] Using os.startfile() for automation

 



On Windows XP, I'm able to launch the application associated with
file1.xxx.

os.startfile("file1.xxx")

I want to start more instances of the application, so that I can process
several files at the same time.

calling os.startfile("file2.xxx") causes the instance of the application
to also open file2.xxx.

The problem with this is- I have to wait until file1 has finished
processing, before I can start file2.

If, after opening the first instance for file1, I can use the Start
Menu, Program Files, open another instance of the application, I can
then start
processing file2 at the same time as file1, but using a separate
instance.

Is there any other way to invoke startfile() or other function- to force
a new instance of the application to open?

How would I close the application from Python, that was started with
os.startfile()?


Once the application is open, I just want to use File Save As Text, to
get the data into a text file.
Python's app-automation capabilities are kinda weak and not well
documented, so I may resort to AutoIt3.

Thanks





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From tony at tcapp.com  Fri Feb  4 01:46:00 2011
From: tony at tcapp.com (Tony Cappellini)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 16:46:00 -0800
Subject: [python-win32] Using os.startfile() for automation
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 13:18:40 -0800
From: Tim Roberts <timr at probo.com>
To: Python-Win32 List <python-win32 at python.org>
Subject: Re: [python-win32] Using os.startfile() for automation
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>>Ah, so you're saying you CAN execute the second os.startfile, but the
>>application opens them both in the same instance?
Yes.

>>However, it's still up to the application to decide whether it will
>>handle that in one instance or two.

When I use launch the app from Start -> All Program -> Program Folder ->
ProgramName.exe
another instance opens. I guess I can just iterate over the list of files to
open, then launch a new instance for each file (within limits),
as opposed to using os.startfile()

>>owever, it would probably be smarter to see if the application can be
automated through COM.
I've tried using PyWin32's COM Browser but will only use COM as a last
resort. This app doesn't appear to be registered as a COM server.
I've had COM servers hang on me in the past, and since the app is written by
a 3rd party who wants $$ for support, I'll stay far away from COM.

>>That way, you're in complete control of the operation.
Only if the COM server is solid. Older versions of Excel can easily be
crashed via COM, although my app isn't Excel in this case.

>>Alternatively, you can use CreateProcess through the API to launch the
>>application.  That way, you get a process handle that you can control.

This only helps me launch the app, I still need a way to manipulate the
menus, to start the File -> Save As ... step


> Once the application is open, I just want to use File Save As Text, to
> get the data into a text file.
> Python's app-automation capabilities are kinda weak and not well
> documented, so I may resort to AutoIt3.

>>That's a ridiculous complaint.  Languages do not have "app automation
>>capabilities".

Scuze me. I should have said "The python automation packages" (pywinauto,
watsup, pywingui, etc) ...
One could argue whether AutoIt3 is a language or a framework, but its
existence is for automating other applications.
I'd much rather use python, but the api in pywinauto is maddening.

>>keystrokes using the API, exactly like you would if you were writing this
in C.
Well, I still wouldn't know how to do this in C, which is why I looked into
the python automation packages.
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From tony at tcapp.com  Fri Feb  4 01:59:15 2011
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Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 16:59:15 -0800
Subject: [python-win32] Using os.startfile() for automation
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Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 10:42:37 +1100
From: "Andrew MacIntyre" <Andrew.MacIntyre at acma.gov.au>
To: python-win32 at python.org
Subject: Re: [python-win32] Using os.startfile() for automation
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>>Other than COM, application automation on Windows requires Windows API
>>programming to send the necessary messages to application windows - this
>>is what AutoIt does.


I believe that people have written Python code to
do this; googling "python application automation" might give you some
ideas.

Autoit3 exposes some of it's API's via COM, but I'd rather avoid COM.

http://code.google.com/p/robotframework-autoitlibrary/
Python + AutoIt via COM just seems like too many layers, just to invoke the
File  Save As menu.


This looks like its the most mature Python package and is the one I'm trying
to use, but with no success at the moment. At least there have been updates
recently.
http://code.google.com/p/pywinauto/
but the API is bad and the docs are confusing.


This is next inline, and ....
http://www.tizmoi.net/watsup/intro.html

There was one other, but googling isn't finding it at the moment, however it
is the project which started the others.
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From prologic at shortcircuit.net.au  Mon Feb  7 07:09:26 2011
From: prologic at shortcircuit.net.au (James Mills)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 16:09:26 +1000
Subject: [python-win32] InstallService TypeError: exceptions must be classes
	or instances not str
Message-ID: <AANLkTikbR7QC9t1r+sHNoaHCzCLeX6f6yFiGmis-eejJ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,

I've been trying to build a simple prototype Windows Services
but am running into a problem when trying to install it.

Running:

$ test_service.exe install

Produces the following error:

ERROR: exceptions must be classes or instances, not str
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "service.pyc", line 71, in install_service
  File "win32serviceutil.pyc", line 295, in InstallService
  File "win32serviceutil.pyc", line 83, in LocatePythonServiceExe
TypeError: exceptions must be classes or instances, not str

Now. We are using the latest version of pywin32 (214)
for Python 2.6.x

We tried deleting the *.pyc files in C:\Python26\Lib\ to no avail..

The code is here:
https://bitbucket.org/prologic/circuits/src/5e17015df110/tmp/win32_service/

I'd appreciate any insight into this as my own research
into this problem has yielded nothing positive so far.

Thanks,

cheers
James

-- 
-- James Mills
--
-- "Problems are solved by method"

From d_vineet at yahoo.com  Mon Feb  7 15:31:20 2011
From: d_vineet at yahoo.com (Vineet Deodhar)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 06:31:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [python-win32] Turbogears 2.1 with mako
Message-ID: <89342.78991.qm@web32005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi All !
For web-based solutions, I have started learning TG 2.1
By and large, the documentation on TG 2.1 official site is a work-in-process.
As regards to the templates (out of MVC), it tells how to go about Genshi.
I wish to go with mako.
Gone through the docs of mako (they are good).
But still, it would be better if I can get a tutorial explaining how to use TG 2.1 with mako.
(TG 2.0 has a topic on using TG 2.0 with Genshi)
(It will save me from re-inventing the wheel, if somebody has written docs on these lines).
Can anybody please point to any such tutorial?
(I googled, but couldn't locate any convincing result.)

Thanks,
Vineet.



 
Best regards,
 
Vineet Deodhar
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From vernondcole at gmail.com  Mon Feb  7 17:00:05 2011
From: vernondcole at gmail.com (Vernon Cole)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 09:00:05 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] InstallService TypeError: exceptions must be
 classes or instances not str
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikbR7QC9t1r+sHNoaHCzCLeX6f6yFiGmis-eejJ@mail.gmail.com>
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James:
  It appears that more information is needed to help with your problem.  At
the present moment, the best I can say is "works for me."

[note:  I have a file named "python.bat" on my search path which contains
the single line:
c:\python26\python.exe %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9
so that I can keep my many versions of Python straight.]

I downloaded your code using hg and installed on Vista Home Basic using:
C:\hg\circuits>python setup.py install

and received an error message (which I am unable to duplicate, sorry)
followed by what appeared to be a good installation.

I attempted to run:
C:\hg\circuits\tmp\win32_service>python test_service.py install

and received an privilege violation.

I started a new Command Prompt using "Run as Administrator"
and got:
<console dump>
C:\hg\circuits\tmp\win32_service>python test_service.py install

C:\hg\circuits\tmp\win32_service>c:\python26\python.exe test_service.py
install

Service installed
Service started
</console dump>

which I think is what you intended. The service is indeed installed on my
system.
---
So...
What version of Windows are you running?

Where did "test_service.exe" come from? (I don't see it in your hg tree.)
--
Vernon Cole

On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 11:09 PM, James Mills
<prologic at shortcircuit.net.au>wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I've been trying to build a simple prototype Windows Services
> but am running into a problem when trying to install it.
>
> Running:
>
> $ test_service.exe install
>
> Produces the following error:
>
> ERROR: exceptions must be classes or instances, not str
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>  File "service.pyc", line 71, in install_service
>  File "win32serviceutil.pyc", line 295, in InstallService
>  File "win32serviceutil.pyc", line 83, in LocatePythonServiceExe
> TypeError: exceptions must be classes or instances, not str
>
> Now. We are using the latest version of pywin32 (214)
> for Python 2.6.x
>
> We tried deleting the *.pyc files in C:\Python26\Lib\ to no avail..
>
> The code is here:
> https://bitbucket.org/prologic/circuits/src/5e17015df110/tmp/win32_service/
>
> I'd appreciate any insight into this as my own research
> into this problem has yielded nothing positive so far.
>
> Thanks,
>
> cheers
> James
>
> --
> -- James Mills
> --
> -- "Problems are solved by method"
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From mhammond at skippinet.com.au  Mon Feb  7 23:54:21 2011
From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond)
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 09:54:21 +1100
Subject: [python-win32] DVCS options for pywin32
Message-ID: <4D50781D.6010309@skippinet.com.au>

I've been quite a laggard with source control for pywin32 - we are still 
on CVS and I've been waiting for a sign from above about which dvcs to 
move to - and with the current CVS outage at sourceforge and their plan 
to end-of-life CVS services, I really need to bite the bullet.

For a while hg was the only option, then bzr and git joined the crowd. 
With Python still targeting a move to hg from svn, that seems like the 
obvious choice - but I've been a bit unhappy with my hg experiences and 
with some of the discussions about how Python's workflow needs to change 
to accommodate it.  I initially struggled to get my head around git, but 
now that I am becoming more familiar with it I like it alot.  Windows 
support for both is currently fairly reasonable - especially if you 
don't care too much about "tortoise" style shell integration - which I 
don't.  Both hg and git finally seem to have workable options to support 
Windows line-endings in files.

Does anyone else in pywin32-land have any opinions about this?  Does 
anyone feel strongly one way or another?

Thanks,

Mark

From prologic at shortcircuit.net.au  Mon Feb  7 23:46:25 2011
From: prologic at shortcircuit.net.au (James Mills)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 08:46:25 +1000
Subject: [python-win32] InstallService TypeError: exceptions must be
 classes or instances not str
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=BWd++Bq7jxbb6HGL_-=X8wxCuTpQ8zSOQtMXa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikbR7QC9t1r+sHNoaHCzCLeX6f6yFiGmis-eejJ@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=BWd++Bq7jxbb6HGL_-=X8wxCuTpQ8zSOQtMXa@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 2:00 AM, Vernon Cole <vernondcole at gmail.com> wrote:
> Service installed
> Service started
> </console dump>

NB: We don't get this far. We get the TypeError exception instead.

> What version of Windows are you running?

Windows XP (SP3)
Python 2.6.4
pywin32-214
py2exe 0.6.9

> Where did "test_service.exe" come from? (I don't see it in your hg tree.)

python setup.py py2exe

Builds the test_service.exe executable.

cheers
James

-- 
-- James Mills
--
-- "Problems are solved by method"

From timr at probo.com  Tue Feb  8 00:18:38 2011
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 15:18:38 -0800
Subject: [python-win32] DVCS options for pywin32
In-Reply-To: <4D50781D.6010309@skippinet.com.au>
References: <4D50781D.6010309@skippinet.com.au>
Message-ID: <4D507DCE.6050603@probo.com>

Mark Hammond wrote:
> For a while hg was the only option, then bzr and git joined the crowd. 
> With Python still targeting a move to hg from svn, that seems like the 
> obvious choice - but I've been a bit unhappy with my hg experiences and 
> with some of the discussions about how Python's workflow needs to change 
> to accommodate it.  I initially struggled to get my head around git, but 
> now that I am becoming more familiar with it I like it alot.  Windows 
> support for both is currently fairly reasonable - especially if you 
> don't care too much about "tortoise" style shell integration - which I 
> don't.  Both hg and git finally seem to have workable options to support 
> Windows line-endings in files.
>
> Does anyone else in pywin32-land have any opinions about this?  Does 
> anyone feel strongly one way or another?

I had been resisting the urge to move away from CVS for our internal
source control, but at the urging of someone (on this list, as I
recall), I checked out three of the "modern" source code control
systems, and found that I liked Mercurial (hg) quite a lot.  I've now
converted to hg for all of my personal work.  I use only the
command-line tools -- I haven't installed the tortoise stuff either.

"git" just seemed to be too much of a lifestyle commitment.  You're
really working with a lot of details that seemed unnecessary to me.

I haven't had any line-ending hassles yet.  That has certainly been an
issue with CVS over the years.

-- 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.


From python at bdurham.com  Tue Feb  8 00:57:20 2011
From: python at bdurham.com (python at bdurham.com)
Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 18:57:20 -0500
Subject: [python-win32] DVCS options for pywin32
In-Reply-To: <4D50781D.6010309@skippinet.com.au>
References: <4D50781D.6010309@skippinet.com.au>
Message-ID: <1297123040.645.1419469863@webmail.messagingengine.com>

Mark,

I've heard very good things about github which provides free (open
source) and paid hosting plans for your projects.
https://github.com/

We're considering moving our proprietary code base to the paid version
of this service.

Cheers,
Malcolm

From mhammond at skippinet.com.au  Tue Feb  8 02:02:03 2011
From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond)
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 12:02:03 +1100
Subject: [python-win32] DVCS options for pywin32
In-Reply-To: <1297123040.645.1419469863@webmail.messagingengine.com>
References: <4D50781D.6010309@skippinet.com.au>
	<1297123040.645.1419469863@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Message-ID: <4D50960B.3050600@skippinet.com.au>

On 8/02/2011 10:57 AM, python at bdurham.com wrote:
> Mark,
>
> I've heard very good things about github which provides free (open
> source) and paid hosting plans for your projects.
> https://github.com/

github is a fine service, but the question is more about the source 
control system to use rather than the service which hosts it.  github 
supports only git, while sourceforge gives you the option.  Even if we 
went for git, I'd probably keep everything at sourceforge for a number 
of reasons.

That said, given Tim's response, Python's decision and assuming no 
message from Roger Upole expressing he has developed a strong preference 
for git since I last asked, I'll go with hg.

Thanks,

Mark

From skippy.hammond at gmail.com  Tue Feb  8 02:03:42 2011
From: skippy.hammond at gmail.com (Mark Hammond)
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 12:03:42 +1100
Subject: [python-win32] Turbogears 2.1 with mako
In-Reply-To: <89342.78991.qm@web32005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <89342.78991.qm@web32005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4D50966E.2020605@gmail.com>

On 8/02/2011 1:31 AM, Vineet Deodhar wrote:
> Hi All !
> For web-based solutions, I have started learning TG 2.1
> By and large, the documentation on TG 2.1 official site is a
> work-in-process.
> As regards to the templates (out of MVC), it tells how to go about Genshi.
> I wish to go with mako.
> Gone through the docs of mako (they are good).
> But still, it would be better if I can get a tutorial explaining how to
> use TG 2.1 with mako.
> (TG 2.0 has a topic on using TG 2.0 with Genshi)
> (It will save me from re-inventing the wheel, if somebody has written
> docs on these lines).
> Can anybody please point to any such tutorial?
> (I googled, but couldn't locate any convincing result.)

I think you would be best of asking on a Turbogears or mako specific 
list rather than a windows specific one...

Cheers,

Mark

From vernondcole at gmail.com  Tue Feb  8 02:17:04 2011
From: vernondcole at gmail.com (Vernon Cole)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 18:17:04 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] DVCS options for pywin32
In-Reply-To: <4D50960B.3050600@skippinet.com.au>
References: <4D50781D.6010309@skippinet.com.au>
	<1297123040.645.1419469863@webmail.messagingengine.com>
	<4D50960B.3050600@skippinet.com.au>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinM6LpTVwgKCHMC1vKQxdrFb7bUZVb2jTh4Y1Kz@mail.gmail.com>

My personal stuff is on bzr and I have put my open source stuff on hg,
partly because you said you were switching to it. A 3rd dvcs is one too many
IMHO.
I moved the stand-alone (IronPython) copy of adodbapi to hg on sourceforge
and it was painless. I'ld encourage hg.

Vernon Cole
(sent from my 'droid phone)

On Feb 7, 2011 6:06 PM, "Mark Hammond" <mhammond at skippinet.com.au> wrote:
> On 8/02/2011 10:57 AM, python at bdurham.com wrote:
>> Mark,
>>
>> I've heard very good things about github which provides free (open
>> source) and paid hosting plans for your projects.
>> https://github.com/
>
> github is a fine service, but the question is more about the source
> control system to use rather than the service which hosts it. github
> supports only git, while sourceforge gives you the option. Even if we
> went for git, I'd probably keep everything at sourceforge for a number
> of reasons.
>
> That said, given Tim's response, Python's decision and assuming no
> message from Roger Upole expressing he has developed a strong preference
> for git since I last asked, I'll go with hg.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark
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From mhammond at skippinet.com.au  Tue Feb  8 02:29:07 2011
From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond)
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 12:29:07 +1100
Subject: [python-win32] DVCS options for pywin32
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On 8/02/2011 12:17 PM, Vernon Cole wrote:
> My personal stuff is on bzr and I have put my open source stuff on hg,
> partly because you said you were switching to it. A 3rd dvcs is one too
> many IMHO.

Yeah - back in April 2009 I stated I would move to hg.  But given the 
time that passed, a few personal experiences and the various discussions 
on python-dev about some if the pain it is facing, I was looking if 
anyone's experience over the last couple of years could sway me away 
from it.  Apparently not - which I *think* is good :)

Cheers,

Mark

From cournape at gmail.com  Tue Feb  8 04:21:54 2011
From: cournape at gmail.com (David Cournapeau)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 12:21:54 +0900
Subject: [python-win32] DVCS options for pywin32
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On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Mark Hammond <mhammond at skippinet.com.au> wrote:
> On 8/02/2011 12:17 PM, Vernon Cole wrote:
>>
>> My personal stuff is on bzr and I have put my open source stuff on hg,
>> partly because you said you were switching to it. A 3rd dvcs is one too
>> many IMHO.
>
> Yeah - back in April 2009 I stated I would move to hg. ?But given the time
> that passed, a few personal experiences and the various discussions on
> python-dev about some if the pain it is facing, I was looking if anyone's
> experience over the last couple of years could sway me away from it.
> ?Apparently not - which I *think* is good :)

To be fair, I think any VCS would have caused numerous issues for
python-dev. The crowd just is conservative (which is a good thing may
I say for something like python).

Although I have never contributed much to pywin32, I can give you my
experience with git/bzr/hg and what happened with numpy, where we
moved from svn to git.

I think the so-called easiness of hg vs git is superficial. It is true
that git command line UI is inconsistent, and a lot of doc too
detailed. But its concepts are as simple as hg if not simpler. As for
an example: hg still does not know how to deal with branches IMO, in
the sense that you have several branch concepts (named branches vs
bookmarks vs clones), all with different UI and different level of
support from the tools. As soon as you want to share work based on
branches, you all have to agree on which process to use. It is then
not that much simpler, especially since bookmarks and named branches
have quite a few WTF (for example you can have multiple named branches
with the same name).

The argument that hg can do everything git can is kind of true (module
the index, which is unique to git AFAIK), but you certainly have to
dig into things which are not even in the hg book to do things which
are routine in git. What I can do with ~15 commands in git, I need
mercurial queues and numerous extensions in hg (which I have to use at
work).

Hg does have objective advantages over git: it is in python, and it is
easier to use for a significant crows on windows. This was not a big
issue for numpy, but may be for pywin32 given its purpose.

cheers,

David

From roberto.c.aguilar at gmail.com  Tue Feb  8 04:30:48 2011
From: roberto.c.aguilar at gmail.com (Roberto Aguilar)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 19:30:48 -0800
Subject: [python-win32] DVCS options for pywin32
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On Feb 7, 2011, at 5:29 PM, Mark Hammond wrote:
> On 8/02/2011 12:17 PM, Vernon Cole wrote:
>> My personal stuff is on bzr and I have put my open source stuff on hg,
>> partly because you said you were switching to it. A 3rd dvcs is one too
>> many IMHO.
> 
> Yeah - back in April 2009 I stated I would move to hg.  But given the time that passed, a few personal experiences and the various discussions on python-dev about some if the pain it is facing, I was looking if anyone's experience over the last couple of years could sway me away from it.  Apparently not - which I *think* is good :)

I have not used hg seriously, so I can't really give it a fair opinion.  But, what I've heard about it has been good.

I have used bzr and it was really frustrating.

I have been using Git seriously for about three years and must say the only reason I would use any other vcs is because a particular project is using it.

I'm not really sure what part of Git Tim's lifestyle commitment comment pertains to, but I'll say it likely holds true for any system one adopts.  Take Mark's comment, "[...] discussions about how Python's workflow needs to change to accommodate it."  Sounds like a lifestyle commitment.  For the basic edit-commit-update cycle, git is not all that different from any other system.  It's beyond that where it gets interesting and where, I think, Git shines.

Git extremely fast, flexible, usually stays out of your way, and lets you do what you want/need.  You can use its flexibility to your advantage or shoot yourself in the foot.  So far I have not shot myself bad enough to lose data, it provides some safety nets in order to bail you out in case you make a mistake.  The control it gives you over your code is well worth the learning curve.

I would give Git a serious look, and if you have dismissed it, take another peek.  The system has matured in the past few years.  There are some great resources available, for example:

http://progit.org/
http://git-scm.com/

I can try to answer any questions you have, feel free to send them my way.

Regards,
-Roberto.


From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Tue Feb  8 10:21:20 2011
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 09:21:20 +0000
Subject: [python-win32] DVCS options for pywin32
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On 07/02/2011 22:54, Mark Hammond wrote:
> I've been quite a laggard with source control for pywin32 - we are still
> on CVS and I've been waiting for a sign from above about which dvcs to
> move to - and with the current CVS outage at sourceforge and their plan
> to end-of-life CVS services, I really need to bite the bullet.
>
> For a while hg was the only option, then bzr and git joined the crowd.
> With Python still targeting a move to hg from svn, that seems like the
> obvious choice - but I've been a bit unhappy with my hg experiences and
> with some of the discussions about how Python's workflow needs to change
> to accommodate it. I initially struggled to get my head around git, but
> now that I am becoming more familiar with it I like it alot. Windows
> support for both is currently fairly reasonable - especially if you
> don't care too much about "tortoise" style shell integration - which I
> don't. Both hg and git finally seem to have workable options to support
> Windows line-endings in files.
>
> Does anyone else in pywin32-land have any opinions about this? Does
> anyone feel strongly one way or another?

I have no strong feelings: I've toyed with Hg (basically because
Python and pywin32 had both announced plans to move that way). I've
used git recently because I wanted to pull some stuff from github.
I've never used bzr, but would if someone advertised a
bzr-based project I was interested in using. We continue to use
svn at work and I continue to host my personal projects via
svn.

Something which I think makes a difference but which hasn't been
mentioned is the needs of a particular project when making this
choice -- as opposed to the intrinsic merits and established
userbase of any one of of the contenders. pywin32 has a very
small developer community and a very simple development process.
The nature of the code makes that unlikely to change. It doesn't
have, therefore, the same issues that the Python codebase is facing:
quite a few developers, each applying long-established workflows
which don't quite map on to the Hg worldview.

There is a certain symmetry in that the hg codebase itself uses
pywin32... so pywin32 might as well use hg. On the other hand,
that might be a cause of problems as the two trip over each other's
feet :)

I say: go for Hg as it is broadly acceptable by many people and
aligns, current wrangling notwithstanding, with the choice made
by the Python development community.

TJG

From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Tue Feb  8 10:23:47 2011
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 09:23:47 +0000
Subject: [python-win32] DVCS options for pywin32
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On 08/02/2011 09:21, Tim Golden wrote:
> Something which I think makes a difference but which hasn't been
> mentioned is the needs of a particular project when making this
> choice  [...]

.... and the conclusion I failed to state here was that I think
that it matter less whether this or that DVCS offers better
branching / merging / rebasing / whatever since there just isn't that
much complexity to the development process.

TJG

From mc at mclaveau.com  Wed Feb  9 15:36:19 2011
From: mc at mclaveau.com (Michel Claveau)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 15:36:19 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] IE (ocx) OK, but python never close
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Hi!

Starting of a super-exemple from the great Mark Hammond, I made a window 
with IE (ocx) embbed.

It run OK. Thanks to Pywin32's authors.

But...  When my script terminate, Python never close.
My code is huge, but I made a mini-version with the same problem. This 
script is below.

Any idea for a solution?
Thanks in advance.

Michel Claveau



=======================================================
# -*- coding: utf-8 -*-

import time,sys,ctypes
import win32ui, win32gui, win32con, win32api, win32uiole, win32com.client


# fenetre (window)
w_hinst = win32gui.dllhandle

wc = win32gui.WNDCLASS()
wc.lpszClassName = "Mini_win  -  {Echap} pour fermer. "
wc.style =  win32con.CS_GLOBALCLASS| win32con.CS_VREDRAW | 
win32con.CS_HREDRAW
wc.hbrBackground = 
ctypes.windll.gdi32.GetStockObject(ctypes.c_int(win32con.LTGRAY_BRUSH))
wc.hCursor = win32gui.LoadCursor(0, win32con.IDC_ARROW)
class_atom = win32gui.RegisterClass(wc)

style = win32con.WS_VISIBLE | win32con.WS_CAPTION | win32con.WS_SYSMENU
w_hwnd = win32gui.CreateWindowEx(0, class_atom,"mini_WIN", style, 40,10, 
800,480, 0, 0, w_hinst, None)
w_pyw = win32ui.CreateWindowFromHandle(w_hwnd)


# IE COM/cx
WebBrowserModule = 
win32com.client.gencache.EnsureModule("{EAB22AC0-30C1-11CF-A7EB-0000C05BAE0B}", 
0, 1, 1)
if WebBrowserModule is None:
    raise ImportError("IE non trouv?")

class MyWebBrowser(WebBrowserModule.WebBrowser):
    def __init__(self):
        self.__dict__["_dispobj_"] = None

    def CreateControl(self, windowTitle, style, rect, parent, id, 
lic_string=None):
        self.hwnd = win32ui.CreateControl(str(self.CLSID), windowTitle, 
style, rect, parent, id, None, False, lic_string)
        self.__dict__["_obj_"] = self.hwnd
        self.dispobj = 
self.default_interface(win32uiole.GetIDispatchForWindow(self._obj_))
        self.__dict__["_dispobj_"] = self.dispobj

win32ui.EnableControlContainer()
ocx = MyWebBrowser()
ieocx = ocx.CreateControl("Web Browser", win32con.WS_TABSTOP | 
win32con.WS_VISIBLE, (0,20,800,480), w_pyw, 3456)
ocx.Navigate("http://google.fr")


# waiting close/escape
while True:
    if win32gui.GetActiveWindow() != w_hwnd:
        break
    if (win32api.GetKeyState(win32con.VK_ESCAPE) & 0x8000):
        break
    time.sleep(0.01)
    win32gui.PumpWaitingMessages()


# close win
try:
    win32gui.DestroyWindow(w_hwnd)
except:
    pass
time.sleep(0.250)


#quit python
print 62
print sys.exit()
print 64
======================================================= 


From vernondcole at gmail.com  Wed Feb  9 16:11:50 2011
From: vernondcole at gmail.com (Vernon Cole)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 08:11:50 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] IE (ocx) OK, but python never close
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Michel:
  Without actually analyzing you script, I see one thing immediately...
You expect Windows and Internet Explorer to actually respond quickly.
Your timeout for the shutdown is 1/4 second.  When last I tried to automate
Windows functions, I gave up on using fixed timers, because sometimes it
would take a minute or more for my target window, or Windows itself, to
respond.  My ugly work-around was (in the Python script) to watch for the
target window to change size, so I knew it reacted to the first input before
sending the next.  Without adaptive timing, my delays had to be ridiculously
long, because usually response _was_ timely. (I finally ended up displaying
a new window which was a cartoon of a skeleton looking at a computer screen
which displayed "PLEASE WAIT". It made the correct impression on the users,
and they kept their hands off the mouse.)
  Of course, that may not be the problem at all, and your long script may
already allow for a slow system.
--
Vernon
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From mc at mclaveau.com  Wed Feb  9 17:28:08 2011
From: mc at mclaveau.com (Michel Claveau)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 17:28:08 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] IE (ocx) OK, but python never close
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Re !


> You expect Windows and Internet Explorer to actually respond quickly.

Yes. It is the case for my computers.
IE start in 4 s (1st launch, then 2 s) in my slowest machine.  On fast CPU: 
2 s (1st) & then immediatly.


> I gave up on using fixed timers, because sometimes it would take a minute 
> or more for my target window, or Windows itself, to respond.

Aarrrgggghhhhh!!!!!!   In a similar case, I defer to the abacus...


> Of course, that may not be the problem at all

Before ask help in this list, I tried dozens of differents things (but not 
THE good...)
The problem disappears when I use a local URL (ex.: file:///C:/test.html ). 
It come back if I "Navigate()" on web's URL.

After close the windows with the ocx, later in scripts, Python run OK: I can 
open others windows, call functions, scripts, etc.  All run OK... until the 
end. And, here, Python do not close...

If I comment these 2 lines:
   #ieocx = ocx.CreateControl("Web Browser", win32con.WS_TABSTOP | 
win32con.WS_VISIBLE, (0,20,800,480), w_pyw, 3456)
   #ocx.Navigate("http://google.fr")
all my scripts/tests run OK.


Good day! And sorry for my poor english...

-- 
Michel Claveau






From mc at mclaveau.com  Wed Feb  9 18:33:10 2011
From: mc at mclaveau.com (Michel Claveau)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 18:33:10 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] IE (ocx) OK, but python never close
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Re!

News:
  - no problem on XP
  - no problem on Vista
  - but, on win 7, I try with 6 computers. One no have the problem. Five 
have...  (32 and 64 bits)

I do not know why...

@+
-- 
MCi


From bburan at cns.nyu.edu  Thu Feb 10 23:33:28 2011
From: bburan at cns.nyu.edu (Brad Buran)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:33:28 -0500
Subject: [python-win32] speed of win32com versus comtypes
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Hi Mark:

I finally had a chance to sit down and test your suggestion.  It
worked beautifully.  The speed is now on-par with that of comtypes.
Since I'm not really sure what _get_good_object_ does, anything I
should need to watch out for since I've bypassed _get_good_object_?

Brad

On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Mark Hammond <skippy.hammond at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 26/01/2011 3:38 PM, Brad Buran wrote:
>>
>> I've been using win32com.client for the past year or so. ?Recently, I
>> noticed that there was a bottleneck in my code, and I tracked this
>> down to _get_good_single_object (line 478). ?When using comtypes
>> instead of win32com.client, calling the ReadTagVEX method on my COM
>> object is 4.8 times faster so the slowdown appears to be in
>> _get_good_object_. ?The COM function in question, ReadTagVEX, is
>> supposed to return an Array of VARIANT. ?These arrays are quite large
>> (on the order of 100,000 or 200,000 samples) on each read.
>>
>> I'd much rather stick with win32com.client if possible. ?Are there any
>> suggestions for speeding up this function? ?I already know that the
>> array returned will be an array of float32.
>
> You could just call InvokeTypes directly using a copy-paste of the generated
> makepy code - somewhat ugly, but probably effective.
>
> (There is probably an optimization opportunity to avoid the call to
> _get_good_object completely when the result of the function is other than a
> generic "object" (ie, VT_DISPATCH) or array of such objects - but in this
> case, the function declares it does return a generic VT_DISPATCH, so the
> optimization wouldn't be able to be used in this particular case...)
>
> Mark
>

From mhammond at skippinet.com.au  Fri Feb 11 00:30:52 2011
From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 10:30:52 +1100
Subject: [python-win32] speed of win32com versus comtypes
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On 11/02/2011 9:33 AM, Brad Buran wrote:
> Hi Mark:
>
> I finally had a chance to sit down and test your suggestion.  It
> worked beautifully.  The speed is now on-par with that of comtypes.
> Since I'm not really sure what _get_good_object_ does, anything I
> should need to watch out for since I've bypassed _get_good_object_?

If the function ever returned a COM object instead of a "simple" type, 
you would get back a "low-level" COM object that doesn't quite work as 
you expect (but even then, it would be trivial to manually "wrap" it 
like _get_good_object_ does.

Cheers,

Mark.

>
> Brad
>
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Mark Hammond<skippy.hammond at gmail.com>  wrote:
>> On 26/01/2011 3:38 PM, Brad Buran wrote:
>>>
>>> I've been using win32com.client for the past year or so.  Recently, I
>>> noticed that there was a bottleneck in my code, and I tracked this
>>> down to _get_good_single_object (line 478).  When using comtypes
>>> instead of win32com.client, calling the ReadTagVEX method on my COM
>>> object is 4.8 times faster so the slowdown appears to be in
>>> _get_good_object_.  The COM function in question, ReadTagVEX, is
>>> supposed to return an Array of VARIANT.  These arrays are quite large
>>> (on the order of 100,000 or 200,000 samples) on each read.
>>>
>>> I'd much rather stick with win32com.client if possible.  Are there any
>>> suggestions for speeding up this function?  I already know that the
>>> array returned will be an array of float32.
>>
>> You could just call InvokeTypes directly using a copy-paste of the generated
>> makepy code - somewhat ugly, but probably effective.
>>
>> (There is probably an optimization opportunity to avoid the call to
>> _get_good_object completely when the result of the function is other than a
>> generic "object" (ie, VT_DISPATCH) or array of such objects - but in this
>> case, the function declares it does return a generic VT_DISPATCH, so the
>> optimization wouldn't be able to be used in this particular case...)
>>
>> Mark
>>


From rsyring at inteli-com.com  Tue Feb 15 06:58:03 2011
From: rsyring at inteli-com.com (Randy Syring)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 00:58:03 -0500
Subject: [python-win32] DVCS options for pywin32
In-Reply-To: <4D509C63.1030902@skippinet.com.au>
References: <4D50781D.6010309@skippinet.com.au>	<1297123040.645.1419469863@webmail.messagingengine.com>	<4D50960B.3050600@skippinet.com.au>	<AANLkTinM6LpTVwgKCHMC1vKQxdrFb7bUZVb2jTh4Y1Kz@mail.gmail.com>
	<4D509C63.1030902@skippinet.com.au>
Message-ID: <4D5A15EB.3040709@inteli-com.com>

FWIW, I started out with Git and even read through the Pro Git book 
(which was very good and very helpful):

http://progit.org/

I used it for several months, but I ended up abandoning it because of 
what seemed to be second class support on Windows and, secondarily, my 
own difficulty in just getting used to it.  I tried HG next and have 
*never* looked back.  The only thing that ever made me miss git was 
github, but since Atlassian has taken over bitbucket I am extremely 
pleased with the HG/BB combination and I convert everything from SVN at 
my first opportunity.

The only thing that irritates me is that I can't use SSH repo URLs on 
windows without using TortoiseHG, at least, I haven't taken the time to 
get it working with the hg command line version (which is likely a 
platform issue, not HG's fault).

Anyway, it seems no one had any strong objections to HG.  Mark, does 
that mean you will be moving to HG?

--------------------------------------
Randy Syring
Intelicom
Direct: 502-276-0459
Office: 502-212-9913

For the wages of sin is death, but the
free gift of God is eternal life in
Christ Jesus our Lord (Rom 6:23)


On 02/07/2011 08:29 PM, Mark Hammond wrote:
> On 8/02/2011 12:17 PM, Vernon Cole wrote:
>> My personal stuff is on bzr and I have put my open source stuff on hg,
>> partly because you said you were switching to it. A 3rd dvcs is one too
>> many IMHO.
>
> Yeah - back in April 2009 I stated I would move to hg.  But given the 
> time that passed, a few personal experiences and the various 
> discussions on python-dev about some if the pain it is facing, I was 
> looking if anyone's experience over the last couple of years could 
> sway me away from it.  Apparently not - which I *think* is good :)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mark
> _______________________________________________
> python-win32 mailing list
> python-win32 at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
>

From news3 at mystrobl.de  Tue Feb 15 08:31:27 2011
From: news3 at mystrobl.de (Wolfgang Strobl)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 08:31:27 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] DVCS options for pywin32
References: <4D50781D.6010309@skippinet.com.au>	<1297123040.645.1419469863@webmail.messagingengine.com>	<4D50960B.3050600@skippinet.com.au>	<AANLkTinM6LpTVwgKCHMC1vKQxdrFb7bUZVb2jTh4Y1Kz@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <l8akl61glaj916gp2gsm5u863pg2eb04ej@4ax.com>

Randy Syring <rsyring at inteli-com.com>:

>The only thing that irritates me is that I can't use SSH repo URLs on 
>windows without using TortoiseHG, at least, I haven't taken the time to 
>get it working with the hg command line version (which is likely a 
>platform issue, not HG's fault).

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "without using TortoiseHG".  I use
TortoiseHG, which comes with hg.exe, so I don't see a point in
installing a separate command line compilation of a bare Mercurial, so I
don't know (or usually care) whether it works without having TortoiseHG
installed.  Anyway, the command line version (hg.exe) works like a
charm, here, when using ssh repos on Windows XP (32) and 7 (both 32 and
64).  I'm using pageant from PuTTY, btw.


-- 
Thank you for observing all safety precautions


From kobben at itc.nl  Tue Feb 15 11:47:39 2011
From: kobben at itc.nl (B Kobben)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 10:47:39 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [python-win32] Python and ASP - failure on 2nd and subsequent
	page loads
References: <32AA3A83235A25458AB5387177B883F8110C528AEE@MAIL.ith.local>
	<4AD6B37F.4030108@gmail.com>
	<32AA3A83235A25458AB5387177B883F8110F499D5B@MAIL.ith.local>
	<31d943390910161222l419f5482t3056cc56d5cb5a89@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AD8F725.9040903@skippinet.com.au>
	<31d943390910190934k745669c1s1afab70f7cffd413@mail.gmail.com>
	<31d943390910191139i3c72078cn612dfc63f97019af@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <loom.20110215T114508-587@post.gmane.org>

Mark, in the beginning of this thread you said:

> I will check that into cvs 
> so the next pywin32 version will have that fixed.

But after installing Python 2.7 the problem did return and your solution worked
again, so it looks like still not solved in the codebase...?

yours,

--
Barend K?bben 
ITC - University of Twente, Faculty of Geo-Information
Science and Earth Observation
PO Box 217, 7500AE Enschede (The Netherlands)


From rsyring at inteli-com.com  Tue Feb 15 19:10:08 2011
From: rsyring at inteli-com.com (Randy Syring)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 13:10:08 -0500
Subject: [python-win32] DVCS options for pywin32
In-Reply-To: <l8akl61glaj916gp2gsm5u863pg2eb04ej@4ax.com>
References: <4D50781D.6010309@skippinet.com.au>	<1297123040.645.1419469863@webmail.messagingengine.com>	<4D50960B.3050600@skippinet.com.au>	<AANLkTinM6LpTVwgKCHMC1vKQxdrFb7bUZVb2jTh4Y1Kz@mail.gmail.com>	<4D509C63.1030902@skippinet.com.au>	<4D5A15EB.3040709@inteli-com.com>
	<l8akl61glaj916gp2gsm5u863pg2eb04ej@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <4D5AC180.2020503@inteli-com.com>


On 02/15/2011 02:31 AM, Wolfgang Strobl wrote:
> Randy Syring<rsyring at inteli-com.com>:
>
>> The only thing that irritates me is that I can't use SSH repo URLs on
>> windows without using TortoiseHG, at least, I haven't taken the time to
>> get it working with the hg command line version (which is likely a
>> platform issue, not HG's fault).
> I'm not quite sure what you mean by "without using TortoiseHG".  I use
> TortoiseHG, which comes with hg.exe, so I don't see a point in
> installing a separate command line compilation of a bare Mercurial, so I
> don't know (or usually care) whether it works without having TortoiseHG
> installed.  Anyway, the command line version (hg.exe) works like a
> charm, here, when using ssh repos on Windows XP (32) and 7 (both 32 and
> 64).  I'm using pageant from PuTTY, btw.
>
>
I was referring to the inability I was having to do an 'hg clone 
ssh://... myproj'.  However, after posting that last night, I did a 
little research, and it looks like I just need to do some configuring: 
http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/AccessingSshRepositoriesFromWindows

Sorry for the bad info.

--------------------------------------
Randy Syring
Intelicom
Direct: 502-276-0459
Office: 502-212-9913

For the wages of sin is death, but the
free gift of God is eternal life in
Christ Jesus our Lord (Rom 6:23)


From news3 at mystrobl.de  Tue Feb 15 20:10:46 2011
From: news3 at mystrobl.de (Wolfgang Strobl)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 20:10:46 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] DVCS options for pywin32
References: <4D50781D.6010309@skippinet.com.au>	<1297123040.645.1419469863@webmail.messagingengine.com>	<4D50960B.3050600@skippinet.com.au>	<AANLkTinM6LpTVwgKCHMC1vKQxdrFb7bUZVb2jTh4Y1Kz@mail.gmail.com>	<4D509C63.1030902@skippinet.com.au>	<4D5A15EB.3040709@inteli-com.com>
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	<4D5AC180.2020503@inteli-com.com>
Message-ID: <9rill6t6v9kaj2t57pcto64436o986ohe3@4ax.com>

Randy Syring <rsyring at inteli-com.com>:

>On 02/15/2011 02:31 AM, Wolfgang Strobl wrote:
>> Randy Syring<rsyring at inteli-com.com>:
>>
>>> The only thing that irritates me is that I can't use SSH repo URLs on
>>> windows without using TortoiseHG, at least, I haven't taken the time to
>>> get it working with the hg command line version (which is likely a
>>> platform issue, not HG's fault).
>> I'm not quite sure what you mean by "without using TortoiseHG".  I use
>> TortoiseHG, which comes with hg.exe, so I don't see a point in
>> installing a separate command line compilation of a bare Mercurial, so I
>> don't know (or usually care) whether it works without having TortoiseHG
>> installed.  Anyway, the command line version (hg.exe) works like a
>> charm, here, when using ssh repos on Windows XP (32) and 7 (both 32 and
>> 64).  I'm using pageant from PuTTY, btw.
>>
>>
>I was referring to the inability I was having to do an 'hg clone 
>ssh://... myproj'.  

Well, so was I.  

>However, after posting that last night, I did a 
>little research, and it looks like I just need to do some configuring: 
>http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/AccessingSshRepositoriesFromWindows

Right. As I said above, I'm usually using pageant from the putty
distribution for managing my private keys.  Sometimes, when I've haven't
loaded a necessary key into the pageant key list yet, TortoisePlink
steps into the breach by asking for a password. Usually, I cancel the
operation, adds the necessary key to pageant and repeat the action, 


-- 
Thank you for observing all safety precautions


From abhi.forall at gmail.com  Wed Feb 16 04:54:39 2011
From: abhi.forall at gmail.com (abhijeet mahagaonkar)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 09:24:39 +0530
Subject: [python-win32] Python for Outlook
Message-ID: <AANLkTikQH0vtfomoUaA9OLFVwUap0e=1cVsXtJFi-9vb@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Pythoners,

I'm working on creating an application which will continuously monitor my
outlook inbox and wait for a new incoming mail.
It will scan To and cc fields and forward the email to another address
appropriately.

I want a few pointers on how best I will be able to achieve this.

Thanks in advance.

Abhijeet
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From abhi.forall at gmail.com  Wed Feb 16 06:04:36 2011
From: abhi.forall at gmail.com (abhijeet mahagaonkar)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 10:34:36 +0530
Subject: [python-win32] Python for Outlook
In-Reply-To: <20110216043007.GB11597@testhost.hutman.net>
References: <AANLkTikQH0vtfomoUaA9OLFVwUap0e=1cVsXtJFi-9vb@mail.gmail.com>
	<20110216043007.GB11597@testhost.hutman.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimkzubviUmUMJq-10FV6YsTBVtw91wGaZNkd3B5@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Kelly,

I'm using IMAP. Could you please let me know the which modules i can use?

Warm Regards,
Abhijeet.

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Kelly Black <kelly at hutman.net> wrote:

>
> Abhijeet,
>
> Can you use POP3 or IMAP?  There are some modules in Python to handle
> mail using IMAP and POP3 - (along with the SMTP module, you could have
> something in no time).
>
> Kelly
>
> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 09:24:39AM +0530, abhijeet mahagaonkar wrote:
> > Dear Pythoners,
> >
> > I'm working on creating an application which will continuously monitor my
> > outlook inbox and wait for a new incoming mail.
> > It will scan To and cc fields and forward the email to another address
> > appropriately.
> >
> > I want a few pointers on how best I will be able to achieve this.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Abhijeet
>
> > _______________________________________________
> > python-win32 mailing list
> > python-win32 at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
>
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From kelly at hutman.net  Wed Feb 16 05:30:07 2011
From: kelly at hutman.net (Kelly Black)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 22:30:07 -0600
Subject: [python-win32] Python for Outlook
References: <AANLkTikQH0vtfomoUaA9OLFVwUap0e=1cVsXtJFi-9vb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20110216043007.GB11597@testhost.hutman.net>


Abhijeet,

Can you use POP3 or IMAP?  There are some modules in Python to handle
mail using IMAP and POP3 - (along with the SMTP module, you could have
something in no time).

Kelly

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 09:24:39AM +0530, abhijeet mahagaonkar wrote:
> Dear Pythoners,
> 
> I'm working on creating an application which will continuously monitor my
> outlook inbox and wait for a new incoming mail.
> It will scan To and cc fields and forward the email to another address
> appropriately.
> 
> I want a few pointers on how best I will be able to achieve this.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Abhijeet

> _______________________________________________
> python-win32 mailing list
> python-win32 at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32


From matteo.boscolo at boscolini.eu  Thu Feb 17 17:30:25 2011
From: matteo.boscolo at boscolini.eu (Matteo Boscolo)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 17:30:25 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] How to create a empty com object
Message-ID: <4D5D4D21.5020002@boscolini.eu>

Hi all,
I have a property that need an empty comobject

|C++ definition:
HRESULT activeComponent(
[out, retval] ITDComponent** pVal)
HRESULT activeComponent([in] ITDComponent* pVal)|

how can I do it with python ??
In vb6 i use the following code:
pComponent.Document.activeComponent = Nothing

Thanks,
Matteo
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From dot_masr at yahoo.com  Fri Feb 18 10:29:02 2011
From: dot_masr at yahoo.com (Pwanani Pwanani)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 01:29:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [python-win32] regmon realtime
Message-ID: <523831.16205.qm@web120307.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Dear All,

im trying to write a realtime

registry monitor is it possible to do that with win32api ? and if so do

you have a sample recipe i can have a look at ?




      
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From vernondcole at gmail.com  Fri Feb 18 11:04:49 2011
From: vernondcole at gmail.com (Vernon Cole)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 03:04:49 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] FW: python-win32 image fields problem
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin7Nmk6+6AF1DBH8cnWupP1Wr7MOU3G0Lij4n8U@mail.gmail.com>
References: <SNT110-W577489A7E8A292CCA586E2AEE70@phx.gbl>
	<SNT110-W38F5878306365EE2C6F0CAEE70@phx.gbl>
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Message-ID: <AANLkTikRZQWq+qxgE+bzrBQN+LUGGzSrUVdyb0iBN5M0@mail.gmail.com>

Dardo:

Thanks for the data base you sent me. It allowed me to do a good test of
large binary data, and the scenery in the images is beautiful. I assume they
are images from the Canary Islands.  Also thanks for the VB sample program.
Why does anyone use Visual Basic? Python is so much simpler, as you will see
from the examples I am attaching.

  I am attaching three Python programs, each is a simple example of
inserting, updating, or selecting a .jpg image. The database, image file
names, and the record to update are hard coded in two of them, you can
figure out how you want to specify them.
  The showpix.py program accepts a single command line argument, the record
number (Codigo) of the image you want to see.  It uses your computer's
default image viewer to display the image.

  I've tested them on several versions of Python, 2.6 to 3.1, and they work
as intended.  BUT -- you MUST get a copy of the latest adodbapi from
http://sourceforge.net/projects/adodbapi/ .  There is a bug reading large
binary fields in the older versions.
--
Vernon

On Feb 3, 2011 4:24 AM, "Dardo Schuster Glez" <dardoschuster at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Sir
> >
> > How can y show a jpg that is in a SQL Server image field in a Qlabel
> object ??? and how to change and save it in the image field ???
> >
> > Thanks
> > Dardo Schuster
> > Tenerife - Canary Islands - Spain
> >
>
>
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From reckoner at gmail.com  Fri Feb 18 21:32:28 2011
From: reckoner at gmail.com (reckoner)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:32:28 -0800
Subject: [python-win32] Automation triggered based on image in window?
Message-ID: <4D5ED75C.4030104@gmail.com>

I'm trying to do some automation using Python and pywin. Is there a way 
to trigger when a particular image is shown?

In other words, I am trying to get the functionality that is described here:

    http://www.vtaskstudio.com/images/screenshot_recognition.png

and likewise here:

    http://www.autohotkey.com/docs/commands/ImageSearch.htm

using Python tools.

Anybody know anything like this?

From mhammond at skippinet.com.au  Sat Feb 19 01:03:28 2011
From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 11:03:28 +1100
Subject: [python-win32] How to create a empty com object
In-Reply-To: <LGTFTB$2ECF651C94123CC1C264BF1F4CAE0F6F@aruba.it>
References: <LGTFTB$2ECF651C94123CC1C264BF1F4CAE0F6F@aruba.it>
Message-ID: <4D5F08D0.3010903@skippinet.com.au>

[Re-added the python-win32 list - please keep replies on list]

On 19/02/2011 12:51 AM, matteo.boscolo at boscolini.eu wrote:
> with None It dose not work ..

In what way doesn't it work?  AFAIK, None is the closest thing Python 
has to Nothing - although you could try setting it to pythoncon.Empty

See the docs for nothing at 
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/0x9tb07z.aspx

> I need to create an empty ITDComponent I think ..

There isn't really any such thing...

Cheers,

Mark
>
> regards,
> Matteo
>
> From: "Mark Hammond" skippy.hammond at gmail.com
> To: "Matteo Boscolo" matteo.boscolo at boscolini.eu
> Cc:
> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:09:50 +1100
> Subject: Re: [python-win32] How to create a empty com object
>
>  > On 18/02/2011 3:30 AM, Matteo Boscolo wrote:
>  > > Hi all,
>  > > I have a property that need an empty comobject
>  > >
>  > > |C++ definition:
>  > > HRESULT activeComponent(
>  > > [out, retval] ITDComponent** pVal)
>  > > HRESULT activeComponent([in] ITDComponent* pVal)|
>  > >
>  > > how can I do it with python ??
>  > > In vb6 i use the following code:
>  > > pComponent.Document.activeComponent = Nothing
>  >
>  > You might find setting it to None works...
>  >
>  > HTH,
>  >
>  > Mark


From cappy2112 at gmail.com  Sat Feb 19 18:45:20 2011
From: cappy2112 at gmail.com (Tony Cappellini)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:45:20 -0800
Subject: [python-win32] Automation triggered based on image in window?
Message-ID: <AANLkTinTMTajpYyBG3O0f9fsw+A07M=9yyi+45wCgZ=e@mail.gmail.com>

>
>
> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:32:28 -0800
> From: reckoner <reckoner at gmail.com>
> To: Python-Win32 List <python-win32 at python.org>
> Subject: [python-win32] Automation triggered based on image in window?
> Message-ID: <4D5ED75C.4030104 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> I'm trying to do some automation using Python and pywin. Is there a way
> to trigger when a particular image is shown?
>
> In other words, I am trying to get the functionality that is described
> here:
>
>    http://www.vtaskstudio.com/images/screenshot_recognition.png
>
> and likewise here:
>
>    http://www.autohotkey.com/docs/commands/ImageSearch.htm
>
> using Python tools.
>
> Anybody know anything like this?
>
>
> Take a look at Sikuli.
http://groups.csail.mit.edu/uid/sikuli/download.shtml

It's not pure python it requires the JVM, and is still in its early stages.
But it does provide image recognition based events.
It's quite an ambitious project, but I think it still is a bit cumbersome to
use.
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From matteo.boscolo at boscolini.eu  Sun Feb 20 21:42:45 2011
From: matteo.boscolo at boscolini.eu (Matteo Boscolo)
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 21:42:45 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] How to create a empty com object
In-Reply-To: <4D5F08D0.3010903@skippinet.com.au>
References: <LGTFTB$2ECF651C94123CC1C264BF1F4CAE0F6F@aruba.it>
	<4D5F08D0.3010903@skippinet.com.au>
Message-ID: <4D617CC5.4050509@boscolini.eu>


I did some other search I try to pass a object() to the activeComponent 
but the active component need a COM VARIANT..

there is any way to create a null COM VARIANT ?
or to pass a c++ NULL equivalent object ?

regards,
Matteo


Il 19/02/2011 01:03, Mark Hammond ha scritto:
> [Re-added the python-win32 list - please keep replies on list]
>
> On 19/02/2011 12:51 AM, matteo.boscolo at boscolini.eu wrote:
>> with None It dose not work ..
>
> In what way doesn't it work?  AFAIK, None is the closest thing Python 
> has to Nothing - although you could try setting it to pythoncon.Empty
>
> See the docs for nothing at 
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/0x9tb07z.aspx
>
>> I need to create an empty ITDComponent I think ..
>
> There isn't really any such thing...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mark
>>
>> regards,
>> Matteo
>>
>> From: "Mark Hammond" skippy.hammond at gmail.com
>> To: "Matteo Boscolo" matteo.boscolo at boscolini.eu
>> Cc:
>> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:09:50 +1100
>> Subject: Re: [python-win32] How to create a empty com object
>>
>> > On 18/02/2011 3:30 AM, Matteo Boscolo wrote:
>> > > Hi all,
>> > > I have a property that need an empty comobject
>> > >
>> > > |C++ definition:
>> > > HRESULT activeComponent(
>> > > [out, retval] ITDComponent** pVal)
>> > > HRESULT activeComponent([in] ITDComponent* pVal)|
>> > >
>> > > how can I do it with python ??
>> > > In vb6 i use the following code:
>> > > pComponent.Document.activeComponent = Nothing
>> >
>> > You might find setting it to None works...
>> >
>> > HTH,
>> >
>> > Mark
>
>
>
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From mhammond at skippinet.com.au  Sun Feb 20 23:24:05 2011
From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 09:24:05 +1100
Subject: [python-win32] How to create a empty com object
In-Reply-To: <4D617CC5.4050509@boscolini.eu>
References: <LGTFTB$2ECF651C94123CC1C264BF1F4CAE0F6F@aruba.it>
	<4D5F08D0.3010903@skippinet.com.au> <4D617CC5.4050509@boscolini.eu>
Message-ID: <4D619485.609@skippinet.com.au>

On 21/02/2011 7:42 AM, Matteo Boscolo wrote:
>
> I did some other search I try to pass a object() to the activeComponent
> but the active component need a COM VARIANT..
>
> there is any way to create a null COM VARIANT ?
> or to pass a c++ NULL equivalent object ?

win32com automatically creates a variant - if you pass None, it will 
create a variant with VT_NULL, and if you pass pythoncom.Empty, it will 
pass a variant with VT_EMPTY.  If Empty also doesn't work, I'm afraid 
I'm out of ideas...

Cheers,

Mark.

From mhammond at skippinet.com.au  Mon Feb 21 01:40:52 2011
From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 11:40:52 +1100
Subject: [python-win32] [ANN] pywin32 build 215 released.
Message-ID: <4D61B494.6090202@skippinet.com.au>

Hi all,
   I'm happy to announce the release of pywin32 build 215.

This release has relatively few changes since build 214, although a 
number of bugs have been addressed - the notable changes are:

* The build process no longer includes a "manifest" in python 2.6 and 
later versions - this should hopefully avoid failure to load the modules 
in some environments (specifically, it should avoid "module not found" 
type errors thrown by Windows.)

* Pythonwin should have much better support for non-US keyboards - eg, 
calltips should now be displayed regardless of where the '(' key happens
to be located on your keyboard.

* Updated adodbapi.

* Support for Python 3.2 and 2.7.

As always, thanks to everyone who contributed (both code and issues) to 
this release!

Get it now via:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/pywin32/files/pywin32/Build%20215/

Cheers,

Mark.


From skippy.hammond at gmail.com  Mon Feb 21 01:52:48 2011
From: skippy.hammond at gmail.com (Mark Hammond)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 11:52:48 +1100
Subject: [python-win32] Python and ASP - failure on 2nd and subsequent
 page loads
In-Reply-To: <loom.20110215T114508-587@post.gmane.org>
References: <32AA3A83235A25458AB5387177B883F8110C528AEE@MAIL.ith.local>	<4AD6B37F.4030108@gmail.com>	<32AA3A83235A25458AB5387177B883F8110F499D5B@MAIL.ith.local>	<31d943390910161222l419f5482t3056cc56d5cb5a89@mail.gmail.com>	<4AD8F725.9040903@skippinet.com.au>	<31d943390910190934k745669c1s1afab70f7cffd413@mail.gmail.com>	<31d943390910191139i3c72078cn612dfc63f97019af@mail.gmail.com>
	<loom.20110215T114508-587@post.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <4D61B760.6070509@gmail.com>

On 15/02/2011 9:47 PM, B Kobben wrote:
> Mark, in the beginning of this thread you said:
>
>> I will check that into cvs
>> so the next pywin32 version will have that fixed.
>
> But after installing Python 2.7 the problem did return and your solution worked
> again, so it looks like still not solved in the codebase...?

It was checked into CVS, but no new binary release of pywin32 had been 
made.  You should find it fixed in the newly released build 215.

Cheers,

Mark

From vernondcole at gmail.com  Mon Feb 21 05:37:55 2011
From: vernondcole at gmail.com (Vernon Cole)
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 21:37:55 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] [ANN] pywin32 build 215 released.
In-Reply-To: <4D61B494.6090202@skippinet.com.au>
References: <4D61B494.6090202@skippinet.com.au>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikK+WB5=aKPmvZD-7nHuHCsRD4Jfn2vAUuhRUSf@mail.gmail.com>

Mark:
  Trouble!
   in build 215, the Python 3 versions of adodbapi are broken.
   It seems that when 2to3 is run on adodbapi.py, the "raise" filter is
missing, so that two syntax errors are left in the module.
--
Vernon

On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Mark Hammond <mhammond at skippinet.com.au>wrote:

> Hi all,
>  I'm happy to announce the release of pywin32 build 215.
>
> This release has relatively few changes since build 214, although a number
> of bugs have been addressed - the notable changes are:
>
> * The build process no longer includes a "manifest" in python 2.6 and later
> versions - this should hopefully avoid failure to load the modules in some
> environments (specifically, it should avoid "module not found" type errors
> thrown by Windows.)
>
> * Pythonwin should have much better support for non-US keyboards - eg,
> calltips should now be displayed regardless of where the '(' key happens
> to be located on your keyboard.
>
> * Updated adodbapi.
>
> * Support for Python 3.2 and 2.7.
>
> As always, thanks to everyone who contributed (both code and issues) to
> this release!
>
> Get it now via:
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/pywin32/files/pywin32/Build%20215/
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mark.
>
> _______________________________________________
> python-win32 mailing list
> python-win32 at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
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From mhammond at skippinet.com.au  Mon Feb 21 05:47:28 2011
From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 15:47:28 +1100
Subject: [python-win32] [ANN] pywin32 build 215 released.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikK+WB5=aKPmvZD-7nHuHCsRD4Jfn2vAUuhRUSf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4D61B494.6090202@skippinet.com.au>
	<AANLkTikK+WB5=aKPmvZD-7nHuHCsRD4Jfn2vAUuhRUSf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4D61EE60.6060803@skippinet.com.au>

On 21/02/2011 3:37 PM, Vernon Cole wrote:
> Mark:
>    Trouble!
>     in build 215, the Python 3 versions of adodbapi are broken.
>     It seems that when 2to3 is run on adodbapi.py, the "raise" filter is
> missing, so that two syntax errors are left in the module.

Ouch!  I'll look into this in the next day or so and if no other serious 
problems are reported, I'll probably just release the 3.x versions as a 
build 215.1.  If you have any time, helping to work out exactly what 
changes to setup.py are needed would help me alot :)

Thanks,

Mark

From mc at mclaveau.com  Mon Feb 21 07:36:17 2011
From: mc at mclaveau.com (Michel Claveau)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 07:36:17 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] [ANN] pywin32 build 215 released.
In-Reply-To: <4D61B494.6090202@skippinet.com.au>
References: <4D61B494.6090202@skippinet.com.au>
Message-ID: <97282607A8E04B83AB54EE11A4A3F490@MCI1330>

Hi!

Download
Uninstall 214
Install 215 for Py 2.6  (under Windows 7 ultimate 32 bits)
And...  this message:
---------------------------
AutoIt v3: PonxTest101.exe - Erreur syst?me
---------------------------
Impossible de d?marrer le programme car il manque MSVCR90.dll sur votre 
ordinateur. Essayez de r?installer le programme pour corriger ce probl?me.

OK, I know how to...   but the back of this old problem gives a bad 
reputation.

Then, no other problem.

@-salutations
-- 
Michel Claveau



From mc at mclaveau.com  Mon Feb 21 08:33:38 2011
From: mc at mclaveau.com (Michel Claveau)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 08:33:38 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] [ANN] pywin32 build 215 released.
In-Reply-To: <97282607A8E04B83AB54EE11A4A3F490@MCI1330>
References: <4D61B494.6090202@skippinet.com.au>
	<97282607A8E04B83AB54EE11A4A3F490@MCI1330>
Message-ID: <A47D151AC7884D9289AC9E3F26D77748@MCI1330>

Re !

...and aaarrrggghhh!!!

After install msvcr90.dll, Pywin32/215 is OK.
But no.
Several softwares, who call my COM servers (written with python/pywin32) 
give this message:
   ---------------------------
   Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library
   ---------------------------
   Runtime Error!

   Program: D:\Dev\python\xxx.exe

   R6034

   An application has made an attempt to load the C runtime library 
incorrectly.
   Please contact the application's support team for more information.

Curiously, no problem with python's scripts.
Uninstall 215 and reinstall 214  delete the problem.
Others infos:  Python 2.6.5 ; Win7-32bits ; UAC disable ; user is admin

@-salutations
-- 
Michel Claveau



From maubriga at gmail.com  Mon Feb 21 10:52:34 2011
From: maubriga at gmail.com (Mauro)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 09:52:34 +0000
Subject: [python-win32] [ANN] pywin32 build 215 released.
In-Reply-To: <A47D151AC7884D9289AC9E3F26D77748@MCI1330>
References: <4D61B494.6090202@skippinet.com.au>
	<97282607A8E04B83AB54EE11A4A3F490@MCI1330>
	<A47D151AC7884D9289AC9E3F26D77748@MCI1330>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=sm1EDJJWVDVks8Dopd+S9MaDKLnR4YjywdgOs@mail.gmail.com>

Michel,

I saw this error in two occasions:
- When I had an older version of numpy (updated numpy and it worked)
- When I import scikits timeseries. This package contains some pyd
files, and the error was related to importing those. Unfortunately I
was never able to solve this problem. (See
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-win32/2011-January/011124.html

Mauro

On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Michel Claveau <mc at mclaveau.com> wrote:
> Re !
>
> ...and aaarrrggghhh!!!
>
> After install msvcr90.dll, Pywin32/215 is OK.
> But no.
> Several softwares, who call my COM servers (written with python/pywin32)
> give this message:
> ?---------------------------
> ?Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library
> ?---------------------------
> ?Runtime Error!
>
> ?Program: D:\Dev\python\xxx.exe
>
> ?R6034
>
> ?An application has made an attempt to load the C runtime library
> incorrectly.
> ?Please contact the application's support team for more information.
>
> Curiously, no problem with python's scripts.
> Uninstall 215 and reinstall 214 ?delete the problem.
> Others infos: ?Python 2.6.5 ; Win7-32bits ; UAC disable ; user is admin
>
> @-salutations
> --
> Michel Claveau
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> python-win32 mailing list
> python-win32 at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
>

From timr at probo.com  Mon Feb 21 22:48:44 2011
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 13:48:44 -0800
Subject: [python-win32] regmon realtime
In-Reply-To: <523831.16205.qm@web120307.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <523831.16205.qm@web120307.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4D62DDBC.4060407@probo.com>

Pwanani Pwanani wrote:
>
> im trying to write a realtime
> registry monitor is it possible to do that with win32api ? and if so do
> you have a sample recipe i can have a look at ?
>
>

If you are looking to monitor only a single registry key, you can use
the RegNotifyChangeKeyValue API, and you should even be able to do this
from Python.  If you set fAsynchronous to false, it blocks until
something in the key changes, then returns to you.

If you are hoping to monitor the entire registry, that requires the
assistance of a kernel driver.

-- 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.


From jkrets at gmail.com  Tue Feb 22 07:11:48 2011
From: jkrets at gmail.com (Jesse Kretschmer)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 22:11:48 -0800
Subject: [python-win32] comObject set Null/None
Message-ID: <AANLkTikyU99=tLtVt8ZXq5CAOhjygqXP4Gcz3iMoUUHx@mail.gmail.com>

i wish to unset a com object value.  Specifically in active directory.  I
have been using Tim Golden's active_directory module to connect to a user
object.

I have tried setting the value to '', None, and even chr(0).  I am at a
loss.

example:
import active_directory as AD
userObj=AD.find_user("testuser")
userObj.set('telephoneNumber'='')

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "C:\test.py", line 3, in <module>
  userObj.set(telephoneNumber='')
File "C:\Python26\lib\site-packages\active_directory.py", line 514 in set
  self.com_object.SetInfo()
File "<COMObject LDAP://CN=testuser,CN=Users,DC=myDoman,DC=local>", line 2,
in SetInfo
pywintypes.com_error: (-2147352567, 'Exception occured.', (0, u'Active
Directory', u'The attribute syntax specified to the directory service is
invalid.\r\n', None, 0, -2147016693), None)


How do I delete the attribute value of an active directory user?
Thanks,
jesse
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From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Tue Feb 22 10:20:25 2011
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 09:20:25 +0000
Subject: [python-win32] comObject set Null/None
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikyU99=tLtVt8ZXq5CAOhjygqXP4Gcz3iMoUUHx@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikyU99=tLtVt8ZXq5CAOhjygqXP4Gcz3iMoUUHx@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4D637FD9.1090202@timgolden.me.uk>

On 22/02/2011 06:11, Jesse Kretschmer wrote:
> i wish to unset a com object value.  Specifically in active directory.
>   I have been using Tim Golden's active_directory module to connect to a
> user object.
>
> I have tried setting the value to '', None, and even chr(0).  I am at a
> loss.

[For those following at home, the code's basically a thin wrapper
around a pair of .Put / .SetInfo calls handing all the complexity
off to the pywin32 COM mechanism.]

Well I'm not quite sure why setting it to None / "" doesn't work, but
hopefully the following can provide a workaround:

<code>
import active_directory as ad

me = ad.find_user ()
me.PutEx (1, "telephoneNumber", "IRRELEVANT")

</code>

This should clear the telephoneNumber field; the first
param to PutEx is one of: Clear, Update, Append, Delete;
the second param is the field name; the third is usually
the value, but is irrelevant here. (I'd usually pass None
but I thought it might cloud the issue in this case)

Incidentally, it wasn't clear from your code fragment whether
you realised, but you can usually set AD fields directly by
referring to them as attributes:

   me.telephoneNumber = "504"

Passing None etc. doesn't work here either, hence the workaround
above.

TJG

From kobben at itc.nl  Tue Feb 22 11:02:31 2011
From: kobben at itc.nl (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Barend_K=F6bben?=)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 11:02:31 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Python and ASP - failure on 2nd and subsequent
 page loads
In-Reply-To: <4D61B760.6070509@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C9894808.3AE5%kobben@itc.nl>

My mistake, I did not check...
Thanks for the quick fix,
Cheers,
B.

On 21-02-11 01:52, "Mark Hammond" <skippy.hammond at gmail.com> wrote:

>On 15/02/2011 9:47 PM, B Kobben wrote:
>> Mark, in the beginning of this thread you said:
>>
>>> I will check that into cvs
>>> so the next pywin32 version will have that fixed.
>>
>> But after installing Python 2.7 the problem did return and your
>>solution worked
>> again, so it looks like still not solved in the codebase...?
>
>It was checked into CVS, but no new binary release of pywin32 had been
>made.  You should find it fixed in the newly released build 215.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Mark


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From jkrets at gmail.com  Tue Feb 22 18:07:52 2011
From: jkrets at gmail.com (Jesse Kretschmer)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 09:07:52 -0800
Subject: [python-win32] comObject set Null/None
In-Reply-To: <4D637FD9.1090202@timgolden.me.uk>
References: <AANLkTikyU99=tLtVt8ZXq5CAOhjygqXP4Gcz3iMoUUHx@mail.gmail.com>
	<4D637FD9.1090202@timgolden.me.uk>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik6Gw-yv_LVo1GAy0s4C0bYrca7UKHsYvFAqP4r@mail.gmail.com>

>
> <code>
> import active_directory as ad
>
> me = ad.find_user ()
> me.PutEx (1, "telephoneNumber", "IRRELEVANT")
>
> </code>
>
> This should clear the telephoneNumber field; the first
> param to PutEx is one of: Clear, Update, Append, Delete;
> the second param is the field name; the third is usually
> the value
>

This is exactly what I was looking for.  I did a bit of searching and found
the typical values for the first parameter:
ADS_PROPERTY_CLEAR = 1
ADS_PROPERTY_UPDATE = 2
ADS_PROPERTY_APPEND = 3
ADS_PROPERTY_DELETE = 4
from: http://www.winvistatips.com/changing-ad-profile-paths-t750970.html

Incidentally, it wasn't clear from your code fragment whether
> you realised, but you can usually set AD fields directly by
> referring to them as attributes:
>
>  me.telephoneNumber = "504"
>
> I had noticed that in your module, but In my instance, I will actually pass
a dictionary.
<code>
me.set(**details)
</code>

Tim, thanks for the help and the quick response.  I frequently see helpful
responses made by you scattered around the web.  I am fairly certain that I
would be stuck in VBScript if you were not around to help the community.
Cheers,
jesse
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From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Tue Feb 22 21:03:53 2011
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 20:03:53 +0000
Subject: [python-win32] comObject set Null/None
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik6Gw-yv_LVo1GAy0s4C0bYrca7UKHsYvFAqP4r@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikyU99=tLtVt8ZXq5CAOhjygqXP4Gcz3iMoUUHx@mail.gmail.com>	<4D637FD9.1090202@timgolden.me.uk>
	<AANLkTik6Gw-yv_LVo1GAy0s4C0bYrca7UKHsYvFAqP4r@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4D6416A9.6070607@timgolden.me.uk>

On 22/02/2011 5:07 PM, Jesse Kretschmer wrote:
> This is exactly what I was looking for.  I did a bit of searching and found
> the typical values for the first parameter:
> ADS_PROPERTY_CLEAR = 1
> ADS_PROPERTY_UPDATE = 2
> ADS_PROPERTY_APPEND = 3
> ADS_PROPERTY_DELETE = 4
> from: http://www.winvistatips.com/changing-ad-profile-paths-t750970.html

Ah. I should have posted the canonical links:

   http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa746353%28v=vs.85%29.aspx

   http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa772282%28v=vs.85%29.aspx

> Tim, thanks for the help and the quick response.  I frequently see helpful
> responses made by you scattered around the web.  I am fairly certain that I
> would be stuck in VBScript if you were not around to help the community.

Glad to have been of service :)

TJG

From william at whpiv.net  Thu Feb 24 01:25:00 2011
From: william at whpiv.net (Bill Purcell)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:25:00 -0600
Subject: [python-win32] com, CreateObject, and py2exe
Message-ID: <20110224002500.GA3251@lloyd>

I am trying to expose a couple Numpy functions to excel.  Namley
Numpy.linalg.inv and Numpy.array.dot.  I have successfully accessed
the following com server from within excel with CreateObject

========================================================================
test_com.py
========================================================================
from numpy.linalg import inv
from numpy import asarray
from win32com.client import Dispatch


class NevcoModule:
    _public_methods_ = [ 'MInverse', 'MMult', "TestInstall" ]
    _reg_progid_ = "Nevco.Modules"
    _reg_clsid_ = "{79D06C97-331A-4BF8-824A-8DA3B618F8DB}"

    def TestInstall(self):
        return "Yes"

    def MInverse(self,arg):
        myarg = asarray(arg)
        i = inv(myarg)
        return i

    def MMult(self,M1,M2):
        mM1 = asarray(M1)
        mM2 = asarray(M2)
        x = mM1.dot(mM2)
        return x

if __name__=='__main__':
    import win32com.server.register
    win32com.server.register.RegisterClasses(NevcoModule)
    interp = Dispatch("Nevco.Modules")
    raw_input("Leave running and then press enter to exit.")
    win32com.server.register.UnregisterClasses(NevcoModule)
========================================================================

I then have a function in VBA inside excel which accesses this server
with Obj = CreateObject("Nevco.Modules").  I would like to share this
code with a couple coworkers who are not interested in learning
python, so I would like to create an executable to start the server
for them.  My py2exe setup.py look like

========================================================================
setup.py
========================================================================
from distutils.core import setup
import py2exe

setup(
    name="Nevco Excel",
    version="0.1",
    description='Functions to use inside excel.',
    author='Bill Purcell',
    author_email='bpurcell at nevco.com',
    com_server=["win32com.servers.interp"],
    options = {'py2exe': {'includes': 'numpy'}},
)
========================================================================
 
Unfortunately when I run the test_com.exe generated from python
setup.py py2exe, I get a "Cannot Create Object" error.  I can't
remember the exact error but that is pretty close.  When I run the
function excel just hangs and a console displays with the text about
installing the "Nevco.Modules" object.  What is the right approach to
exposing com servers to be accessible via py2exe to VBA?

Also, I would like to eventually move towards maybe writing an
Add-in.  Does anyone have any "Hello World" excell Add-in tutorials
for Python?

I know these topics are slightly redundant in the list but I couldn't
find any good answers.

Regards,
Bill

From skippy.hammond at gmail.com  Thu Feb 24 02:29:13 2011
From: skippy.hammond at gmail.com (Mark Hammond)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:29:13 +1100
Subject: [python-win32] com, CreateObject, and py2exe
In-Reply-To: <20110224002500.GA3251@lloyd>
References: <20110224002500.GA3251@lloyd>
Message-ID: <4D65B469.6080800@gmail.com>

On 24/02/2011 11:25 AM, Bill Purcell wrote:
...

> I then have a function in VBA inside excel which accesses this server
> with Obj = CreateObject("Nevco.Modules").  I would like to share this
> code with a couple coworkers who are not interested in learning
> python, so I would like to create an executable to start the server
> for them.

I think there might be a misconception here - the if name=='__main__' 
block is *only* doing registration and unregistration - the COM object 
is not running in that process.  Excel will be loading the COM object 
in-process and manage its lifetime itself.  There really isn't a need to 
have your main block like that - you can just register it once and leave 
it registered until explicitly unregistered.

> setup(
>      name="Nevco Excel",
>      version="0.1",
>      description='Functions to use inside excel.',
>      author='Bill Purcell',
>      author_email='bpurcell at nevco.com',
>      com_server=["win32com.servers.interp"],
>      options = {'py2exe': {'includes': 'numpy'}},

You want the com_server element to refer to your COM module - as 
specified, your object will expose the 'python.interpreter' sample 
object for use.

What should happen is that py2exe will create a DLL (and possibly a 
.exe) for you - but similarly to as mentioned above, this DLL is loaded 
by excel automatically - you just register it once (probably via 
regsvr32.exe) and Excel can then use it as necessary.  Note however that 
the registration will need to be done by an elevated administrator 
account on Windows 7 - but once registered a regular user can use it. 
The most common approach is to use an installer like Wise or nsis to 
perform the installation and registration after prompting for elevation.

> Also, I would like to eventually move towards maybe writing an
> Add-in.  Does anyone have any "Hello World" excell Add-in tutorials
> for Python?

Check out the win32com\Demos directory - but AFAIK, the excel samples 
there haven't been tested with recent versions of excel.

HTH,

Mark

From william at whpiv.net  Thu Feb 24 03:05:33 2011
From: william at whpiv.net (Bill Purcell)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:05:33 -0600
Subject: [python-win32] com, CreateObject, and py2exe
In-Reply-To: <4D65B469.6080800@gmail.com>
References: <20110224002500.GA3251@lloyd>
 <4D65B469.6080800@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20110224020533.GA4523@lloyd>

On 240211-12:29, Mark Hammond wrote:
> I think there might be a misconception here - the if
> name=='__main__' block is *only* doing registration and
> unregistration - the COM object is not running in that process.
> Excel will be loading the COM object in-process and manage its
> lifetime itself.  There really isn't a need to have your main block
> like that - you can just register it once and leave it registered
> until explicitly unregistered.

Yes.  I guess I didn't realize that the process isn't tied to that
terminal/console instance. I am use to doing something like 'myprogram
&' in a bash terminal, and the myprogram process is dependent on the
console process.

> What should happen is that py2exe will create a DLL (and possibly a
> .exe) for you - but similarly to as mentioned above, this DLL is
> loaded by excel automatically - you just register it once (probably
> via regsvr32.exe) and Excel can then use it as necessary.  

If I can get out of my own way and get through the learning curve
maybe I can get these results... :)

> Check out the win32com\Demos directory - but AFAIK, the excel
> samples there haven't been tested with recent versions of excel.

I will try this tomorrow on my work PC and see if things don't go
better.  

By the way, I look forward to reading your book.  It should be here
this week.

Regards,
Bill

From mhammond at skippinet.com.au  Thu Feb 24 03:43:34 2011
From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 13:43:34 +1100
Subject: [python-win32] com, CreateObject, and py2exe
In-Reply-To: <20110224023257.GA5523@lloyd>
References: <20110224002500.GA3251@lloyd> <4D65B469.6080800@gmail.com>
	<20110224020533.GA4523@lloyd> <20110224023257.GA5523@lloyd>
Message-ID: <4D65C5D6.40306@skippinet.com.au>

On 24/02/2011 1:32 PM, Bill Purcell wrote:
> On 230211-20:05, Bill Purcell wrote:
>> On 240211-12:29, Mark Hammond wrote:
>>> Check out the win32com\Demos directory - but AFAIK, the excel
>>> samples there haven't been tested with recent versions of excel.
>
> I am looking at excelAddin.py.  I am wondering if it would be possible
> to register functions directly without messing with CreateObject in
> VBA?  I see self.appHostApp.CommandBars.Add() and am hoping I can do
> something like self.appHostApp.WorksheetFunction.Add()?  Is it
> possible to register/add functions when registering an addin in
> excelAddin.py?

I'm afraid I have no idea - hopefully someone else on this list will 
have more knowledge of Excel than I.

Cheers,

Mark

From william at whpiv.net  Thu Feb 24 03:32:57 2011
From: william at whpiv.net (Bill Purcell)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:32:57 -0600
Subject: [python-win32] com, CreateObject, and py2exe
In-Reply-To: <20110224020533.GA4523@lloyd>
References: <20110224002500.GA3251@lloyd> <4D65B469.6080800@gmail.com>
	<20110224020533.GA4523@lloyd>
Message-ID: <20110224023257.GA5523@lloyd>

On 230211-20:05, Bill Purcell wrote:
> On 240211-12:29, Mark Hammond wrote:
> > Check out the win32com\Demos directory - but AFAIK, the excel
> > samples there haven't been tested with recent versions of excel.

I am looking at excelAddin.py.  I am wondering if it would be possible
to register functions directly without messing with CreateObject in
VBA?  I see self.appHostApp.CommandBars.Add() and am hoping I can do
something like self.appHostApp.WorksheetFunction.Add()?  Is it
possible to register/add functions when registering an addin in
excelAddin.py?

Bill

From tdarugar at yahoo.com  Fri Feb 25 19:23:23 2011
From: tdarugar at yahoo.com (Parand Tony Darugar)
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:23:23 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [python-win32] Missing methods from result of Dispatch or
	EnsureDispatch
Message-ID: <411095.83772.qm@web31804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hello,

I'm attempting to use COM to connect with Microsoft Dynamics GP via eConnect. I have a working VB program, and I also have a working IronPython program. However, I can't seem to get it to work with win32com.

The main assembly I'm trying to get at is Microsoft.Dynamics.GP.eConnect.eConnectMethods. In VB this looks like:

Dim eConCall As Microsoft.Dynamics.GP.eConnect.eConnectMethods

And in IronPython I'm able to:

clr.AddReference("Microsoft.Dynamics.GP.eConnect")
from Microsoft.Dynamics.GP.eConnect import eConnectMethods
connect = eConnectMethods()
connect.eConnect_EntryPoint(...)

In cPython 2.6 with win32com I'm able to do the Dispatch or EnsureDispatch, but the resulting handle has no usable methods:

>>> em = win32com.client.gencache.EnsureDispatch("Microsoft.Dynamics.GP.eConnect.eConnectMethods")
>>> dir(em)  # only public methods are CLSID and coclass_clsid
>>> instance = em()
AttributeError: _eConnectMethods instance has no __call__ method

>> em.eConnect_EntryPoint(...)
AttributeError: '<win32com.gen_py.7120EE94-41A9-39FF-A2B4-C0F9D2B0897Dx0x10x0._e
ConnectMethods._eConnectMethods instance at 0x12286632>' object has no attribute 'eConnect_EntryPoint'

Any ideas? Words of wisdom would be most appreciated.

Thanks,

Parand


      

From timr at probo.com  Fri Feb 25 20:02:01 2011
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:02:01 -0800
Subject: [python-win32] Missing methods from result of Dispatch
	or	EnsureDispatch
In-Reply-To: <411095.83772.qm@web31804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <411095.83772.qm@web31804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4D67FCA9.1060301@probo.com>

Parand Tony Darugar wrote:
> I'm attempting to use COM to connect with Microsoft Dynamics GP via eConnect. I have a working VB program, and I also have a working IronPython program. However, I can't seem to get it to work with win32com.
>
> The main assembly I'm trying to get at is Microsoft.Dynamics.GP.eConnect.eConnectMethods. In VB this looks like:
>
> Dim eConCall As Microsoft.Dynamics.GP.eConnect.eConnectMethods
>
> And in IronPython I'm able to:
>
> clr.AddReference("Microsoft.Dynamics.GP.eConnect")
> from Microsoft.Dynamics.GP.eConnect import eConnectMethods
> connect = eConnectMethods()
> connect.eConnect_EntryPoint(...)

Perhaps I'm missing something, but in both cases there, you are creating
a .NET object from a .NET assembly, not a COM object.  It's possible
Microsoft has a parallel interface available for COM apps, but there's
not necessarily any relationship between their object models.

Do you have an example that shows Dynamics being used from a non-managed
COM application?

-- 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.


From tdarugar at yahoo.com  Fri Feb 25 20:14:34 2011
From: tdarugar at yahoo.com (Parand Tony Darugar)
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:14:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [python-win32] Missing methods from result of Dispatch or
	EnsureDispatch
Message-ID: <104026.15122.qm@web31803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi Tim,

Thank you for the clarification. You're not missing anything, I'm entirely new to the world of COM and .Net and didn't understand the difference. 

I'll look for a non-managed COM example. In the meanwhile:

- Outside of Ironpython, is there a reasonable way to interaction with .Net objects/assemblies in Python?

- Does the fact that Dispatch is able to bring in that object mean anything? I'm looking for clues on where to look for the COM interfaces, was hoping there was something to these COM handles I'm able to dispatch.

Best,
 
Parand


----- Original Message -----
From:Tim Roberts <timr at probo.com>
To:"python-win32 at python.org" <python-win32 at python.org>
Cc:
Sent:Friday, February 25, 2011 11:02 AM
Subject:Re: [python-win32] Missing methods from result of Dispatch or EnsureDispatch

Parand Tony Darugar wrote:
> I'm attempting to use COM to connect with Microsoft Dynamics GP via eConnect. I have a working VB program, and I also have a working IronPython program. However, I can't seem to get it to work with win32com.
>
> The main assembly I'm trying to get at is Microsoft.Dynamics.GP.eConnect.eConnectMethods. In VB this looks like:
>
> Dim eConCall As Microsoft.Dynamics.GP.eConnect.eConnectMethods
>
> And in IronPython I'm able to:
>
> clr.AddReference("Microsoft.Dynamics.GP.eConnect")
> from Microsoft.Dynamics.GP.eConnect import eConnectMethods
> connect = eConnectMethods()
> connect.eConnect_EntryPoint(...)

Perhaps I'm missing something, but in both cases there, you are creating
a .NET object from a .NET assembly, not a COM object.  It's possible
Microsoft has a parallel interface available for COM apps, but there's
not necessarily any relationship between their object models.

Do you have an example that shows Dynamics being used from a non-managed
COM application?

-- 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.

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From planders at gmail.com  Fri Feb 25 20:31:25 2011
From: planders at gmail.com (Preston Landers)
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:31:25 -0600
Subject: [python-win32] Missing methods from result of Dispatch or
	EnsureDispatch
In-Reply-To: <104026.15122.qm@web31803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <104026.15122.qm@web31803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikbWqiBnrog1ZzrtEAn7R1CQ-MvGw=ZxT+z1AF9@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Parand Tony Darugar <tdarugar at yahoo.com>wrote:

>
> - Outside of Ironpython, is there a reasonable way to interaction with .Net
> objects/assemblies in Python?
>
>
I haven't worked with it myself, but it looks like this is an option:

http://pythonnet.sourceforge.net/

thanks,
Preston
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From timr at probo.com  Fri Feb 25 20:59:28 2011
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:59:28 -0800
Subject: [python-win32] Missing methods from result of Dispatch or
	EnsureDispatch
In-Reply-To: <104026.15122.qm@web31803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <104026.15122.qm@web31803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4D680A20.8010006@probo.com>

Parand Tony Darugar wrote:
> Thank you for the clarification. You're not missing anything, I'm entirely new to the world of COM and .Net and didn't understand the difference. 
>
> I'll look for a non-managed COM example. In the meanwhile:
>
> - Outside of Ironpython, is there a reasonable way to interaction with .Net objects/assemblies in Python?

Not really.  Only .NET apps can use .NET objects.  IronPython is the
.NET implementation of Python, and part of its power lies in the ability
to exploit the huge .NET CLR.  One quite reasonable answer to your
dilemma is just to focus on IronPython.

> - Does the fact that Dispatch is able to bring in that object mean anything? I'm looking for clues on where to look for the COM interfaces, was hoping there was something to these COM handles I'm able to dispatch.

Yes, that's a very good point, and it nearly caused me to abort my
original reply.  The fact that you were able to create an object at all
suggests that there may be a COM implementation of these objects.  The
difficulty will be figuring out how they can be used.  All of the
Googling I did led only to the .NET implementations.

-- 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.


From roche.maxime at creativeinfinity.fr  Sat Feb 26 13:13:52 2011
From: roche.maxime at creativeinfinity.fr (Creative iNFiNiTY)
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 13:13:52 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] get the ao.Name encoding
Message-ID: <A93E1847-42AF-4661-B70C-F97ED59F8772@creativeinfinity.fr>

Hello,
There is many method to get the window title,
from a process it came with the ao.Name
but i don't know how to get the encoding of window title,
for example when the browser surf on page in another language.
is there a way to get it with win32 ?

Thanks

Roche Maxime
Creative iNFiNiTY
roche.maxime at creativeinfinity.fr


From greg.ewing at canterbury.ac.nz  Sat Feb 26 21:31:21 2011
From: greg.ewing at canterbury.ac.nz (Greg Ewing)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 09:31:21 +1300
Subject: [python-win32] Possible future direction for PyGUI on Win32
Message-ID: <4D696319.8080803@canterbury.ac.nz>

Until recently I didn't think it was possible to use .NET
libraries from CPython, but then I came across this:

http://pythonnet.sourceforge.net/

Using this, it looks like it should be possible to create
a PyGUI implementation based on Windows Forms. This has the
potential to solve a number of headaches, as it appears
to be a considerably more capable library than base win32.

The downside is that 2k and XP users may need to install
a .NET runtime. How would people feel about that?

--
Greg

From timjohnson at google.com  Sat Feb 26 21:55:36 2011
From: timjohnson at google.com (Tim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 12:55:36 -0800
Subject: [python-win32] Possible future direction for PyGUI on Win32
In-Reply-To: <4D696319.8080803@canterbury.ac.nz>
References: <4D696319.8080803@canterbury.ac.nz>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinfWK7WuS0UK66ocLotRubeiZ452H3yOALy4g84@mail.gmail.com>

That sounds very promising.  Thanks for pointing this out, too.  I hadn't
realized this was out there.

On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Greg Ewing <greg.ewing at canterbury.ac.nz>wrote:

> Until recently I didn't think it was possible to use .NET
> libraries from CPython, but then I came across this:
>
> http://pythonnet.sourceforge.net/
>
> Using this, it looks like it should be possible to create
> a PyGUI implementation based on Windows Forms. This has the
> potential to solve a number of headaches, as it appears
> to be a considerably more capable library than base win32.
>
> The downside is that 2k and XP users may need to install
> a .NET runtime. How would people feel about that?
>
> --
> Greg
> _______________________________________________
> python-win32 mailing list
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>



-- 
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From orasnita at gmail.com  Sun Feb 27 00:50:34 2011
From: orasnita at gmail.com (Octavian Rasnita)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 01:50:34 +0200
Subject: [python-win32] Possible future direction for PyGUI on Win32
References: <4D696319.8080803@canterbury.ac.nz>
Message-ID: <96FB0913B4C9465A8B1AB3EF8359AF63@teddy>

From: "Greg Ewing" <greg.ewing at canterbury.ac.nz>

> Until recently I didn't think it was possible to use .NET
> libraries from CPython, but then I came across this:
> 
> http://pythonnet.sourceforge.net/
> 
> Using this, it looks like it should be possible to create
> a PyGUI implementation based on Windows Forms. This has the
> potential to solve a number of headaches, as it appears
> to be a considerably more capable library than base win32.
> 
> The downside is that 2k and XP users may need to install
> a .NET runtime. How would people feel about that?
> 


If it will still be possible to use the standard Win32 GUI, it is OK to be able to use Windows Forms as an adition.

Octavian




From greg.ewing at canterbury.ac.nz  Sun Feb 27 01:21:54 2011
From: greg.ewing at canterbury.ac.nz (Greg Ewing)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 13:21:54 +1300
Subject: [python-win32] Possible future direction for PyGUI on Win32
References: <4D696319.8080803@canterbury.ac.nz>
	<96FB0913B4C9465A8B1AB3EF8359AF63@teddy>
Message-ID: <D85EA30224A3CC40ACA1E2FE6D4D6914351735@cantwe3.canterbury.ac.nz>

From: Octavian Rasnita [mailto:orasnita at gmail.com]

> If it will still be possible to use the standard Win32 GUI,
> it is OK to be able to use Windows Forms as an adition.

No, if I go this way, I would probably stop maintaining
the current implementation. I don't want to have to
support two backends on Windows, and some of the things
I intend to do with Windows Forms would be impractical
to do using the raw Win32 API.

-- 
Greg



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From klonuo at gmail.com  Sun Feb 27 01:41:10 2011
From: klonuo at gmail.com (Klonuo)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 01:41:10 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Possible future direction for PyGUI on Win32
In-Reply-To: <D85EA30224A3CC40ACA1E2FE6D4D6914351735@cantwe3.canterbury.ac.nz>
References: <96FB0913B4C9465A8B1AB3EF8359AF63@teddy>
	<D85EA30224A3CC40ACA1E2FE6D4D6914351735@cantwe3.canterbury.ac.nz>
Message-ID: <20110227014108.B490.B1C76292@gmail.com>

> No, if I go this way, I would probably stop maintaining
> the current implementation. I don't want to have to
> support two backends on Windows, and some of the things
> I intend to do with Windows Forms would be impractical
> to do using the raw Win32 API.

With all due respect to maintainers of .NET connectors, but this kind of thinking is one of the main reasons why I'm always avoiding any kind of .NET application - in majority they are suboptimal on several scales and give "developers" freedom to do things they shouldn't, by abusing precious resources.

Cheers


From orasnita at gmail.com  Sun Feb 27 09:20:53 2011
From: orasnita at gmail.com (Octavian Rasnita)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 10:20:53 +0200
Subject: [python-win32] Possible future direction for PyGUI on Win32
References: <4D696319.8080803@canterbury.ac.nz>
	<96FB0913B4C9465A8B1AB3EF8359AF63@teddy>
	<D85EA30224A3CC40ACA1E2FE6D4D6914351735@cantwe3.canterbury.ac.nz>
Message-ID: <C0ACD4C9331D40C583F9F0270F25D89D@teddy>

From: "Greg Ewing" <greg.ewing at canterbury.ac.nz>
From: Octavian Rasnita [mailto:orasnita at gmail.com]

> If it will still be possible to use the standard Win32 GUI,
> it is OK to be able to use Windows Forms as an adition.

No, if I go this way, I would probably stop maintaining
the current implementation. I don't want to have to
support two backends on Windows, and some of the things
I intend to do with Windows Forms would be impractical
to do using the raw Win32 API.

-- 
Greg



Oh, in that case imho I think this is a very bad idea.

Octavian


From mhammond at skippinet.com.au  Sun Feb 27 12:40:22 2011
From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 22:40:22 +1100
Subject: [python-win32] [ANN] pywin32 build 216 released.
Message-ID: <4D6A3826.7020106@skippinet.com.au>

Hi all,
   Hot on the heels of being happy to announce build 215, I'm fairly 
nonchalant about announcing the release of pywin32 build 216 <wink>.

This release is primarily to address some build related issues in build 
215.  If you use pywin32 to host COM objects (as opposed to simply using 
COM objects), use it to host IIS ISAPI applications, or wish to use the 
adodbapi package on Python 3.x, you should upgrade to build 216.  The 
changes in this release are:

* If you hosted COM objects or used ISAPI, your object/app would 
probably have failed to load, probably with a message related to 
msvcr90.dll - this has been fixed.  In the case of COM, it has been 
fixed by introducing a new DLL as a "loader" for COM objects 
(pythoncomloaderxx.dll) which delegates to pythoncomxx.dll, but has an 
appropriate "manifest".

* ISAPI apps could also crash when using GetServerVariable for an 
unknown variable on Windows 7.

* adodbapi for Python 3.x builds have had syntax errors fixed.

* Pythonwin now prints (ie, to a printer) correctly on Python 3.x and 
allows the background color of the selection to be customized.

* A number of test related changes.

As always, thanks to everyone who contributed (both code and issues) to 
this release!

Get it now via:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/pywin32/files/pywin32/Build216/

Cheers,

Mark.

From prologic at shortcircuit.net.au  Sun Feb 27 20:21:34 2011
From: prologic at shortcircuit.net.au (James Mills)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 05:21:34 +1000
Subject: [python-win32] [ANN] pywin32 build 216 released.
In-Reply-To: <4D6A3826.7020106@skippinet.com.au>
References: <4D6A3826.7020106@skippinet.com.au>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim57111ADFNdaXxTTp=Kkj4FUacKiq=nmCprX6o@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Mark Hammond <mhammond at skippinet.com.au> wrote:
> Hi all,
> ?Hot on the heels of being happy to announce build 215, I'm fairly
> nonchalant about announcing the release of pywin32 build 216 <wink>.
>
> This release is primarily to address some build related issues in build 215.
> ?If you use pywin32 to host COM objects (as opposed to simply using COM
> objects), use it to host IIS ISAPI applications, or wish to use the adodbapi
> package on Python 3.x, you should upgrade to build 216. ?The changes in this
> release are:
>
> * If you hosted COM objects or used ISAPI, your object/app would probably
> have failed to load, probably with a message related to msvcr90.dll - this
> has been fixed. ?In the case of COM, it has been fixed by introducing a new
> DLL as a "loader" for COM objects (pythoncomloaderxx.dll) which delegates to
> pythoncomxx.dll, but has an appropriate "manifest".
>
> * ISAPI apps could also crash when using GetServerVariable for an unknown
> variable on Windows 7.
>
> * adodbapi for Python 3.x builds have had syntax errors fixed.
>
> * Pythonwin now prints (ie, to a printer) correctly on Python 3.x and allows
> the background color of the selection to be customized.
>
> * A number of test related changes.
>
> As always, thanks to everyone who contributed (both code and issues) to this
> release!
>
> Get it now via:
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/pywin32/files/pywin32/Build216/

Congrats on the new release.

cheers
James

-- 
-- James Mills
--
-- "Problems are solved by method"

From fuzzyman at gmail.com  Sun Feb 27 21:38:19 2011
From: fuzzyman at gmail.com (Michael Foord)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 20:38:19 +0000
Subject: [python-win32] Possible future direction for PyGUI on Win32
In-Reply-To: <4D696319.8080803@canterbury.ac.nz>
References: <4D696319.8080803@canterbury.ac.nz>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=JSGYvY49hEhu9L5U82i9cpAMq-6U70e9U93KJ@mail.gmail.com>

On 26 February 2011 20:31, Greg Ewing <greg.ewing at canterbury.ac.nz> wrote:

> Until recently I didn't think it was possible to use .NET
> libraries from CPython, but then I came across this:
>
> http://pythonnet.sourceforge.net/
>
> Using this, it looks like it should be possible to create
> a PyGUI implementation based on Windows Forms. This has the
> potential to solve a number of headaches, as it appears
> to be a considerably more capable library than base win32.
>
> The downside is that 2k and XP users may need to install
> a .NET runtime. How would people feel about that?
>
>
Python.NET is currently not maintained.

Michael Foord


> --
> Greg
> _______________________________________________
> python-win32 mailing list
> python-win32 at python.org
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>



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From mc at mclaveau.com  Sun Feb 27 23:56:39 2011
From: mc at mclaveau.com (Michel Claveau)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 23:56:39 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] [ANN] pywin32 build 216 released.
In-Reply-To: <4D6A3826.7020106@skippinet.com.au>
References: <4D6A3826.7020106@skippinet.com.au>
Message-ID: <9D6FE5C2371A4297A8FE81ECE0C95B8A@MCI1330>

Hi!

Thanks for 216.

But, I have the same problem, when I want acces to Python/Pywin32-COM's 
servers. (However, no message on msvcr90)
Below, example of messages.

If I reinstall 214, the problem is solved.


@-salutations
-- 
Michel Claveau




---------------------------
Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library
---------------------------
Runtime Error!

Program: C:\Windows\System32\WScript.exe

R6034

An application has made an attempt to load the C runtime library 
incorrectly.
Please contact the application's support team for more information.
---------------------------
OK
---------------------------


---------------------------
Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library
---------------------------
Runtime Error!

Program: C:\Program Files\AutoIt3\AutoIt3.exe

R6034

An application has made an attempt to load the C runtime library 
incorrectly.
Please contact the application's support team for more information.
---------------------------
OK
---------------------------




From vernondcole at gmail.com  Mon Feb 28 06:01:52 2011
From: vernondcole at gmail.com (Vernon Cole)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 22:01:52 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] Possible future direction for PyGUI on Win32
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=JSGYvY49hEhu9L5U82i9cpAMq-6U70e9U93KJ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4D696319.8080803@canterbury.ac.nz>
	<AANLkTi=JSGYvY49hEhu9L5U82i9cpAMq-6U70e9U93KJ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinDjc51pCap9ax3kv9SX9J6CUpxcJ2ChUhFtr6h@mail.gmail.com>

Hmmm... projects get abandoned for many reasons.

Michael:
  In your professional opinion would it be worthwhile to
clone/fork/resurrect the pythonnet project, or is it a bad idea better left
dead?
--
Vernon

On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Michael Foord <fuzzyman at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 26 February 2011 20:31, Greg Ewing <greg.ewing at canterbury.ac.nz> wrote:
>
>> Until recently I didn't think it was possible to use .NET
>> libraries from CPython, but then I came across this:
>>
>> http://pythonnet.sourceforge.net/
>>
>> Using this, it looks like it should be possible to create
>> a PyGUI implementation based on Windows Forms. This has the
>> potential to solve a number of headaches, as it appears
>> to be a considerably more capable library than base win32.
>>
>> The downside is that 2k and XP users may need to install
>> a .NET runtime. How would people feel about that?
>>
>>
> Python.NET is currently not maintained.
>
> Michael Foord
>
>
>>  --
>> Greg
>> _______________________________________________
>> python-win32 mailing list
>> python-win32 at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> http://www.voidspace.org.uk/
>
> May you do good and not evil
> May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others
>
>
> May you share freely, never taking more than you give.
> -- the sqlite blessing http://www.sqlite.org/different.html
>
>
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From skippy.hammond at gmail.com  Mon Feb 28 07:19:40 2011
From: skippy.hammond at gmail.com (Mark Hammond)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 17:19:40 +1100
Subject: [python-win32] [ANN] pywin32 build 216 released.
In-Reply-To: <9D6FE5C2371A4297A8FE81ECE0C95B8A@MCI1330>
References: <4D6A3826.7020106@skippinet.com.au>
	<9D6FE5C2371A4297A8FE81ECE0C95B8A@MCI1330>
Message-ID: <4D6B3E7C.4080701@gmail.com>

On 28/02/2011 9:56 AM, Michel Claveau wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Thanks for 216.
>
> But, I have the same problem, when I want acces to Python/Pywin32-COM's
> servers. (However, no message on msvcr90)
> Below, example of messages.
>
> If I reinstall 214, the problem is solved.

I meant to mention in my announcement that it will be necessary to 
reregister your COM objects to get the new fixed behaviour - if you 
don't, pythoncomxx.dll will still be directly hosting the objects and 
will have the same problematic behaviour - but if you re-register, the 
objects will all be registered against the new pythoncomloaderxx.dll.

Can you please try that?  (And note that if you then need to roll back 
to build 214, you will want to re-register them again once you reinstall)

Thanks!

Mark

From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Mon Feb 28 10:40:03 2011
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 09:40:03 +0000
Subject: [python-win32] Possible future direction for PyGUI on Win32
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinDjc51pCap9ax3kv9SX9J6CUpxcJ2ChUhFtr6h@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4D696319.8080803@canterbury.ac.nz>	<AANLkTi=JSGYvY49hEhu9L5U82i9cpAMq-6U70e9U93KJ@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinDjc51pCap9ax3kv9SX9J6CUpxcJ2ChUhFtr6h@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4D6B6D73.3080701@timgolden.me.uk>

On 28/02/2011 05:01, Vernon Cole wrote:
> Hmmm... projects get abandoned for many reasons.
>
> Michael:
>    In your professional opinion would it be worthwhile to
> clone/fork/resurrect the pythonnet project, or is it a bad idea better
> left dead?

Well, the last Svn commit was 4 weeks ago, by "barton_c", and Python27
"support" (ie switches") were added 2 months ago. Looks like "Barton_C"
needs to do some advertising. I'll see if I can contact him/her through
sf.

I've just pulled the source code down; I'll see if I can get it to
build against the Python27 repo. (When I get the time...)

FWIW, I have used it successfully, if trivially, to employ SQL-SMO
to script off my database. This (rather than IronPython) because I
have an existing investment in the CPython svn bindings. (In short:
pragmatism beats purity).

TJG

From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Mon Feb 28 10:57:52 2011
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 09:57:52 +0000
Subject: [python-win32] Possible future direction for PyGUI on Win32
In-Reply-To: <4D6B6D73.3080701@timgolden.me.uk>
References: <4D696319.8080803@canterbury.ac.nz>	<AANLkTi=JSGYvY49hEhu9L5U82i9cpAMq-6U70e9U93KJ@mail.gmail.com>	<AANLkTinDjc51pCap9ax3kv9SX9J6CUpxcJ2ChUhFtr6h@mail.gmail.com>
	<4D6B6D73.3080701@timgolden.me.uk>
Message-ID: <4D6B71A0.7000405@timgolden.me.uk>

On 28/02/2011 09:40, Tim Golden wrote:
> On 28/02/2011 05:01, Vernon Cole wrote:
>> Hmmm... projects get abandoned for many reasons.
>>
>> Michael:
>> In your professional opinion would it be worthwhile to
>> clone/fork/resurrect the pythonnet project, or is it a bad idea better
>> left dead?

... and what I meant to add was: Python.NET seems to sit in an awkward
place in the ecosystem. Its niche seems to be: where you want a small
bit of .NET technology (such as SQL-SMO in my case) but don't want to
migrate any win-specific Python code. (ie stuff relying on pywin32)

If you wanted lots of .NET stuff or if you only have pure Python
code you'd probably use IronPython .

TJG

From developers at tefnet.pl  Mon Feb 28 11:22:33 2011
From: developers at tefnet.pl (Tefnet Developers)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:22:33 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Problem with win32print.SetPrinter
Message-ID: <1298888553.2645.29.camel@cacko>

Hi,

I am adding some printers connection as a user with
win32print.AddPrinterConnection().

Afterwards I want to set paper size to A4 (I have no idea why Polish
Windows XP sets it to Letter by default) with this example code:

==================================================================
import win32print
import win32con
import win32gui
import pywintypes

printer = r'\\drukarki\kp01'

handle = win32print.OpenPrinter(printer, {'DesiredAccess':
win32print.PRINTER_ACCESS_USE})

devmodeSize=win32print.DocumentProperties(0, handle, printer, None,
None, 0)
devmode = pywintypes.DEVMODEType(devmodeSize -
pywintypes.DEVMODEType().Size)
win32print.DocumentProperties(0, handle, printer, devmode, devmode,
win32con.DM_IN_BUFFER | win32con.DM_OUT_BUFFER)

print 'FormName before: %s' % devmode.FormName
print 'PaperSize before: %s' % devmode.PaperSize

devmode.FormName = "A4"
devmode.PaperSize = win32con.DMPAPER_A4
devmode.Fields = devmode.Fields | win32con.DM_FORMNAME |
win32con.DM_PAPERSIZE

print 'FormName set: %s' % devmode.FormName
print 'PaperSize set: %s' % devmode.PaperSize

info = win32print.GetPrinter(handle, 9)
info["pDevMode"] = devmode
win32print.SetPrinter(handle, 9, info, 0)

devmodeSize=win32print.DocumentProperties(0, handle, printer, None,
None, 0)
devmode = pywintypes.DEVMODEType(devmodeSize -
pywintypes.DEVMODEType().Size)
win32print.DocumentProperties(0, handle, printer, devmode, devmode,
win32con.DM_IN_BUFFER | win32con.DM_OUT_BUFFER)

print 'FormName after: %s' % devmode.FormName
print 'PaperSize after: %s' % devmode.PaperSize

win32print.ClosePrinter(handle)

win32gui.SendMessageTimeout(win32con.HWND_BROADCAST,
win32con.WM_DEVMODECHANGE, 0, 0, 0, 2000)
==================================================================

The output looks like this:
==================================================================
FormName before: A4
PaperSize before: 1
FormName set: A4
PaperSize set: 9
FormName after: A4
PaperSize after: 1
==================================================================

So, as you can see - FormName changes, but PaperSize does not.
Am I doing something wrong here? I've spent a lot of time trying to
solve it, yet came up with nothing.

Do you have any suggestions?

Thanks,
Filip Zyzniewski
Tefnet


From fuzzyman at gmail.com  Mon Feb 28 13:47:12 2011
From: fuzzyman at gmail.com (Michael Foord)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 12:47:12 +0000
Subject: [python-win32] Possible future direction for PyGUI on Win32
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinDjc51pCap9ax3kv9SX9J6CUpxcJ2ChUhFtr6h@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4D696319.8080803@canterbury.ac.nz>
	<AANLkTi=JSGYvY49hEhu9L5U82i9cpAMq-6U70e9U93KJ@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinDjc51pCap9ax3kv9SX9J6CUpxcJ2ChUhFtr6h@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTiniiZs9RfXBvu1ZcC3-p4G-qNneTaPXkQ9pY8F2@mail.gmail.com>

On 28 February 2011 05:01, Vernon Cole <vernondcole at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hmmm... projects get abandoned for many reasons.
>
> Michael:
>   In your professional opinion would it be worthwhile to
> clone/fork/resurrect the pythonnet project, or is it a bad idea better left
> dead?
>


Python.NET is a great project.

Michael



> --
> Vernon
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Michael Foord <fuzzyman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 26 February 2011 20:31, Greg Ewing <greg.ewing at canterbury.ac.nz>wrote:
>>
>>> Until recently I didn't think it was possible to use .NET
>>> libraries from CPython, but then I came across this:
>>>
>>> http://pythonnet.sourceforge.net/
>>>
>>> Using this, it looks like it should be possible to create
>>> a PyGUI implementation based on Windows Forms. This has the
>>> potential to solve a number of headaches, as it appears
>>> to be a considerably more capable library than base win32.
>>>
>>> The downside is that 2k and XP users may need to install
>>> a .NET runtime. How would people feel about that?
>>>
>>>
>> Python.NET is currently not maintained.
>>
>> Michael Foord
>>
>>
>>>  --
>>> Greg
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> python-win32 mailing list
>>> python-win32 at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> http://www.voidspace.org.uk/
>>
>> May you do good and not evil
>> May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others
>>
>>
>>
>> May you share freely, never taking more than you give.
>> -- the sqlite blessing http://www.sqlite.org/different.html
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> python-win32 mailing list
>> python-win32 at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
>>
>>
>


-- 

http://www.voidspace.org.uk/

May you do good and not evil
May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others
May you share freely, never taking more than you give.
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From mc at mclaveau.com  Mon Feb 28 13:53:08 2011
From: mc at mclaveau.com (Michel Claveau)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 13:53:08 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] [ANN] pywin32 build 216 released.
In-Reply-To: <4D6B3E7C.4080701@gmail.com>
References: <4D6A3826.7020106@skippinet.com.au>
	<9D6FE5C2371A4297A8FE81ECE0C95B8A@MCI1330>
	<4D6B3E7C.4080701@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <59AD9B91E48B42B5B94DA321C122F903@MCI1330>

Hi!

After some tests...
Again the same error:
---------------------------
Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library
---------------------------
Runtime Error!
Program: C:\Windows\System32\WScript.exe
R6034
An application has made an attempt to load the C runtime library 
incorrectly.
Please contact the application's support team for more information.
---------------------------
OK
---------------------------



When error, I look register:
  HKCR\CLSID\{EC501258-201C-449C-BE20-837A316EA382}\InprocServer32
contain the value   pythoncomloader26.dll



I tried several things:

C:\Python26\Lib\site-packages\pywin32_system32

copy  pythoncomloader26.dll et pythoncom*.dll  in  C:\windows\system32

copy  pythoncomloader26.dll et pythoncom*.dll  in  courrent directory

Copy in   C:\windows\system32:
   mfc90.dll
   mfc90u.dll
   mfcm90.dll
   mfcm90u.dll

Restart computer

Re-registered  my COM server

Again & again the error


But...

Reinstall 214 without uninstall 216 =>  test OK  (AND WITHOUT REGISTER AGAIN
my COM server; therefore, with pythoncomloader26.dll in register (I look))

Reinstall 216 over 214, then test immediatly: Error
Reinstall 214 over 216, then test immediatly: OK

If that can help...

In several hours, I will test on a new computer, without python...

@+
-- 
Michel Claveau




From roche.maxime at creativeinfinity.fr  Mon Feb 28 13:22:53 2011
From: roche.maxime at creativeinfinity.fr (Creative iNFiNiTY)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 13:22:53 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] (again) get Window Title encoding
Message-ID: <2917B8BC-F174-4B93-BCFE-5409980E8212@creativeinfinity.fr>

here is some code to get the window title:

            hwnd = win32gui.GetForegroundWindow()
            # we want the desktop window
            objid = pyAA.Constants.OBJID_WINDOW
            # get the object
            ao = pyAA.AccessibleObjectFromWindow(hwnd, objid)
            pr= ao.GetProcessAndThreadID()
            processes = win32process.EnumProcesses()
            for pid in processes:
                    if pid in pr:
                        handle = win32api.OpenProcess(win32con.PROCESS_ALL_ACCESS,False, pid)
                        processactif=win32process.GetModuleFileNameEx(handle, 0)

	    WindowTitle=ao.Name
                 
another code:
	import win32gui
	w=win32gui
	w.GetWindowText (w.GetForegroundWindow())


and i need to get the encoding of the title for internalisation purpose,
does anyone know how to get it ?
the automatic charset recognition in python ," chardet" don't work for every charset,
if i can take it by the process that will be great.
Thanks

Roche Maxime
Creative iNFiNiTY
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From lueck at ipk-gatersleben.de  Mon Feb 28 15:18:46 2011
From: lueck at ipk-gatersleben.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefanie_L=FCck?=)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 15:18:46 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Python Excel - 2 workbooks affect each other
Message-ID: <000301cbd752$696751a0$1022a8c0@ipkgatersleben.de>

Hello!

 

I have a strange excel behaviour if 2 workbooks are open. I?m trying to
create an excel workbook with a bar chart from some data which comes from my
wxPython program. If I paste the data into my program from any source except
another excel file, everything works as expected. But if I copy the values
from a source excel workbook into my program and then try to create a new
excel workbook with a chart, the new workbook takes the data of the chart
from the source workbook and not from the sheet I specified. This happens
only if the data of the source workbook are still selected from the copy
before, if I click into another cell, my new created workbook will use the
data of its sheet which I specified.

 

Does anybody know what this could be? In my code I clearly specify to use
the data of my new created worksheet. The name of the source workbook sheet
is completely different. Looks like excel ignore it and use the currently
selected data of any workbook. Is there a way to specify the Workbook and
Worksheet, which I want to use? 

 

Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks,

Stefanie

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From vernondcole at gmail.com  Mon Feb 28 17:33:28 2011
From: vernondcole at gmail.com (Vernon Cole)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 09:33:28 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] Possible future direction for PyGUI on Win32
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimF9JazSjLDYnwYuObdBgKJSyvArD81tcAp6Ae+@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4D696319.8080803@canterbury.ac.nz>
	<AANLkTi=JSGYvY49hEhu9L5U82i9cpAMq-6U70e9U93KJ@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinDjc51pCap9ax3kv9SX9J6CUpxcJ2ChUhFtr6h@mail.gmail.com>
	<4D6B6D73.3080701@timgolden.me.uk>
	<4D6B71A0.7000405@timgolden.me.uk>
	<AANLkTimF9JazSjLDYnwYuObdBgKJSyvArD81tcAp6Ae+@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimqZ2+3YVbiL9GvpRFvO6jrJJ846XOUc_EVG=h5@mail.gmail.com>

So with pythoncom on one hand and pywin32 on ironclad on the other you could
go either way on either compiler? Sounds pretty neat.
  Is pythoncom python3 ready? (I haven't looked at source yet.

Vernon Cole
(sent from my 'droid phone)

On Feb 28, 2011 2:58 AM, "Tim Golden" <mail at timgolden.me.uk> wrote:

On 28/02/2011 09:40, Tim Golden wrote:
>
> On 28/02/2011 05:01, Vernon Cole wrote:
>>
>> Hmmm... pro...
... and what I meant to add was: Python.NET seems to sit in an awkward
place in the ecosystem. Its niche seems to be: where you want a small
bit of .NET technology (such as SQL-SMO in my case) but don't want to
migrate any win-specific Python code. (ie stuff relying on pywin32)

If you wanted lots of .NET stuff or if you only have pure Python
code you'd probably use IronPython .

TJG


_______________________________________________
python-win32 mailing list
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From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Mon Feb 28 19:03:08 2011
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:03:08 +0000
Subject: [python-win32] Possible future direction for PyGUI on Win32
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimqZ2+3YVbiL9GvpRFvO6jrJJ846XOUc_EVG=h5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4D696319.8080803@canterbury.ac.nz>	<AANLkTi=JSGYvY49hEhu9L5U82i9cpAMq-6U70e9U93KJ@mail.gmail.com>	<AANLkTinDjc51pCap9ax3kv9SX9J6CUpxcJ2ChUhFtr6h@mail.gmail.com>	<4D6B6D73.3080701@timgolden.me.uk>	<4D6B71A0.7000405@timgolden.me.uk>	<AANLkTimF9JazSjLDYnwYuObdBgKJSyvArD81tcAp6Ae+@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimqZ2+3YVbiL9GvpRFvO6jrJJ846XOUc_EVG=h5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4D6BE35C.6060600@timgolden.me.uk>

On 28/02/2011 4:33 PM, Vernon Cole wrote:
> So with pythoncom on one hand and pywin32 on ironclad on the other you could
> go either way on either compiler? Sounds pretty neat.
>    Is pythoncom python3 ready? (I haven't looked at source yet.

Certainly is. I've had my wmi module running against
it for a while now.

TJG

From timr at probo.com  Mon Feb 28 19:56:28 2011
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 10:56:28 -0800
Subject: [python-win32] Possible future direction for PyGUI on Win32
In-Reply-To: <4D696319.8080803@canterbury.ac.nz>
References: <4D696319.8080803@canterbury.ac.nz>
Message-ID: <4D6BEFDC.2080508@probo.com>

Greg Ewing wrote:
> The downside is that 2k and XP users may need to install
> a .NET runtime. How would people feel about that?

Most XP users have long ago had 2.0, 3.0, and 3.5 runtimes pushed to
their systems through service packs and updates.  For 2000, the run-time
installation is not very painful.

-- 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.


From timr at probo.com  Mon Feb 28 20:06:47 2011
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:06:47 -0800
Subject: [python-win32] Possible future direction for PyGUI on Win32
In-Reply-To: <20110227014108.B490.B1C76292@gmail.com>
References: <96FB0913B4C9465A8B1AB3EF8359AF63@teddy>	<D85EA30224A3CC40ACA1E2FE6D4D6914351735@cantwe3.canterbury.ac.nz>
	<20110227014108.B490.B1C76292@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4D6BF247.8020201@probo.com>

Klonuo wrote:
>> No, if I go this way, I would probably stop maintaining
>> the current implementation. I don't want to have to
>> support two backends on Windows, and some of the things
>> I intend to do with Windows Forms would be impractical
>> to do using the raw Win32 API.
> With all due respect to maintainers of .NET connectors, but this kind of thinking is one of the main reasons why I'm always avoiding any kind of .NET application - in majority they are suboptimal on several scales and give "developers" freedom to do things they shouldn't, by abusing precious resources.

That depends entirely on what resources you value.  It is much quicker
to develop .NET applications than it is to write straight to the API, in
part because the CLR support is so vast.  My time is WAY more valuable
than my computer's time.  I paid for 4GB of memory in my computer. 
Memory that is not being used is simply being wasted.

I still do most of my programming in C++ because I like having control,
but there is nothing wrong with .NET.

-- 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.


From mhammond at skippinet.com.au  Mon Feb 28 22:52:17 2011
From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond)
Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 08:52:17 +1100
Subject: [python-win32] [ANN] pywin32 build 216 released.
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On 28/02/2011 11:53 PM, Michel Claveau wrote:
> Hi!
>
> After some tests...
> Again the same error:
> ---------------------------
> Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library
> ---------------------------
> Runtime Error!
> Program: C:\Windows\System32\WScript.exe
> R6034
> An application has made an attempt to load the C runtime library
> incorrectly.
> Please contact the application's support team for more information.
> ---------------------------
> OK
> ---------------------------

Could you also please try "wscript.exe win32com\test\testInterp.vbs" - 
this is a trivial vbscript test that loads the Python.Interpreter COM 
object and attempts to use it.  This works fine for me on every 
configuration I have tried including a very clean Windows 7 VM.

If that works for you, then we have a different problem related to your 
COM objects.  If that doesn't work for you, then I will be quite confused :)

Cheers,

Mark

From skippy.hammond at gmail.com  Mon Feb 28 22:57:56 2011
From: skippy.hammond at gmail.com (Mark Hammond)
Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 08:57:56 +1100
Subject: [python-win32] (again) get Window Title encoding
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You might find the 'mbcs' encoding is what you are after?

Cheers,

Mark

On 28/02/2011 11:22 PM, Creative iNFiNiTY wrote:
> here is some code to get the window title:
>
> hwnd = win32gui.GetForegroundWindow()
> # we want the desktop window
> objid = pyAA.Constants.OBJID_WINDOW
> # get the object
> ao = pyAA.AccessibleObjectFromWindow(hwnd, objid)
> pr= ao.GetProcessAndThreadID()
> processes = win32process.EnumProcesses()
> for pid in processes:
> if pid in pr:
> handle = win32api.OpenProcess(win32con.PROCESS_ALL_ACCESS,False, pid)
> processactif=win32process.GetModuleFileNameEx(handle, 0)
>
> WindowTitle=ao.Name
> another code:
> importwin32gui
> w=win32gui
> w.GetWindowText (w.GetForegroundWindow())
>
> *
> *
> and i need to get the encoding of the title for internalisation purpose,
> does anyone know how to get it ?
> the automatic charset recognition in python ," chardet" don't work for
> every charset,
> if i can take it by the process that will be great.
> Thanks
>
> Roche Maxime
> Creative iNFiNiTY
>
>
>
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From greg.ewing at canterbury.ac.nz  Mon Feb 28 23:14:36 2011
From: greg.ewing at canterbury.ac.nz (Greg Ewing)
Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 11:14:36 +1300
Subject: [python-win32] Possible future direction for PyGUI on Win32
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Octavian Rasnita wrote:
> From: "Greg Ewing" <greg.ewing at canterbury.ac.nz>
> 
>> No, if I go this way, I would probably stop maintaining
>> the current implementation.
> 
> Oh, in that case imho I think this is a very bad idea.

Can you elaborate on exactly what is bad about it, and
suggest an alternative?

The standard Windows GUI API is severely crippled compared
to what is available natively in Cocoa and Gtk. The only
alternatives I see at the moment are:

* Allow Windows to hold back the development of PyGUI on
all the other platforms.

* Implement the missing functionality on Windows in pure
Python -- a lot of work, and probably not practical for
something complex such as a rich text or HTML widget.

* Rely on a third party library to supply the missing
functionality on Windows.

-- 
Greg

From greg.ewing at canterbury.ac.nz  Mon Feb 28 23:33:37 2011
From: greg.ewing at canterbury.ac.nz (Greg Ewing)
Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 11:33:37 +1300
Subject: [python-win32] Possible future direction for PyGUI on Win32
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Tim Golden wrote:
> Python.NET seems to sit in an awkward
> place in the ecosystem. Its niche seems to be: where you want a small
> bit of .NET technology (such as SQL-SMO in my case) but don't want to
> migrate any win-specific Python code. (ie stuff relying on pywin32)

Or, as in my case, you are developing a library and
want to make use of some .NET technology, but don't
want to force all the users of your library to use
a non-standard Python implementation.

-- 
Greg