From chris at simplistix.co.uk  Thu Sep  1 17:49:44 2016
From: chris at simplistix.co.uk (Chris Withers)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 22:49:44 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] job postings to this list
Message-ID: <c7f0a28b-7ecd-f611-1dab-58d8a80b6ddf@simplistix.co.uk>

Hi All,

What's the current state of play with job ads and this list?

Last I knew, they weren't allowed. Seems to be the majority of list 
content now...

Chris


From hansel at interpretthis.org  Thu Sep  1 18:06:20 2016
From: hansel at interpretthis.org (Hansel Dunlop)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 23:06:20 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] job postings to this list
In-Reply-To: <c7f0a28b-7ecd-f611-1dab-58d8a80b6ddf@simplistix.co.uk>
References: <c7f0a28b-7ecd-f611-1dab-58d8a80b6ddf@simplistix.co.uk>
Message-ID: <CAM6oqK81AzP4BAZTCF3Y=Jzi2U5aKLZwQhMgXuKZFAErssyNJQ@mail.gmail.com>

The rule that I believe we arrived at, through some wonderfully nebulous
consensus, was that occasional job postings from community members that
could name the ACTUAL company were okay.

I mean I would have never found my first Python job without those posts
being allowed... (thanks PythonAnywhere)

- Hansel

On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 10:49 PM, Chris Withers <chris at simplistix.co.uk>
wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> What's the current state of play with job ads and this list?
>
> Last I knew, they weren't allowed. Seems to be the majority of list
> content now...
>
> Chris
>
> _______________________________________________
> python-uk mailing list
> python-uk at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
>



-- 

                                Hansel
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From andy at reportlab.com  Thu Sep  1 18:08:53 2016
From: andy at reportlab.com (Andy Robinson)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 23:08:53 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] job postings to this list
In-Reply-To: <c7f0a28b-7ecd-f611-1dab-58d8a80b6ddf@simplistix.co.uk>
References: <c7f0a28b-7ecd-f611-1dab-58d8a80b6ddf@simplistix.co.uk>
Message-ID: <CABjtAptYfvo=MppMGDu0Ock2HGLBJjV+VYjBjCnj13jj8LRSRg@mail.gmail.com>

On 1 September 2016 at 22:49, Chris Withers <chris at simplistix.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> What's the current state of play with job ads and this list?
>
> Last I knew, they weren't allowed. Seems to be the majority of list content
> now...
Hi Chris,

A few years ago we discussed it and most people felt they were
harmless, or even interesting, as long as it wasn't CV-trolling by
agencies.

There's not a lot one might want to discuss on a location-specific
list, apart from jobs and meetups

- Andy

From ntoll at ntoll.org  Fri Sep  2 02:09:58 2016
From: ntoll at ntoll.org (Nicholas H.Tollervey)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 07:09:58 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] job postings to this list
In-Reply-To: <c7f0a28b-7ecd-f611-1dab-58d8a80b6ddf@simplistix.co.uk>
References: <c7f0a28b-7ecd-f611-1dab-58d8a80b6ddf@simplistix.co.uk>
Message-ID: <ff98d1a4-4a73-fcc6-fe5e-aa2d4b96833b@ntoll.org>

On 01/09/16 22:49, Chris Withers wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> What's the current state of play with job ads and this list?
> 
> Last I knew, they weren't allowed. Seems to be the majority of list
> content now...
> 
> Chris
> 
> _______________________________________________
> python-uk mailing list
> python-uk at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk

As people have mentioned, the consensus that I've seen is that posting a
job ad is fine so long as it's not recruiter spam.

Of course, recruiters advertising for a specific job with an appropriate
level of detail about the job in question (location, salary, expectation
of role, desired skills and experience, information about what the
company does) is also fine.

What is recruiter spam? How about, "exciting opportunity for Python
ninja in green-field project at one of London's most exciting employers"
is, IMHO, NOT welcome. It's just meaningless noise and probably
recruitment phishing.

Hope this helps,

N.

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From mauve at mauveweb.co.uk  Fri Sep  2 04:34:40 2016
From: mauve at mauveweb.co.uk (Daniel Pope)
Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2016 08:34:40 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] job postings to this list
In-Reply-To: <ff98d1a4-4a73-fcc6-fe5e-aa2d4b96833b@ntoll.org>
References: <c7f0a28b-7ecd-f611-1dab-58d8a80b6ddf@simplistix.co.uk>
 <ff98d1a4-4a73-fcc6-fe5e-aa2d4b96833b@ntoll.org>
Message-ID: <CAGAAuhMyhA+nuvjqe0avbMw5o+1JnmNz9hBiwbisGQSt9W2ETA@mail.gmail.com>

Just a reminder that the python.org jobs board and pythonjobs.github.io are
available if you want to post job opportunities.

On Fri, 2 Sep 2016 09:10 Nicholas H.Tollervey, <ntoll at ntoll.org> wrote:

> On 01/09/16 22:49, Chris Withers wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > What's the current state of play with job ads and this list?
> >
> > Last I knew, they weren't allowed. Seems to be the majority of list
> > content now...
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > python-uk mailing list
> > python-uk at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
>
> As people have mentioned, the consensus that I've seen is that posting a
> job ad is fine so long as it's not recruiter spam.
>
> Of course, recruiters advertising for a specific job with an appropriate
> level of detail about the job in question (location, salary, expectation
> of role, desired skills and experience, information about what the
> company does) is also fine.
>
> What is recruiter spam? How about, "exciting opportunity for Python
> ninja in green-field project at one of London's most exciting employers"
> is, IMHO, NOT welcome. It's just meaningless noise and probably
> recruitment phishing.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> N.
>
> _______________________________________________
> python-uk mailing list
> python-uk at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
>
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From tom at viner.tv  Fri Sep  2 04:48:36 2016
From: tom at viner.tv (Tom Viner)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 09:48:36 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] job postings to this list
In-Reply-To: <ff98d1a4-4a73-fcc6-fe5e-aa2d4b96833b@ntoll.org>
References: <c7f0a28b-7ecd-f611-1dab-58d8a80b6ddf@simplistix.co.uk>
 <ff98d1a4-4a73-fcc6-fe5e-aa2d4b96833b@ntoll.org>
Message-ID: <CANBSuyGc0Z3C-FWc=-B-AvVyqmHG13tBTUrcOm+aSN7QvR2iJw@mail.gmail.com>

Potential candidates as well as recruiters are reminded that hitting reply
will result in a mail aimed back to the list.

You must then manually edit the To: field.

Furthermore: Outlook's "recall this message" will not work, rather it will
send a further email to the list, each and every time you click it.
Although perhaps third time's a charm?
<https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-uk/2013-January/002760.html>

You have been warned!


On 2 September 2016 at 07:09, Nicholas H.Tollervey <ntoll at ntoll.org> wrote:

> On 01/09/16 22:49, Chris Withers wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > What's the current state of play with job ads and this list?
> >
> > Last I knew, they weren't allowed. Seems to be the majority of list
> > content now...
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > python-uk mailing list
> > python-uk at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
>
> As people have mentioned, the consensus that I've seen is that posting a
> job ad is fine so long as it's not recruiter spam.
>
> Of course, recruiters advertising for a specific job with an appropriate
> level of detail about the job in question (location, salary, expectation
> of role, desired skills and experience, information about what the
> company does) is also fine.
>
> What is recruiter spam? How about, "exciting opportunity for Python
> ninja in green-field project at one of London's most exciting employers"
> is, IMHO, NOT welcome. It's just meaningless noise and probably
> recruitment phishing.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> N.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> python-uk mailing list
> python-uk at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
>
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From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Fri Sep  2 05:01:25 2016
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 10:01:25 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] job postings to this list
In-Reply-To: <CANBSuyGc0Z3C-FWc=-B-AvVyqmHG13tBTUrcOm+aSN7QvR2iJw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c7f0a28b-7ecd-f611-1dab-58d8a80b6ddf@simplistix.co.uk>
 <ff98d1a4-4a73-fcc6-fe5e-aa2d4b96833b@ntoll.org>
 <CANBSuyGc0Z3C-FWc=-B-AvVyqmHG13tBTUrcOm+aSN7QvR2iJw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3e0e9575-03cf-b6ab-a24a-5f1f90adbca9@timgolden.me.uk>

On 02/09/2016 09:48, Tom Viner wrote:
> Potential candidates as well as recruiters are reminded that hitting
> reply will result in a mail aimed back to the list.
> 
> You must then manually edit the To: field.
> 
> Furthermore: Outlook's "recall this message" will not work, rather it
> will send a further email to the list, each and every time you click it.

... causing much amusement to all concerned except the hapless OP who's
backpedalling as much as possible! (Sorry, Tom!)

TJG

From chris at simplistix.co.uk  Fri Sep  2 05:07:58 2016
From: chris at simplistix.co.uk (Chris Withers)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 10:07:58 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] job postings to this list
In-Reply-To: <CAGAAuhMyhA+nuvjqe0avbMw5o+1JnmNz9hBiwbisGQSt9W2ETA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c7f0a28b-7ecd-f611-1dab-58d8a80b6ddf@simplistix.co.uk>
 <ff98d1a4-4a73-fcc6-fe5e-aa2d4b96833b@ntoll.org>
 <CAGAAuhMyhA+nuvjqe0avbMw5o+1JnmNz9hBiwbisGQSt9W2ETA@mail.gmail.com>
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From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Fri Sep  2 05:26:08 2016
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 10:26:08 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] job postings to this list
In-Reply-To: <6daa4570-b5dd-0773-6d9e-165a271504b0@simplistix.co.uk>
References: <c7f0a28b-7ecd-f611-1dab-58d8a80b6ddf@simplistix.co.uk>
 <ff98d1a4-4a73-fcc6-fe5e-aa2d4b96833b@ntoll.org>
 <CAGAAuhMyhA+nuvjqe0avbMw5o+1JnmNz9hBiwbisGQSt9W2ETA@mail.gmail.com>
 <6daa4570-b5dd-0773-6d9e-165a271504b0@simplistix.co.uk>
Message-ID: <a0bcaf4d-1bd3-6b6f-fca1-54797a756408@timgolden.me.uk>

<Shrug> We have this discussion every 18 months or so. As others have
said, focused and relevant job ads have been acceptable on this list.
It's even in the list description:

(from https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk)

"to help UK Python users to form a community, arrange events, advertise
help or jobs wanted or sought and generally chat."

I understand that some people don't like jobs on lists, but on this list
they're considered ok.

TJG

On 02/09/2016 10:07, Chris Withers wrote:
> Right, and that's where I'd prefer to see jobs, rather than on a mailing
> list...
> 
> 
> On 02/09/2016 09:34, Daniel Pope wrote:
>>
>> Just a reminder that the python.org <http://python.org> jobs board and
>> pythonjobs.github.io <http://pythonjobs.github.io> are available if
>> you want to post job opportunities.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 2 Sep 2016 09:10 Nicholas H.Tollervey, <ntoll at ntoll.org
>> <mailto:ntoll at ntoll.org>> wrote:
>>
>>     On 01/09/16 22:49, Chris Withers wrote:
>>     > Hi All,
>>     >
>>     > What's the current state of play with job ads and this list?
>>     >
>>     > Last I knew, they weren't allowed. Seems to be the majority of list
>>     > content now...
>>     >
>>     > Chris
>>     >
>>     > _______________________________________________
>>     > python-uk mailing list
>>     > python-uk at python.org <mailto:python-uk at python.org>
>>     > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
>>
>>     As people have mentioned, the consensus that I've seen is that
>>     posting a
>>     job ad is fine so long as it's not recruiter spam.
>>
>>     Of course, recruiters advertising for a specific job with an
>>     appropriate
>>     level of detail about the job in question (location, salary,
>>     expectation
>>     of role, desired skills and experience, information about what the
>>     company does) is also fine.
>>
>>     What is recruiter spam? How about, "exciting opportunity for Python
>>     ninja in green-field project at one of London's most exciting
>>     employers"
>>     is, IMHO, NOT welcome. It's just meaningless noise and probably
>>     recruitment phishing.
>>
>>     Hope this helps,
>>
>>     N.
>>
>>     _______________________________________________
>>     python-uk mailing list
>>     python-uk at python.org <mailto:python-uk at python.org>
>>     https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> python-uk mailing list
>> python-uk at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> python-uk mailing list
> python-uk at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
> 


From nathan.jeffrey at gmail.com  Fri Sep  2 05:28:23 2016
From: nathan.jeffrey at gmail.com (Nathan Jeffrey)
Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2016 09:28:23 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] job postings to this list
In-Reply-To: <a0bcaf4d-1bd3-6b6f-fca1-54797a756408@timgolden.me.uk>
References: <c7f0a28b-7ecd-f611-1dab-58d8a80b6ddf@simplistix.co.uk>
 <ff98d1a4-4a73-fcc6-fe5e-aa2d4b96833b@ntoll.org>
 <CAGAAuhMyhA+nuvjqe0avbMw5o+1JnmNz9hBiwbisGQSt9W2ETA@mail.gmail.com>
 <6daa4570-b5dd-0773-6d9e-165a271504b0@simplistix.co.uk>
 <a0bcaf4d-1bd3-6b6f-fca1-54797a756408@timgolden.me.uk>
Message-ID: <CANmvzPiYwY+g95dH8nx5xugxBKZf2zsiy505OYv0-gKxSkoHVQ@mail.gmail.com>

I guess we can just revisit if it ever gets too spammy. Unlike Brexit, we
can change our minds later without consequence ?

- N

On Fri, 2 Sep 2016, 10:26 Tim Golden, <mail at timgolden.me.uk> wrote:

> <Shrug> We have this discussion every 18 months or so. As others have
> said, focused and relevant job ads have been acceptable on this list.
> It's even in the list description:
>
> (from https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk)
>
> "to help UK Python users to form a community, arrange events, advertise
> help or jobs wanted or sought and generally chat."
>
> I understand that some people don't like jobs on lists, but on this list
> they're considered ok.
>
> TJG
>
> On 02/09/2016 10:07, Chris Withers wrote:
> > Right, and that's where I'd prefer to see jobs, rather than on a mailing
> > list...
> >
> >
> > On 02/09/2016 09:34, Daniel Pope wrote:
> >>
> >> Just a reminder that the python.org <http://python.org> jobs board and
> >> pythonjobs.github.io <http://pythonjobs.github.io> are available if
> >> you want to post job opportunities.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, 2 Sep 2016 09:10 Nicholas H.Tollervey, <ntoll at ntoll.org
> >> <mailto:ntoll at ntoll.org>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     On 01/09/16 22:49, Chris Withers wrote:
> >>     > Hi All,
> >>     >
> >>     > What's the current state of play with job ads and this list?
> >>     >
> >>     > Last I knew, they weren't allowed. Seems to be the majority of
> list
> >>     > content now...
> >>     >
> >>     > Chris
> >>     >
> >>     > _______________________________________________
> >>     > python-uk mailing list
> >>     > python-uk at python.org <mailto:python-uk at python.org>
> >>     > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
> >>
> >>     As people have mentioned, the consensus that I've seen is that
> >>     posting a
> >>     job ad is fine so long as it's not recruiter spam.
> >>
> >>     Of course, recruiters advertising for a specific job with an
> >>     appropriate
> >>     level of detail about the job in question (location, salary,
> >>     expectation
> >>     of role, desired skills and experience, information about what the
> >>     company does) is also fine.
> >>
> >>     What is recruiter spam? How about, "exciting opportunity for Python
> >>     ninja in green-field project at one of London's most exciting
> >>     employers"
> >>     is, IMHO, NOT welcome. It's just meaningless noise and probably
> >>     recruitment phishing.
> >>
> >>     Hope this helps,
> >>
> >>     N.
> >>
> >>     _______________________________________________
> >>     python-uk mailing list
> >>     python-uk at python.org <mailto:python-uk at python.org>
> >>     https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> python-uk mailing list
> >> python-uk at python.org
> >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > python-uk mailing list
> > python-uk at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> python-uk mailing list
> python-uk at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
>
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From stephen at thorne.id.au  Fri Sep  2 06:44:27 2016
From: stephen at thorne.id.au (Stephen Thorne)
Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2016 10:44:27 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] job postings to this list
In-Reply-To: <CANBSuyGc0Z3C-FWc=-B-AvVyqmHG13tBTUrcOm+aSN7QvR2iJw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c7f0a28b-7ecd-f611-1dab-58d8a80b6ddf@simplistix.co.uk>
 <ff98d1a4-4a73-fcc6-fe5e-aa2d4b96833b@ntoll.org>
 <CANBSuyGc0Z3C-FWc=-B-AvVyqmHG13tBTUrcOm+aSN7QvR2iJw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFPU7=upVR8W1HZgyCAXQzgN2VqwrEdbFNeqtUibDqJz029diQ@mail.gmail.com>

I've not only accidentally done this, but ended up working for that
employer for 5 years! (not this list)

On Fri, 2 Sep 2016 at 09:49 Tom Viner <tom at viner.tv> wrote:

> Potential candidates as well as recruiters are reminded that hitting reply
> will result in a mail aimed back to the list.
>
> You must then manually edit the To: field.
>
> Furthermore: Outlook's "recall this message" will not work, rather it will
> send a further email to the list, each and every time you click it.
> Although perhaps third time's a charm?
> <https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-uk/2013-January/002760.html>
>
> You have been warned!
>
>
> On 2 September 2016 at 07:09, Nicholas H.Tollervey <ntoll at ntoll.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On 01/09/16 22:49, Chris Withers wrote:
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > What's the current state of play with job ads and this list?
>> >
>> > Last I knew, they weren't allowed. Seems to be the majority of list
>> > content now...
>> >
>> > Chris
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > python-uk mailing list
>> > python-uk at python.org
>> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
>>
>> As people have mentioned, the consensus that I've seen is that posting a
>> job ad is fine so long as it's not recruiter spam.
>>
>> Of course, recruiters advertising for a specific job with an appropriate
>> level of detail about the job in question (location, salary, expectation
>> of role, desired skills and experience, information about what the
>> company does) is also fine.
>>
>> What is recruiter spam? How about, "exciting opportunity for Python
>> ninja in green-field project at one of London's most exciting employers"
>> is, IMHO, NOT welcome. It's just meaningless noise and probably
>> recruitment phishing.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>> N.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> python-uk mailing list
>> python-uk at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> python-uk mailing list
> python-uk at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
>
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From m at funkyhat.org  Fri Sep  2 06:53:04 2016
From: m at funkyhat.org (Matt Wheeler)
Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2016 10:53:04 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] London Python Code Dojo Sep 2016
Message-ID: <CAG93HwFGyJr2h1Q1FNTCFo-0uP-2wOU52gKjkN7wKYOO_-CY3g@mail.gmail.com>

Tickets are now available for September's un-cancelled London Python Code
Dojo:

A new host, Yoyo Wallet, has stepped up so we are now able to run a dojo
this month after all. Full details at the link below:

*http://london-python-code-dojo-season-8-episode-1.eventbrite.co.uk
<http://london-python-code-dojo-season-8-episode-1.eventbrite.co.uk>*

If you have a lightning talk you'd like to give to start things off, please
let us know.


Matt W
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From m at funkyhat.org  Fri Sep  2 06:54:36 2016
From: m at funkyhat.org (Matt Wheeler)
Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2016 10:54:36 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] No London Dojo in September
In-Reply-To: <54357267-ca90-8cf6-5bb4-c0b57ed11e1c@timgolden.me.uk>
References: <54357267-ca90-8cf6-5bb4-c0b57ed11e1c@timgolden.me.uk>
Message-ID: <CAG93HwF1mY71OV1g4eopmE5jzhAO0YxbcqYdXiUavVtQcL4QVQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 at 13:20 Tim Golden <mail at timgolden.me.uk> wrote:

> You probably guessed by virtue of the radio silence, but we regret that
> we'll not be running a London Python Dojo in September. It's basically
> down to people being too busy and our not finding a venue.
>

Just a quick note that the September dojo is no longer cancelled! It will
now be held on the 8th, next Thursday.

Event link:
http://london-python-code-dojo-season-8-episode-1.eventbrite.co.uk
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From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Fri Sep  2 06:57:10 2016
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 11:57:10 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] No London Dojo in September
In-Reply-To: <CAG93HwF1mY71OV1g4eopmE5jzhAO0YxbcqYdXiUavVtQcL4QVQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On 02/09/2016 11:54, Matt Wheeler wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 at 13:20 Tim Golden <mail at timgolden.me.uk
> <mailto:mail at timgolden.me.uk>> wrote:
> 
>     You probably guessed by virtue of the radio silence, but we regret that
>     we'll not be running a London Python Dojo in September. It's basically
>     down to people being too busy and our not finding a venue.
> 
> 
> Just a quick note that the September dojo is no longer cancelled! It
> will now be held on the 8th, next Thursday.
> 
> Event link:
> http://london-python-code-dojo-season-8-episode-1.eventbrite.co.uk 

And thanks to YoYoWallet for stepping up to host and Matt for stepping
up to run it.

TJG


From walker_s at hotmail.co.uk  Fri Sep  2 11:09:56 2016
From: walker_s at hotmail.co.uk (S Walker)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 15:09:56 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] job postings to this list
In-Reply-To: <CAFPU7=upVR8W1HZgyCAXQzgN2VqwrEdbFNeqtUibDqJz029diQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c7f0a28b-7ecd-f611-1dab-58d8a80b6ddf@simplistix.co.uk>
 <ff98d1a4-4a73-fcc6-fe5e-aa2d4b96833b@ntoll.org>
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And once again the amount of posts in a discussion about whether or not there are too many job postings significantly exceeds the amount of job postings!

S

On 02/09/16 11:44, Stephen Thorne wrote:
I've not only accidentally done this, but ended up working for that employer for 5 years! (not this list)

On Fri, 2 Sep 2016 at 09:49 Tom Viner <<mailto:tom at viner.tv>tom at viner.tv<mailto:tom at viner.tv>> wrote:
Potential candidates as well as recruiters are reminded that hitting reply will result in a mail aimed back to the list.

You must then manually edit the To: field.

Furthermore: Outlook's "recall this message" will not work, rather it will send a further email to the list, each and every time you click it. Although perhaps third time's a charm?<https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-uk/2013-January/002760.html>

You have been warned!


On 2 September 2016 at 07:09, Nicholas H.Tollervey <<mailto:ntoll at ntoll.org>ntoll at ntoll.org<mailto:ntoll at ntoll.org>> wrote:
On 01/09/16 22:49, Chris Withers wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> What's the current state of play with job ads and this list?
>
> Last I knew, they weren't allowed. Seems to be the majority of list
> content now...
>
> Chris
>
> _______________________________________________
> python-uk mailing list
> python-uk at python.org<mailto:python-uk at python.org>
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk

As people have mentioned, the consensus that I've seen is that posting a
job ad is fine so long as it's not recruiter spam.

Of course, recruiters advertising for a specific job with an appropriate
level of detail about the job in question (location, salary, expectation
of role, desired skills and experience, information about what the
company does) is also fine.

What is recruiter spam? How about, "exciting opportunity for Python
ninja in green-field project at one of London's most exciting employers"
is, IMHO, NOT welcome. It's just meaningless noise and probably
recruitment phishing.

Hope this helps,

N.


_______________________________________________
python-uk mailing list
python-uk at python.org<mailto:python-uk at python.org>
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk


_______________________________________________
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python-uk at python.org<mailto:python-uk at python.org>
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk



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From: ntoll at ntoll.org (Nicholas H.Tollervey)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 16:13:11 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] job postings to this list
In-Reply-To: <DB5PR06MB094905F232023F5F0A52118EB8E50@DB5PR06MB0949.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <c7f0a28b-7ecd-f611-1dab-58d8a80b6ddf@simplistix.co.uk>
 <ff98d1a4-4a73-fcc6-fe5e-aa2d4b96833b@ntoll.org>
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bike_shed = True

;-)


On 02/09/16 16:09, S Walker wrote:
> And once again the amount of posts in a discussion about whether or not
> there are too many job postings significantly exceeds the amount of job
> postings!
> 
> S
> 
> On 02/09/16 11:44, Stephen Thorne wrote:
>> I've not only accidentally done this, but ended up working for that
>> employer for 5 years! (not this list)
>>
>> On Fri, 2 Sep 2016 at 09:49 Tom Viner
>> <<mailto:tom at viner.tv>tom at viner.tv> wrote:
>>
>>     Potential candidates as well as recruiters are reminded that
>>     hitting reply will result in a mail aimed back to the list.
>>
>>     You must then manually edit the To: field.
>>
>>     Furthermore: Outlook's "recall this message" will not work, rather
>>     it will send a further email to the list, each and every time you
>>     click it. Although perhaps third time's a charm?
>>     <https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-uk/2013-January/002760.html>
>>
>>     You have been warned!
>>
>>
>>     On 2 September 2016 at 07:09, Nicholas H.Tollervey
>>     <<mailto:ntoll at ntoll.org>ntoll at ntoll.org> wrote:
>>
>>         On 01/09/16 22:49, Chris Withers wrote:
>>         > Hi All,
>>         >
>>         > What's the current state of play with job ads and this list?
>>         >
>>         > Last I knew, they weren't allowed. Seems to be the majority
>>         of list
>>         > content now...
>>         >
>>         > Chris
>>         >
>>         > _______________________________________________
>>         > python-uk mailing list
>>         > python-uk at python.org <mailto:python-uk at python.org>
>>         > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
>>
>>         As people have mentioned, the consensus that I've seen is that
>>         posting a
>>         job ad is fine so long as it's not recruiter spam.
>>
>>         Of course, recruiters advertising for a specific job with an
>>         appropriate
>>         level of detail about the job in question (location, salary,
>>         expectation
>>         of role, desired skills and experience, information about what the
>>         company does) is also fine.
>>
>>         What is recruiter spam? How about, "exciting opportunity for
>>         Python
>>         ninja in green-field project at one of London's most exciting
>>         employers"
>>         is, IMHO, NOT welcome. It's just meaningless noise and probably
>>         recruitment phishing.
>>
>>         Hope this helps,
>>
>>         N.
>>
>>
>>         _______________________________________________
>>         python-uk mailing list
>>         python-uk at python.org <mailto:python-uk at python.org>
>>         https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
>>
>>
>>     _______________________________________________
>>     python-uk mailing list
>>     python-uk at python.org <mailto:python-uk at python.org>
>>     https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> python-uk mailing list
>> python-uk at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> python-uk mailing list
> python-uk at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
> 


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From richard at arbee-design.co.uk  Fri Sep  2 11:26:18 2016
From: richard at arbee-design.co.uk (Richard Barran)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 17:26:18 +0200
Subject: [python-uk] job postings to this list
In-Reply-To: <DB5PR06MB094905F232023F5F0A52118EB8E50@DB5PR06MB0949.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <c7f0a28b-7ecd-f611-1dab-58d8a80b6ddf@simplistix.co.uk>
 <ff98d1a4-4a73-fcc6-fe5e-aa2d4b96833b@ntoll.org>
 <CANBSuyGc0Z3C-FWc=-B-AvVyqmHG13tBTUrcOm+aSN7QvR2iJw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <1C880C71-088B-4484-84ED-E7B0DCDF5C83@arbee-design.co.uk>

This thread does sound like a meeting of the People's Front of Judea.

(PS: and that?s my convoluted attempt at slipping a Monty Python reference into this mailing list)

> On 2 Sep 2016, at 17:09, S Walker <walker_s at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> And once again the amount of posts in a discussion about whether or not there are too many job postings significantly exceeds the amount of job postings!
> 
> S
> 
> On 02/09/16 11:44, Stephen Thorne wrote:
>> I've not only accidentally done this, but ended up working for that employer for 5 years! (not this list)
>> 
>> On Fri, 2 Sep 2016 at 09:49 Tom Viner < <mailto:tom at viner.tv>tom at viner.tv <mailto:tom at viner.tv>> wrote:
>> Potential candidates as well as recruiters are reminded that hitting reply will result in a mail aimed back to the list.
>> 
>> You must then manually edit the To: field.
>> 
>> Furthermore: Outlook's "recall this message" will not work, rather it will send a further email to the list, each and every time you click it. Although perhaps third time's a charm? <https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-uk/2013-January/002760.html>
>> 
>> You have been warned!
>> 
>> 
>> On 2 September 2016 at 07:09, Nicholas H.Tollervey < <mailto:ntoll at ntoll.org>ntoll at ntoll.org <mailto:ntoll at ntoll.org>> wrote:
>> On 01/09/16 22:49, Chris Withers wrote:
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > What's the current state of play with job ads and this list?
>> >
>> > Last I knew, they weren't allowed. Seems to be the majority of list
>> > content now...
>> >
>> > Chris
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > python-uk mailing list
>> > python-uk at python.org <mailto:python-uk at python.org>
>> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk>
>> 
>> As people have mentioned, the consensus that I've seen is that posting a
>> job ad is fine so long as it's not recruiter spam.
>> 
>> Of course, recruiters advertising for a specific job with an appropriate
>> level of detail about the job in question (location, salary, expectation
>> of role, desired skills and experience, information about what the
>> company does) is also fine.
>> 
>> What is recruiter spam? How about, "exciting opportunity for Python
>> ninja in green-field project at one of London's most exciting employers"
>> is, IMHO, NOT welcome. It's just meaningless noise and probably
>> recruitment phishing.
>> 
>> Hope this helps,
>> 
>> N.
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> python-uk mailing list
>> python-uk at python.org <mailto:python-uk at python.org>
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk>
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> python-uk mailing list
>> python-uk at python.org <mailto:python-uk at python.org>
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk>
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> python-uk mailing list
>> python-uk at python.org <mailto:python-uk at python.org>
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk>
> 
> _______________________________________________
> python-uk mailing list
> python-uk at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk

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From ryan.pepper at soton.ac.uk  Fri Sep  2 11:33:55 2016
From: ryan.pepper at soton.ac.uk (Pepper R.)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 15:33:55 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] job postings to this list
In-Reply-To: <1C880C71-088B-4484-84ED-E7B0DCDF5C83@arbee-design.co.uk>
References: <c7f0a28b-7ecd-f611-1dab-58d8a80b6ddf@simplistix.co.uk>
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Splitters!

Sent from my iPhone

On 2 Sep 2016, at 16:26, Richard Barran <richard at arbee-design.co.uk<mailto:richard at arbee-design.co.uk>> wrote:

This thread does sound like a meeting of the People's Front of Judea.

(PS: and that?s my convoluted attempt at slipping a Monty Python reference into this mailing list)

On 2 Sep 2016, at 17:09, S Walker <walker_s at hotmail.co.uk<mailto:walker_s at hotmail.co.uk>> wrote:

And once again the amount of posts in a discussion about whether or not there are too many job postings significantly exceeds the amount of job postings!

S

On 02/09/16 11:44, Stephen Thorne wrote:
I've not only accidentally done this, but ended up working for that employer for 5 years! (not this list)

On Fri, 2 Sep 2016 at 09:49 Tom Viner <<mailto:tom at viner.tv>tom at viner.tv<mailto:tom at viner.tv>> wrote:
Potential candidates as well as recruiters are reminded that hitting reply will result in a mail aimed back to the list.

You must then manually edit the To: field.

Furthermore: Outlook's "recall this message" will not work, rather it will send a further email to the list, each and every time you click it. Although perhaps third time's a charm?<https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-uk/2013-January/002760.html>

You have been warned!


On 2 September 2016 at 07:09, Nicholas H.Tollervey <<mailto:ntoll at ntoll.org>ntoll at ntoll.org<mailto:ntoll at ntoll.org>> wrote:
On 01/09/16 22:49, Chris Withers wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> What's the current state of play with job ads and this list?
>
> Last I knew, they weren't allowed. Seems to be the majority of list
> content now...
>
> Chris
>
> _______________________________________________
> python-uk mailing list
> python-uk at python.org<mailto:python-uk at python.org>
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk

As people have mentioned, the consensus that I've seen is that posting a
job ad is fine so long as it's not recruiter spam.

Of course, recruiters advertising for a specific job with an appropriate
level of detail about the job in question (location, salary, expectation
of role, desired skills and experience, information about what the
company does) is also fine.

What is recruiter spam? How about, "exciting opportunity for Python
ninja in green-field project at one of London's most exciting employers"
is, IMHO, NOT welcome. It's just meaningless noise and probably
recruitment phishing.

Hope this helps,

N.


_______________________________________________
python-uk mailing list
python-uk at python.org<mailto:python-uk at python.org>
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk


_______________________________________________
python-uk mailing list
python-uk at python.org<mailto:python-uk at python.org>
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk



_______________________________________________
python-uk mailing list
python-uk at python.org<mailto:python-uk at python.org>
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk


_______________________________________________
python-uk mailing list
python-uk at python.org<mailto:python-uk at python.org>
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk

_______________________________________________
python-uk mailing list
python-uk at python.org<mailto:python-uk at python.org>
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk

From andy at reportlab.com  Fri Sep  2 12:48:45 2016
From: andy at reportlab.com (Andy Robinson)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 17:48:45 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] job postings to this list
In-Reply-To: <CANBSuyGc0Z3C-FWc=-B-AvVyqmHG13tBTUrcOm+aSN7QvR2iJw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c7f0a28b-7ecd-f611-1dab-58d8a80b6ddf@simplistix.co.uk>
 <ff98d1a4-4a73-fcc6-fe5e-aa2d4b96833b@ntoll.org>
 <CANBSuyGc0Z3C-FWc=-B-AvVyqmHG13tBTUrcOm+aSN7QvR2iJw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABjtApvsTnd+n=W29+PXfRsSJPc+=vBaaXszO+BSS+vZYwYm_g@mail.gmail.com>

Chris, thanks for pointing out the new job site, which I had not
really clocked.

I have a question about pythonjobs.github.io  (assuming Steve Stagg
reads this list).  I'm looking at Jekyll / GitHub Pages for a number
of static sites for sports clubs, where we need to get them up and
running but really want zero administration.

  Pros:  just push, and GutHub rebuilds the live site for you in seconds
  Cons: faffing around with Ruby when I know Python, learning
templating systems "similar but different" to ones I know

With Hyde, do you have something rigged up to rebuild the site
automatically on pushing?  Or are you running a script on a dev
machine after the pull request, and pushing up all the generated HTML
files yourself?

Thanks,

Andy

From jon+python-uk at unequivocal.eu  Fri Sep  2 12:45:13 2016
From: jon+python-uk at unequivocal.eu (Jon Ribbens)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 17:45:13 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] job postings to this list
In-Reply-To: <1C880C71-088B-4484-84ED-E7B0DCDF5C83@arbee-design.co.uk>
References: <c7f0a28b-7ecd-f611-1dab-58d8a80b6ddf@simplistix.co.uk>
 <ff98d1a4-4a73-fcc6-fe5e-aa2d4b96833b@ntoll.org>
 <CANBSuyGc0Z3C-FWc=-B-AvVyqmHG13tBTUrcOm+aSN7QvR2iJw@mail.gmail.com>
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 <1C880C71-088B-4484-84ED-E7B0DCDF5C83@arbee-design.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20160902164513.GE10337@unequivocal.eu>

On Fri, Sep 02, 2016 at 05:26:18PM +0200, Richard Barran wrote:
>    This thread does sound like a meeting of the People's Front of Judea.
>    (PS: and that?s my convoluted attempt at slipping a Monty Python reference
>    into this mailing list)

Could we talk about top-posting instead please?

From nathan.jeffrey at gmail.com  Fri Sep  2 13:43:08 2016
From: nathan.jeffrey at gmail.com (Nathan Jeffrey)
Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2016 17:43:08 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] job postings to this list
In-Reply-To: <20160902164513.GE10337@unequivocal.eu>
References: <c7f0a28b-7ecd-f611-1dab-58d8a80b6ddf@simplistix.co.uk>
 <ff98d1a4-4a73-fcc6-fe5e-aa2d4b96833b@ntoll.org>
 <CANBSuyGc0Z3C-FWc=-B-AvVyqmHG13tBTUrcOm+aSN7QvR2iJw@mail.gmail.com>
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On Fri, 2 Sep 2016, 17:54 Jon Ribbens, <jon+python-uk at unequivocal.eu> wrote:

>
> Could we talk about top-posting instead please?
>

I gave up on that fight a long, long time ago. You can't win. There are too
many of them.

- N

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From steve at holdenweb.com  Fri Sep  2 13:45:21 2016
From: steve at holdenweb.com (Steve Holden)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 18:45:21 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] job postings to this list
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On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 5:45 PM, Jon Ribbens <jon+python-uk at unequivocal.eu>
wrote:

> Could we talk about top-posting instead please?
>

Me too!

Steve Holden
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From steve at holdenweb.com  Fri Sep  2 13:46:38 2016
From: steve at holdenweb.com (Steve Holden)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 18:46:38 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] job postings to this list
In-Reply-To: <CANmvzPjmXG40mrRJZ2utnVe55G6RYqL1xnYqPJkL01A4MtfFSw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c7f0a28b-7ecd-f611-1dab-58d8a80b6ddf@simplistix.co.uk>
 <ff98d1a4-4a73-fcc6-fe5e-aa2d4b96833b@ntoll.org>
 <CANBSuyGc0Z3C-FWc=-B-AvVyqmHG13tBTUrcOm+aSN7QvR2iJw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFPU7=upVR8W1HZgyCAXQzgN2VqwrEdbFNeqtUibDqJz029diQ@mail.gmail.com>
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To which the real geek solution would be to write a program that will
re-order top-posted replies. We could call it "sensiblising".

Steve Holden

On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 6:43 PM, Nathan Jeffrey <nathan.jeffrey at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Fri, 2 Sep 2016, 17:54 Jon Ribbens, <jon+python-uk at unequivocal.eu>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Could we talk about top-posting instead please?
>>
>
> I gave up on that fight a long, long time ago. You can't win. There are
> too many of them.
>
> - N
>
>>
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From stestagg at gmail.com  Fri Sep  2 14:30:14 2016
From: stestagg at gmail.com (Stestagg)
Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2016 18:30:14 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] job postings to this list
In-Reply-To: <CABjtApvsTnd+n=W29+PXfRsSJPc+=vBaaXszO+BSS+vZYwYm_g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c7f0a28b-7ecd-f611-1dab-58d8a80b6ddf@simplistix.co.uk>
 <ff98d1a4-4a73-fcc6-fe5e-aa2d4b96833b@ntoll.org>
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Hi Andy

We use travis to build the site. You can see the travis yaml file and build
scripts in our repo:


https://github.com/pythonjobs/jobs/blob/master/.travis.yml

The scripts are a bit more complex than they need to be because I
segregated the actual job .md files out from the rest of the site
structure. For pythonjobs this is good because it makes it hard for people
to accidentally submit pull requests to the jobs repo that affect the
templates and general site structure. Plus we can manage the access
controls more carefully.

If you can make your repo public, I would recommend travis as a great way
to build your site.

If you've any questions, please ask on or off list.

Regards

Steve

On Fri, 2 Sep 2016 at 17:49, Andy Robinson <andy at reportlab.com> wrote:

> Chris, thanks for pointing out the new job site, which I had not
> really clocked.
>
> I have a question about pythonjobs.github.io  (assuming Steve Stagg
> reads this list).  I'm looking at Jekyll / GitHub Pages for a number
> of static sites for sports clubs, where we need to get them up and
> running but really want zero administration.
>
>   Pros:  just push, and GutHub rebuilds the live site for you in seconds
>   Cons: faffing around with Ruby when I know Python, learning
> templating systems "similar but different" to ones I know
>
> With Hyde, do you have something rigged up to rebuild the site
> automatically on pushing?  Or are you running a script on a dev
> machine after the pull request, and pushing up all the generated HTML
> files yourself?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andy
> _______________________________________________
> python-uk mailing list
> python-uk at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
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From a.grandi at gmail.com  Fri Sep  2 14:42:09 2016
From: a.grandi at gmail.com (a.grandi at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 19:42:09 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] job postings to this list
In-Reply-To: <CACFDE8YqBMN+_O=VEB0AuMDjMiUAC3Qu-XZa3sFeZ8a7=mi1xg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c7f0a28b-7ecd-f611-1dab-58d8a80b6ddf@simplistix.co.uk>
 <ff98d1a4-4a73-fcc6-fe5e-aa2d4b96833b@ntoll.org>
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I would start worrying when companies will stop posting job ads,
because of brexit....

Have a nice weekend everyone :)

On 2 September 2016 at 19:30, Stestagg <stestagg at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Andy
>
> We use travis to build the site. You can see the travis yaml file and build
> scripts in our repo:
>
>
> https://github.com/pythonjobs/jobs/blob/master/.travis.yml
>
> The scripts are a bit more complex than they need to be because I segregated
> the actual job .md files out from the rest of the site structure. For
> pythonjobs this is good because it makes it hard for people to accidentally
> submit pull requests to the jobs repo that affect the templates and general
> site structure. Plus we can manage the access controls more carefully.
>
> If you can make your repo public, I would recommend travis as a great way to
> build your site.
>
> If you've any questions, please ask on or off list.
>
> Regards
>
> Steve
>
> On Fri, 2 Sep 2016 at 17:49, Andy Robinson <andy at reportlab.com> wrote:
>>
>> Chris, thanks for pointing out the new job site, which I had not
>> really clocked.
>>
>> I have a question about pythonjobs.github.io  (assuming Steve Stagg
>> reads this list).  I'm looking at Jekyll / GitHub Pages for a number
>> of static sites for sports clubs, where we need to get them up and
>> running but really want zero administration.
>>
>>   Pros:  just push, and GutHub rebuilds the live site for you in seconds
>>   Cons: faffing around with Ruby when I know Python, learning
>> templating systems "similar but different" to ones I know
>>
>> With Hyde, do you have something rigged up to rebuild the site
>> automatically on pushing?  Or are you running a script on a dev
>> machine after the pull request, and pushing up all the generated HTML
>> files yourself?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Andy
>> _______________________________________________
>> python-uk mailing list
>> python-uk at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> python-uk mailing list
> python-uk at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
>



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From andy at reportlab.com  Fri Sep  2 14:57:43 2016
From: andy at reportlab.com (Andy Robinson)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 19:57:43 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] Static site generators with Python
Message-ID: <CABjtApv8_dDGDiTgdoRixropKz7K8=Hx1jvvPsSAfr8ZhJ8Bhg@mail.gmail.com>

Re-subjecting...

On 2 September 2016 at 19:30, Stestagg <stestagg at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Andy
>
> We use travis to build the site. You can see the travis yaml file and build
> scripts in our repo:
...
> If you can make your repo public, I would recommend travis as a great way to
> build your site.
We can
> If you've any questions, please ask on or off list.

Thanks for this. I have never touched Travis, but it's time I learned.

If I understand correctly, it's a hosted service which can do pretty
much anything you want when it sees a commit; in this case
- pull from jobs repo
- generate output files
- push back the finished HTML up to the GitHub repo

?
Cool!

(Yes, I've been under a rock for about 10 years)

I am embarking on a rather ambitious project to modernise an entire
sport.  Thousands of clubs have the problem of somewhere between zero
and one webmasters at any one time, and the dynamic  things they need
to do - fixture lists, race results - can just about all he handled by
Javascript these days.  With some nice reusable widgets and standards,
no need for database server.  And GitHub solves the problem of letting
multiple people access the repo and write/edit stories with no coding
skill.

Speaking of which, is or was anyone on this site involved with
athletics or running?

- Andy

From alistair.broomhead at gmail.com  Fri Sep  2 15:18:20 2016
From: alistair.broomhead at gmail.com (Alistair Broomhead)
Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2016 19:18:20 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] Static site generators with Python
In-Reply-To: <CABjtApv8_dDGDiTgdoRixropKz7K8=Hx1jvvPsSAfr8ZhJ8Bhg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABjtApv8_dDGDiTgdoRixropKz7K8=Hx1jvvPsSAfr8ZhJ8Bhg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADocXU-3cabREc1=jUyrsAn1ZxfogCTDQdcN8WFaoJkY3SneMQ@mail.gmail.com>

It's also worth looking at circleci and buildbot, where the latter is run
locally, which has its own pros and cons, and the former has had a lot of
hype because of support for parallelism. Travis has good integration with
slack though which is cool, and it has a lot of community support.

On Fri, 2 Sep 2016, 19:58 Andy Robinson, <andy at reportlab.com> wrote:

> Re-subjecting...
>
> On 2 September 2016 at 19:30, Stestagg <stestagg at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Andy
> >
> > We use travis to build the site. You can see the travis yaml file and
> build
> > scripts in our repo:
> ...
> > If you can make your repo public, I would recommend travis as a great
> way to
> > build your site.
> We can
> > If you've any questions, please ask on or off list.
>
> Thanks for this. I have never touched Travis, but it's time I learned.
>
> If I understand correctly, it's a hosted service which can do pretty
> much anything you want when it sees a commit; in this case
> - pull from jobs repo
> - generate output files
> - push back the finished HTML up to the GitHub repo
>
> ?
> Cool!
>
> (Yes, I've been under a rock for about 10 years)
>
> I am embarking on a rather ambitious project to modernise an entire
> sport.  Thousands of clubs have the problem of somewhere between zero
> and one webmasters at any one time, and the dynamic  things they need
> to do - fixture lists, race results - can just about all he handled by
> Javascript these days.  With some nice reusable widgets and standards,
> no need for database server.  And GitHub solves the problem of letting
> multiple people access the repo and write/edit stories with no coding
> skill.
>
> Speaking of which, is or was anyone on this site involved with
> athletics or running?
>
> - Andy
> _______________________________________________
> python-uk mailing list
> python-uk at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
>
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From andy at reportlab.com  Fri Sep  2 15:28:57 2016
From: andy at reportlab.com (Andy Robinson)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 20:28:57 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] Static site generators with Python
In-Reply-To: <CADocXU-3cabREc1=jUyrsAn1ZxfogCTDQdcN8WFaoJkY3SneMQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABjtApv8_dDGDiTgdoRixropKz7K8=Hx1jvvPsSAfr8ZhJ8Bhg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CADocXU-3cabREc1=jUyrsAn1ZxfogCTDQdcN8WFaoJkY3SneMQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABjtApuaiXm6x-zFWKR=vaWbz8Gt_86kq=iF05Egu_LfvyVj=A@mail.gmail.com>

On 2 September 2016 at 20:18, Alistair Broomhead
<alistair.broomhead at gmail.com> wrote:
> It's also worth looking at circleci and buildbot, where the latter is run
> locally, which has its own pros and cons, and the former has had a lot of
> hype because of support for parallelism. Travis has good integration with
> slack though which is cool, and it has a lot of community support.

I was going to ask about Slack.   We're moving to a tech hub that uses
it.  Who's using it here?

My first reaction was that I'm not sure that I am looking for even
more ways for my team and clients to interrupt each other, but if it's
an overall time or culture win for the firms that have tried it, maybe
time to take the plunge.  I just had my first play and hooked up
GitHub to post slack on changes.  Looking ahead, we will have more
remote workers and collaborators.

- Andy

From ryan.pepper at soton.ac.uk  Fri Sep  2 15:27:32 2016
From: ryan.pepper at soton.ac.uk (Pepper R.)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 19:27:32 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] Static site generators with Python
In-Reply-To: <CADocXU-3cabREc1=jUyrsAn1ZxfogCTDQdcN8WFaoJkY3SneMQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABjtApv8_dDGDiTgdoRixropKz7K8=Hx1jvvPsSAfr8ZhJ8Bhg@mail.gmail.com>,
 <CADocXU-3cabREc1=jUyrsAn1ZxfogCTDQdcN8WFaoJkY3SneMQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7CE8EED9-F3D0-4586-BB78-5F6BC02B9899@soton.ac.uk>



Sent from my iPhone
On 2 Sep 2016, at 20:18, Alistair Broomhead <alistair.broomhead at gmail.com<mailto:alistair.broomhead at gmail.com>> wrote:


It's also worth looking at circleci and buildbot, where the latter is run locally, which has its own pros and cons, and the former has had a lot of hype because of support for parallelism. Travis has good integration with slack though which is cool, and it has a lot of community support.

Personally, I've preferred Circle over Travis purely on the basis that you can SSH into the build, which makes things much easier if you want to diagnose why something hasn't worked.



From alistair.broomhead at gmail.com  Fri Sep  2 15:35:35 2016
From: alistair.broomhead at gmail.com (Alistair Broomhead)
Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2016 19:35:35 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] Static site generators with Python
In-Reply-To: <CABjtApuaiXm6x-zFWKR=vaWbz8Gt_86kq=iF05Egu_LfvyVj=A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABjtApv8_dDGDiTgdoRixropKz7K8=Hx1jvvPsSAfr8ZhJ8Bhg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CADocXU-xMZVH2d7b4Fwp_G0hArDEw2LWPb9wQinav3N7bPoujg@mail.gmail.com>

I've used slack, as well as a few other messaging clients. I'd say that
unless you have any specific requirements it's the best I've used, the
integrations are fairly intuitive to set up, although i recommend separate
notification rooms rather than having everything spewed into rooms where
you might be trying to have a conversation.

At the end of the day whether it works depends on your team and what you're
trying to achieve.

On Fri, 2 Sep 2016, 20:29 Andy Robinson, <andy at reportlab.com> wrote:

> On 2 September 2016 at 20:18, Alistair Broomhead
> <alistair.broomhead at gmail.com> wrote:
> > It's also worth looking at circleci and buildbot, where the latter is run
> > locally, which has its own pros and cons, and the former has had a lot of
> > hype because of support for parallelism. Travis has good integration with
> > slack though which is cool, and it has a lot of community support.
>
> I was going to ask about Slack.   We're moving to a tech hub that uses
> it.  Who's using it here?
>
> My first reaction was that I'm not sure that I am looking for even
> more ways for my team and clients to interrupt each other, but if it's
> an overall time or culture win for the firms that have tried it, maybe
> time to take the plunge.  I just had my first play and hooked up
> GitHub to post slack on changes.  Looking ahead, we will have more
> remote workers and collaborators.
>
> - Andy
> _______________________________________________
> python-uk mailing list
> python-uk at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
>
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From stestagg at gmail.com  Fri Sep  2 19:36:59 2016
From: stestagg at gmail.com (Stestagg)
Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2016 23:36:59 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] Static site generators with Python
In-Reply-To: <CABjtApv8_dDGDiTgdoRixropKz7K8=Hx1jvvPsSAfr8ZhJ8Bhg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABjtApv8_dDGDiTgdoRixropKz7K8=Hx1jvvPsSAfr8ZhJ8Bhg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACFDE8Z=M9qrnFA-zPrQjsBg5xc9rckRTsQ9tSx0kmPABJjTZQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 7:57 PM Andy Robinson <andy at reportlab.com> wrote:

> Re-subjecting...
>
> On 2 September 2016 at 19:30, Stestagg <stestagg at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Andy
> >
> > We use travis to build the site. You can see the travis yaml file and
> build
> > scripts in our repo:
> ...
> > If you can make your repo public, I would recommend travis as a great
> way to
> > build your site.
> We can
> > If you've any questions, please ask on or off list.
>
> Thanks for this. I have never touched Travis, but it's time I learned.
>
> If I understand correctly, it's a hosted service which can do pretty
> much anything you want when it sees a commit; in this case
> - pull from jobs repo
> - generate output files
> - push back the finished HTML up to the GitHub repo
>
> ?
> Cool!
>
> (Yes, I've been under a rock for about 10 years)
>
> I am embarking on a rather ambitious project to modernise an entire
> sport.  Thousands of clubs have the problem of somewhere between zero
> and one webmasters at any one time, and the dynamic  things they need
> to do - fixture lists, race results - can just about all he handled by
> Javascript these days.  With some nice reusable widgets and standards,
> no need for database server.  And GitHub solves the problem of letting
> multiple people access the repo and write/edit stories with no coding
> skill.
>
> Speaking of which, is or was anyone on this site involved with
> athletics or running?
>
> - Andy
>

Yes, that's right, travis (and circleci, and the others..) basically just
spin up a container, check out the repo, and run the commands listed in the
travis.yml (or equivalent) in a full environment.

This allows us to pull, and even push, using secret tokens, to other git
repos (although that's not a very common use-case), install software, run
tests, and build the site.

One thing I would caution about is that github is not a CMS, and while it's
awesome and does DCVS really well, there is definitely a minimum level of
experience required to use it to submit a good pull request.  Simple things
like naming files correctly, editing online, cloning repos etc, are not
intuitive to people not used to these sort of workflows.

If your users are willing to learn/already know enough to understand what's
happening, then it's fine, but I would expect a certain amount of
frustration from the less technically oriented editors.  (Something of a
feature for pythonjobs, but I don't know if that's the case for athletics)

Finally, if you're thinking of doing this at scale, I'd recommend reaching
out to the github support team fairly early on. We did for pythonjobs, just
to check that what we were doing was a good idea, and they were very keen
on the idea, but opening a channel early on may help with any issues down
the line

Steve



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From andy at reportlab.com  Sat Sep  3 13:19:26 2016
From: andy at reportlab.com (Andy Robinson)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 18:19:26 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] Static site generators with Python
In-Reply-To: <CACFDE8Z=M9qrnFA-zPrQjsBg5xc9rckRTsQ9tSx0kmPABJjTZQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Steve, thanks for this.

For the use case I have in mind - running club web site, all info public
- typically 3-5 people in a club would use the GitHub raw web UI to create
a new markdown file, hit commit and it's live. No branches or pull requests
ever.  A handful of others would have set up the CSS and templating. And
they can change a sentence from anywhere.  We have already tested with
enough naive users and it works fine.

This completely fixes the old "single point of failure" with one webmaster
who went on holiday, yet with far less to go wrong - no MySQL database etc,
redundant infrastructure, great performance.

We will be doing a lot of fun stuff providing separate "dynamic" features
with front end widgets that can fetch a JSON file and format it.

So the only issue is picking a nice static site generator and hooking it
all up. Obviously I prefer Python and now I know we don't need to maintain
any infrastructure. So, thanks again?

Sorry to top post but anything else on my iPhone is a nightmarish ordeal.

Andy

On Saturday, 3 September 2016, Stestagg <stestagg at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 7:57 PM Andy Robinson <andy at reportlab.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','andy at reportlab.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Re-subjecting...
>>
>> On 2 September 2016 at 19:30, Stestagg <stestagg at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','stestagg at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>> > Hi Andy
>> >
>> > We use travis to build the site. You can see the travis yaml file and
>> build
>> > scripts in our repo:
>> ...
>> > If you can make your repo public, I would recommend travis as a great
>> way to
>> > build your site.
>> We can
>> > If you've any questions, please ask on or off list.
>>
>> Thanks for this. I have never touched Travis, but it's time I learned.
>>
>> If I understand correctly, it's a hosted service which can do pretty
>> much anything you want when it sees a commit; in this case
>> - pull from jobs repo
>> - generate output files
>> - push back the finished HTML up to the GitHub repo
>>
>> ?
>> Cool!
>>
>> (Yes, I've been under a rock for about 10 years)
>>
>> I am embarking on a rather ambitious project to modernise an entire
>> sport.  Thousands of clubs have the problem of somewhere between zero
>> and one webmasters at any one time, and the dynamic  things they need
>> to do - fixture lists, race results - can just about all he handled by
>> Javascript these days.  With some nice reusable widgets and standards,
>> no need for database server.  And GitHub solves the problem of letting
>> multiple people access the repo and write/edit stories with no coding
>> skill.
>>
>> Speaking of which, is or was anyone on this site involved with
>> athletics or running?
>>
>> - Andy
>>
>
> Yes, that's right, travis (and circleci, and the others..) basically just
> spin up a container, check out the repo, and run the commands listed in the
> travis.yml (or equivalent) in a full environment.
>
> This allows us to pull, and even push, using secret tokens, to other git
> repos (although that's not a very common use-case), install software, run
> tests, and build the site.
>
> One thing I would caution about is that github is not a CMS, and while
> it's awesome and does DCVS really well, there is definitely a minimum level
> of experience required to use it to submit a good pull request.  Simple
> things like naming files correctly, editing online, cloning repos etc, are
> not intuitive to people not used to these sort of workflows.
>
> If your users are willing to learn/already know enough to understand
> what's happening, then it's fine, but I would expect a certain amount of
> frustration from the less technically oriented editors.  (Something of a
> feature for pythonjobs, but I don't know if that's the case for athletics)
>
> Finally, if you're thinking of doing this at scale, I'd recommend reaching
> out to the github support team fairly early on. We did for pythonjobs, just
> to check that what we were doing was a good idea, and they were very keen
> on the idea, but opening a channel early on may help with any issues down
> the line
>
> Steve
>
>
>
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From gadgetsteve at hotmail.com  Sat Sep  3 15:17:21 2016
From: gadgetsteve at hotmail.com (Steve - Gadget Barnes)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 19:17:21 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] Static site generators with Python
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On 03/09/2016 18:19, Andy Robinson wrote:
> Steve, thanks for this.
> 
> For the use case I have in mind - running club web site, all info public
> - typically 3-5 people in a club would use the GitHub raw web UI to
> create a new markdown file, hit commit and it's live. No branches or
> pull requests ever.  A handful of others would have set up the CSS and
> templating. And they can change a sentence from anywhere.  We have
> already tested with enough naive users and it works fine. 
> 
> This completely fixes the old "single point of failure" with one
> webmaster who went on holiday, yet with far less to go wrong - no MySQL
> database etc, redundant infrastructure, great performance.
> 
> We will be doing a lot of fun stuff providing separate "dynamic"
> features with front end widgets that can fetch a JSON file and format it. 
> 
> So the only issue is picking a nice static site generator and hooking it
> all up. Obviously I prefer Python and now I know we don't need to
> maintain any infrastructure. So, thanks again?
> 
> Sorry to top post but anything else on my iPhone is a nightmarish ordeal.
> 
> Andy
> 
> On Saturday, 3 September 2016, Stestagg <stestagg at gmail.com
> <mailto:stestagg at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
Andy,

You might find this GilLab article useful as well:
https://about.gitlab.com/2016/08/26/ci-deployment-and-environments/

While it concentrates on deployment you can also perform build steps,
such as running a static python website generator like hyde
automatically on each push.

A different Steve.

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From steve at holdenweb.com  Tue Sep  6 11:37:31 2016
From: steve at holdenweb.com (Steve Holden)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 17:37:31 +0200
Subject: [python-uk] Vacancies for Python Developers (plus QA and Devops
 roles)
Message-ID: <CAMofdRBwohTnA5xr5yc+M=uL7J=SWyhwMGEoAqH8fe5KGUUFoA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

As you  may know, I am not a recruiter. But my company has just received
second-round seed funding and so we have vacancies to fill. The roles are
described here:

https://stackoverflow.com/jobs/124214/python-developer-bmll-technologies?offset=0
https://stackoverflow.com/jobs/124213/qa-engineer-bmll-technologies?offset=0
https://stackoverflow.com/jobs/124209/dev-ops-engineer-bmll-technologies?offset=0

For more background on the company, please see our web site
https://bmlltech.com

I am currently on vacation and have only surfaced to make this posting. I
will cope with any replies on my return to work next week, but the
pre-selection process is proceeding in my absence.

Sorry for the noise to those who don't want to see jobs advertised here.

regards
Steve Holden
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From niamh at skimlinks.com  Wed Sep  7 06:12:44 2016
From: niamh at skimlinks.com (Niamh O'Reilly)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 11:12:44 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] Skimlinks - Hiring for Python - Senior Engineers & Data
 Scientists.
Message-ID: <CAD_J4TT_O0LF3ethrOJPqHz5BG9nSn+-cVx4q1cxMphrVXA7fA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

Skimlinks is currently hiring for a couple of senior engineering vacancies.
Our primary language is Python. We are looking for Staff Engineers, Senior
Software Engineers and also hiring for Data Scientists.

For anyone unfamiliar with Skimlinks, we are a leading e-commerce and
analytics platform connecting approx 1.5m publisher domains with 20,000+
retailers/ merchants. Through our platform/network, we have a direct view
of the browsing and shopping behaviors of over 650 million users, amassing
over 1TB of data daily across over a billion API calls. Our product
portfolio ranges from content monetization platforms to audience
segmentation/programmatic offerings.  We apply machine learning to a
colossal amount of data and are working on a lot of complex projects right
now.

If you would like to learn more about our job opportunities you can review
the descriptions in links below or reach out to me directly (
niamh at skimlinks.com).
Senior Engineer:
https://boards.greenhouse.io/skimlinks/jobs/213563#.V8_m5ZMrKu4
Staff /Principal Engineer :
https://boards.greenhouse.io/skimlinks/jobs/89256
Senior Data Scientist:
https://boards.greenhouse.io/skimlinks/jobs/208323#.V8_nxpMrKu4

Many thanks,
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From alistair.broomhead at gmail.com  Mon Sep 12 04:44:20 2016
From: alistair.broomhead at gmail.com (Alistair Broomhead)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 08:44:20 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] Full stack web team seeks full stack developer (London)
Message-ID: <CADocXU-bH-N6+8QqB_OWDo2oEfhRO4m3uy9sDi+kqrjUqfhSrA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi everybody,

Some of you might know me through the London Python community, or at least
from spamming this list about meetups.

I'm currently working at a small start-up called Novastone (
novastonemedia.com) which works in the secure messaging space and we're
looking for full-stack developers to join the team.

Our current web stack uses Flask, SQLAlchemy, MQTT, MSSQL, Angular and AWS,
and we have apps for Android and iOS, but we're more interested in
experience with architectures and methodologies than specific frameworks.
We're interested in people who can bring strong front-end experience with a
good base in Python, but would look at anyone with an interesting set of
cross-discipline skills.

I could talk about silly perks and agile, but it's a cool place, and that's
why I work here.

If you're interested you can email me on alistair at novastonemedia.com or the
CTO on ravi at novastonemedia.com, or you can grab me at a meetup,

Al
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From f.natali at reckondigital.com  Fri Sep 16 14:02:51 2016
From: f.natali at reckondigital.com (Fabio Natali)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 19:02:51 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] [Job post] Python/Django developer, London
Message-ID: <5017d2bf-58fd-2297-fb8b-787a3b8f79fc@reckondigital.com>

Hi Everyone,

I'm Fabio, a director at Reckon Digital, a small software dev company in
London. We're looking for a new Python/Django developer to join our team
and I thought of spreading the news here.

You can find more info here:

https://reckondigital.com/jobs/

I'm on a train to PyConUK right now, if you happen to be there and are
interested, get in touch!

Thanks,

Fabio.


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From michael at grazebrook.com  Sat Sep 17 06:15:32 2016
From: michael at grazebrook.com (michael at grazebrook.com)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2016 11:15:32 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] PyConUK Saturday supper
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From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Mon Sep 19 05:19:33 2016
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 10:19:33 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] PyCon UK videos
Message-ID: <45ddd9a8-c96e-34d3-8ba7-f363949e312d@timgolden.me.uk>

For those who couldn't make it to the Conference, or (like me) were at
the Conference but couldn't attend many talks, the videos are up already:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChA9XP_feY1-1oSy2L7acog/videos

TJG

From alistair.broomhead at gmail.com  Mon Sep 19 05:32:04 2016
From: alistair.broomhead at gmail.com (Alistair Broomhead)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 09:32:04 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] PyCon UK videos
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Awesome, thanks for sharing this Tim!

On Mon, 19 Sep 2016, 10:20 Tim Golden, <mail at timgolden.me.uk> wrote:

> For those who couldn't make it to the Conference, or (like me) were at
> the Conference but couldn't attend many talks, the videos are up already:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChA9XP_feY1-1oSy2L7acog/videos
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From andy.idiaghe at gmail.com  Mon Sep 19 12:37:09 2016
From: andy.idiaghe at gmail.com (Andy Idiaghe)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 17:37:09 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] python-uk Digest, Vol 157, Issue 13
Message-ID: <CAFdV5_4BssN6k6jszfqp1qL=R0Uw7UZAKkxHtar_cLzyVSus_g@mail.gmail.com>

Thx guys

2016-09-19 17:00 GMT+01:00 <python-uk-request at python.org>:

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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 10:19:33 +0100
> From: Tim Golden <mail at timgolden.me.uk>
> To: UK Python Users <python-uk at python.org>
> Subject: [python-uk] PyCon UK videos
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> For those who couldn't make it to the Conference, or (like me) were at
> the Conference but couldn't attend many talks, the videos are up already:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChA9XP_feY1-1oSy2L7acog/videos
>
> TJG
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 09:32:04 +0000
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> Awesome, thanks for sharing this Tim!
>
> On Mon, 19 Sep 2016, 10:20 Tim Golden, <mail at timgolden.me.uk> wrote:
>
> > For those who couldn't make it to the Conference, or (like me) were at
> > the Conference but couldn't attend many talks, the videos are up already:
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChA9XP_feY1-1oSy2L7acog/videos
> >
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From leohuckvale at gmail.com  Tue Sep 20 04:16:50 2016
From: leohuckvale at gmail.com (Leo Huckvale)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 09:16:50 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] Educator-Developer forum
Message-ID: <CAKdYfxK0S_02hLnxfeK+Db--sT+XiTB5O=1ouO9SSd6mKZN5Pg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

 At the "Adopt a Teacher/Developer" session at PyCon UK last weekend, I and
a couple of other developers met with a teacher who suggested building a
forum/portal/Q&A site for educators and developers to interact. The main
aims of this would be to provide somewhere:

- where educators could go and ask questions from developers (at *any*
level, without fear, and preferably at short notice)
- to continue "ed-dev" dialogue from PyCon throughout the year
- to build a community around teaching Python in schools

 It was suggested to me that this might fit somewhere under the PSF mantle,
and that there are already plans afoot to build an education site there.

 One of our number is currently setting up an Askbot site, so we can get a
few developers and educators on board and see how it goes.

 Please get in touch if you have any comments or know of any similar
projects, or if you want to join in the fun as an educator or developer!

Best regards,
Leo Huckvale
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From ryan.pepper at soton.ac.uk  Tue Sep 20 04:42:15 2016
From: ryan.pepper at soton.ac.uk (Ryan Pepper)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 09:42:15 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] Educator-Developer forum
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On Tue, 20 Sep, 2016 at 9:16 AM, Leo Huckvale <leohuckvale at gmail.com> 
wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
>  At the "Adopt a Teacher/Developer" session at PyCon UK last weekend, 
> I and a couple of other developers met with a teacher who suggested 
> building a forum/portal/Q&A site for educators and developers to 
> interact. The main aims of this would be to provide somewhere:
> 
> - where educators could go and ask questions from developers (at 
> *any* level, without fear, and preferably at short notice)
> - to continue "ed-dev" dialogue from PyCon throughout the year
> - to build a community around teaching Python in schools
> 
>  It was suggested to me that this might fit somewhere under the PSF 
> mantle, and that there are already plans afoot to build an education 
> site there.
> 
>  One of our number is currently setting up an Askbot site, so we can 
> get a few developers and educators on board and see how it goes.
> 
>  Please get in touch if you have any comments or know of any similar 
> projects, or if you want to join in the fun as an educator or 
> developer!
> 
> Best regards,
> Leo Huckvale

Hi there,

Not sure if you're aware of it already (it might have been mentioned 
during the session; I wasn't at PyCon) but an organisation which might 
be of interest to you is Computing at Schools [1] which does a number 
of things like providing resources, offers courses (such as in Python) 
and which offers scholarships for people looking to move into computing 
teaching. It has a forum which anyone can sign up for and there are 
some discussions there with teachers, and it's part of the British 
Computer Society.  Nicholas Tollervey who posts here has some 
involvement as he organised some Python training for the micro:bit for 
computing school teachers through their network earlier in the year.

[1] https://www.computingatschool.org.uk

Best wishes,

Ryan Pepper
PhD Student
Centre for Doctoral Training in Next Generation Computational Modelling
University of Southampton
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From nigel.kendrick at gmail.com  Tue Sep 20 05:40:14 2016
From: nigel.kendrick at gmail.com (Nigel Kendrick)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 10:40:14 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] Educator-Developer forum
In-Reply-To: <CAKdYfxK0S_02hLnxfeK+Db--sT+XiTB5O=1ouO9SSd6mKZN5Pg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKdYfxK0S_02hLnxfeK+Db--sT+XiTB5O=1ouO9SSd6mKZN5Pg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+ziQAQE_Yh_nSo6m-Fnj64GOpsqzgLxVqxHfDzrwkkQ_U=gBw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Leo,

Count me in.

There was talk of setting up a STEM-oriented community on
https://www.stem.org.uk/ but I can't see any developments on that front
(yet?)

Nigel Kendrick
STEM Ambassador.

On 20 September 2016 at 09:16, Leo Huckvale <leohuckvale at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>  At the "Adopt a Teacher/Developer" session at PyCon UK last weekend, I
> and a couple of other developers met with a teacher who suggested building
> a forum/portal/Q&A site for educators and developers to interact. The main
> aims of this would be to provide somewhere:
>
> - where educators could go and ask questions from developers (at *any*
> level, without fear, and preferably at short notice)
> - to continue "ed-dev" dialogue from PyCon throughout the year
> - to build a community around teaching Python in schools
>
>  It was suggested to me that this might fit somewhere under the PSF
> mantle, and that there are already plans afoot to build an education site
> there.
>
>  One of our number is currently setting up an Askbot site, so we can get a
> few developers and educators on board and see how it goes.
>
>  Please get in touch if you have any comments or know of any similar
> projects, or if you want to join in the fun as an educator or developer!
>
> Best regards,
> Leo Huckvale
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> python-uk at python.org
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From ntoll at ntoll.org  Tue Sep 20 05:43:06 2016
From: ntoll at ntoll.org (Nicholas H.Tollervey)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 10:43:06 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] Educator-Developer forum
In-Reply-To: <CAKdYfxK0S_02hLnxfeK+Db--sT+XiTB5O=1ouO9SSd6mKZN5Pg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKdYfxK0S_02hLnxfeK+Db--sT+XiTB5O=1ouO9SSd6mKZN5Pg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <597d5757-5b9a-3fd9-d38f-5499b46a36b7@ntoll.org>

The Python Software Foundation is in the process of setting up a
pythonineducation.org website (or pyedu.io).

Perhaps a Slack channel would be an appropriate solution for this forum?

N.

On 20/09/16 09:16, Leo Huckvale wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
>  At the "Adopt a Teacher/Developer" session at PyCon UK last weekend, I
> and a couple of other developers met with a teacher who suggested
> building a forum/portal/Q&A site for educators and developers to
> interact. The main aims of this would be to provide somewhere:
> 
> - where educators could go and ask questions from developers (at *any*
> level, without fear, and preferably at short notice)
> - to continue "ed-dev" dialogue from PyCon throughout the year
> - to build a community around teaching Python in schools
> 
>  It was suggested to me that this might fit somewhere under the PSF
> mantle, and that there are already plans afoot to build an education
> site there.
> 
>  One of our number is currently setting up an Askbot site, so we can get
> a few developers and educators on board and see how it goes.
> 
>  Please get in touch if you have any comments or know of any similar
> projects, or if you want to join in the fun as an educator or developer!
> 
> Best regards,
> Leo Huckvale
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> python-uk mailing list
> python-uk at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
> 


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From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Tue Sep 20 05:58:39 2016
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 10:58:39 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] Educator-Developer forum
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Message-ID: <86939fec-eee4-3fdc-be5b-b64849a70787@timgolden.me.uk>

("Forum" used below to mean any technical solution for people to ask &
answer questions)

Nicholas jumped in before I could ask him what the status of the
pyedu.io initiative is. My own belief is that, for such a forum [using
whatever technical solution] to be valuable or even viable, it should
have a certain "official" backing. And it needs to have a certain quorum
of support from a core team of developers and educators.

Entirely unsurprisingly, this has come up at every year's Teacher track
at PyCon UK. I would be delighted if this year it comes about. And I'd
be more than happy to advertise and support it in any way I can. But it
risks becoming a graveyard of one-off posts or "Is anybody there...?" if
it doesn't have at least enough people to give some kind of answer.

I speak as someone who's a moderator or list owner on nearly a dozen
python.org properties, including python-list, python-win32, webmaster@
and planet at . It doesn't take a lot of time, but it does need two groups
of people (who might well overlap). A group which can "manage" the
forum, in whatever way it requires: moderating posts, confirming
accounts, dealing with administrivia. And a pool of people which is big
enough that any question can be addressed, even if by a polite brush-off
or a redirect to some more suitable resource, within a reasonable space
of time. That "big enough" doesn't actually have to be very big.

This latter group should arise naturally from the community of people
which such a forum builds up. And I'm not suggesting that any more
formal process is necessary. However, if *everyone* involved in the
forum is a drive-by questioneer, then more questions will be asked than
answered and the forum will be significantly less useful.

I have no idea if this is the kind of thing planned for the
Python-in-Education site, but I personally think that having that badge
of "approval" from the PSF would help people coalesce around the
"official" forum rather than scatter in a dozen different directions.
However, I haven't been on any of the Cas forums which may be where many
teachers look or start.

TJG

On 20/09/2016 10:43, Nicholas H.Tollervey wrote:
> The Python Software Foundation is in the process of setting up a
> pythonineducation.org website (or pyedu.io).
> 
> Perhaps a Slack channel would be an appropriate solution for this forum?
> 
> N.
> 
> On 20/09/16 09:16, Leo Huckvale wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>>  At the "Adopt a Teacher/Developer" session at PyCon UK last weekend, I
>> and a couple of other developers met with a teacher who suggested
>> building a forum/portal/Q&A site for educators and developers to
>> interact. The main aims of this would be to provide somewhere:
>>
>> - where educators could go and ask questions from developers (at *any*
>> level, without fear, and preferably at short notice)
>> - to continue "ed-dev" dialogue from PyCon throughout the year
>> - to build a community around teaching Python in schools
>>
>>  It was suggested to me that this might fit somewhere under the PSF
>> mantle, and that there are already plans afoot to build an education
>> site there.
>>
>>  One of our number is currently setting up an Askbot site, so we can get
>> a few developers and educators on board and see how it goes.
>>
>>  Please get in touch if you have any comments or know of any similar
>> projects, or if you want to join in the fun as an educator or developer!
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Leo Huckvale
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> python-uk mailing list
>> python-uk at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> python-uk mailing list
> python-uk at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
> 


From dmoisset at machinalis.com  Tue Sep 20 11:33:01 2016
From: dmoisset at machinalis.com (Daniel Moisset)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 16:33:01 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] Educator-Developer forum
In-Reply-To: <CAKdYfxK0S_02hLnxfeK+Db--sT+XiTB5O=1ouO9SSd6mKZN5Pg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKdYfxK0S_02hLnxfeK+Db--sT+XiTB5O=1ouO9SSd6mKZN5Pg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALuYSZUk6=J49edD3pjZu22q2ya8cwsGTa2+2MyvR_JBZGz61A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Leo, feel free to email me when you have more details

Best,
  D.

On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 9:16 AM, Leo Huckvale <leohuckvale at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>  At the "Adopt a Teacher/Developer" session at PyCon UK last weekend, I
> and a couple of other developers met with a teacher who suggested building
> a forum/portal/Q&A site for educators and developers to interact. The main
> aims of this would be to provide somewhere:
>
> - where educators could go and ask questions from developers (at *any*
> level, without fear, and preferably at short notice)
> - to continue "ed-dev" dialogue from PyCon throughout the year
> - to build a community around teaching Python in schools
>
>  It was suggested to me that this might fit somewhere under the PSF
> mantle, and that there are already plans afoot to build an education site
> there.
>
>  One of our number is currently setting up an Askbot site, so we can get a
> few developers and educators on board and see how it goes.
>
>  Please get in touch if you have any comments or know of any similar
> projects, or if you want to join in the fun as an educator or developer!
>
> Best regards,
> Leo Huckvale
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> python-uk mailing list
> python-uk at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
>
>


-- 
Daniel F. Moisset - UK Country Manager
www.machinalis.com
Skype: @dmoisset
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From sam at adrocgroup.com  Tue Sep 20 10:05:08 2016
From: sam at adrocgroup.com (Sam Suleyman)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 14:05:08 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] AdRoc Group | Python Developer
Message-ID: <DB6PR0901MB15764867531982C9BD7A1F7FCEF70@DB6PR0901MB1576.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>

Afternoon,

Would It be possible for the below to be emailed out to the mailing list?

Python Developer

Salary: 60,000 to ?75,000 + Options + Benefits

AdRoc Group have partnered with a technology driven start-up who have raised $30M in series A funding to grow their engineering team to deliver new features and functionalities to improve their service offering for their global customer base.

They are hiring a number of Python Developers on a permanent basis to join their London HQ.

As a Python Developer you will have experience in the following:


?         Python

?         Django or Flask

?         Integrating third-party libraries and RESTful  APIs

?         TDD/BDD

?         Git for source code management

?         NoSQL, Neo4J
If you have an interest in data science or data engineering, we need to speak to you!
For full details on this and other Python Developer positions in the UK and EMEA, please e-mail your CV along with a link to your github repro and I'll be in touch within 24 hours to discuss next steps.

Kind Regards

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From walker_s at hotmail.co.uk  Fri Sep 23 11:22:57 2016
From: walker_s at hotmail.co.uk (S Walker)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 15:22:57 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] Build Something- London Python Project Nights
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(cross posted from the build something mailing list in case anyone here
is interested)

Good morning,
The next Build Something will be next Wednesday- sorry for the late
notice, just giving people a little time to recover from PyconUK!

RSVP at:
https://www.meetup.com/London-Python-Project-Nights/events/234327502/

It's the SW1 Broadway, not the East London (or any other) one.

With many thanks to BMLL Technologies Ltd, and Steve Holden, for
agreeing to provide a place for us to meet.

As a side note, Steve has said that he'll have a bunch of hardware (of
the burning-your-fingers-with-solder variety) there for anyone
interested in playing with that. If you're not sure how to get started
or worried that all you'll be able to produce is magic smoke, he has
also quite graciously said that he is willing to provide an introduction.

So, if you want to get a quick introduction to some electronics, or work
on an existing (or new) project, please come along!

Thanks,
S



From steve at holdenweb.com  Fri Sep 23 11:32:57 2016
From: steve at holdenweb.com (Steve Holden)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 16:32:57 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] Build Something- London Python Project Nights
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I might add that there shouldn't be any need to burn your hands. Most of
the connections can be made in plugboards. I might or moght not have a
soldering iron available if you REALLY want to burn your hands!

I plan to have at least a couple of Raspberry Pis, a WiPy and a micro:bit,
all of which can be persuaded to run Python, so you shouldn't need any
deeper programming knowledge than that.

At the level we'll be dealing with there isn't a lot of complexity to the
electronics, but it's nice to even get an LED to toggle on and off in
response to Python commands.

See you Wednesday evening!

regards
 Steve

Steve Holden

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 4:22 PM, S Walker <walker_s at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

> (cross posted from the build something mailing list in case anyone here
> is interested)
>
> Good morning,
> The next Build Something will be next Wednesday- sorry for the late
> notice, just giving people a little time to recover from PyconUK!
>
> RSVP at:
> https://www.meetup.com/London-Python-Project-Nights/events/234327502/
>
> It's the SW1 Broadway, not the East London (or any other) one.
>
> With many thanks to BMLL Technologies Ltd, and Steve Holden, for
> agreeing to provide a place for us to meet.
>
> As a side note, Steve has said that he'll have a bunch of hardware (of
> the burning-your-fingers-with-solder variety) there for anyone
> interested in playing with that. If you're not sure how to get started
> or worried that all you'll be able to produce is magic smoke, he has
> also quite graciously said that he is willing to provide an introduction.
>
> So, if you want to get a quick introduction to some electronics, or work
> on an existing (or new) project, please come along!
>
> Thanks,
> S
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> python-uk mailing list
> python-uk at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
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From thomas at kluyver.me.uk  Tue Sep 27 09:02:15 2016
From: thomas at kluyver.me.uk (Thomas Kluyver)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 14:02:15 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] Southampton - Robotic Sailing talk, Monday 3rd October
Message-ID: <1474981335.1335125.738405841.672F584D@webmail.messagingengine.com>

Hi all,

The next Southampton Python User Group meeting will be on Monday, with a
talk about robotic sailing:

When: 6pm, Monday 3rd October
Where: Room 1083, Nuffield Theatre (Building 6), University of
Southampton.
(Right by the university bus interchange, if you're coming on public
transport)

The speaker, Sophia Schillai, led a team from the University which
earlier this month won the small boats class of the World Robotic
Sailing Championship in Portugal.

As usual, after the talk there will be a chance to give lightning talks
- the suggested theme is robots, sensors, and code that interacts with
the physical world. If you'd like to give a brief (maximum five minutes)
talk, please let me know!

Refreshments will be provided, and we'll go to a nearby pub afterwards
for drinks and food.

Best wishes,
Thomas

-----

Sophia led a team from the University of Southampton which recently won
the World Robotic Sailing Competition (Micro Sailboat class). Come and
hear about how we used Python to make a boat sail itself, including:

- Why is it so hard to make a robot sail?
- What happened to us at the World Robotic Sailing Championship (besides
winning it)?
- Who are ROS and Brian?
- What tools did we combine to make the Black Python sail?

From a.grandi at gmail.com  Thu Sep 29 04:43:42 2016
From: a.grandi at gmail.com (a.grandi at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 09:43:42 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] Python/Django backend developer looking for the next
 challenge in London
Message-ID: <CAEfxiG1SF=3-kWtWcqsaTv0WOXhrmYj71otQN1dXp1AtCQZykA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!

Some of you already know me (from Python Dojo, PyCon etc...), for
everyone else I introduce myself.

My name is Andrea Grandi and I've been working as Python/Django
backend developer for the last 4 years of my career. I'm now looking
for my next challenge.

If your company is hiring and it's in London, you can have a look at
my CV here https://www.andreagrandi.it/curriculum/

I don't mean to be picky, but location is an important factor for me
as I currently commute from Ashford (Kent) and I will have to live
here for the next 9-10 months. I currently commute to Paddington and
it's perfectly fine (just as an example).

Also, I have a strong preference for backend only roles. My main skill
is Python (with experience of Django, Django Rest Framework and
Flask), but I wouldn't mind to pick/learn additional languages like
(in order of preference) Go or Rust. If I had to be full stack, my
perfect combination would be Python for the backend and iOS/Swift
(which I'm currently learning) for mobile development.

Last but not least: I'm not considering to work with any recruiter (of
course I'm not talking about internal recruiters) at the moment.
Please do not contact me if you work for an external recruitment
agency, thanks!

For any question, please contact me privately, thanks.

Cheers

-- 
Andrea Grandi - Software Engineer
Website: https://www.andreagrandi.it
Twitter: https://twitter.com/andreagrandi
GitHub: https://github.com/andreagrandi
PGP: 7238 74F6 886D 5994 323F 1781 8CFB 47AD C384 F0CC

From amfarrell at mit.edu  Thu Sep 29 04:54:55 2016
From: amfarrell at mit.edu (Andrew Farrell)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 09:54:55 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] Python/Django backend developer looking for the
 next challenge in London
In-Reply-To: <CAEfxiG1SF=3-kWtWcqsaTv0WOXhrmYj71otQN1dXp1AtCQZykA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEfxiG1SF=3-kWtWcqsaTv0WOXhrmYj71otQN1dXp1AtCQZykA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+y5TLZ-m-fxw7RjU9cFPrX0jJd6Q0GR0Y9M+VvKw-9iBEfBLQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!

On Thursday October 6th, my company (GoCardless) is hosting the London
Python Dojo. It is at 6:30pm at 338-346 Goswell Road, London, EC1V 7LQ,
which is 17min walking distance from Farringdon. There will be folks,
including us, who are hiring.

Cheers,

Andrew
?tel: 07578 965996??

On Thursday, September 29, 2016, a.grandi at gmail.com <a.grandi at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Some of you already know me (from Python Dojo, PyCon etc...), for
> everyone else I introduce myself.
>
> My name is Andrea Grandi and I've been working as Python/Django
> backend developer for the last 4 years of my career. I'm now looking
> for my next challenge.
>
> If your company is hiring and it's in London, you can have a look at
> my CV here https://www.andreagrandi.it/curriculum/
>
> I don't mean to be picky, but location is an important factor for me
> as I currently commute from Ashford (Kent) and I will have to live
> here for the next 9-10 months. I currently commute to Paddington and
> it's perfectly fine (just as an example).
>
> Also, I have a strong preference for backend only roles. My main skill
> is Python (with experience of Django, Django Rest Framework and
> Flask), but I wouldn't mind to pick/learn additional languages like
> (in order of preference) Go or Rust. If I had to be full stack, my
> perfect combination would be Python for the backend and iOS/Swift
> (which I'm currently learning) for mobile development.
>
> Last but not least: I'm not considering to work with any recruiter (of
> course I'm not talking about internal recruiters) at the moment.
> Please do not contact me if you work for an external recruitment
> agency, thanks!
>
> For any question, please contact me privately, thanks.
>
> Cheers
>
> --
> Andrea Grandi - Software Engineer
> Website: https://www.andreagrandi.it
> Twitter: https://twitter.com/andreagrandi
> GitHub: https://github.com/andreagrandi
> PGP: 7238 74F6 886D 5994 323F 1781 8CFB 47AD C384 F0CC
> _______________________________________________
> python-uk mailing list
> python-uk at python.org <javascript:;>
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
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From mauve at mauveweb.co.uk  Thu Sep 29 11:50:36 2016
From: mauve at mauveweb.co.uk (Daniel Pope)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 15:50:36 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] London Python Dojo - 6th October
Message-ID: <CAGAAuhN9x-+nFAFN-e5kq=Wqd67Vv_DrbHn5b5mnTneVNHcsgg@mail.gmail.com>

The next London Python dojo will be on the 6th of October, courtesy of
GoCardless
- 3rd floor, 338-346 Goswell Road, London, EC1V 7LQ. The office is
wheelchair accessible and will be serving Basilico pizza and beer.

Arrive from 6:30pm for our usual mix of pizza and beer and socialising and
hacking and silliness.

For more details, and to register for a free ticket:

https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/london-python-code-dojo-season-8-episode-2-tickets-28259114773


Hope to see you there!
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From tibs at tibsnjoan.co.uk  Thu Sep 29 15:37:51 2016
From: tibs at tibsnjoan.co.uk (Tibs)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 20:37:51 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] Next CamPUG meeting: Tue 4th Oct 2016
Message-ID: <169B434C-54A5-4D30-9BFB-A608930DF2B3@tibsnjoan.co.uk>

The next CamPUG (Cambridge Python User Group) meeting will be on Tuesday 4th October at 7pm, in the Raspberry Pi offices, top floor of 30 Station Road, CB1 2JH

Those of us who went to PyConUK will reminisce about the conference, and talk about what was especially good/interesting, and probably try to convince you that you should go next year.
I may have some slides, but we may not need them.

Afterwards, some people will undoubtedly go on to the pub.

Please note that we are now on meetup.com, at http://www.meetup.com/CamPUG/. If possible, please RSVP there for meetings so we have an idea of numbers. As an incentive, there's normally more detail about each meeting there, and you can also find out about future meetings.

Tweeting may occur at https://twitter.com/campython

Tibs