From walker_s at hotmail.co.uk Fri May 1 11:37:33 2015 From: walker_s at hotmail.co.uk (SW) Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 10:37:33 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] London Python Project Nights Message-ID: Got a project you keep meaning to work on? Love the python code dojo atmosphere? Then join us at http://london-python-project-nights.github.io/ To hear about the first session (anticipated to be on 21st May), you can join the google group linked on the above page or directly at: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!contactowner/london-python-project-nights What is London Python Project Nights? Somewhere for people comfortable with python to work on projects in a dojo-like atmosphere (socially speaking- hopefully with better code!). Meet up once a month to work on your project in a relaxed environment and perhaps share the progress with and get advice from the group. Now you can make excuses for not working on that cool idea for most of the month but still work on it at least once a month! Up to 15 people (to start with). If you're interested in sponsoring, please contact us at ldnpyprj at gmail.com. Thanks, Sandy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tibs at tibsnjoan.co.uk Fri May 1 21:06:51 2015 From: tibs at tibsnjoan.co.uk (Tony Ibbs) Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 20:06:51 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Next Cambridge meeting: Tue 5th May 2015 Message-ID: From the CamPUG google group: The next meeting will be Tuesday 5th May, 2015, 7.30pm at RealVNC (http://goo.gl/maps/ktqpS). We normally stop about 9.30pm, and go on to the pub. Meetings after that will be: ? Tuesday 2nd June ? Tuesday 7th July ? Tuesday 4th August Tibs From ntoll at ntoll.org Sat May 2 11:33:32 2015 From: ntoll at ntoll.org (Nicholas H.Tollervey) Date: Sat, 02 May 2015 10:33:32 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] UK based Pythonistas as candidates for the PSF board Message-ID: <554499EC.8000506@ntoll.org> Hey there! In case you hadn't noticed, the upcoming PSF board election has both Carrie Anne Philbin and Naomi Ceder (both UK based Pythonistas who put a lot of work into our community) as candidates. Yay and best of luck to both Carrie Anne and Naomi. If you have PSF voting rights, please remember to vote (I've just submitted mine - no prizes for guessing who I voted for)..! :-) All the best, Nicholas. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We're using Themes this year with a focus on how people are using data science in industry, we're very keen for talks on: - Tools (libraries, IDEs, hardware ? whatever feels like a tool) - FinTech and Economics - Ecommerce and AdTech - Medical and Bioinformatics - Other goodies (including Art, Open Data, Data Journalism, NGOs, Gaming, IoTs and Robotics ? but open to whatever you think is going to be interesting) We're particularly interested in stories of how Data Science is used to add real value in business, to encourage more people in the UK to try using Python for data science. Talks using natural language parsing, statistics, machine learning, visualisation, signal detection, prediction, summarisation, topic discovery - all this and more are strong encouraged. More details on my blog: http://ianozsvald.com/2015/05/02/pydatalondon-conference-2015-call-for-proposals-now-open-yay-for-june-19-21/ Cheers, Ian. -- Ian Ozsvald (A.I. researcher) ian at IanOzsvald.com http://IanOzsvald.com http://ModelInsight.io http://MorConsulting.com http://Annotate.IO http://SocialTiesApp.com http://TheScreencastingHandbook.com http://FivePoundApp.com http://twitter.com/IanOzsvald http://ShowMeDo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From theology at gmail.com Mon May 4 13:55:51 2015 From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth) Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 12:55:51 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] UK based Pythonistas as candidates for the PSF board In-Reply-To: <554499EC.8000506@ntoll.org> References: <554499EC.8000506@ntoll.org> Message-ID: Yep those two and Marc-Andre Lemburg who has done a lot for PyConUK over the years, are there any other UK/nearby candidates? I for one want to use my vote to balance the board geographically (i.e. a board compromised of not just US West Coast people, as beautiful as they all are). On 2 May 2015 at 10:33, Nicholas H.Tollervey wrote: > Hey there! > > In case you hadn't noticed, the upcoming PSF board election has both > Carrie Anne Philbin and Naomi Ceder (both UK based Pythonistas who put a > lot of work into our community) as candidates. > > Yay and best of luck to both Carrie Anne and Naomi. > > If you have PSF voting rights, please remember to vote (I've just > submitted mine - no prizes for guessing who I voted for)..! > > :-) > > All the best, > > Nicholas. > > > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > From andy at reportlab.com Mon May 4 14:02:32 2015 From: andy at reportlab.com (Andy Robinson) Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 13:02:32 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] UK based Pythonistas as candidates for the PSF board In-Reply-To: References: <554499EC.8000506@ntoll.org> Message-ID: I think Marc-Andre Lemburg he has really earned his place over the decades. He has always been polite and constructive and desires a Eurovision-style block vote! BTW I was once asked to be on the PSF board, when it was first set up, and turned it down. ReportLab was one of the earliest UK python shops and I know all the old-timers (Guido, David Ascher etc) from the earliest days. Main reason was family commitments which prevented attending events, and I have done bugger all for the community since about 2006. The good news is that kid #1 finishes exams forever in 2 weeks, and kid #2 finishes GCSEs in six weeks, at which point life gets more manageable, and I hope to get out to a lot more community events and conferences and start contributing again. So if you are really keen to have an extra nomination I wouldn't mind, but I am not going to press for it either. Andy Robinson ReportLab. On 4 May 2015 at 12:55, Zeth wrote: > Yep those two and Marc-Andre Lemburg who has done a lot for PyConUK > over the years, are there any other UK/nearby candidates? I for one > want to use my vote to balance the board geographically (i.e. a board > compromised of not just US West Coast people, as beautiful as they all > are). > > On 2 May 2015 at 10:33, Nicholas H.Tollervey wrote: >> Hey there! >> >> In case you hadn't noticed, the upcoming PSF board election has both >> Carrie Anne Philbin and Naomi Ceder (both UK based Pythonistas who put a >> lot of work into our community) as candidates. >> >> Yay and best of luck to both Carrie Anne and Naomi. >> >> If you have PSF voting rights, please remember to vote (I've just >> submitted mine - no prizes for guessing who I voted for)..! >> >> :-) >> >> All the best, >> >> Nicholas. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> python-uk mailing list >> python-uk at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk >> > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk From andy at reportlab.com Mon May 4 14:10:43 2015 From: andy at reportlab.com (Andy Robinson) Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 13:10:43 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Social auth, polling and surveys Message-ID: Hi all, Does anyone here having experience recently of building systems which used python-social-auth? We're looking at a "good cause" project to help recruit a lot of participants to a survey, ask them to ask their friends, to do a certain amount of "votey-uppey-votey-downey-likey" quickly, and analyse the data. My team has 8 years experience with Django but more usually building in-house and corporate apps. If anyone in the UK has experience of crowdsourcing, polling and so on, and could spare a little time to discuss pitfalls and lessons learned, what apps worked and what weren't worth touching etc, it would be most gratefully received. The best thing would be to email me directly (andy at reportlab dot com) and perhaps I could phone for a chat. I'm regrettably working for a chunk of today. I can't disclose the project details on an open mailing list at this time, but if it goes ahead, I will Many thanks,. Andy Robinson ReportLab +44-7725-056175 (today) From theology at gmail.com Mon May 4 22:22:05 2015 From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth) Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 21:22:05 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] UK based Pythonistas as candidates for the PSF board In-Reply-To: References: <554499EC.8000506@ntoll.org> Message-ID: On 4 May 2015 at 13:02, Andy Robinson wrote: > BTW I was once asked to be on the PSF board, when it was first set up, > and turned it down.... So if you are > really keen to have an extra nomination I wouldn't mind, but I am not > going to press for it either. Someone will have to help me here with details, but a quick reply before I forget and this thread disappears into gmail. It used to be that you needed to be a nominated and voted in to be a member of the PSF, but I think they have changed/are changing it to a system where you just sign up on a web form to become a member of the PSF. Once as a member you can run for the board of the PSF when they next open nominations, which I guess is early 2016 or something. From steve at holdenweb.com Mon May 4 22:32:29 2015 From: steve at holdenweb.com (Steve Holden) Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 13:32:29 -0700 Subject: [python-uk] UK based Pythonistas as candidates for the PSF board In-Reply-To: References: <554499EC.8000506@ntoll.org> Message-ID: <9AD44BEC-4441-455C-908E-3362E21936EA@holdenweb.com> In fact you do not need to be a PSF member to stand as a candidate for its board. To attain voting status in the PSF you foo need to do a little more than just sign up (which masks you a non-voting member). Support a working group, for example. As it happens the PSF has just cancelled the current board election with 23 candidates for 11 places due to a minor procedural irregularity, so there may be time to nominate someone else. Or there may not. We are still waiting for the practical outcome. S On May 4, 2015, at 1:22 PM, Zeth wrote: > On 4 May 2015 at 13:02, Andy Robinson wrote: >> BTW I was once asked to be on the PSF board, when it was first set up, >> and turned it down.... So if you are >> really keen to have an extra nomination I wouldn't mind, but I am not >> going to press for it either. > > Someone will have to help me here with details, but a quick reply > before I forget and this thread disappears into gmail. It used to be > that you needed to be a nominated and voted in to be a member of the > PSF, but I think they have changed/are changing it to a system where > you just sign up on a web form to become a member of the PSF. Once as > a member you can run for the board of the PSF when they next open > nominations, which I guess is early 2016 or something. > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk -- Steve Holden steve at holdenweb.com / +1 571 484 6266 / +44 113 320 2335 / @holdenweb -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From theology at gmail.com Mon May 4 22:42:08 2015 From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth) Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 21:42:08 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] UK based Pythonistas as candidates for the PSF board In-Reply-To: <9AD44BEC-4441-455C-908E-3362E21936EA@holdenweb.com> References: <554499EC.8000506@ntoll.org> <9AD44BEC-4441-455C-908E-3362E21936EA@holdenweb.com> Message-ID: On 4 May 2015 at 21:32, Steve Holden wrote: Thanks for clarifying that. Of course, another way to get involved in the Python community in the UK is to come to PyConUK (Friday 18th - Monday 21st September 2015 - http://pyconuk.org ). Sorry I couldn't resist :) From andy at reportlab.com Mon May 4 22:47:44 2015 From: andy at reportlab.com (Andy Robinson) Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 21:47:44 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] UK based Pythonistas as candidates for the PSF board In-Reply-To: References: <554499EC.8000506@ntoll.org> Message-ID: You're right, a quick google says it has all changed since my fuzzy memories of circa 2003...: https://www.python.org/psf/membership/ Not sure I want to stump up $2000 now and get on the campaign trail, I'd probably have to become an advocate for a move to Python 3, which would involve fending off bankruptcy while we try to upgrade 15 years worth of corporate apps without our clients' agreement ;-) From theology at gmail.com Tue May 5 00:37:07 2015 From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth) Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 23:37:07 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] UK based Pythonistas as candidates for the PSF board In-Reply-To: References: <554499EC.8000506@ntoll.org> Message-ID: On 4 May 2015 at 21:47, Andy Robinson wrote: > You're right, a quick google says it has all changed since my fuzzy > memories of circa 2003...: > > https://www.python.org/psf/membership/ > > Not sure I want to stump up $2000 now and get on the campaign trail, > I'd probably have to become an advocate for a move to Python 3, which > would involve fending off bankruptcy while we try to upgrade 15 years > worth of corporate apps without our clients' agreement ;-) Okay good find. So I am what they now call a fellow due to co-founding and running PyCon UK. It seems there are six routes so paying $2000 is not the only way. From akumria at acm.org Tue May 5 00:34:48 2015 From: akumria at acm.org (Anand Kumria) Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 23:34:48 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] UK based Pythonistas as candidates for the PSF board In-Reply-To: References: <554499EC.8000506@ntoll.org> Message-ID: <5547F408.6030207@acm.org> On 04/05/15 21:47, Andy Robinson wrote: > You're right, a quick google says it has all changed since my fuzzy > memories of circa 2003...: > > https://www.python.org/psf/membership/ > > Not sure I want to stump up $2000 now and get on the campaign trail, You can be a voting member, without stumping up cash. Although the process is a bit disorganised at present, hopefully the next few months see it becoming even simpler. And quicker. Anand -- ?Don?t be sad because it?s over. Smile because it happened.? ? Dr. Seuss From theology at gmail.com Tue May 5 01:52:22 2015 From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth) Date: Tue, 5 May 2015 00:52:22 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Python 3 thread 2015 edition (was Re: UK based Pythonistas as candidates for the PSF board) Message-ID: On 4 May 2015 at 21:47, Andy Robinson wrote: > I'd probably have to become an advocate for a move to Python 3, which > would involve fending off bankruptcy while we try to upgrade 15 years > worth of corporate apps without our clients' agreement ;-) If they had known that, after the best part of a decade later, the majority of commercial deployments would be still using Python 2, would they have done it differently? Practicality beats purity - a high level dynamic language never has to break upstream code; it is all interpreted and compiled into byte code anyway, so the interpreter should just accept Python 2 and Python 3 code. I think the PyPy people were talking about this as a possibility at one point. What is the Linus Torvalds saying? Something like "If you decide there is no option but to make changes that break upstream, before you go ahead, first shoot yourself". (Maybe it had swear words in it as I cannot find the exact text now.) If one does not have to support 3.1 and 3.2, and you can just jump to 3.3+, then life is much simpler as they backtracked on some of the most egregious breakages and so it is easy to have code that runs on Python 2 and 3. Python 3 is a marginally nicer language but it is one of those API breakages that doesn't immediately benefit the customer so doesn't get paid for in the short term. At least they don't break the API every version like some famous web frameworks that shall remain nameless. But none of this matters as it will all work out in the end. Your customers will eventually want something that requires a feature which does not get backported to Python 2, then they will have to pay for the code conversion. I switched my head over to Python 3 when asyncio module was added to the standard library. It was a feature compelling enough for me to switch. (Of course, that example works the other way too, since people in the community have backported it to Python 2 anyway.) I personally find adding Python 3 support to code one of those very therapeutic activities (so maybe I should add that to my freelance services I offer :) but it does require the code to be in tip top condition when you begin. If the code already gets no errors in Pylint or PEP8.py, it is fairly straightforward to support Python 3. If it has unit tests, they normally help a lot too, as long as you can easily port them to Python 3 first. Best Wishes, Zeth From ntoll at ntoll.org Tue May 12 15:05:56 2015 From: ntoll at ntoll.org (Nicholas H.Tollervey) Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 14:05:56 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] ATTENTION: PyCon UK returns! Book tickets and propose talks! Do all the things!!! Message-ID: <5551FAB4.10007@ntoll.org> Hello, World! PyCon UK 2015 is open! The conference runs between Friday 18th - Monday 21st September 2015 and will be held in Coventry (http://www.pyconuk.org/venue/). Book your tickets here: http://www.pyconuk.org/register/ The Call for Papers is Open =========================== We can't run a conference without talks, tutorials and workshops. PyCon UK is a community conference, made by people like you! All talks and workshops are given by members of the community, and we'd like to invite you to submit a proposal to present a talk or to run a workshop. Submit your talks here: http://www.pyconuk.org/programme/ Sponsorship =========== Would you or your company like to sponsor PyCon UK? PyCon UK is a hugely popular and oversubscribed conference that attracts the very best of programming talent from across the UK, Europe and elsewhere. Our conference is regularly featured in both the trade and national press. Why? Because PyCon UK is organised by the Python community for the Python community with the support of our sponsors (that's where you come in). Full details can be found here: http://www.pyconuk.org/sponsorship/ Community Tickets and Volunteers ================================ Since the early bird ticket was of no benefit to attendees or conference organisers we've scrapped it. In its place is a reduced rate "Community" ticket. By purchasing one of these limited number of tickets you will be agreeing to contribute to the conference as a volunteer (either as a session chair, stage hand, meeter and greeter or workshop wizard - we'd expect around 2 hours of your time as an appropriate contribution). If your talk is accepted for PyCon UK you will also be offered a "Community" ticket since you are also contributing to the conference. Full details can be found here: http://www.pyconuk.org/volunteer/ Conference Meal =============== The hugely popular conference meal is no longer included in the cost of the conference ticket. You'll need to buy a conference meal ticket separately. We have also had to limited the number of meal places to 150. It's a popular event, so book your place while you can. Education Track =============== Once again we have an education track. But this year it's bigger and better than ever. We will have the usual teacher's training day on Friday 18th and the kids' day on Saturday 19th. This year we'll be collaborating with both the Raspberry Pi Foundation and the Jam Packed "roadshow" to make these as brilliant, fun and, er, explosive as ever. In addition, on Friday 18th we will have a Trans*Code (http://trans-code.org/) hack-day and a Django Girls (http://djangogirls.org/) workshop. Participants in the Trans*Code and Django Girls events are eligable for a full conference ticket including the conference meal should they wish to stay the full weekend. To apply for a Trans*Code or Django Girls place please register your interest via this form: https://docs.google.com/form/d/1uoGFiJAlwg4r0WycpwdvuveaLq_fIdfU3Dq0SdBgdCQ/viewform Science Track ============= From Saturday 19th will by PyCon UK's first ever Science track for, er, scientists who use Python! It will feature tutorials, talks and collaborative coding. The tickets for this event are supported by the Software Sustainability Institute. Full details can be found here: http://www.pyconuk.org/science/ Skeleton Schedule ================= Want to know how the conference is shaping up? Take a look at the skeleton schedule for a heads up on all the stuff happening over a very busy weekend: http://www.pyconuk.org/schedule/ Code of Conduct =============== We have one (http://www.pyconuk.org/codeofconduct/) and we expect you to have read it and follow it whilst engaged with the conference. Discuss PyCon UK ================ If you want to discuss this year's conference please subscribe to the official mailing list: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyconuk John Pinner =========== On Friday evening we celebrate the life, work and friendship of John Pinner - the founder and chair of the organising committee who tragically lost his fight with cancer in the spring. We will run a bring-your-own buffet with an entrance fee of ?5. All proceeds will be donated to Cancer Research UK. See you at PyCon UK! Love and kisses, The PyCon UK Organising Pixies -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Peter has added more information to the sponsorship page: http://www.pyconuk.org/sponsorship/ Please tell your bosses, marketing and HR departments :) Best Wishes, Zeth From alistair.broomhead at gmail.com Wed May 13 23:56:11 2015 From: alistair.broomhead at gmail.com (Alistair Broomhead) Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 21:56:11 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] London Python Project Nights Message-ID: Tickets are up for next week's event: https://london-python-project-nights.eventwax.com/london-python-project-nights-s00-e00 More details at http://london-python-project-nights.github.io This is an informal event, bring your own food and drink, but more importantly bring a project, or the desire to find one! This month we'll be at Skimlinks near Old St, on Thursday 21st from 18:45, I hope to see some of you there, Al -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sorry about this - clearly I was being too impatient with EventWax, but this is something of a surprise. regards Steve On May 13, 2015, at 10:56 PM, Alistair Broomhead wrote: > Tickets are up for next week's event: https://london-python-project-nights.eventwax.com/london-python-project-nights-s00-e00 > > More details at http://london-python-project-nights.github.io > > This is an informal event, bring your own food and drink, but more importantly bring a project, or the desire to find one! > > This month we'll be at Skimlinks near Old St, on Thursday 21st from 18:45, I hope to see some of you there, > > Al > > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk -- Steve Holden steve at holdenweb.com / +1 571 484 6266 / +44 113 320 2335 / @holdenweb -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, I'm afraid this is the wrong place ... here we share ideas ... not jobs. erika On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 11:18 AM, a.grandi at gmail.com wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I am currently looking for a job as Python/Django backend developer in > London (I also consider remote working). > > My main technical skill is using Python/Django (in particular Django > Rest Framework) to implement RESTful APIs and to integrate with third > party API services. > > You can find more about my skills and past experiences here > http://www.andreagrandi.it/curriculum/ > In case anyone is interested, please reply in private. > > Thank you so much for your attention and I hope I didn't disturb > anyone with this message. > > Cheers. > > -- > Andrea Grandi - Software Engineer > Website: http://www.andreagrandi.it > Twitter: https://twitter.com/andreagrandi > GitHub: https://github.com/andreagrandi > PGP: 7238 74F6 886D 5994 323F 1781 8CFB 47AD C384 F0CC > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 26 May 2015 at 12:55, Erika Pellegrino wrote: > Hi, > I'm afraid this is the wrong place ... here we share ideas ... not jobs. > > erika > > On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 11:18 AM, a.grandi at gmail.com > wrote: >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> I am currently looking for a job as Python/Django backend developer in >> London (I also consider remote working). >> >> My main technical skill is using Python/Django (in particular Django >> Rest Framework) to implement RESTful APIs and to integrate with third >> party API services. >> >> You can find more about my skills and past experiences here >> http://www.andreagrandi.it/curriculum/ >> In case anyone is interested, please reply in private. >> >> Thank you so much for your attention and I hope I didn't disturb >> anyone with this message. >> >> Cheers. >> >> -- >> Andrea Grandi - Software Engineer >> Website: http://www.andreagrandi.it >> Twitter: https://twitter.com/andreagrandi >> GitHub: https://github.com/andreagrandi >> PGP: 7238 74F6 886D 5994 323F 1781 8CFB 47AD C384 F0CC >> _______________________________________________ >> python-uk mailing list >> python-uk at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > > -- Andrea Grandi - Software Engineer Website: http://www.andreagrandi.it Twitter: https://twitter.com/andreagrandi GitHub: https://github.com/andreagrandi PGP: 7238 74F6 886D 5994 323F 1781 8CFB 47AD C384 F0CC From peter.inglesby at gmail.com Tue May 26 14:13:19 2015 From: peter.inglesby at gmail.com (Peter Inglesby) Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 13:13:19 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Anyone needs a Python/Django backend developer in London? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think this is a great place for people (particularly people like Andrea, who's an active contributor to the UK Python community) to share that they're looking for work. It's certainly been used for that in the past, and I don't think Andrea needs to apologise for anything. On 26 May 2015 at 13:00, a.grandi at gmail.com wrote: > Hi Erika, > > I'm sorry if you think my message was off topic, but I first searched > in the old messages before posting and I found this > https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-uk/2014-March/003293.html > Unless the rules have changed in the mean time, it looks like people > were happy to see these kind of messages. > > Again, if I disturbed anyone, sorry. > > Cheers. > > > On 26 May 2015 at 12:55, Erika Pellegrino wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm afraid this is the wrong place ... here we share ideas ... not jobs. > > > > erika > > > > On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 11:18 AM, a.grandi at gmail.com > > > wrote: > >> > >> Hi everyone, > >> > >> I am currently looking for a job as Python/Django backend developer in > >> London (I also consider remote working). > >> > >> My main technical skill is using Python/Django (in particular Django > >> Rest Framework) to implement RESTful APIs and to integrate with third > >> party API services. > >> > >> You can find more about my skills and past experiences here > >> http://www.andreagrandi.it/curriculum/ > >> In case anyone is interested, please reply in private. > >> > >> Thank you so much for your attention and I hope I didn't disturb > >> anyone with this message. > >> > >> Cheers. > >> > >> -- > >> Andrea Grandi - Software Engineer > >> Website: http://www.andreagrandi.it > >> Twitter: https://twitter.com/andreagrandi > >> GitHub: https://github.com/andreagrandi > >> PGP: 7238 74F6 886D 5994 323F 1781 8CFB 47AD C384 F0CC > >> _______________________________________________ > >> python-uk mailing list > >> python-uk at python.org > >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > > > > > > > > -- > Andrea Grandi - Software Engineer > Website: http://www.andreagrandi.it > Twitter: https://twitter.com/andreagrandi > GitHub: https://github.com/andreagrandi > PGP: 7238 74F6 886D 5994 323F 1781 8CFB 47AD C384 F0CC > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mail at timgolden.me.uk Tue May 26 14:38:55 2015 From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden) Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 13:38:55 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Anyone needs a Python/Django backend developer in London? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5564695F.1010707@timgolden.me.uk> You're fine. This has come up a few times before (including the occasion you refer to) and we always end up pointing to the info page: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk where it explicitly refers to "jobs wanted or sought". And there's a world of difference between an individual or even a suitably-focused company posting a specific job enquiry, and a clueless recruiter posting "Earn $$$s for ninja programers". TJG On 26/05/2015 13:00, a.grandi at gmail.com wrote: > Hi Erika, > > I'm sorry if you think my message was off topic, but I first searched > in the old messages before posting and I found this > https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-uk/2014-March/003293.html > Unless the rules have changed in the mean time, it looks like people > were happy to see these kind of messages. > > Again, if I disturbed anyone, sorry. > > Cheers. > > > On 26 May 2015 at 12:55, Erika Pellegrino wrote: >> Hi, >> I'm afraid this is the wrong place ... here we share ideas ... not jobs. >> >> erika >> >> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 11:18 AM, a.grandi at gmail.com >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> I am currently looking for a job as Python/Django backend developer in >>> London (I also consider remote working). >>> >>> My main technical skill is using Python/Django (in particular Django >>> Rest Framework) to implement RESTful APIs and to integrate with third >>> party API services. >>> >>> You can find more about my skills and past experiences here >>> http://www.andreagrandi.it/curriculum/ >>> In case anyone is interested, please reply in private. >>> >>> Thank you so much for your attention and I hope I didn't disturb >>> anyone with this message. >>> >>> Cheers. >>> >>> -- >>> Andrea Grandi - Software Engineer >>> Website: http://www.andreagrandi.it >>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/andreagrandi >>> GitHub: https://github.com/andreagrandi >>> PGP: 7238 74F6 886D 5994 323F 1781 8CFB 47AD C384 F0CC >>> _______________________________________________ >>> python-uk mailing list >>> python-uk at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk >> >> > > > From ntoll at ntoll.org Tue May 26 16:33:04 2015 From: ntoll at ntoll.org (Nicholas H.Tollervey) Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 15:33:04 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Anyone needs a Python/Django backend developer in London? In-Reply-To: <5564695F.1010707@timgolden.me.uk> References: <5564695F.1010707@timgolden.me.uk> Message-ID: <55648420.8080101@ntoll.org> What Tim and Peter say is very much the case. Clueless job agents looking for Ninjas shouldn't look here, Andrea most definitely should! On that note, quick, hire him! He's awesome! ;-) N. On 26/05/15 13:38, Tim Golden wrote: > You're fine. This has come up a few times before (including the occasion > you refer to) and we always end up pointing to the info page: > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > > where it explicitly refers to "jobs wanted or sought". > > And there's a world of difference between an individual or even a > suitably-focused company posting a specific job enquiry, and a clueless > recruiter posting "Earn $$$s for ninja programers". > > TJG > > On 26/05/2015 13:00, a.grandi at gmail.com wrote: >> Hi Erika, >> >> I'm sorry if you think my message was off topic, but I first searched >> in the old messages before posting and I found this >> https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-uk/2014-March/003293.html >> Unless the rules have changed in the mean time, it looks like people >> were happy to see these kind of messages. >> >> Again, if I disturbed anyone, sorry. >> >> Cheers. >> >> >> On 26 May 2015 at 12:55, Erika Pellegrino wrote: >>> Hi, >>> I'm afraid this is the wrong place ... here we share ideas ... not jobs. >>> >>> erika >>> >>> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 11:18 AM, a.grandi at gmail.com >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> I am currently looking for a job as Python/Django backend developer in >>>> London (I also consider remote working). >>>> >>>> My main technical skill is using Python/Django (in particular Django >>>> Rest Framework) to implement RESTful APIs and to integrate with third >>>> party API services. >>>> >>>> You can find more about my skills and past experiences here >>>> http://www.andreagrandi.it/curriculum/ >>>> In case anyone is interested, please reply in private. >>>> >>>> Thank you so much for your attention and I hope I didn't disturb >>>> anyone with this message. >>>> >>>> Cheers. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Andrea Grandi - Software Engineer >>>> Website: http://www.andreagrandi.it >>>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/andreagrandi >>>> GitHub: https://github.com/andreagrandi >>>> PGP: 7238 74F6 886D 5994 323F 1781 8CFB 47AD C384 F0CC >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> python-uk mailing list >>>> python-uk at python.org >>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk >>> >>> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 473 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From walker_s at hotmail.co.uk Tue May 26 16:42:46 2015 From: walker_s at hotmail.co.uk (SW) Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 15:42:46 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Anyone needs a Python/Django backend developer in London? In-Reply-To: <55648420.8080101@ntoll.org> References: <5564695F.1010707@timgolden.me.uk> <55648420.8080101@ntoll.org> Message-ID: I'm not sure anyone should want to hire a ninja unless they like deceptive and potentially fatal code. Slightly more on-topic, I can't hire him (I'm freelancing at the moment) but I've made inquiries. S On 26/05/15 15:33, Nicholas H.Tollervey wrote: > What Tim and Peter say is very much the case. Clueless job agents > looking for Ninjas shouldn't look here, Andrea most definitely should! > > On that note, quick, hire him! He's awesome! > > ;-) > > N. > > From wave at chrisadams.me.uk Wed May 27 11:55:43 2015 From: wave at chrisadams.me.uk (Chris Adams) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 11:55:43 +0200 Subject: [python-uk] Transifex experiences - did it save enough time to justify the cost? Message-ID: <1432720543.2939688.279189257.2127F2DB@webmail.messagingengine.com> Hi all, I'm looking after a Django site and I'm looking for a less painful way to manage translations of both the content and some parts of the UI that users see in the templates. Is Transifex the main game in town for doing this these days, if you want to manage the workflow without shunting spreadsheets around all day? Best to assume noone else in the organisation has heard of Github, let alone knows what a pull request is. And can anyone on the list share where using it has turned out to be a more difficult experience than they were expecting? >From what I can see on the site it look ideal, almost too good to be true... Thanks, Chris From konrad at korzel.com Wed May 27 12:04:15 2015 From: konrad at korzel.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Konrad_Kor=C5=BCel?=) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 11:04:15 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Transifex experiences - did it save enough time to justify the cost? In-Reply-To: <1432720543.2939688.279189257.2127F2DB@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1432720543.2939688.279189257.2127F2DB@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: Rosetta is a fine django app that makes translations easier, it uses the admin interface for it. On 27 May 2015 at 10:55, Chris Adams wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm looking after a Django site and I'm looking for a less painful way > to manage translations of both the content and some parts of the UI that > users see in the templates. > > Is Transifex the main game in town for doing this these days, if you > want to manage the workflow without shunting spreadsheets around all > day? Best to assume noone else in the organisation has heard of Github, > let alone knows what a pull request is. > > And can anyone on the list share where using it has turned out to be a > more difficult experience than they were expecting? > > From what I can see on the site it look ideal, almost too good to be > true... > > Thanks, > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From erika.job8 at gmail.com Wed May 27 12:42:05 2015 From: erika.job8 at gmail.com (Erika Pellegrino) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 11:42:05 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] opendreamkit project Message-ID: Hi, I'd like to share with all members this interesting project ... mainly involving scientists http://opendreamkit.org/ erika -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rjnienaber at gmail.com Wed May 27 16:08:32 2015 From: rjnienaber at gmail.com (Richard Nienaber) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 07:08:32 -0700 Subject: [python-uk] Transifex experiences - did it save enough time to justify the cost? In-Reply-To: References: <1432720543.2939688.279189257.2127F2DB@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: I've come across crowdin.com but I haven't had a need to use it yet. Richard On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 3:04 AM, Konrad Kor?el wrote: > Rosetta is a fine django app that > makes translations easier, it uses the admin interface for it. > > On 27 May 2015 at 10:55, Chris Adams wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I'm looking after a Django site and I'm looking for a less painful way >> to manage translations of both the content and some parts of the UI that >> users see in the templates. >> >> Is Transifex the main game in town for doing this these days, if you >> want to manage the workflow without shunting spreadsheets around all >> day? Best to assume noone else in the organisation has heard of Github, >> let alone knows what a pull request is. >> >> And can anyone on the list share where using it has turned out to be a >> more difficult experience than they were expecting? >> >> From what I can see on the site it look ideal, almost too good to be >> true... >> >> Thanks, >> >> Chris >> _______________________________________________ >> python-uk mailing list >> python-uk at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk >> > > > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rabbbit at gmail.com Thu May 28 03:57:56 2015 From: rabbbit at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Pawe=C5=82_Kr=C3=B3likowski?=) Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 09:57:56 +0800 Subject: [python-uk] Transifex experiences - did it save enough time to justify the cost? In-Reply-To: References: <1432720543.2939688.279189257.2127F2DB@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: Hi Chris, I've worked in a project that used transifex. I wasn't personally involved, but I can share what I overheard over lunch: - it worked pretty well, translation management/interface was really cool. We used the transifex provided external translators and it worked pretty cool too. - we had some troubles with translations and branches: AFAIK transifex doesn't support that, so you were only able to push translations from a single branch (otherwise they could get overridden, or disappear) - that slowed down the releases/merging. Other guys were still trying to work around it though, so there might be a solution. In short, translations were still a pain, so don't expect miracles. But transifex definitely helped in some parts of the process. And we didn't find a better solution. Hope that helps ;), Pawel On May 27, 2015 22:08, "Richard Nienaber" wrote: > I've come across crowdin.com but I haven't had a need to use it yet. > > Richard > > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 3:04 AM, Konrad Kor?el wrote: > >> Rosetta is a fine django app >> that makes translations easier, it uses the admin interface for it. >> >> On 27 May 2015 at 10:55, Chris Adams wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I'm looking after a Django site and I'm looking for a less painful way >>> to manage translations of both the content and some parts of the UI that >>> users see in the templates. >>> >>> Is Transifex the main game in town for doing this these days, if you >>> want to manage the workflow without shunting spreadsheets around all >>> day? 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URL: From richard at arbee-design.co.uk Thu May 28 08:52:59 2015 From: richard at arbee-design.co.uk (Richard Barran) Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 08:52:59 +0200 Subject: [python-uk] Transifex experiences - did it save enough time to justify the cost? In-Reply-To: References: <1432720543.2939688.279189257.2127F2DB@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <084F5159-08D5-4882-80F6-E632B4CA71F1@arbee-design.co.uk> I?ve used Transifex on several projects, and so far it?s worked well. As Pawel says, it doesn?t play well with version control and branching; when you send translation .po files to Transifex, it overwrites *everything* already there, so there is a real potential for losing work. In a similar way to what Pawel does, we only push to Transifex from our staging/beta branch. Furthermore, we use Fabric and we?ve wrapped into a single command: - pull down translation files from Transifex. - compile to .mo files. - extract new translatable strings from the source code. - send the .po files to Transifex. As long as no-one is translating *at that very moment*, we?re safe. Overall, it?s very much worth the (low) cost, as it provides a nice UI for non-technical translators to work with: .po files are not user-friendly! Big warning: Transifex is only for translating the .po files, i.e. the hard-coded text strings in the templates and in the python source. For translating the *content*, i.e. what?s managed in the admin, you?ll need a different tool. At the place where I?m working we?ve used dango-hvad on several projects. Quite frankly, it?s a pain, it adds a *lot* to development time, and it?s the source of a large number of weird bugs in our codebase. However - we have reviewed other apps, and so far our conclusion is (to use a famous quote) ?django-hvad is the worst django content translations app, except all those other django content translations apps that have been tried from time to time.? Hope to help, Richard > On 28 May 2015, at 03:57, Pawe? Kr?likowski wrote: > > Hi Chris, > > I've worked in a project that used transifex. I wasn't personally involved, but I can share what I overheard over lunch: > - it worked pretty well, translation management/interface was really cool. We used the transifex provided external translators and it worked pretty cool too. > - we had some troubles with translations and branches: AFAIK transifex doesn't support that, so you were only able to push translations from a single branch (otherwise they could get overridden, or disappear) - that slowed down the releases/merging. Other guys were still trying to work around it though, so there might be a solution. > > In short, translations were still a pain, so don't expect miracles. But transifex definitely helped in some parts of the process. And we didn't find a better solution. > > Hope that helps ;), > > Pawel > > On May 27, 2015 22:08, "Richard Nienaber" > wrote: > I've come across crowdin.com but I haven't had a need to use it yet. > > Richard > > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 3:04 AM, Konrad Kor?el > wrote: > Rosetta is a fine django app that makes translations easier, it uses the admin interface for it. > > On 27 May 2015 at 10:55, Chris Adams > wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm looking after a Django site and I'm looking for a less painful way > to manage translations of both the content and some parts of the UI that > users see in the templates. > > Is Transifex the main game in town for doing this these days, if you > want to manage the workflow without shunting spreadsheets around all > day? 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