From rachid.belaid at gmail.com Mon Jun 3 15:26:39 2013 From: rachid.belaid at gmail.com (Rachid Belaid) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 14:26:39 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Second London Pyramid Meetup In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, We got the final list of talks for tomorrow Pyramid meetup. http://www.meetup.com/The-London-Pyramid-Group/events/119944802/ I?m glad to announce we'll be welcoming *Armin Ronacher, *the creator of Flask and Jinja, who?ll be talking about SQLAlchemy. SQLAlchemy is the suggested ORM with Pyramid. Even though Pyramid is an ORM agnostic framework, it's difficult to build complex Pyramid applications with a relational database without using it. The two Pyramid talks will be accessible for a newcomers. If you've never used SQLAlchemy then please come join us, it's bound to be an eye opener. Talks : - *Test your Pyramid Application* by James Cooke *"I've knocked together a testing strategy for Pyramid apps that focuses on Integration and Doctests, with some BDD thrown in. I'll be sharing this, plus some of the gotchas I've found while working on Pyramid apps. Feel free to bring your Pyramid testing strategy to share." * - *Why SQLAlchemy is awesome* by Armin Ronacher *"A quick diving into SQLAlchemy with some interesting usecase patterns that make it fun to use."* - *Pyramid Authorization and Authentication Policy *by Rach Belaid *"Attempt to bring some lights on how to use the powerful authentication and authorization system provided by Pyramid"* Cheers On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Rachid Belaid wrote: > Hello, > > Thank you to everyone who came to the first Pyramid meetup. > > This month we'd like continue sharing and learning about Pyramid with > some fresh talks, and we are also prepared to welcome any newcomers! > > The next meetup will be on *Tuesday, June 4, 2013*: > http://www.meetup.com/The-London-Pyramid-Group/events/119944802/ > > We are still looking for at least one more speaker so let me know if > you would be interested to do a talk about a Pyramid related subject: > Pyramid, Pylons, SQLAlchemy, Beaker/DogPile (cache/session) ... > > There's no need to already be a pyramid user to join us. If you're > interested in this framework, need to get started or simply curious > about a framework you've never heard about then of course you are > welcome to join us. > Rach > > *Previous Meetup slides: * > *View Lookup*: http://www.slideshare.net/rachbelaid/pyramid-views-20820325 > *Routing and traversal*: > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5469585/PyramidLondon-Routing.pdf > > -- > Rach Belaid > @rachbelaid > > -- Rach Belaid Flat 9 240B Amhurst Road, London N16 7UL Phone : +44 75 008 660 84 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From harry.percival at gmail.com Wed Jun 5 09:54:01 2013 From: harry.percival at gmail.com (Harry Percival) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 08:54:01 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Suggestions / best practices for deployment In-Reply-To: References: <048D92DC-F16B-4836-88B9-94E85D2FF4E6@gmail.com> <51964118.4040402@egenix.com> <1369045053.2123.28.camel@oberto> Message-ID: Hi everyone, thanks for all your suggestions. I've been beavering away, and I've got a first draft of the chapter on deployment ready. I'd love your feedback! You can find it at http://chimera.labs.oreilly.com/books/1234000000754/ch08.html Here's a broad outline of what I decided to go for: Provisioning: * Ubuntu server (at Digital Ocean, if you must know) * Nginx as reverse proxy * Gunicorn as django server, launched via upstart * Staging and live served as separate virtualhosts * Not automated, but templates for nginx + upstart config are in repo Deployment: * Use git clone / git pull, with git reset --hard * manage.py collectstatic to update static files, and manage.py syncdb (south comes later) * Virtualenv updates via requirements.txt in repo * automated using fabric Testing: * a hideous hack of the Django LiveServerTestCase to let us run FTs against the staging site * a specific FT that checks that the CSS works (cf previous chapter) * no unit tests for the fabric script (although I have had a good think about them, may include them in an appendix) I've tried to find a balance between keeping things simple -- it's a very small site, and I can bring in more stuff, eg south, later in the book -- and trying to set people off on a reasonably solid course, that won't leave them with too many pitfalls later. It's my first draft, and it would doubtless be improved immensely by your feedback. Let me have it! You'll find a couple of notes + todos at the end.. cheers all, and thanks again for your help! HP PS here's another link to where you can buy the book if, you know, you get a sudden urge ;-) http://www.obeythetestinggoat.com/ On 20 May 2013 21:23, John Lee wrote: > On Mon, 20 May 2013, Andy Robinson wrote: > > be run in a live web app. For example, for an online purchase >> process, you might have a selenium test which steps right through a >> purchase using a known "only for tests" account or credit card number. >> > [...] > > I don't know what this kind of testing is called though ;-) >> > > Expensive?-) > > > John > > ______________________________**_________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/python-uk > -- ------------------------------ Harry J.W. Percival ------------------------------ Twitter: @hjwp Mobile: +44 (0) 78877 02511 Skype: harry.percival -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sal at stodge.org Fri Jun 7 02:07:17 2013 From: sal at stodge.org (Salim Fadhley) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 01:07:17 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Photos from the Python Dojo @ Bank of America Message-ID: https://plus.google.com/u/1/photos/106787463903193769812/albums/5886522053645083105 Please tag anybody you know! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ntoll at ntoll.org Fri Jun 7 07:40:41 2013 From: ntoll at ntoll.org (Nicholas H.Tollervey) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2013 06:40:41 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Photos from the Python Dojo @ Bank of America In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51B17259.1080207@ntoll.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Sal, Many thanks to you for being point man on the ground with the organisation of this month's dojo. Bank of America were excellent hosts and I think it's great to see companies supporting and "giving back" (as your boss put it) to the Python community. Best wishes, Nicholas. On 07/06/13 01:07, Salim Fadhley wrote: > https://plus.google.com/u/1/photos/106787463903193769812/albums/5886522053645083105 > > Please tag anybody you know! > > > _______________________________________________ python-uk mailing > list python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRsXJWAAoJEP0qBPaYQbb6jYkH/1bihX84BRscJ+HMEX+Xsihw gz/+XxXeyDJWh5Y8zvGwKO7CbtXcoQHl3v+b/QFlkR0cBKI7ALOAQaQCpeiE6ieX kI8HGHoRJb5utQdC5/S22Lg4pYGhm2O1TMNxRO3AQ8FisRlBu30NrT4/YB4N4Jvq pQ/mfY9rw8iXCZ4Xq/0NI0+D5H4Qz9ueaNRzwpeVO4IAXyNHv34XhqdmMQCSyHGr zsOrrSQsZ+/dDNN1X5sKXTkpMXMLfajtaEXe3zERptoULDx40EhOMLARJGV1Gw18 tUC+LUz8DcUGBoyzJxvZL6UX+AeC7QO5H6zwYt6HBXMRexZU+VWLw2aSho2HgSU= =/XHl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From a.grandi at gmail.com Fri Jun 7 07:48:59 2013 From: a.grandi at gmail.com (a.grandi at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 06:48:59 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Photos from the Python Dojo @ Bank of America In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Guys! Many thanks to you all. It was my first dojo and it was amazing :) Sorry if I had to run around 21:30 but I was really tired and asleep (for this reason I also wasn't very helpful during the coding :( ). I think I will come back the next time! See you soon :) On 7 June 2013 01:07, Salim Fadhley wrote: > https://plus.google.com/u/1/photos/106787463903193769812/albums/5886522053645083105 > > Please tag anybody you know! > > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > -- Andrea Grandi - Software Engineer / Qt Ambassador / Nokia Developer Champion Ubuntu Member: https://launchpad.net/~andreagrandi website: http://www.andreagrandi.it From mail at timgolden.me.uk Fri Jun 7 09:14:38 2013 From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2013 08:14:38 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Photos from the Python Dojo @ Bank of America In-Reply-To: <51B17259.1080207@ntoll.org> References: <51B17259.1080207@ntoll.org> Message-ID: <51B1885E.3020603@timgolden.me.uk> On 07/06/2013 06:40, Nicholas H.Tollervey wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Sal, > > Many thanks to you for being point man on the ground with the > organisation of this month's dojo. Bank of America were excellent > hosts and I think it's great to see companies supporting and "giving > back" (as your boss put it) to the Python community. +1 TJG From lord.mauve at gmail.com Fri Jun 7 10:55:10 2013 From: lord.mauve at gmail.com (Daniel Pope) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 09:55:10 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Steganography Code In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Our team's code from last night's London Python Dojo (HTML Steganography) is on Bitbucket at https://bitbucket.org/akhare/html-steganography -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ntoll at ntoll.org Fri Jun 7 11:02:07 2013 From: ntoll at ntoll.org (Nicholas H.Tollervey) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2013 10:02:07 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Steganography Code In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51B1A18F.1060907@ntoll.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/06/13 09:55, Daniel Pope wrote: > Our team's code from last night's London Python Dojo (HTML > Steganography) is on Bitbucket at > > https://bitbucket.org/akhare/html-steganography > > > > _______________________________________________ python-uk mailing > list python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > There is a ldnpydojo github repos you can push it to... ;-) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRsaGPAAoJEP0qBPaYQbb6qegH/3wn/t7Ys4QyzkXgUEVr+htq 1fBUVWsnKdGjRKmBqaPmTXFM3RzOk81svYC04VO4QJbSi4DVaH2za3gtr6imUPzy MNqdxj6uXAaV2e2XXcHIopPP7z3mZzxdCGdtkTb0xXBKiDdB6fXeDoJmo0qgP72P n95fxHVbXrmC27fGI5djnS+kjeMbeYcmQvrIn+2blgiqOtrUhsLBX/U1YfkKU7MP iHaLBi7ioFNtQ6xyg92FcscM+kPiIO5z3C6X2ufvdxxGwWtnEOXqO/cXVKk2y25g Wj1sGfiWVFGkOXVidaHT2HsmwDzomf+yeQMnmfZ1HAcu2c3rQ1OqzHrIDsCyBrE= =28VN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mail at timgolden.me.uk Mon Jun 10 16:37:37 2013 From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 15:37:37 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Planet London Python Message-ID: <51B5E4B1.1090008@timgolden.me.uk> At his request, I've just added Harry Percival's "Obey the Testing Goat" blog to the London Python aggregator at http://londonpython.org.uk. So those of you who felt you weren't getting enough of Harry's shameless self-promotion (his words) can now feed your need even further. Joking aside, if anyone wants to be added to Planet London Python, drop me a line with an RSS/Atom feed. I keep meaning to add / re-add some kind of calendar widget which shows the various Python-related Dojos and meetups going on around London. Maybe this time I'll get around to it. TJG From david at deadpansincerity.com Mon Jun 10 16:57:29 2013 From: david at deadpansincerity.com (David Miller) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 15:57:29 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Planet London Python In-Reply-To: <51B5E4B1.1090008@timgolden.me.uk> References: <51B5E4B1.1090008@timgolden.me.uk> Message-ID: On 10 June 2013 15:37, Tim Golden wrote: > some kind of calendar widget which shows the various Python-related Dojos > and > meetups going on around London. Maybe this time I'll get around to it. > Something that dropped such things into my google calendar like say these folks' [1] calendar feed would be pretty useful... Other calendar products are available etc [1] http://dc4420.org/ -- Love regards etc David Miller http://www.deadpansincerity.com 07854 880 883 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whykay at python.ie Mon Jun 10 17:50:28 2013 From: whykay at python.ie (Vicky Lee - Python Ireland) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 16:50:28 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Can you help me? Message-ID: Hi All, Sorry, this is not really Python-related, but I thought this might be a good way to get in touch with the organisers of various (Python) events and meetups in London. Do you have recommendations regarding catering for events in London? And what do people generally order, e.g. sandwiches, bag lunch, pizzas, tea/coffee, etc? 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At the moment I'm just trying to generate some ideas that will be presented to our management next week. There's no requirement other than the project should be beneficial to or help grow the Python community. All suggestions welcome! By the way, there are at least 2 of our roles currently advertised on the Python.org jobs board. I know they are both current, so do check them out if that sort of thing interests you. Sal ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This message, and any attachments, is for the intended recipient(s) only, may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or proprietary and subject to important terms and conditions available at http://www.bankofamerica.com/emaildisclaimer. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ntoll at ntoll.org Tue Jun 11 14:53:53 2013 From: ntoll at ntoll.org (Nicholas H.Tollervey) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 13:53:53 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Opportunties for community engagement In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51B71DE1.6080607@ntoll.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Becoming a sponsor of PyconUK in September is an obvious no-brainer. More details will be available soon - John Pinner (chair of the organising committee) is on this list and *may* have more to say about that. For BAML you'd get lots of exposure to UK based Pythonistas. John..? There's also Europython. N. On 11/06/13 13:48, Fadhley, Salim wrote: > The company I work for (Bank of America) is looking to become a > more active member of the Python community. Those of you who > attended this month?s Python Dojo at our Canary Wharf offices will > have seen our first efforts at giving-back to Python. > > > > A manager has asked me to report back with some ideas about other > things we might do, for example we might host meet-ups, help fund > Python Foundation initiatives, sponsor conferences or important > open-source projects. > > > > At the moment I?m just trying to generate some ideas that will be > presented to our management next week. There?s no requirement other > than the project should be beneficial to or help grow the Python > community. > > > > All suggestions welcome! > > > > By the way, there are at least 2 of our roles currently advertised > on the Python.org jobs board. I know they are both current, so do > check them out if that sort of thing interests you. > > > > Sal > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > This message, and any attachments, is for the intended recipient(s) > only, may contain information that is privileged, confidential > and/or proprietary and subject to important terms and conditions > available at http://www.bankofamerica.com/emaildisclaimer. If you > are not the intended recipient, please delete this message. > > > _______________________________________________ python-uk mailing > list python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > b -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRtx3hAAoJEP0qBPaYQbb6TyMH/iYI6qUWhlJNaFJovuqrT+oD HSh5bVrPIX8ir1tcGP1fstLXy3YE05Y8jE2D3zddtNUBZfcPwuFt05b8jvcFaZ6l GuFjek8L6murhTWOqRMGXHHXPZsWsRh3+exWlnXunZ2fO9ryaWHRpYF+lUAUegGu rOHX4ZPBNFLJG9yihXsO6DmIyjuP8W6MRHU540TcXsERi67KEEsKfUiFVcvjn8XC wWCMpiuyNJnqkUyoGa2UGsIqk4YU3LnWjTQFFTE/5+xNdLLvfIR+OMPsWBPsnd1D BPFKUOicRp7XsEPaLBPLZRqlYl5VoqcpsRmUjZZaShfRks1XwDG4w1mcFInHHwk= =1wO3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From renesd at gmail.com Tue Jun 11 15:50:24 2013 From: renesd at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Dudfield?=) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:50:24 +0200 Subject: [python-uk] Opportunties for community engagement In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, pygame could use some sponsorship... ;) All we ask is you jiggle the Libor rate around a bit when we ask. That should keep us funded for the next 10,000 years. In exchange we will do anything... and I mean ANY... THING*1! Just kidding. *1 anything!!!!!!!!! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From russel at winder.org.uk Sat Jun 15 20:07:29 2013 From: russel at winder.org.uk (Russel Winder) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 19:07:29 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Opportunties for community engagement In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1371319649.15376.50.camel@launcelot.winder.org.uk> Sal, On Tue, 2013-06-11 at 12:48 +0000, Fadhley, Salim wrote: > The company I work for (Bank of America) is looking to become a more > active member of the Python community. Those of you who attended this > month's Python Dojo at our Canary Wharf offices will have seen our > first efforts at giving-back to Python. I think it is great that an for-profit organization that has Python at the centre of its computing strategy is willing and wanting to "give back" into the community of the FOSS platform it is using. I just wish some more of the for-profit organization using Python as a strategic resource took the same view. (OK banks other than BAML, I know who you are.) > A manager has asked me to report back with some ideas about other > things we might do, for example we might host meet-ups, help fund > Python Foundation initiatives, sponsor conferences or important > open-source projects. > > At the moment I'm just trying to generate some ideas that will be > presented to our management next week. There's no requirement other > than the project should be beneficial to or help grow the Python > community. > > All suggestions welcome! As ever, I pitch the PyPy Python 3 project as something well worthy of contributing cash or RPython programming time to, and also the PyPy STM project. Getting PyPy Python 3 compliant and removing its GIL are, for me, the joint Number 1 things in the Python universe to get support for. [?] -- Russel. ============================================================================= Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 voip: sip:russel.winder at ekiga.net 41 Buckmaster Road m: +44 7770 465 077 xmpp: russel at winder.org.uk London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk skype: russel_winder -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From dave.snowdon at gmail.com Sun Jun 23 18:54:39 2013 From: dave.snowdon at gmail.com (Dave Snowdon) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 17:54:39 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] London 2013 NAO robot hackathon, 30th August - 1st September Message-ID: Hi folks Registration is now open for the London 2013 NAO robot hackathon. More details and registration here: http://nao-hackathon-2013.eventbrite.com/ When: 6pm Friday 30th August to 6pm Sunday 1st September Where: Queen Mary University London, Mile End Road, London E1 4NS You don't need to have a NAO robot to take part. Attendees will be given access to the choreographe development environment and NAO simulator and you'll have the chance to run your code on a real robot also. Although it's possible to program NAO using only the graphical environment or use Java or .NET bindings the main language for NAO development is python. All developers who attend will also get a free limited edition event t-shirt and free food will be provided for the Friday social and throughout the event. You can find out more about NAO by visiting the Aldebaran Robotics website: http://www.aldebaran-robotics.com/en/ The hackathon is organized by UK NAO the UK NAO user group and sponsored by Queen Mary University London and Aldebaran Robotics. cheers Dave -- Dave Snowdon twitter: @davesnowdon web: http://www.davesnowdon.com & http://about.me/dave.snowdon/ [image: nao-developer] Member of the NAO Developer Program -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 781 bytes Desc: not available URL: From feasty at gmail.com Mon Jun 24 17:52:51 2013 From: feasty at gmail.com (Mark East) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 16:52:51 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Next Reading Python Dojo is on Tuesday 2nd July Message-ID: Good afternoon my Python friends, The next Reading Python Dojo will be on Tuesday 2nd July. You can get your free tickets here: http://rdgpydojo.eventwax.com/reading-python-dojo-july-2013 If you need any more information then please contact rpd at piprogramming.org. You can also follow on Twitter: @rdgpydojo Hope to see you there. Cheers, Mark -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tibs at tibsnjoan.co.uk Mon Jun 24 20:42:46 2013 From: tibs at tibsnjoan.co.uk (Tony Ibbs) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 19:42:46 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Next Cambridge meeting Message-ID: The next meeting of the Cambridge (and East Anglia) Python User Group (CamPUG) will be Tuesday 2nd July, 7.30pm at RealVNC (http://tinyurl.com/realvncoffices). We normally stop about 9.30pm, and go on to the pub. This will be a talks meeting. As always, offers of talks will be welcome before or at the meeting. Meetings after that should be: ? Tuesday 6th August, a doing stuff meeting ? Tuesday 3rd September, another talks meeting ? Tuesday 1st October, another doing stuff meeting Tibs From a.cavallo at cavallinux.eu Wed Jun 26 11:48:05 2013 From: a.cavallo at cavallinux.eu (a.cavallo at cavallinux.eu) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 11:48:05 +0200 Subject: [python-uk] Reading list Message-ID: <37d850cc3f3bb1ce003ab3f534e46714@cavallinux.eu> Hi, I'm looking for an introductory book in python: do you have any suggestion? I'm shortlisting few so far: Python 2.6 Text Processing: Beginners Guide (Jeff McNeil): https://www.packtpub.com/python-2-6-text-processing-beginners-guide/book Head First Python (Paul Barry): http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920003434.do The Quick Python Book (Naomi R. Ceder): http://www.manning.com/ceder/ Volent Python (TJ O'Connor): http://www.amazon.co.uk/Violent-Python-TJ-OConnor/dp/1597499579/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1372239422&sr=8-10&keywords=python Programming Python (Mark Lutz): http://www.amazon.co.uk/Programming-Python-Mark-Lutz/dp/0596158106/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1372239456&sr=8-8&keywords=python Python Programming for the Absolute Beginner (Mike Dawson): http://www.amazon.co.uk/Python-Programming-Absolute-Beginner-Dawson/dp/1435455002/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1372239604&sr=1-1&keywords=python All they seem reasonable reading for starters, but I wonder if there's something else around that can be effective in bringing skilled developers (C/C++) into the python side. Thanks From rachid.belaid at gmail.com Wed Jun 26 11:59:27 2013 From: rachid.belaid at gmail.com (Rachid Belaid) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 10:59:27 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Reading list In-Reply-To: <37d850cc3f3bb1ce003ab3f534e46714@cavallinux.eu> References: <37d850cc3f3bb1ce003ab3f534e46714@cavallinux.eu> Message-ID: Learn Python the hard way http://learnpythonthehardway.org/ On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 10:48 AM, wrote: > Hi, > I'm looking for an introductory book in python: do you have any suggestion? > > I'm shortlisting few so far: > > Python 2.6 Text Processing: Beginners Guide (Jeff McNeil): > https://www.packtpub.com/**python-2-6-text-processing-** > beginners-guide/book > > Head First Python (Paul Barry): > http://shop.oreilly.com/**product/0636920003434.do > > The Quick Python Book (Naomi R. Ceder): > http://www.manning.com/ceder/ > > Volent Python (TJ O'Connor): > http://www.amazon.co.uk/**Violent-Python-TJ-OConnor/dp/** > 1597499579/ref=sr_1_10?ie=**UTF8&qid=1372239422&sr=8-10&**keywords=python > > Programming Python (Mark Lutz): > http://www.amazon.co.uk/**Programming-Python-Mark-Lutz/** > dp/0596158106/ref=sr_1_8?ie=**UTF8&qid=1372239456&sr=8-8&**keywords=python > > Python Programming for the Absolute Beginner (Mike Dawson): > http://www.amazon.co.uk/**Python-Programming-Absolute-** > Beginner-Dawson/dp/1435455002/**ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&** > qid=1372239604&sr=1-1&**keywords=python > > > All they seem reasonable reading for starters, but I wonder if there's > something else around that can be effective in bringing skilled developers > (C/C++) into the python side. > > Thanks > ______________________________**_________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/python-uk > -- Rach Belaid Flat 9 240B Amhurst Road, London N16 7UL Phone : +44 75 008 660 84 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tartley at tartley.com Wed Jun 26 12:07:22 2013 From: tartley at tartley.com (Jonathan Hartley) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 11:07:22 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Reading list In-Reply-To: References: <37d850cc3f3bb1ce003ab3f534e46714@cavallinux.eu> Message-ID: <51CABD5A.5050709@tartley.com> Dive into Python: http://www.diveintopython.net/ Dive into Python 3: http://www.diveinto.org/python3/ Both of these, along with Learn Python the Hard way, are suitable for beginner programmers. I'm don't know of anything better for people who are already experienced programmers in other languages. On 26/06/13 10:59, Rachid Belaid wrote: > Learn Python the hard way > > http://learnpythonthehardway.org/ > > > On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 10:48 AM, > wrote: > > Hi, > I'm looking for an introductory book in python: do you have any > suggestion? > > I'm shortlisting few so far: > > Python 2.6 Text Processing: Beginners Guide (Jeff McNeil): > https://www.packtpub.com/python-2-6-text-processing-beginners-guide/book > > Head First Python (Paul Barry): > http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920003434.do > > The Quick Python Book (Naomi R. Ceder): > http://www.manning.com/ceder/ > > Volent Python (TJ O'Connor): > http://www.amazon.co.uk/Violent-Python-TJ-OConnor/dp/1597499579/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1372239422&sr=8-10&keywords=python > > Programming Python (Mark Lutz): > http://www.amazon.co.uk/Programming-Python-Mark-Lutz/dp/0596158106/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1372239456&sr=8-8&keywords=python > > Python Programming for the Absolute Beginner (Mike Dawson): > http://www.amazon.co.uk/Python-Programming-Absolute-Beginner-Dawson/dp/1435455002/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1372239604&sr=1-1&keywords=python > > > All they seem reasonable reading for starters, but I wonder if > there's something else around that can be effective in bringing > skilled developers (C/C++) into the python side. > > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > > > > > -- > Rach Belaid > Flat 9 240B Amhurst Road, London N16 7UL > Phone : +44 75 008 660 84 > > > > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk -- Jonathan Hartley tartley at tartley.com http://tartley.com Made of meat. +44 7737 062 225 twitter/skype: tartley -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk Wed Jun 26 12:02:02 2013 From: david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk (David Reynolds) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 11:02:02 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Reading list In-Reply-To: <37d850cc3f3bb1ce003ab3f534e46714@cavallinux.eu> References: <37d850cc3f3bb1ce003ab3f534e46714@cavallinux.eu> Message-ID: I still like Dive into Python (http://www.diveintopython.net) On 26 Jun 2013, at 10:48, a.cavallo at cavallinux.eu wrote: > Hi, > I'm looking for an introductory book in python: do you have any suggestion? > > I'm shortlisting few so far: > > Python 2.6 Text Processing: Beginners Guide (Jeff McNeil): > https://www.packtpub.com/python-2-6-text-processing-beginners-guide/book > > Head First Python (Paul Barry): > http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920003434.do > > The Quick Python Book (Naomi R. Ceder): > http://www.manning.com/ceder/ > > Volent Python (TJ O'Connor): > http://www.amazon.co.uk/Violent-Python-TJ-OConnor/dp/1597499579/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1372239422&sr=8-10&keywords=python > > Programming Python (Mark Lutz): > http://www.amazon.co.uk/Programming-Python-Mark-Lutz/dp/0596158106/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1372239456&sr=8-8&keywords=python > > Python Programming for the Absolute Beginner (Mike Dawson): > http://www.amazon.co.uk/Python-Programming-Absolute-Beginner-Dawson/dp/1435455002/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1372239604&sr=1-1&keywords=python > > > All they seem reasonable reading for starters, but I wonder if there's something else around that can be effective in bringing skilled developers (C/C++) into the python side. > > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk -- David Reynolds david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk From list at qtrac.plus.com Wed Jun 26 12:19:52 2013 From: list at qtrac.plus.com (Mark Summerfield) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 11:19:52 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Reading list In-Reply-To: <37d850cc3f3bb1ce003ab3f534e46714@cavallinux.eu> References: <37d850cc3f3bb1ce003ab3f534e46714@cavallinux.eu> Message-ID: <20130626111952.35a8e6de@dino.qtrac> On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 11:48:05 +0200 a.cavallo at cavallinux.eu wrote: > Hi, > I'm looking for an introductory book in python: do you have any > suggestion? [snip] > All they seem reasonable reading for starters, but I wonder if there's > something else around that can be effective in bringing skilled > developers (C/C++) into the python side. My book, "Programming in Python 3" http://www.qtrac.eu/py3book.html is aimed at people who can already program. Good luck:-) -- Mark Summerfield, Qtrac Ltd, www.qtrac.eu C++, Python, Qt, PyQt - training and consultancy "Python in Practice" - ISBN 978-0321905635 http://www.qtrac.eu/pipbook.html From benmarshallcorser at gmail.com Wed Jun 26 12:27:56 2013 From: benmarshallcorser at gmail.com (Ben Marshall-Corser) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 11:27:56 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] python-uk Digest, Vol 118, Issue 9 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Cheers Rach, that looks good. This is not quite so pretty, but if anyone is looking for an introduction starting at a very basic level, go for http://www.diveintopython.net/ On 26 June 2013 11:00, wrote: > Send python-uk mailing list submissions to > python-uk at python.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > python-uk-request at python.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > python-uk-owner at python.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of python-uk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Reading list (a.cavallo at cavallinux.eu) > 2. Re: Reading list (Rachid Belaid) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 11:48:05 +0200 > From: a.cavallo at cavallinux.eu > To: > Subject: [python-uk] Reading list > Message-ID: <37d850cc3f3bb1ce003ab3f534e46714 at cavallinux.eu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Hi, > I'm looking for an introductory book in python: do you have any > suggestion? > > I'm shortlisting few so far: > > Python 2.6 Text Processing: Beginners Guide (Jeff McNeil): > > https://www.packtpub.com/python-2-6-text-processing-beginners-guide/book > > Head First Python (Paul Barry): > http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920003434.do > > The Quick Python Book (Naomi R. Ceder): > http://www.manning.com/ceder/ > > Volent Python (TJ O'Connor): > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/Violent-Python-TJ-OConnor/dp/1597499579/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1372239422&sr=8-10&keywords=python > > Programming Python (Mark Lutz): > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/Programming-Python-Mark-Lutz/dp/0596158106/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1372239456&sr=8-8&keywords=python > > Python Programming for the Absolute Beginner (Mike Dawson): > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/Python-Programming-Absolute-Beginner-Dawson/dp/1435455002/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1372239604&sr=1-1&keywords=python > > > All they seem reasonable reading for starters, but I wonder if there's > something else around that can be effective in bringing skilled > developers (C/C++) into the python side. > > Thanks > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 10:59:27 +0100 > From: Rachid Belaid > To: UK Python Users > Subject: Re: [python-uk] Reading list > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Learn Python the hard way > > http://learnpythonthehardway.org/ > > > On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 10:48 AM, wrote: > >> Hi, >> I'm looking for an introductory book in python: do you have any suggestion? >> >> I'm shortlisting few so far: >> >> Python 2.6 Text Processing: Beginners Guide (Jeff McNeil): >> https://www.packtpub.com/**python-2-6-text-processing-** >> beginners-guide/book >> >> Head First Python (Paul Barry): >> http://shop.oreilly.com/**product/0636920003434.do >> >> The Quick Python Book (Naomi R. Ceder): >> http://www.manning.com/ceder/ >> >> Volent Python (TJ O'Connor): >> http://www.amazon.co.uk/**Violent-Python-TJ-OConnor/dp/** >> 1597499579/ref=sr_1_10?ie=**UTF8&qid=1372239422&sr=8-10&**keywords=python >> >> Programming Python (Mark Lutz): >> http://www.amazon.co.uk/**Programming-Python-Mark-Lutz/** >> dp/0596158106/ref=sr_1_8?ie=**UTF8&qid=1372239456&sr=8-8&**keywords=python >> >> Python Programming for the Absolute Beginner (Mike Dawson): >> http://www.amazon.co.uk/**Python-Programming-Absolute-** >> Beginner-Dawson/dp/1435455002/**ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&** >> qid=1372239604&sr=1-1&**keywords=python >> >> >> All they seem reasonable reading for starters, but I wonder if there's >> something else around that can be effective in bringing skilled developers >> (C/C++) into the python side. >> >> Thanks >> ______________________________**_________________ >> python-uk mailing list >> python-uk at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/python-uk >> > > > > -- > Rach Belaid > Flat 9 240B Amhurst Road, London N16 7UL > Phone : +44 75 008 660 84 > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > > > ------------------------------ > > End of python-uk Digest, Vol 118, Issue 9 > ***************************************** From harry.percival at gmail.com Wed Jun 26 13:00:15 2013 From: harry.percival at gmail.com (Harry Percival) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 12:00:15 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Reading list In-Reply-To: <20130626111952.35a8e6de@dino.qtrac> References: <37d850cc3f3bb1ce003ab3f534e46714@cavallinux.eu> <20130626111952.35a8e6de@dino.qtrac> Message-ID: +1 for Dive Into Python. Of course, if you wanted to learn about TDD in Python, then I'd have to recommend "The Goat Book". Because I'm writing it. http://www.obeythetestinggoat.com/ On 26 June 2013 11:19, Mark Summerfield wrote: > On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 11:48:05 +0200 > a.cavallo at cavallinux.eu wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm looking for an introductory book in python: do you have any > > suggestion? > [snip] > > All they seem reasonable reading for starters, but I wonder if there's > > something else around that can be effective in bringing skilled > > developers (C/C++) into the python side. > > My book, "Programming in Python 3" http://www.qtrac.eu/py3book.html > is aimed at people who can already program. > > Good luck:-) > > -- > Mark Summerfield, Qtrac Ltd, www.qtrac.eu > C++, Python, Qt, PyQt - training and consultancy > "Python in Practice" - ISBN 978-0321905635 > http://www.qtrac.eu/pipbook.html > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > -- ------------------------------ Harry J.W. Percival ------------------------------ Twitter: @hjwp Mobile: +44 (0) 78877 02511 Skype: harry.percival -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sparks.m at gmail.com Wed Jun 26 13:25:02 2013 From: sparks.m at gmail.com (Michael) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 12:25:02 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Reading list In-Reply-To: <37d850cc3f3bb1ce003ab3f534e46714@cavallinux.eu> References: <37d850cc3f3bb1ce003ab3f534e46714@cavallinux.eu> Message-ID: Hi, When I came across python I'd been coding for a long time in a variety of languages. Because Learning Perl had been a good book for learning perl, I bought Learning Python. Hated it. Put me off python for years. Came back to learn it again, and read through "How to think like a computer scientist using python". It was brief enough to skip through rapidly in contexts I already understood and go from a standing start in python to something useful in a couple of days. I've recommended it to others since. Beyond that Practical Python by Magnus Lie Hetland is a good book, and is divided into two parts that are essentially "learn the language" and "see it in use in projects". The second part I feel is more useful to experienced developers, even though the projects are of course by the nature of book form toys. I don't know what the revamped version (Beginning Python) by the same author is like. I don't use either any more unsurprisingly! Michael. On 26 June 2013 10:48, wrote: > Hi, > I'm looking for an introductory book in python: do you have any suggestion? > > I'm shortlisting few so far: > > Python 2.6 Text Processing: Beginners Guide (Jeff McNeil): > https://www.packtpub.com/**python-2-6-text-processing-** > beginners-guide/book > > Head First Python (Paul Barry): > http://shop.oreilly.com/**product/0636920003434.do > > The Quick Python Book (Naomi R. Ceder): > http://www.manning.com/ceder/ > > Volent Python (TJ O'Connor): > http://www.amazon.co.uk/**Violent-Python-TJ-OConnor/dp/** > 1597499579/ref=sr_1_10?ie=**UTF8&qid=1372239422&sr=8-10&**keywords=python > > Programming Python (Mark Lutz): > http://www.amazon.co.uk/**Programming-Python-Mark-Lutz/** > dp/0596158106/ref=sr_1_8?ie=**UTF8&qid=1372239456&sr=8-8&**keywords=python > > Python Programming for the Absolute Beginner (Mike Dawson): > http://www.amazon.co.uk/**Python-Programming-Absolute-** > Beginner-Dawson/dp/1435455002/**ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&** > qid=1372239604&sr=1-1&**keywords=python > > > All they seem reasonable reading for starters, but I wonder if there's > something else around that can be effective in bringing skilled developers > (C/C++) into the python side. > > Thanks > ______________________________**_________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/python-uk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nick at nivan.net Wed Jun 26 13:47:31 2013 From: nick at nivan.net (Nick Murdoch) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 12:47:31 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Reading list In-Reply-To: <37d850cc3f3bb1ce003ab3f534e46714@cavallinux.eu> References: <37d850cc3f3bb1ce003ab3f534e46714@cavallinux.eu> Message-ID: <20130626114729.GA1814@femputer> The official Python tutorial itself is pretty great. I learned the language (fresh out of Uni having studied Java) solely from it: http://docs.python.org/2/tutorial/ For completely beginner programmers it perhaps skips over a few things that wouldn't be obvious, but for experienced coders I don't see any problem with it. Cheers, Nick On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 11:48:05AM +0200, a.cavallo at cavallinux.eu wrote: > Hi, > I'm looking for an introductory book in python: do you have any > suggestion? > > I'm shortlisting few so far: > > Python 2.6 Text Processing: Beginners Guide (Jeff McNeil): > https://www.packtpub.com/python-2-6-text-processing-beginners-guide/book > > Head First Python (Paul Barry): > http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920003434.do > > The Quick Python Book (Naomi R. Ceder): > http://www.manning.com/ceder/ > > Volent Python (TJ O'Connor): > http://www.amazon.co.uk/Violent-Python-TJ-OConnor/dp/1597499579/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1372239422&sr=8-10&keywords=python > > Programming Python (Mark Lutz): > http://www.amazon.co.uk/Programming-Python-Mark-Lutz/dp/0596158106/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1372239456&sr=8-8&keywords=python > > Python Programming for the Absolute Beginner (Mike Dawson): > http://www.amazon.co.uk/Python-Programming-Absolute-Beginner-Dawson/dp/1435455002/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1372239604&sr=1-1&keywords=python > > > All they seem reasonable reading for starters, but I wonder if > there's something else around that can be effective in bringing > skilled developers (C/C++) into the python side. > > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk From renesd at gmail.com Wed Jun 26 14:06:59 2013 From: renesd at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Dudfield?=) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 14:06:59 +0200 Subject: [python-uk] Reading list In-Reply-To: <51CABD5A.5050709@tartley.com> References: <37d850cc3f3bb1ce003ab3f534e46714@cavallinux.eu> <51CABD5A.5050709@tartley.com> Message-ID: all good book suggestions... However, is fancy book learning the best method to learn? I always suggest people "Work on Projects" if their plan is to: 1. get out of the bedroom and work on projects. 2. work with other people on projects. 3. build connections to get paid work with python. 4. have something at the end to show as evidence of python skills. Yes, it is harder than paying for a book, then maybe reading it. Other than working on your own project, other activities you can do: - pyweek.org - go to london python dojo, meet people, and work with them on mini projects. - try and fix an issue in python projects you already use. - write mini tutorials or blog posts on how to do something specific with python. - if you must pay for something... consider training. - join a 'sprint' some open source project is doing, and pair program with some people there. Did Daniel from Karate Kid get far by learning Karate from a book? ciao, On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Jonathan Hartley wrote: > Dive into Python: > http://www.diveintopython.net/ > > Dive into Python 3: > http://www.diveinto.org/python3/ > > Both of these, along with Learn Python the Hard way, are suitable for > beginner programmers. I'm don't know of anything better for people who are > already experienced programmers in other languages. > > > > > On 26/06/13 10:59, Rachid Belaid wrote: > > Learn Python the hard way > > http://learnpythonthehardway.org/ > > > On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 10:48 AM, wrote: > >> Hi, >> I'm looking for an introductory book in python: do you have any >> suggestion? >> >> I'm shortlisting few so far: >> >> Python 2.6 Text Processing: Beginners Guide (Jeff McNeil): >> >> https://www.packtpub.com/python-2-6-text-processing-beginners-guide/book >> >> Head First Python (Paul Barry): >> http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920003434.do >> >> The Quick Python Book (Naomi R. Ceder): >> http://www.manning.com/ceder/ >> >> Volent Python (TJ O'Connor): >> >> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Violent-Python-TJ-OConnor/dp/1597499579/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1372239422&sr=8-10&keywords=python >> >> Programming Python (Mark Lutz): >> >> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Programming-Python-Mark-Lutz/dp/0596158106/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1372239456&sr=8-8&keywords=python >> >> Python Programming for the Absolute Beginner (Mike Dawson): >> >> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Python-Programming-Absolute-Beginner-Dawson/dp/1435455002/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1372239604&sr=1-1&keywords=python >> >> >> All they seem reasonable reading for starters, but I wonder if there's >> something else around that can be effective in bringing skilled developers >> (C/C++) into the python side. >> >> Thanks >> _______________________________________________ >> python-uk mailing list >> python-uk at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk >> > > > > -- > Rach Belaid > Flat 9 240B Amhurst Road, London N16 7UL > Phone : +44 75 008 660 84 > > > > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing listpython-uk at python.orghttp://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > > > > -- > Jonathan Hartley tartley at tartley.com http://tartley.com > Made of meat. +44 7737 062 225 twitter/skype: tartley > > > > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From a.cavallo at cavallinux.eu Wed Jun 26 14:25:42 2013 From: a.cavallo at cavallinux.eu (a.cavallo at cavallinux.eu) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 14:25:42 +0200 Subject: [python-uk] Reading list In-Reply-To: References: <37d850cc3f3bb1ce003ab3f534e46714@cavallinux.eu> <51CABD5A.5050709@tartley.com> Message-ID: <462bac4fa0ae29641909484eb50aeb9c@cavallinux.eu> > However, is fancy book learning the best method to learn?? Probably not but it is the "average" method: it is tried and tested. "Work on Projects" would be kind of ideal but requires at least some skill already. I'm aware of Dive into python and it's gold but I'm focusing more on the real beginners (in python) here. > * if you must pay for something... consider training. That's definitively on the table just not yet where it wouldn't be so much effective ;) Tonight I'll be doing the reading and see what it could be sort of ideal first book for experienced developers approaching python. Thanks all From tim at red56.co.uk Wed Jun 26 14:34:53 2013 From: tim at red56.co.uk (Tim Diggins) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 13:34:53 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Reading list In-Reply-To: References: <37d850cc3f3bb1ce003ab3f534e46714@cavallinux.eu> <51CABD5A.5050709@tartley.com> Message-ID: > > > However, is fancy book learning the best method to learn? > > only recommended method if learning in the bath / on the beach ;-) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andy at reportlab.com Wed Jun 26 15:43:17 2013 From: andy at reportlab.com (Andy Robinson) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 14:43:17 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Reading list In-Reply-To: References: <37d850cc3f3bb1ce003ab3f534e46714@cavallinux.eu> <51CABD5A.5050709@tartley.com> Message-ID: I have learned a surprising amount on the beach over the years. Usually I muddle through some technology during the rest of the year picking up bits and pieces, then read a book end to end on the beach and actually have time to grasp the fundamentals and a lot of best practices, and I think "why didn't I do that sooner?". I would suggest 1. Read the official Python tutorial. It's as good as many books, and free. 2. Google's Python class. A few hours of structured exercises, gets you doing something. 3. Set yourself a problem or project using a popular library. If you're interested in web development, you might want to work through the Django tutorial. If you deal with servers, write something to parse log files and do some interesting stats. If you just want Python on your CV, use ReportLab's library to generate a CV in PDF. You will probably be over the hump in a very small number of evenings. On 26 June 2013 13:34, Tim Diggins wrote: >> >> However, is fancy book learning the best method to learn? >> > only recommended method if learning in the bath / on the beach ;-) > > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > -- Andy Robinson Managing Director ReportLab Europe Ltd. Thornton House, Thornton Road, Wimbledon, London SW19 4NG, UK Tel +44-20-8405-6420 From james.browne at gmail.com Wed Jun 26 16:05:49 2013 From: james.browne at gmail.com (James Browne) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 15:05:49 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Reading list In-Reply-To: References: <37d850cc3f3bb1ce003ab3f534e46714@cavallinux.eu> <51CABD5A.5050709@tartley.com> Message-ID: I found these Python koans, a port of a similar project in Ruby, useful in finding out the basics of Python for the first time. You edit the code to make the tests pass and it teaches you syntax etc on the way. Doesn't take too long to work through. https://github.com/gregmalcolm/python_koans Cheers, James Browne On Wednesday, 26 June 2013, Andy Robinson wrote: > I have learned a surprising amount on the beach over the years. > Usually I muddle through some technology during the rest of the year > picking up bits and pieces, then read a book end to end on the beach > and actually have time to grasp the fundamentals and a lot of best > practices, and I think "why didn't I do that sooner?". > > I would suggest > 1. Read the official Python tutorial. It's as good as many books, and > free. > 2. Google's Python class. A few hours of structured exercises, gets > you doing something. > 3. Set yourself a problem or project using a popular library. If > you're interested in web development, you might want to work through > the Django tutorial. If you deal with servers, write something to > parse log files and do some interesting stats. If you just want > Python on your CV, use ReportLab's library to generate a CV in PDF. > > You will probably be over the hump in a very small number of evenings. > > > On 26 June 2013 13:34, Tim Diggins > wrote: > >> > >> However, is fancy book learning the best method to learn? > >> > > only recommended method if learning in the bath / on the beach ;-) > > > > _______________________________________________ > > python-uk mailing list > > python-uk at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > > > > > > -- > Andy Robinson > Managing Director > ReportLab Europe Ltd. > Thornton House, Thornton Road, Wimbledon, London SW19 4NG, UK > Tel +44-20-8405-6420 > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > -- James Browne james.browne at gmail.com 07779 804 426 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dan at pitchup.com Thu Jun 27 17:02:18 2013 From: dan at pitchup.com (Dan Yates) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 16:02:18 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Award-winning camping site seeking Python developers Message-ID: Hi everyone, We're looking for Python developers (one senior, one more junior) at our start-up in Chiswick, http://www.pitchup.com - we sell pitches at around 600 campsites. The site has been going for almost four years and, assuming the sun comes out, we're expecting about 1m users/month over the summer, before pushing into new markets during the autumn/winter. Our small team of developers work mainly in Python and Django, achieving multiple awards and great reviews for ease of use and speed http://www.reviewcentre.com/Travel-Agents/Pitchup-com-www-pitchup-com-reviews_1369575 . Behind the scenes we've built some pretty nice features to help campsite owners manage their vacancies and encourage them to sign up. Pitchup.com was cited at the recent W3C/ODI/OKF Open Data on the Web event http://www.w3.org/2013/04/odw/ : we're aiming to go beyond the typical travel site by integrating POIs like public transport, tourist attractions and pubs. We were also among the early users of Twitter's recently-launched product cards and autocomplete. We're looking for a couple of people to work on things like payments, international expansion, testing and personalisation, mobile and geo (backend stack is Python / Django / Postgres / Celery / nginx / S3). The business is profitable and was founded in 2009 by former lastminute.com staff with a background in the holiday park sector. We're regularly featured in the national press, and our lively, friendly team is based at the Barley Mow Centre off Chiswick High Road in west London. Please drop me a line if you're interested in more information, or apply at http://www.pitchup.com/jobs . *Requirements* * Expert in Python, with knowledge of at least one Python web framework (ideally Django) * Good PostgreSQL experience * Very strong JavaScript skills * Familiarity with Linux server environments * Willingness to undertake sysadmin work * Some remote working is possible, and some on-call evenings and weekends will be required See our Stack Overflow page for office and team pics: http://careers.stackoverflow.com/company/pitchup-com/ . *Contact info* * Apply: http://www.pitchup.com/jobs * Telephone: 0208 123 4450 * No full-time telecommuting * No headhunters! -- Daniel Yates Managing Director, Pitchup.com 0208 123 4450 Winner, Best UK Travel Website of the Year, British Travel Press Awards 2011 From salim.fadhley at baml.com Fri Jun 28 11:10:45 2013 From: salim.fadhley at baml.com (Fadhley, Salim) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 09:10:45 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] PyCon UK organizers? Message-ID: Is anybody on this list a PyconUK organizer? Does anybody know if PyCon UK is in need of a corporate sponsor this year? (Not saying that's going to be us but I thought it would be interesting to pitch the idea at a manager who is into that sort of thing). Have I left things much too late? If you happen to be a PyCon organizer can you email me directly? Sal ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This message, and any attachments, is for the intended recipient(s) only, may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or proprietary and subject to important terms and conditions available at http://www.bankofamerica.com/emaildisclaimer. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gadgetsteve at hotmail.com Fri Jun 28 18:28:16 2013 From: gadgetsteve at hotmail.com (Steve Barnes) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 17:28:16 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] PyCon UK organizers? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 28/06/13 10:10, Fadhley, Salim wrote: > > Is anybody on this list a PyconUK organizer? Does anybody know if > PyCon UK is in need of a corporate sponsor this year? (Not saying > that's going to be us but I thought it would be interesting to pitch > the idea at a manager who is into that sort of thing). Have I left > things much too late? > > If you happen to be a PyCon organizer can you email me directly? > > Sal > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This message, and any attachments, is for the intended recipient(s) > only, may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or > proprietary and subject to important terms and conditions available at > http://www.bankofamerica.com/emaildisclaimer. If you are not the > intended recipient, please delete this message. > > > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk I believe that Richard Taylor, http://pyconuk.net/RichardTaylor or you could try pyconuk-adm -AT- python -DOT- org for a good starting point. Gadget/Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: