[python-uk] The London Python Dojo is this Thursday

Jonathan Hartley tartley at tartley.com
Mon Jul 15 14:40:42 CEST 2013


I guess that makes sense: With the dojo we want to encourage 
participation, whereas with the game challenges I was thinking of, they 
are optimised to producing finished, working projects (where a proven 
track record is a good positive indicator.)

     Jonathan


On 15/07/13 13:33, Stestagg wrote:
> I wonder, with the dojo happening every month, and most people turning 
> up most times, if this might turn into a bit of a popularity contest.
>
> If a leader won last time, then people will be more likely to go for 
> the 'safe option' and join that person next time.
>
> I do like the current method of having random team choices
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 1:14 PM, René Dudfield <renesd at gmail.com 
> <mailto:renesd at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     That could work with a theme... the goal doesn't have to be a
>     game?   It's more inventing the problem as you go?
>
>     Unrelated thought for a good exercise... new requirements are
>     introduced at half time... and then 5 minutes before the end...
>     like real life.
>
>     On Jul 15, 2013 2:05 PM, "Jonathan Hartley" <tartley at tartley.com
>     <mailto:tartley at tartley.com>> wrote:
>
>         I don't think this helps, but it's a model I think is
>         otherwise widely applicable, so I'll spread the seed:
>
>         One model I've seen work well on game programming challenges
>         is that self-selected leaders will each pitch their project
>         vision, and then participants will decide which leader's team
>         they would like to join. Leaders may also prefer other pitches
>         to their own, and decide to revoke or merge pitches
>         (generally, only one leader in a merged pitch will retain the
>         'leader' tag)
>
>         This has advantages that:
>
>         * self-selected leaders are vetted by the crowd. If they are
>         revealed, during their pitch, to be blustering buffoons, then
>         people can vote with their feet.
>
>         * everyone gets to work with the project/leadership that they
>         choose, so in theory happiness is maximised (for everyone
>         apart from the 'failed' project leaders.)
>
>         * projects which are popular are allocated correspondingly
>         generous personpower.
>
>         The disadvantages are:
>
>         * It isn't remotely relevant to our current dojo format
>
>         * It doesn't give even distribution of team sizes
>
>             Jonathan
>
>
>
>         On 12/07/13 20:53, xtian wrote:
>>         I like the sound of this - Scrapheap Challenge style. You're
>>         right, it would take a bit more organisation though.
>>
>>         On 12 Jul 2013, at 14:31, Alistair Broomhead
>>         <alistair.broomhead at gmail.com
>>         <mailto:alistair.broomhead at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>>         Something that may may not work (I guess it would take a
>>>         fair amount of organisation) once a challenge has been
>>>         picked, we ask people to volunteer as team leaders, they get
>>>         a git repo set up and write tests, but their main role is to
>>>         advise their team and give them a nudge on things which are
>>>         stopping them from progressing. This would mean that each
>>>         team has an 'expert', but I guess it would also mean people
>>>         who were willing to take this role would have to bring a
>>>         laptop off their own -an issue for me as I don't own one...
>>>
>>>         On 12 Jul 2013 14:19, "Javier Llopis" <javier at correo.com
>>>         <mailto:javier at correo.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>             >> Another person could simply say: mmm... interesting
>>>             but... not for my
>>>             >> level. And stop coming. Do you really want this?
>>>             >
>>>             > When all's said and done, if someone doesn't think
>>>             it's for them, then
>>>             > it's not for them. We can try to be as accommodating
>>>             as possible, but
>>>             > you can't please all the people all the time.
>>>             >
>>>
>>>             ...And in this case, I would rather try to keep the
>>>             expert coders in
>>>             instead of the newbies. Better be challenged than bored.
>>>
>>>             Just my 2p
>>>
>>>             J
>>>
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