From gautier at fry-it.com Fri Feb 1 09:31:41 2013 From: gautier at fry-it.com (Gautier HAYOUN) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 08:31:41 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Announcing the February London Code Dojo Message-ID: Hello fellow Pythonistas! The first Thursday of February is next week the 07/02 and that means London Python Code Dojo! Grab your tickets now before they are all gone : https://ldnpydojo.eventwax.com/london-python-code-dojo-season-4-episode-6 We are open for problem suggestions. By experience an algorithmic problem is good, but a 3d MMORPG is bad. If you need any more information, contact the team via Twitter: @ldnpydojo or via email team at ldnpydojo.org.uk . Look forward to seeing you all next Thursday. Gautier From gautier at fry-it.com Thu Feb 7 10:17:33 2013 From: gautier at fry-it.com (Gautier HAYOUN) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 09:17:33 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Announcing the February London Code Dojo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We've had a couple of drop-outs for tonight so check eventwax for more tickets if you couldn't get one last week. > On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Gautier HAYOUN wrote: > Hello fellow Pythonistas! > > The first Thursday of February is next week the 07/02 and that means > London Python Code Dojo!() > problem is good, but a 3d MMORPG is bad. > > If you need any more information, contact the team via Twitter: > @ldnpydojo or via email team at ldnpydojo.org.uk . > > Look forward to seeing you all next Thursday. > > Gautier From daniele at vurt.org Tue Feb 12 00:11:26 2013 From: daniele at vurt.org (Daniele Procida) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 23:11:26 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python & Kraftwerk Message-ID: <20130211231126.2030848289@smtp.ntlworld.com> Hi folks. I'm putting on an event next month: . It will feature eight live bands playing Kraftwerk songs. Between the acts I am assembling various videos and other things that will function to provide some entertainments in the interludes. I am also collecting various computer-generated visuals to play while the bands are playing. If you have, or know of, or would even like to create any Python-generated materials that would be suitable for the event, I'd love to use them. It could be anything, pretty much. I found an interesting program for Mac OS X which makes it easier to get it to sing using the built-in voices but I haven't had brilliant results with it and it's in Perl so I have no idea what it's doing. If you can suggest any Python software that might be useful for creating something suitable, or even contributing something (of course everything will be credited, with links to your websites or whatever) I'd be interested to hear about it. Daniele From jamesbtobin at gmail.com Thu Feb 14 16:44:25 2013 From: jamesbtobin at gmail.com (James Tobin) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:44:25 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] JOB: QA Engineer Message-ID: Hello, I'm working with an employer that is looking to hire both experienced and graduate QA Engineers. This would be a permanent position working from home. You should have: 1. An interest in programming as well as open source databases; 2. Test development skills using C++/Java as well as scripting languages like Python, Ruby, Perl. Please email me using jamesbtobin at gmail.com to learn more. All the best, James From mail at timgolden.me.uk Thu Feb 14 21:29:28 2013 From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:29:28 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python Trademark at Risk in Europe Message-ID: <511D4928.5010800@timgolden.me.uk> For those who don't follow other channels. http://pyfound.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/python-trademark-at-risk-in-europe-we.html tl;dr - the PSF, to defend the use of "Python" in Europe, needs testimony and documentation to demonstrate that, for as long as possible, "Python" has meant the Python language in order to contest a commercial trademark application. TJG From jjl at pobox.com Thu Feb 14 21:35:48 2013 From: jjl at pobox.com (John Lee) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:35:48 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [python-uk] Python Trademark at Risk in Europe In-Reply-To: <511D4928.5010800@timgolden.me.uk> References: <511D4928.5010800@timgolden.me.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 14 Feb 2013, Tim Golden wrote: > For those who don't follow other channels. > > http://pyfound.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/python-trademark-at-risk-in-europe-we.html > > tl;dr - the PSF, to defend the use of "Python" in Europe, needs testimony and > documentation to demonstrate that, for as long as possible, "Python" has > meant the Python language in order to contest a commercial trademark > application. ...particularly short letters from businesses, including businesses outside of the UK (the latter according to this HN comment from someone who claims to be a lawyer: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5221407). Why is there no "throw it out as absurd within 10 minutes" process to save everybody the expense and hassle? Including the company making the application. Are trademark as messed up as patents? John From roger at rolepoint.com Thu Feb 14 21:42:15 2013 From: roger at rolepoint.com (Roger Toor) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:42:15 -0800 Subject: [python-uk] Can you help us build our London team? Message-ID: Hey folks We're building our London team, which will consist of 4-5 developers in the next few weeks. However, being based in Silicon Valley at the moment, I am struggling to find where suitable candidates available now/soon hang out. I'll be flying in this weekend, so would appreciate it if anyone on the list can suggest anyone appropriate that I should speak with? *Here's a quick overview:* 4 of us started the company in London and moved to San Francisco 1 year ago for the AngelPad incubator (0.5% admission rate) and subsequently raised one of the largest seed funding rounds in recent history, our investors include Google's chairman (Eric Schmidt) and 30 others of a similar calibre. They're flooding us with introductions to companies they're invested in as potential clients (Skype, Spotify, Zynga, Pinterest, Square, Palantir etc), now we just need help building out more of the product in addition to a great engineering culture. We have the resources of a much larger company and an unfair advantage that most never get access to, with the pace and openness to change of a startup. We're still only 10 strong and on the cusp of some very aggressive growth, so anyone joining now will shape how big business we become. We're already making money and looking at raising our Series B at the end of this year. Exciting things ahead! *Requirements:* - Mid-Senior developers looking for perm / contract-to-hire in London - Available immediately or in the next few weeks - Strong with Python 2.x - Ideally also strong with Flask, Django is okay too - Google App Engine (NoSQL) - Strong experience building rich web applications We're also looking for frontend skill set, which ideally would sit with the backend guys: - Backbone.JS, CoffeeScript Engineers get the best kit (we can afford ;)) and we're big on continuous integration + automation. All the best, Roger Toor Co-Founder and CTO at RolePoint (415) 323 9340 | skype: rogertoor | www.rolepoint.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From richard at arbee-design.co.uk Thu Feb 14 23:39:40 2013 From: richard at arbee-design.co.uk (Richard Barran) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 22:39:40 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Can you help us build our London team? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2F2B222E-4FC0-4331-BC7C-D878E454CAB1@arbee-design.co.uk> The various beer-and-tech gatherings organised through meetup.com could be a good starting point? http://www.meetup.com/The-London-Python-Group-TLPG/ and http://www.meetup.com/The-London-Django-Meetup-Group/ (for Django [warm] bodies). Personally I got my first job in London through one of these; I'm gonna work 2 weeks later this month for a co. I met at a recent meetup; and today I helped interview a guy who was at the last Django meet. So they definitely work. HTH, Richard On 14 Feb 2013, at 20:42, Roger Toor wrote: > ... > We're building our London team, which will consist of 4-5 developers in the next few weeks. However, being based in Silicon Valley at the moment, I am struggling to find where suitable candidates available now/soon hang out > ... From tom at viner.tv Fri Feb 15 00:03:07 2013 From: tom at viner.tv (Tom Viner) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 23:03:07 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python Trademark at Risk in Europe In-Reply-To: References: <511D4928.5010800@timgolden.me.uk> Message-ID: I contacted Webfaction, who say they're looking at this now. I think they'll make a good case as they were trading at python-hosting.com back in the beginning . Tom @tomviner On 14 February 2013 20:35, John Lee wrote: > On Thu, 14 Feb 2013, Tim Golden wrote: > > For those who don't follow other channels. >> >> http://pyfound.blogspot.co.uk/**2013/02/python-trademark-at-** >> risk-in-europe-we.html >> >> tl;dr - the PSF, to defend the use of "Python" in Europe, needs testimony >> and documentation to demonstrate that, for as long as possible, "Python" >> has meant the Python language in order to contest a commercial trademark >> application. >> > > ...particularly short letters from businesses, including businesses > outside of the UK (the latter according to this HN comment from someone who > claims to be a lawyer: https://news.ycombinator.com/**item?id=5221407 > ). > > Why is there no "throw it out as absurd within 10 minutes" process to save > everybody the expense and hassle? Including the company making the > application. 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The irony for me: I wonder how much Python software those guys are running in their cloud stack? *sigh* Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Batch Processing & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk From ntoll at ntoll.org Fri Feb 15 07:41:26 2013 From: ntoll at ntoll.org (Nicholas H.Tollervey) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 06:41:26 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Can you help us build our London team? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <511DD896.3040502@ntoll.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Roger, The London Python Code Dojo happens on the first Thursday of every month. Many developers have found jobs through attending this event (see: http://ntoll.org/article/how-to-run-an-awesome-code-dojo for the full details of what a dojo is - basically lots of live coding, problem solving and discussion). It's not uncommon for companies to turn up, stand up and say, "We're hiring, come grab me for details". Also, were you to take part in the dojo you'd also get to see and work with potential applicants thinking about, resolving and presenting solutions to computing problems in Python. We announce details on this list. HTH, Nicholas. On 14/02/13 20:42, Roger Toor wrote: > Hey folks > > We're building our London team, which will consist of 4-5 > developers in the next few weeks. However, being based in Silicon > Valley at the moment, I am struggling to find where suitable > candidates available now/soon hang out. > > I'll be flying in this weekend, so would appreciate it if anyone on > the list can suggest anyone appropriate that I should speak with? > > > *Here's a quick overview:* > > 4 of us started the company in London and moved to San Francisco 1 > year ago for the AngelPad incubator (0.5% admission rate) and > subsequently raised one of the largest seed funding rounds in > recent history, our investors include Google's chairman (Eric > Schmidt) and 30 others of a similar calibre. > > They're flooding us with introductions to companies they're > invested in as potential clients (Skype, Spotify, Zynga, Pinterest, > Square, Palantir etc), now we just need help building out more of > the product in addition to a great engineering culture. > > We have the resources of a much larger company and an unfair > advantage that most never get access to, with the pace and openness > to change of a startup. We're still only 10 strong and on the cusp > of some very aggressive growth, so anyone joining now will shape > how big business we become. We're already making money and looking > at raising our Series B at the end of this year. Exciting things > ahead! > > > *Requirements:* > > * Mid-Senior developers looking for perm / contract-to-hire in > London * Available immediately or in the next few weeks * Strong > with Python 2.x * Ideally also strong with Flask, Django is okay > too * Google App Engine (NoSQL) * Strong experience building rich > web applications > > We're also looking for frontend skill set, which ideally would sit > with the backend guys: > > * Backbone.JS, CoffeeScript > > > Engineers get the best kit (we can afford ;)) and we're big on > continuous integration + automation. > > All the best, > > Roger Toor > > Co-Founder and CTO at RolePoint > > (415) 323 9340 | skype: rogertoor | www.rolepoint.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ python-uk mailing > list python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRHdiTAAoJEP0qBPaYQbb6YfMIAKXcFX3vjgx3b2mfrXI/5HdW w04NXy30N7Ozljd7YPmLwVDSzlj4YhKqTtoY4/pVWgRUTi5KOsxjz4G/b4AdLOiR 4EeTGbMnHgzUHDnJRyfSm9xcATE2cpIvTEIGmlJH812YpeCmTYPiufnUhd4pFVw4 +OCZ75FJ2XeC2pYAXfIrgEsKqtuy1ijI9B2AG5QBCMJ9f00CPN5VJosae8kIOOCd 94WwiGdOCAmgqSsD0N9/f02j4yfd1N/1ZZa7eKGTNTA1CVhzo94a4mEvVe1hrZbj nZgmKXZJfVVuL3NYT8nHotyKwnKd8bD0yAx463+x5HUbtqzJypefM3urPh+pWeA= =elt2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From richard at arbee-design.co.uk Fri Feb 15 09:16:17 2013 From: richard at arbee-design.co.uk (Richard Barran) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 08:16:17 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Can you help us build our London team? In-Reply-To: <511DD896.3040502@ntoll.org> References: <511DD896.3040502@ntoll.org> Message-ID: Apologies Nick - I completely forgot about the dojo in my list of regular meetups. I'll wear a dunce cap for today in penance. On 15 Feb 2013, at 06:41, Nicholas H.Tollervey wrote: > Hi Roger, > > The London Python Code Dojo happens on the first Thursday of every > month. Many developers have found jobs through attending this event > (see: http://ntoll.org/article/how-to-run-an-awesome-code-dojo for the > full details of what a dojo is - basically lots of live coding, > problem solving and discussion). > > It's not uncommon for companies to turn up, stand up and say, "We're > hiring, come grab me for details". Also, were you to take part in the > dojo you'd also get to see and work with potential applicants thinking > about, resolving and presenting solutions to computing problems in Python. > > We announce details on this list. > > HTH, > > Nicholas. > From andy at reportlab.com Fri Feb 15 10:08:14 2013 From: andy at reportlab.com (Andy Robinson) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 09:08:14 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python Trademark at Risk in Europe In-Reply-To: <511D7B3D.2070208@simplistix.co.uk> References: <511D4928.5010800@timgolden.me.uk> <511D7B3D.2070208@simplistix.co.uk> Message-ID: Grrrrrrrr!!!!!! I'll attempt to muster all my righteous indignation and write a letter this weekend - also happy to contribute some money for lawyers. If anyone needs a 'Mr. Angry' to go and testify anywhere I would be happy to. Just a thought - surely the long track record of EuroPython conferences must count for a lot within the EU? I can probably work in the following... - first person organising Python community technical meetings in London, back to 1996 - (co) author of a book with Python in the title in 2000 - OK, it was published by O'Reilly but it was promoted and on sale here - first company based entirely on Python software, 2000 onwards, evangelising the use of the language in UK etc etc - 'chaired' UK Python Conference (albeit as a track somewhat under the radar within the ACCU, but I can downplay) for about 5 years from 2002 onwards Andy Robinson ReportLab From duncan.booth at suttoncourtenay.org.uk Fri Feb 15 10:22:52 2013 From: duncan.booth at suttoncourtenay.org.uk (Duncan Booth) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 09:22:52 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python Trademark at Risk in Europe In-Reply-To: References: <511D4928.5010800@timgolden.me.uk> <511D7B3D.2070208@simplistix.co.uk> Message-ID: I've posted about this on the ACCU mailing list asking if anyone has old conference programmes etc. they can send to the PSF. I need to see if I can find the appropriate person at work to write a letter. Duncan On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Andy Robinson wrote: > Grrrrrrrr!!!!!! > > I'll attempt to muster all my righteous indignation and write a letter > this weekend - also happy to contribute some money for lawyers. If > anyone needs a 'Mr. Angry' to go and testify anywhere I would be happy > to. > > Just a thought - surely the long track record of EuroPython > conferences must count for a lot within the EU? > > I can probably work in the following... > - first person organising Python community technical meetings in > London, back to 1996 > - (co) author of a book with Python in the title in 2000 - OK, it was > published by O'Reilly but it was promoted and on sale here > - first company based entirely on Python software, 2000 onwards, > evangelising the use of the language in UK etc etc > - 'chaired' UK Python Conference (albeit as a track somewhat under the > radar within the ACCU, but I can downplay) for about 5 years from 2002 > onwards > > Andy Robinson > ReportLab > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sparks.m at gmail.com Fri Feb 15 12:01:50 2013 From: sparks.m at gmail.com (Michael) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:01:50 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python Trademark at Risk in Europe In-Reply-To: References: <511D4928.5010800@timgolden.me.uk> <511D7B3D.2070208@simplistix.co.uk> Message-ID: In order to get support at work regarding this, I decided to do some digging, and it turns out, looking at archive.org, that the company in question or at least the domain in question - has been used to mean "python internet" or "python internet services" off and on since 1998. It's also been called cheapnet, and various other things in its early days by the looks of things. The blog description is slightly inaccurate in saying that the company in question have only just started using the name - they appear to have used the name off and on for 15 years. This doesn't mean to say that the trademark application has merit - it doesn't - I first did a python tutorial around 15 years ago, and there were published books etc at the time, but it doesn't help to say "they've just started using this", when that's not really quite the case. The question I'd personally have (which is unclear from the domain name) is whether this is the same company today (through acquisition or merger) as the company from 1998? (I still think the trademark application hasn't got any merit, but given the fact they came back to use the same name over a period of years, I can see what probably led them to think (incorrectly) they could/should try to get it) Michael. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mail at timgolden.me.uk Fri Feb 15 12:09:13 2013 From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:09:13 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python Trademark at Risk in Europe In-Reply-To: References: <511D4928.5010800@timgolden.me.uk> <511D7B3D.2070208@simplistix.co.uk> Message-ID: <511E1759.6020505@timgolden.me.uk> In case that's useful info, Michael, would you mind forwarding it back to psf-trademarks at python.org ? As far as I can tell you're only sending to python-uk. TJG On 15/02/2013 11:01, Michael wrote: > In order to get support at work regarding this, I decided to do some > digging, and it turns out, looking at archive.org , > that the company in question or at least the domain in question - has > been used to mean "python internet" or "python internet services" off > and on since 1998. > > It's also been called cheapnet, and various other things in its early > days by the looks of things. > > The blog description is slightly inaccurate in saying that the company > in question have only just started using the name - they appear to have > used the name off and on for 15 years. > > This doesn't mean to say that the trademark application has merit - it > doesn't - I first did a python tutorial around 15 years ago, and there > were published books etc at the time, but it doesn't help to say > "they've just started using this", when that's not really quite the case. > > The question I'd personally have (which is unclear from the domain name) > is whether this is the same company today (through acquisition or > merger) as the company from 1998? > > (I still think the trademark application hasn't got any merit, but given > the fact they came back to use the same name over a period of years, I > can see what probably led them to think (incorrectly) they could/should > try to get it) > > > > Michael. > > > > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > From sparks.m at gmail.com Fri Feb 15 12:58:14 2013 From: sparks.m at gmail.com (Michael) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:58:14 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python Trademark at Risk in Europe In-Reply-To: <511E1759.6020505@timgolden.me.uk> References: <511D4928.5010800@timgolden.me.uk> <511D7B3D.2070208@simplistix.co.uk> <511E1759.6020505@timgolden.me.uk> Message-ID: Hi Tim, On 15 February 2013 11:09, Tim Golden wrote: > > In case that's useful info, Michael, would you mind forwarding it > back to psf-trademarks at python.org ? As far as I can tell you're only > sending to python-uk. Will do. As you'd expect/suspect I fully support the PSF's stance on this, but I just think in terms of discussions where the benefit of the doubt will be given to both sides, a little more accuracy would go a long way. After all, if someone has been using a name off and on, as well as making their claim more tenuous (since even with a registered mark you have to defend use), it also suggests that they did not see utility in the name for much of that time period -- which could be viewed as implying that if you said "python" people would not think of them. (and of course most people have never heard of them until now!) Michael. From jjl at pobox.com Fri Feb 15 23:13:01 2013 From: jjl at pobox.com (John Lee) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 22:13:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [python-uk] Python Trademark at Risk in Europe In-Reply-To: References: <511D4928.5010800@timgolden.me.uk> <511D7B3D.2070208@simplistix.co.uk> Message-ID: I imagine Andy may have some, because his company produced those conference programmes, IIRC :-) John On Fri, 15 Feb 2013, Duncan Booth wrote: > I've posted about this on the ACCU mailing list asking if anyone has old > conference programmes etc. they can send to the PSF. I need to see if I can > find the appropriate person at work to write a letter. > Duncan > > > On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Andy Robinson wrote: > >> Grrrrrrrr!!!!!! >> >> I'll attempt to muster all my righteous indignation and write a letter >> this weekend - also happy to contribute some money for lawyers. If >> anyone needs a 'Mr. Angry' to go and testify anywhere I would be happy >> to. >> >> Just a thought - surely the long track record of EuroPython >> conferences must count for a lot within the EU? >> >> I can probably work in the following... >> - first person organising Python community technical meetings in >> London, back to 1996 >> - (co) author of a book with Python in the title in 2000 - OK, it was >> published by O'Reilly but it was promoted and on sale here >> - first company based entirely on Python software, 2000 onwards, >> evangelising the use of the language in UK etc etc >> - 'chaired' UK Python Conference (albeit as a track somewhat under the >> radar within the ACCU, but I can downplay) for about 5 years from 2002 >> onwards >> >> Andy Robinson >> ReportLab >> _______________________________________________ >> python-uk mailing list >> python-uk at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk >> > From ed.hartley at gmail.com Sat Feb 16 20:10:57 2013 From: ed.hartley at gmail.com (E Hartley) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 19:10:57 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python Trademark at Risk in Europe In-Reply-To: <511D7B3D.2070208@simplistix.co.uk> References: <511D4928.5010800@timgolden.me.uk> <511D7B3D.2070208@simplistix.co.uk> Message-ID: <4C9BE82F-5E81-4574-86EA-5C56BFF004F2@gmail.com> To my knowledge the Python programming language was actively used as a teaching language in the UK academic community at least as early as 1994. Ed Hartley On 15 Feb 2013, at 00:03, Chris Withers wrote: > On 14/02/2013 20:29, Tim Golden wrote: >> For those who don't follow other channels. >> >> http://pyfound.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/python-trademark-at-risk-in-europe-we.html >> >> tl;dr - the PSF, to defend the use of "Python" in Europe, needs >> testimony and documentation to demonstrate that, for as long as >> possible, "Python" has meant the Python language in order to contest a >> commercial trademark application. > > The irony for me: I wonder how much Python software those guys are running in their cloud stack? > > *sigh* > > Chris > > -- > Simplistix - Content Management, Batch Processing & Python Consulting > - http://www.simplistix.co.uk > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk From russel at winder.org.uk Sat Feb 16 20:51:40 2013 From: russel at winder.org.uk (Russel Winder) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 19:51:40 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Can you help us build our London team? In-Reply-To: <511DD896.3040502@ntoll.org> References: <511DD896.3040502@ntoll.org> Message-ID: <1361044300.12474.34.camel@anglides.winder.org.uk> The London Python Group (http://www.meetup.com/The-London-Python-Group-TLPG/) is beginning to take off as well. I am hoping to see it meet monthly at Skills Matter. Not trying to compete with the Dojo but to complement it. The meeting last Tuesday had a "Job pitch" to open it in return for pizza and beer after the session (which, OK, was done by me http://skillsmatter.com/podcast/scala/switch-to-python-3-now-immediately http://skillsmatter.com/event/scala/switch-to-python-3-now-immediately) I thought this worked very well. The company did their pitch in a neat and humorous way, it didn't come over as anything heavy, just good natured. I hope they fill the post from a contact made that evening. Overall, very Pythonic :-) The pizza and beer worked very well and enable "pressing the flesh". A great round off to the event. -- Russel. ============================================================================= Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 voip: sip:russel.winder at ekiga.net 41 Buckmaster Road m: +44 7770 465 077 xmpp: russel at winder.org.uk London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk skype: russel_winder -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From petegraham1 at gmail.com Sat Feb 16 21:58:32 2013 From: petegraham1 at gmail.com (Pete Graham) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 20:58:32 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Can you help us build our London team? In-Reply-To: <1361044300.12474.34.camel@anglides.winder.org.uk> References: <511DD896.3040502@ntoll.org> <1361044300.12474.34.camel@anglides.winder.org.uk> Message-ID: <7399350152415394771@unknownmsgid> Hi Russel, When is the next London Python Group event? I couldn't see a next event scheduled on meetup.com. Thanks, Pete On 16 Feb 2013, at 20:00, Russel Winder wrote: > The London Python Group > (http://www.meetup.com/The-London-Python-Group-TLPG/) is beginning to > take off as well. I am hoping to see it meet monthly at Skills Matter. > Not trying to compete with the Dojo but to complement it. > > The meeting last Tuesday had a "Job pitch" to open it in return for > pizza and beer after the session (which, OK, was done by me > http://skillsmatter.com/podcast/scala/switch-to-python-3-now-immediately > http://skillsmatter.com/event/scala/switch-to-python-3-now-immediately) > > I thought this worked very well. The company did their pitch in a neat > and humorous way, it didn't come over as anything heavy, just good > natured. I hope they fill the post from a contact made that evening. > Overall, very Pythonic :-) > > The pizza and beer worked very well and enable "pressing the flesh". A > great round off to the event. > > -- > Russel. > ============================================================================= > Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 voip: sip:russel.winder at ekiga.net > 41 Buckmaster Road m: +44 7770 465 077 xmpp: russel at winder.org.uk > London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk skype: russel_winder > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk From roger at rolepoint.com Sun Feb 17 15:50:45 2013 From: roger at rolepoint.com (Roger Toor) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 14:50:45 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Can you help us build our London team? In-Reply-To: <7399350152415394771@unknownmsgid> References: <511DD896.3040502@ntoll.org> <1361044300.12474.34.camel@anglides.winder.org.uk> <7399350152415394771@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: Thanks a lot everyone for all of the great suggestions. I'm looking forward to meeting you at the upcoming events. As suggested by a couple of you, I'll also be reposting this to some related groups, so apologies in advance if you see the duplicate. Had good interest from some great candidates already, but there's a lot of positions to fill, so if it is of interest then by all means apply (or recommend). All the best, Roger Toor Co-Founder and CTO at RolePoint (415) 323 9340 | skype: rogertoor | www.rolepoint.com On 16 February 2013 20:58, Pete Graham wrote: > Hi Russel, > > When is the next London Python Group event? I couldn't see a next > event scheduled on meetup.com. > > Thanks, > Pete > > On 16 Feb 2013, at 20:00, Russel Winder wrote: > > > The London Python Group > > (http://www.meetup.com/The-London-Python-Group-TLPG/) is beginning to > > take off as well. I am hoping to see it meet monthly at Skills Matter. > > Not trying to compete with the Dojo but to complement it. > > > > The meeting last Tuesday had a "Job pitch" to open it in return for > > pizza and beer after the session (which, OK, was done by me > > http://skillsmatter.com/podcast/scala/switch-to-python-3-now-immediately > > http://skillsmatter.com/event/scala/switch-to-python-3-now-immediately) > > > > I thought this worked very well. The company did their pitch in a neat > > and humorous way, it didn't come over as anything heavy, just good > > natured. I hope they fill the post from a contact made that evening. > > Overall, very Pythonic :-) > > > > The pizza and beer worked very well and enable "pressing the flesh". A > > great round off to the event. > > > > -- > > Russel. > > > ============================================================================= > > Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 voip: > sip:russel.winder at ekiga.net > > 41 Buckmaster Road m: +44 7770 465 077 xmpp: russel at winder.org.uk > > London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk skype: russel_winder > > _______________________________________________ > > python-uk mailing list > > python-uk at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From a.cavallo at cavallinux.eu Wed Feb 20 07:29:48 2013 From: a.cavallo at cavallinux.eu (Antonio Cavallo) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 06:29:48 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Can you help us build our London team? In-Reply-To: <7399350152415394771@unknownmsgid> References: <511DD896.3040502@ntoll.org> <1361044300.12474.34.camel@anglides.winder.org.uk> <7399350152415394771@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <51246D5C.9020803@cavallinux.eu> Hi Pete, hello Russel, hello Roger, Kris and me are the London Python Group Meetup organisers: Kris is the current "organiser-in-chief" at the moment. The last meetup has been organised recently (12th Feb, thanks Russel) and the plan is to have another one in about a month time: no firm date or place yet. * begin of shameful self promotion * yes the group has reached its second year and it has nearly 500 members now: not as old as python itself but not bad. * end of shameful self promotion * Yes, we don't try to step over the "Dojo" meetings, we have clearly a different scope. And we try best not to overlap meetings. I hope this helps, Antonio Pete Graham wrote: > Hi Russel, > > When is the next London Python Group event? I couldn't see a next > event scheduled on meetup.com. > > Thanks, > Pete > > On 16 Feb 2013, at 20:00, Russel Winder wrote: > >> The London Python Group >> (http://www.meetup.com/The-London-Python-Group-TLPG/) is beginning to >> take off as well. I am hoping to see it meet monthly at Skills Matter. >> Not trying to compete with the Dojo but to complement it. >> >> The meeting last Tuesday had a "Job pitch" to open it in return for >> pizza and beer after the session (which, OK, was done by me >> http://skillsmatter.com/podcast/scala/switch-to-python-3-now-immediately >> http://skillsmatter.com/event/scala/switch-to-python-3-now-immediately) >> >> I thought this worked very well. The company did their pitch in a neat >> and humorous way, it didn't come over as anything heavy, just good >> natured. I hope they fill the post from a contact made that evening. >> Overall, very Pythonic :-) >> >> The pizza and beer worked very well and enable "pressing the flesh". A >> great round off to the event. >> >> -- >> Russel. >> ============================================================================= >> Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 voip: sip:russel.winder at ekiga.net >> 41 Buckmaster Road m: +44 7770 465 077 xmpp: russel at winder.org.uk >> London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk skype: russel_winder >> _______________________________________________ >> python-uk mailing list >> python-uk at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk From michael at crowdscores.co.uk Wed Feb 20 12:15:51 2013 From: michael at crowdscores.co.uk (Michael Mangion) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 11:15:51 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python developer for real-time sports data startup Message-ID: We are a well-funded Internet startup based in central London and have a new requirement for a Python developer to join the team. We are expanding aggressively and require new talent across the business over the coming months. The ideal candidates will have at least a couple of years' experience in Python and love writing clear, test-driven code. You should be familiar with Agile (Scrum, Kanban) and TDD, have a working knowledge of web technologies (HTML, CSS, JS) and love using Git or similar source control tools. Anything else that you bring (Django, Flask, Postgres, Fabric, Celery, RabbitMQ, NoSQL, Amazon AWS, etc.) will be great and we'd expect you to be constantly exploring new technologies for possible inclusion into the stack anyway. This is a great opportunity to join a highly creative company building a great new product whose direction you can influence. Get in touch on jobs at crowdscores.co.uk for more details. -- *Michael Mangion* Co-founder CrowdScores Limited Mobile: +44 (0)7726 885498 Skype: michaelmangion Twitter: @crowdscores www.crowdscores.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From petegraham1 at gmail.com Wed Feb 20 13:33:33 2013 From: petegraham1 at gmail.com (Pete Graham) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 12:33:33 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Can you help us build our London team? In-Reply-To: <51246D5C.9020803@cavallinux.eu> References: <511DD896.3040502@ntoll.org> <1361044300.12474.34.camel@anglides.winder.org.uk> <7399350152415394771@unknownmsgid> <51246D5C.9020803@cavallinux.eu> Message-ID: Hi Antonio, What's the best way to be informed of when the next London Python Group Meetup is announced? Is there a twitter account to follow? Thanks, Pete On 20 February 2013 06:29, Antonio Cavallo wrote: > > Hi Pete, hello Russel, hello Roger, > > Kris and me are the London Python Group Meetup organisers: Kris is the > current "organiser-in-chief" at the moment. > > The last meetup has been organised recently (12th Feb, thanks Russel) and > the plan is to have another one in about a month time: no firm date or place > yet. > > * begin of shameful self promotion * > yes the group has reached its second year and it has nearly 500 members now: > not as old as python itself but not bad. > * end of shameful self promotion * > > Yes, we don't try to step over the "Dojo" meetings, we have clearly a > different scope. And we try best not to overlap meetings. > > > I hope this helps, > Antonio > > > Pete Graham wrote: >> >> Hi Russel, >> >> When is the next London Python Group event? I couldn't see a next >> event scheduled on meetup.com. >> >> Thanks, >> Pete >> >> On 16 Feb 2013, at 20:00, Russel Winder wrote: >> >>> The London Python Group >>> (http://www.meetup.com/The-London-Python-Group-TLPG/) is beginning to >>> take off as well. I am hoping to see it meet monthly at Skills Matter. >>> Not trying to compete with the Dojo but to complement it. >>> >>> The meeting last Tuesday had a "Job pitch" to open it in return for >>> pizza and beer after the session (which, OK, was done by me >>> http://skillsmatter.com/podcast/scala/switch-to-python-3-now-immediately >>> http://skillsmatter.com/event/scala/switch-to-python-3-now-immediately) >>> >>> I thought this worked very well. The company did their pitch in a neat >>> and humorous way, it didn't come over as anything heavy, just good >>> natured. I hope they fill the post from a contact made that evening. >>> Overall, very Pythonic :-) >>> >>> The pizza and beer worked very well and enable "pressing the flesh". A >>> great round off to the event. >>> >>> -- >>> Russel. >>> >>> ============================================================================= >>> Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 voip: >>> sip:russel.winder at ekiga.net >>> 41 Buckmaster Road m: +44 7770 465 077 xmpp: russel at winder.org.uk >>> London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk skype: russel_winder >>> _______________________________________________ >>> python-uk mailing list >>> python-uk at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk >> >> _______________________________________________ >> python-uk mailing list >> python-uk at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk From a.cavallo at cavallinux.eu Thu Feb 21 00:44:59 2013 From: a.cavallo at cavallinux.eu (Antonio Cavallo) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 23:44:59 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Can you help us build our London team? In-Reply-To: References: <511DD896.3040502@ntoll.org> <1361044300.12474.34.camel@anglides.winder.org.uk> <7399350152415394771@unknownmsgid> <51246D5C.9020803@cavallinux.eu> Message-ID: <51255FFB.5000704@cavallinux.eu> The best way is joining the meetup: http://www.meetup.com/The-London-Python-Group-TLPG/ This helps a lot in organising the events and we cross post to the python uk list in case someone will miss the meetup email. I haven't considered twitter. I hope this helps, Antonio Pete Graham wrote: > Hi Antonio, > > What's the best way to be informed of when the next London Python > Group Meetup is announced? Is there a twitter account to follow? > > Thanks, > Pete > >>>> London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk skype: russel_winder >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> python-uk mailing list >>>> python-uk at python.org >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk >>> _______________________________________________ >>> python-uk mailing list >>> python-uk at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk From theology at gmail.com Thu Feb 21 00:52:15 2013 From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 23:52:15 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Can you help us build our London team? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <512561AF.9050607@gmail.com> Hey Roger, Sounds good, what's the money like? Best Wishes, Zeth On 14/02/13 20:42, Roger Toor wrote: > Hey folks > > We're building our London team, which will consist of 4-5 developers in > the next few weeks. However, being based in Silicon Valley at the > moment, I am struggling to find where suitable candidates available > now/soon hang out. > > I'll be flying in this weekend, so would appreciate it if anyone on the > list can suggest anyone appropriate that I should speak with? > > > *Here's a quick overview:* > > 4 of us started the company in London and moved to San Francisco 1 year > ago for the AngelPad incubator (0.5% admission rate) and subsequently > raised one of the largest seed funding rounds in recent history, our > investors include Google's chairman (Eric Schmidt) and 30 others of a > similar calibre. > > They're flooding us with introductions to companies they're invested in > as potential clients (Skype, Spotify, Zynga, Pinterest, Square, Palantir > etc), now we just need help building out more of the product in addition > to a great engineering culture. > > We have the resources of a much larger company and an unfair advantage > that most never get access to, with the pace and openness to change of a > startup. We're still only 10 strong and on the cusp of some very > aggressive growth, so anyone joining now will shape how big business we > become. We're already making money and looking at raising our Series B > at the end of this year. Exciting things ahead! > > > *Requirements:* > > * Mid-Senior developers looking for perm / contract-to-hire in London > * Available immediately or in the next few weeks > * Strong with Python 2.x > * Ideally also strong with Flask, Django is okay too > * Google App Engine (NoSQL) > * Strong experience building rich web applications > > We're also looking for frontend skill set, which ideally would sit with > the backend guys: > > * Backbone.JS, CoffeeScript > > > Engineers get the best kit (we can afford ;)) and we're big on > continuous integration + automation. > > All the best, > > Roger Toor > > Co-Founder and CTO at RolePoint > > (415) 323 9340 | skype: rogertoor |www.rolepoint.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > From lord.mauve at gmail.com Thu Feb 21 15:04:11 2013 From: lord.mauve at gmail.com (Daniel Pope) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:04:11 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Reading Python Dojo, next Tuesday, 26th February Message-ID: The next Reading Python Dojo will be on Tuesday 26th February at 7pm, at Austin Fraser in Forbury Square, Reading. Please sign up for a free ticket at the link below if you would like to attend. https://rdgpydojo.eventwax.com/reading-python-dojo-february-2013 Dan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk Mon Feb 25 18:58:53 2013 From: fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 17:58:53 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Northants Geeks Meetup this week Message-ID: <3B22C99C-CCB6-47C1-8847-F07AB80D2EEB@voidspace.org.uk> Hello all, It's Northants Geeks meetup this week. It's the first one for a while so it will be great to see you all again! Thursday evening, 7:30pm onwards, the Malt Shovel pub in Northampton. Michael -- http://www.voidspace.org.uk/ May you do good and not evil May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others May you share freely, never taking more than you give. -- the sqlite blessing http://www.sqlite.org/different.html From tibs at tibsnjoan.co.uk Thu Feb 28 20:21:55 2013 From: tibs at tibsnjoan.co.uk (Tony Ibbs) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 19:21:55 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Next Cambridge meeting: Tue 5 March 2013 Message-ID: From our google group: The next meeting will be Tuesday 5th March, 7.30pm at RealVNC (http://tinyurl.com/realvncoffices). We normally stop about 9.30pm, and go on to the pub. This will be a talks meeting. Any talks will thus be very welcome, of whatever length (lightning talks up to a full meeting) Apologies for the short notice (although, well, first Tuesday of the month). Meetings after that should be: ? Tuesday 2nd April, a coding/doing stuff meeting ? Tuesday 7th May, another talks meeting ? Tuesday 4th June, another coding/doing stuff meeting Tibs