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Message-ID: <2B7FDE2C-DC00-4242-A633-3BD0C139D7AA@gmail.com> Hey everyone, A couple of years ago my then-local Python user group had an afternoon-long mini-PyCon -- we watched a few of the talk videos, argued about them, and generally had a good time and learned a lot. It was great for those who couldn't make it all the way to the conference, but also pretty good for those who could -- since PyCon had so many great talks it was impossible to go to all of them. Now that the videos are popping up rapidly after PyCon, I was wondering if there might be an appetite for a similar meet-up in London? Cheers, Rami ---- Rami Chowdhury "A mind all logic is like a knife all blade - it makes the hand bleed that uses it." -- Rabindranath Tagore +44-7581-430-517 From tartley at tartley.com Mon Mar 19 13:27:55 2012 From: tartley at tartley.com (Jonathan Hartley) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 12:27:55 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] PyCon By Video? In-Reply-To: <2B7FDE2C-DC00-4242-A633-3BD0C139D7AA@gmail.com> References: <2B7FDE2C-DC00-4242-A633-3BD0C139D7AA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F67264B.4030003@tartley.com> Definitely interested. I did attend, and have been catching up on videos of talks I missed ever since, but that's still six days worth of video to catch up on, so I'd way rather do some of it accompanied by discussion with other like-minded geeks. Should we guesstimate numbers then brainstorm venues? Jonathan On 19/03/2012 12:13, Rami Chowdhury wrote: > Hey everyone, > > A couple of years ago my then-local Python user group had an afternoon-long mini-PyCon -- we watched a few of the talk videos, argued about them, and generally had a good time and learned a lot. It was great for those who couldn't make it all the way to the conference, but also pretty good for those who could -- since PyCon had so many great talks it was impossible to go to all of them. Now that the videos are popping up rapidly after PyCon, I was wondering if there might be an appetite for a similar meet-up in London? > > Cheers, > Rami > > ---- > Rami Chowdhury > "A mind all logic is like a knife all blade - it makes the hand bleed that uses it." -- Rabindranath Tagore > +44-7581-430-517 > > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > -- Jonathan Hartley tartley at tartley.com http://tartley.com Made of meat. +44 7737 062 225 twitter/skype: tartley From tat.wright at googlemail.com Mon Mar 19 13:31:10 2012 From: tat.wright at googlemail.com (Tom Wright) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 12:31:10 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] PyCon By Video? In-Reply-To: <4F67264B.4030003@tartley.com> References: <2B7FDE2C-DC00-4242-A633-3BD0C139D7AA@gmail.com> <4F67264B.4030003@tartley.com> Message-ID: I'd be keen! On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Jonathan Hartley wrote: > Definitely interested. I did attend, and have been catching up on videos > of talks I missed ever since, but that's still six days worth of video to > catch up on, so I'd way rather do some of it accompanied by discussion with > other like-minded geeks. > > Should we guesstimate numbers then brainstorm venues? > > Jonathan > > > On 19/03/2012 12:13, Rami Chowdhury wrote: > >> Hey everyone, >> >> A couple of years ago my then-local Python user group had an >> afternoon-long mini-PyCon -- we watched a few of the talk videos, argued >> about them, and generally had a good time and learned a lot. It was great >> for those who couldn't make it all the way to the conference, but also >> pretty good for those who could -- since PyCon had so many great talks it >> was impossible to go to all of them. Now that the videos are popping up >> rapidly after PyCon, I was wondering if there might be an appetite for a >> similar meet-up in London? >> >> Cheers, >> Rami >> >> ---- >> Rami Chowdhury >> "A mind all logic is like a knife all blade - it makes the hand bleed >> that uses it." -- Rabindranath Tagore >> +44-7581-430-517 >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> python-uk mailing list >> python-uk at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/python-uk >> >> > > -- > Jonathan Hartley tartley at tartley.com http://tartley.com > Made of meat. +44 7737 062 225 twitter/skype: tartley > > > > ______________________________**_________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/python-uk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rami.chowdhury at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 13:40:30 2012 From: rami.chowdhury at gmail.com (Rami Chowdhury) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 12:40:30 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] PyCon By Video? In-Reply-To: References: <2B7FDE2C-DC00-4242-A633-3BD0C139D7AA@gmail.com> <4F67264B.4030003@tartley.com> Message-ID: <816ED84C-8FC0-4CF1-A2A2-F67EA8406303@gmail.com> On Mar 19, 2012, at 12:31 PM, Tom Wright wrote: > I'd be keen! Awesome :-) > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Jonathan Hartley wrote: > have been catching up on videos of talks I missed ever since, but that's still six days worth of video to catch up on, so I'd way rather do some of it accompanied by discussion with other like-minded geeks. I'm really glad there's interest -- that's exactly what I had in mind. > Should we guesstimate numbers then brainstorm venues? :-) > > Jonathan > > > On 19/03/2012 12:13, Rami Chowdhury wrote: > Hey everyone, > > A couple of years ago my then-local Python user group had an afternoon-long mini-PyCon -- we watched a few of the talk videos, argued about them, and generally had a good time and learned a lot. It was great for those who couldn't make it all the way to the conference, but also pretty good for those who could -- since PyCon had so many great talks it was impossible to go to all of them. Now that the videos are popping up rapidly after PyCon, I was wondering if there might be an appetite for a similar meet-up in London? > > Cheers, > Rami > > ---- > Rami Chowdhury > "A mind all logic is like a knife all blade - it makes the hand bleed that uses it." -- Rabindranath Tagore > +44-7581-430-517 > > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > > > > -- > Jonathan Hartley tartley at tartley.com http://tartley.com > Made of meat. +44 7737 062 225 twitter/skype: tartley > > > > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk ---- Rami Chowdhury "A mind all logic is like a knife all blade - it makes the hand bleed that uses it." -- Rabindranath Tagore +44-7581-430-517 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jamesbroadhead at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 13:43:37 2012 From: jamesbroadhead at gmail.com (James Broadhead) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 12:43:37 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] PyCon By Video? In-Reply-To: <2B7FDE2C-DC00-4242-A633-3BD0C139D7AA@gmail.com> References: <2B7FDE2C-DC00-4242-A633-3BD0C139D7AA@gmail.com> Message-ID: > 19 March 2012 12:13, Rami Chowdhury wrote: > Hey everyone, > > A couple of years ago my then-local Python user group had an afternoon-long mini-PyCon -- we watched a few of the talk videos, argued about them, and generally had a good time and learned a lot. It was great for those who couldn't make it all the way to the conference, but also pretty good for those who could -- since PyCon had so many great talks it was impossible to go to all of them. Now that the videos are popping up rapidly after PyCon, I was wondering if there might be an appetite for a similar meet-up in London? > > Cheers, > Rami +1! I imagine that quite a lot of the london python users are in the same situation, so the immediate questions are; where and when? If it were an evening mid-week, we'd get less time, but might be able to find an office to host it in. From ntoll at ntoll.org Mon Mar 19 13:46:09 2012 From: ntoll at ntoll.org (Nicholas H.Tollervey) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 12:46:09 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] PyCon By Video? In-Reply-To: References: <2B7FDE2C-DC00-4242-A633-3BD0C139D7AA@gmail.com> <4F67264B.4030003@tartley.com> Message-ID: <4F672A91.4090603@ntoll.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 +1. How about contacting Skills Matters..? They have a large screen, bandwidth, chairs and help (use of premises free IIRC) community organised free events. Also, there is already a precedent... the London Android guys all watch the GoogleIO videos together (sometime live with popcorn) ;-) N. On 19/03/12 12:31, Tom Wright wrote: > I'd be keen! > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Jonathan Hartley > > wrote: > > Definitely interested. I did attend, and have been catching up on > videos of talks I missed ever since, but that's still six days > worth of video to catch up on, so I'd way rather do some of it > accompanied by discussion with other like-minded geeks. > > Should we guesstimate numbers then brainstorm venues? > > Jonathan > > > On 19/03/2012 12:13, Rami Chowdhury wrote: > > Hey everyone, > > A couple of years ago my then-local Python user group had an > afternoon-long mini-PyCon -- we watched a few of the talk videos, > argued about them, and generally had a good time and learned a lot. > It was great for those who couldn't make it all the way to the > conference, but also pretty good for those who could -- since PyCon > had so many great talks it was impossible to go to all of them. Now > that the videos are popping up rapidly after PyCon, I was wondering > if there might be an appetite for a similar meet-up in London? > > Cheers, Rami > > ---- Rami Chowdhury "A mind all logic is like a knife all blade - > it makes the hand bleed that uses it." -- Rabindranath Tagore > +44-7581-430-517 > > _________________________________________________ python-uk mailing > list python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/__mailman/listinfo/python-uk > > > > > -- Jonathan Hartley tartley at tartley.com > http://tartley.com Made of meat. > +44 7737 062 225 twitter/skype: > tartley > > > > _________________________________________________ python-uk mailing > list python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/__mailman/listinfo/python-uk > > > > > > _______________________________________________ python-uk mailing > list python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPZyqRAAoJEP0qBPaYQbb6wqAH/j3pj3WW7enH1fXeF6qZ+hVL TjOYTCoCMqkxDF4MCtTjcOVpmFwF9LHoITABplZGy2S5cHXD08Qql0c5f3/3iIGe NJ4lAbdt4HdxlhYSw4DbcOsood+JAFXEYEfFk4upAjKq3EfpbJ6pkVhnOjsHdWsa wHFJA5xnz3tmn9J0ezjFU879NdKZNMnf2YU6rwvRD2XB09Upn1vQRTl/xC/ize/h WeKbwF4qH1XHU/q4WX8huP5h+i/jLPrja65kuQWJlshJyX9ACphS/RbsuiTURnMF 9Elx6L3thL6zZNdWuAYs2FsGv8yA9IyASF3Po6ky+fk8tv5tFbfk/H9iS/57tAY= =YvAX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From walter.stafford at carbonsixty.co.uk Mon Mar 19 13:53:10 2012 From: walter.stafford at carbonsixty.co.uk (Ed Stafford) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 12:53:10 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] PyCon By Video? In-Reply-To: <4F672A91.4090603@ntoll.org> References: <2B7FDE2C-DC00-4242-A633-3BD0C139D7AA@gmail.com> <4F67264B.4030003@tartley.com> <4F672A91.4090603@ntoll.org> Message-ID: The Hub Kings Cross is another nice place to have things hosted at, though I think there may be costs associate with it. Might be worth looking into as well. -Ed On 19 March 2012 12:46, Nicholas H.Tollervey wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > +1. How about contacting Skills Matters..? They have a large screen, > bandwidth, chairs and help (use of premises free IIRC) community > organised free events. Also, there is already a precedent... the > London Android guys all watch the GoogleIO videos together (sometime > live with popcorn) ;-) > > N. > > On 19/03/12 12:31, Tom Wright wrote: > > I'd be keen! > > > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Jonathan Hartley > > > wrote: > > > > Definitely interested. I did attend, and have been catching up on > > videos of talks I missed ever since, but that's still six days > > worth of video to catch up on, so I'd way rather do some of it > > accompanied by discussion with other like-minded geeks. > > > > Should we guesstimate numbers then brainstorm venues? > > > > Jonathan > > > > > > On 19/03/2012 12:13, Rami Chowdhury wrote: > > > > Hey everyone, > > > > A couple of years ago my then-local Python user group had an > > afternoon-long mini-PyCon -- we watched a few of the talk videos, > > argued about them, and generally had a good time and learned a lot. > > It was great for those who couldn't make it all the way to the > > conference, but also pretty good for those who could -- since PyCon > > had so many great talks it was impossible to go to all of them. Now > > that the videos are popping up rapidly after PyCon, I was wondering > > if there might be an appetite for a similar meet-up in London? > > > > Cheers, Rami > > > > ---- Rami Chowdhury "A mind all logic is like a knife all blade - > > it makes the hand bleed that uses it." -- Rabindranath Tagore > > +44-7581-430-517 > > > > _________________________________________________ python-uk mailing > > list python-uk at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/__mailman/listinfo/python-uk > > > > > > > > > > -- Jonathan Hartley tartley at tartley.com > > http://tartley.com Made of meat. > > +44 7737 062 225 twitter/skype: > > tartley > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________ python-uk mailing > > list python-uk at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/__mailman/listinfo/python-uk > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ python-uk mailing > > list python-uk at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPZyqRAAoJEP0qBPaYQbb6wqAH/j3pj3WW7enH1fXeF6qZ+hVL > TjOYTCoCMqkxDF4MCtTjcOVpmFwF9LHoITABplZGy2S5cHXD08Qql0c5f3/3iIGe > NJ4lAbdt4HdxlhYSw4DbcOsood+JAFXEYEfFk4upAjKq3EfpbJ6pkVhnOjsHdWsa > wHFJA5xnz3tmn9J0ezjFU879NdKZNMnf2YU6rwvRD2XB09Upn1vQRTl/xC/ize/h > WeKbwF4qH1XHU/q4WX8huP5h+i/jLPrja65kuQWJlshJyX9ACphS/RbsuiTURnMF > 9Elx6L3thL6zZNdWuAYs2FsGv8yA9IyASF3Po6ky+fk8tv5tFbfk/H9iS/57tAY= > =YvAX > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bld at otfrom.com Mon Mar 19 14:01:45 2012 From: bld at otfrom.com (Bruce Durling) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 13:01:45 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] PyCon By Video? In-Reply-To: References: <2B7FDE2C-DC00-4242-A633-3BD0C139D7AA@gmail.com> <4F67264B.4030003@tartley.com> <4F672A91.4090603@ntoll.org> Message-ID: You can do stuff in the cafe or workshop spaces at Hub Westminster for free on Saturday's as a part of their Hub Twilight program. What day were you thinking of? cheers, Bruce On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:53, Ed Stafford wrote: > The Hub Kings Cross is another nice place to have things hosted at, though I > think there may be costs associate with it. Might be worth looking into as > well. > > -Ed > > > > On 19 March 2012 12:46, Nicholas H.Tollervey wrote: >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> +1. How about contacting Skills Matters..? They have a large screen, >> bandwidth, chairs and help (use of premises free IIRC) community >> organised free events. Also, there is already a precedent... the >> London Android guys all watch the GoogleIO videos together (sometime >> live with popcorn) ;-) >> >> N. >> >> On 19/03/12 12:31, Tom Wright wrote: >> > I'd be keen! >> > >> > On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Jonathan Hartley >> > > wrote: >> > >> > Definitely interested. I did attend, and have been catching up on >> > videos of talks I missed ever since, but that's still six days >> > worth of video to catch up on, so I'd way rather do some of it >> > accompanied by discussion with other like-minded geeks. >> > >> > Should we guesstimate numbers then brainstorm venues? >> > >> > Jonathan >> > >> > >> > On 19/03/2012 12:13, Rami Chowdhury wrote: >> > >> > Hey everyone, >> > >> > A couple of years ago my then-local Python user group had an >> > afternoon-long mini-PyCon -- we watched a few of the talk videos, >> > argued about them, and generally had a good time and learned a lot. >> > It was great for those who couldn't make it all the way to the >> > conference, but also pretty good for those who could -- since PyCon >> > had so many great talks it was impossible to go to all of them. Now >> > that the videos are popping up rapidly after PyCon, I was wondering >> > if there might be an appetite for a similar meet-up in London? >> > >> > Cheers, Rami >> > >> > ---- Rami Chowdhury "A mind all logic is like a knife all blade - >> > it makes the hand bleed that uses it." -- Rabindranath Tagore >> > +44-7581-430-517 >> > >> > _________________________________________________ python-uk mailing >> > list python-uk at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/__mailman/listinfo/python-uk >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- Jonathan Hartley ? ?tartley at tartley.com >> > http://tartley.com Made of meat. >> > +44 7737 062 225 twitter/skype: >> > tartley >> > >> > >> > >> > _________________________________________________ python-uk mailing >> > list python-uk at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/__mailman/listinfo/python-uk >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ python-uk mailing >> > list python-uk at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) >> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ >> >> iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPZyqRAAoJEP0qBPaYQbb6wqAH/j3pj3WW7enH1fXeF6qZ+hVL >> TjOYTCoCMqkxDF4MCtTjcOVpmFwF9LHoITABplZGy2S5cHXD08Qql0c5f3/3iIGe >> NJ4lAbdt4HdxlhYSw4DbcOsood+JAFXEYEfFk4upAjKq3EfpbJ6pkVhnOjsHdWsa >> wHFJA5xnz3tmn9J0ezjFU879NdKZNMnf2YU6rwvRD2XB09Upn1vQRTl/xC/ize/h >> WeKbwF4qH1XHU/q4WX8huP5h+i/jLPrja65kuQWJlshJyX9ACphS/RbsuiTURnMF >> 9Elx6L3thL6zZNdWuAYs2FsGv8yA9IyASF3Po6ky+fk8tv5tFbfk/H9iS/57tAY= >> =YvAX >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> _______________________________________________ >> python-uk mailing list >> python-uk at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > > > > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > -- CTO & co-founder @MastodonC mastodonc.com From ntoll at ntoll.org Mon Mar 19 13:43:04 2012 From: ntoll at ntoll.org (Nicholas H.Tollervey) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 12:43:04 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] London Dojo Idea: Module of the Month / Lightning Talks Message-ID: <4F6729D8.6040502@ntoll.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Last week the London Python Code Dojo cat-herders were discussing the possibility of making the lightning talks a permanent feature with the following considerations: * Talks *strictly* limited to 5mins with an additional 2mins for questions. * No more than 3 lightning talks per dojo. * At least one of the talks to be titled "Module of the Month" where someone gives us the skinny on a core module or well known / useful external module. * Lightning talks to be recorded and posted on a ldbpydojo YouTube channel and aggregated via http://pyvideo.org/. We'd want to post the videos under a CC like license (c) whoever the speaker is. Within only a few months we'd have quite a number of short, useful videos on Python given by a diverse number of dojo members. We'd like to know if this idea is a go-er..? N. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPZynYAAoJEP0qBPaYQbb6SRAIAIm4/M1rsEyFB7WEkckXWEyJ c6MRRCz/PMsOdML2b4NxMqxp4VAOjf32PVa5WJh6xLoybY9oe+hRB+qivmZrJMTl CQTGrO4Ucm1RfJFKXhN7LBakewdt0BFqC/zwBKcCUBu4U0jQWtqva3KPord3wMoB 6t/EsxowsYHg9ghhV+RNnNaSTqrBTkrI0MzEQXs6ze7rQnZAH3Ntw0Ko2Cfyfk1B RV0GdMjxxYsHtmbC4YK2rqBqSwTFK6F5CQ4Qtv26oy1wsg0HRpc+UucoLsX8tAdk 7FWxJ472zxOVeiZvaWSXiXBum0g5H8nLeupf+y6rrDG1Z4Zj2jqnQSSv89R/P3A= =zhm5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jamesbroadhead at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 14:17:32 2012 From: jamesbroadhead at gmail.com (James Broadhead) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 13:17:32 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] London Dojo Idea: Module of the Month / Lightning Talks In-Reply-To: <4F6729D8.6040502@ntoll.org> References: <4F6729D8.6040502@ntoll.org> Message-ID: On 19 March 2012 12:43, Nicholas H.Tollervey wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > > Last week the London Python Code Dojo cat-herders were discussing the > possibility of making the lightning talks a permanent feature with the > following considerations: > > * Talks *strictly* limited to 5mins with an additional 2mins for > questions. > * No more than 3 lightning talks per dojo. > * At least one of the talks to be titled "Module of the Month" where > someone gives us the skinny on a core module or well known / useful > external module. > * Lightning talks to be recorded and posted on a ldbpydojo YouTube > channel and aggregated via http://pyvideo.org/. > > We'd want to post the videos under a CC like license (c) whoever the > speaker is. Within only a few months we'd have quite a number of > short, useful videos on Python given by a diverse number of dojo members. > > We'd like to know if this idea is a go-er..? > > N. Definitely a good idea - provided that there's an obvious timer available to the presenter. Perhaps a "no interactive demos" rule would be good, as these always take more time than you'd imagine. For weeks with fewer than 3 talks, it might be nice to show videos from other events in that time slot(or from other Dojos etc.). From rami.chowdhury at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 14:19:33 2012 From: rami.chowdhury at gmail.com (Rami Chowdhury) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 13:19:33 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] PyCon By Video? In-Reply-To: References: <2B7FDE2C-DC00-4242-A633-3BD0C139D7AA@gmail.com> <4F67264B.4030003@tartley.com> <4F672A91.4090603@ntoll.org> Message-ID: On Mar 19, 2012, at 1:01 PM, Bruce Durling wrote: > You can do stuff in the cafe or workshop spaces at Hub Westminster for > free on Saturday's as a part of their Hub Twilight program. > > What day were you thinking of? Well I was thinking it might have to be a weekend afternoon -- a weekday evening wouldn't give us time for more than a couple of recorded talks IMHO. If a Saturday afternoon might work for people, seems like Skills Matter or Hub Westminster are both options? > > cheers, > Bruce > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:53, Ed Stafford > wrote: >> The Hub Kings Cross is another nice place to have things hosted at, though I >> think there may be costs associate with it. Might be worth looking into as >> well. >> >> -Ed >> >> >> >> On 19 March 2012 12:46, Nicholas H.Tollervey wrote: >>> >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> +1. How about contacting Skills Matters..? They have a large screen, >>> bandwidth, chairs and help (use of premises free IIRC) community >>> organised free events. Also, there is already a precedent... the >>> London Android guys all watch the GoogleIO videos together (sometime >>> live with popcorn) ;-) >>> >>> N. >>> >>> On 19/03/12 12:31, Tom Wright wrote: >>>> I'd be keen! >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Jonathan Hartley >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> Definitely interested. I did attend, and have been catching up on >>>> videos of talks I missed ever since, but that's still six days >>>> worth of video to catch up on, so I'd way rather do some of it >>>> accompanied by discussion with other like-minded geeks. >>>> >>>> Should we guesstimate numbers then brainstorm venues? >>>> >>>> Jonathan >>>> >>>> >>>> On 19/03/2012 12:13, Rami Chowdhury wrote: >>>> >>>> Hey everyone, >>>> >>>> A couple of years ago my then-local Python user group had an >>>> afternoon-long mini-PyCon -- we watched a few of the talk videos, >>>> argued about them, and generally had a good time and learned a lot. >>>> It was great for those who couldn't make it all the way to the >>>> conference, but also pretty good for those who could -- since PyCon >>>> had so many great talks it was impossible to go to all of them. Now >>>> that the videos are popping up rapidly after PyCon, I was wondering >>>> if there might be an appetite for a similar meet-up in London? >>>> >>>> Cheers, Rami >>>> >>>> ---- Rami Chowdhury "A mind all logic is like a knife all blade - >>>> it makes the hand bleed that uses it." -- Rabindranath Tagore >>>> +44-7581-430-517 >>>> >>>> _________________________________________________ python-uk mailing >>>> list python-uk at python.org >>>> http://mail.python.org/__mailman/listinfo/python-uk >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- Jonathan Hartley tartley at tartley.com >>>> http://tartley.com Made of meat. >>>> +44 7737 062 225 twitter/skype: >>>> tartley >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _________________________________________________ python-uk mailing >>>> list python-uk at python.org >>>> http://mail.python.org/__mailman/listinfo/python-uk >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ python-uk mailing >>>> list python-uk at python.org >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk >>> >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) >>> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ >>> >>> iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPZyqRAAoJEP0qBPaYQbb6wqAH/j3pj3WW7enH1fXeF6qZ+hVL >>> TjOYTCoCMqkxDF4MCtTjcOVpmFwF9LHoITABplZGy2S5cHXD08Qql0c5f3/3iIGe >>> NJ4lAbdt4HdxlhYSw4DbcOsood+JAFXEYEfFk4upAjKq3EfpbJ6pkVhnOjsHdWsa >>> wHFJA5xnz3tmn9J0ezjFU879NdKZNMnf2YU6rwvRD2XB09Upn1vQRTl/xC/ize/h >>> WeKbwF4qH1XHU/q4WX8huP5h+i/jLPrja65kuQWJlshJyX9ACphS/RbsuiTURnMF >>> 9Elx6L3thL6zZNdWuAYs2FsGv8yA9IyASF3Po6ky+fk8tv5tFbfk/H9iS/57tAY= >>> =YvAX >>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> _______________________________________________ >>> python-uk mailing list >>> python-uk at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> python-uk mailing list >> python-uk at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk >> > > > > -- > CTO & co-founder > @MastodonC > mastodonc.com > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk ---- Rami Chowdhury "A mind all logic is like a knife all blade - it makes the hand bleed that uses it." -- Rabindranath Tagore +44-7581-430-517 From mail at timgolden.me.uk Mon Mar 19 14:20:09 2012 From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 13:20:09 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] London Dojo Idea: Module of the Month / Lightning Talks In-Reply-To: References: <4F6729D8.6040502@ntoll.org> Message-ID: <4F673289.5020809@timgolden.me.uk> On 19/03/2012 13:17, James Broadhead wrote: > Definitely a good idea - provided that there's an obvious timer > available to the presenter. In the past, someone with a smartphone and a silly noise has played this role. Presumably someone could do this. (My phone won't unless I count to 300 slowly and then ring myself). TJG From rami.chowdhury at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 14:20:36 2012 From: rami.chowdhury at gmail.com (Rami Chowdhury) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 13:20:36 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] London Dojo Idea: Module of the Month / Lightning Talks In-Reply-To: References: <4F6729D8.6040502@ntoll.org> Message-ID: On Mar 19, 2012, at 1:17 PM, James Broadhead wrote: > On 19 March 2012 12:43, Nicholas H.Tollervey wrote: >> >> Last week the London Python Code Dojo cat-herders were discussing the >> possibility of making the lightning talks a permanent feature with the >> following considerations: >> >> * Talks *strictly* limited to 5mins with an additional 2mins for >> questions. >> * No more than 3 lightning talks per dojo. >> * At least one of the talks to be titled "Module of the Month" where >> someone gives us the skinny on a core module or well known / useful >> external module. >> * Lightning talks to be recorded and posted on a ldbpydojo YouTube >> channel and aggregated via http://pyvideo.org/. >> >> We'd want to post the videos under a CC like license (c) whoever the >> speaker is. Within only a few months we'd have quite a number of >> short, useful videos on Python given by a diverse number of dojo members. >> >> We'd like to know if this idea is a go-er..? > > Definitely a good idea - provided that there's an obvious timer > available to the presenter. +1 > Perhaps a "no interactive demos" rule would be good, as these always > take more time than you'd imagine. > > For weeks with fewer than 3 talks, it might be nice to show videos > from other events in that time slot(or from other Dojos etc.). > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk ---- Rami Chowdhury "A mind all logic is like a knife all blade - it makes the hand bleed that uses it." -- Rabindranath Tagore +44-7581-430-517 From ntoll at ntoll.org Mon Mar 19 14:22:04 2012 From: ntoll at ntoll.org (Nicholas H.Tollervey) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 13:22:04 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] London Dojo Idea: Module of the Month / Lightning Talks In-Reply-To: References: <4F6729D8.6040502@ntoll.org> Message-ID: <4F6732FC.9040102@ntoll.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 19/03/12 13:17, James Broadhead wrote: > Definitely a good idea - provided that there's an obvious timer > available to the presenter. Absolutely, with appropriate warning placards for the cat-herder to wave at the appropriate moments in time. If people know they only have 5mins then they can rehearse. > Perhaps a "no interactive demos" rule would be good, as these > always take more time than you'd imagine. > Quite. Although the odd technical hitch could be edited out. I suppose we could say you only have one life for a technical hitch otherwise we insist you keep to the time. > For weeks with fewer than 3 talks, it might be nice to show videos > from other events in that time slot(or from other Dojos etc.). Good idea... (see the other very interesting thread going on at the moment). N. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPZzL8AAoJEP0qBPaYQbb6kL8H/1PnJdz0smiz1DT0yjKG46Zw 0HZCDbqQkVF8eI1K/Q12TRnYqOg1p+q4cdVTgX/J3wXxmX785YRMEMk7aJtcfNh6 7ZIIcXj4FZoz4bCWApz1F/MRgOQxnBIicJOID+s2iUwXQfVb9anK/gh+93Us8vW5 cZkxcCy9WfZgcQp9vCDd5d071X0Mkr2e8+VVq3MGaC5VxOO/Q8ZXnb0mtqqC6nGy abQh1sJAZiXjSW3829tgAAuEkOkOaXQe/rO+58yiNNOSHfNBMDUvYfPfQEH2rjHo hU8lPkGnG8Q8MBfBIylMUNWnrGyJAeyub3vnwjOvUYIkgLdVo8HoGEJAC5RHq7k= =jI0f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From bld at otfrom.com Mon Mar 19 14:37:45 2012 From: bld at otfrom.com (Bruce Durling) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 13:37:45 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] PyCon By Video? In-Reply-To: References: <2B7FDE2C-DC00-4242-A633-3BD0C139D7AA@gmail.com> <4F67264B.4030003@tartley.com> <4F672A91.4090603@ntoll.org> Message-ID: Rami, On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 13:19, Rami Chowdhury wrote: > > On Mar 19, 2012, at 1:01 PM, Bruce Durling wrote: > >> You can do stuff in the cafe or workshop spaces at Hub Westminster for >> free on Saturday's as a part of their Hub Twilight program. >> >> What day were you thinking of? > > Well I was thinking it might have to be a weekend afternoon -- a weekday evening wouldn't give us time for more than a couple of recorded talks IMHO. If a Saturday afternoon might work for people, seems like Skills Matter or Hub Westminster are both options? Skills Matter aren't open on weekends (not even for paid things usually). So Hub Westminster might be the way to go. Let me know if you want me to put you in touch with Alice Fung who runs it. cheers, Bruce -- CTO & co-founder @MastodonC mastodonc.com From rami.chowdhury at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 14:54:04 2012 From: rami.chowdhury at gmail.com (Rami Chowdhury) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 13:54:04 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] PyCon By Video? In-Reply-To: References: <2B7FDE2C-DC00-4242-A633-3BD0C139D7AA@gmail.com> <4F67264B.4030003@tartley.com> <4F672A91.4090603@ntoll.org> Message-ID: <070E3FBC-378A-41D4-BF26-AE637BA90A61@gmail.com> On Mar 19, 2012, at 1:37 PM, Bruce Durling wrote: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 13:19, Rami Chowdhury wrote: >> >> On Mar 19, 2012, at 1:01 PM, Bruce Durling wrote: >>> You can do stuff in the cafe or workshop spaces at Hub Westminster for >>> free on Saturday's as a part of their Hub Twilight program. >>> >>> What day were you thinking of? >> >> Well I was thinking it might have to be a weekend afternoon -- a weekday evening wouldn't give us time for more than a couple of recorded talks IMHO. If a Saturday afternoon might work for people, seems like Skills Matter or Hub Westminster are both options? > > Skills Matter aren't open on weekends (not even for paid things > usually). So Hub Westminster might be the way to go. Oops, wasn't aware of that. So another question out, to test the water ... what do people favor, weekday evening or weekend afternoon? ---- Rami Chowdhury "A mind all logic is like a knife all blade - it makes the hand bleed that uses it." -- Rabindranath Tagore +44-7581-430-517 From flub at devork.be Mon Mar 19 15:00:11 2012 From: flub at devork.be (Floris Bruynooghe) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:00:11 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] London Dojo Idea: Module of the Month / Lightning Talks In-Reply-To: <4F673289.5020809@timgolden.me.uk> References: <4F6729D8.6040502@ntoll.org> <4F673289.5020809@timgolden.me.uk> Message-ID: On 19 March 2012 13:20, Tim Golden wrote: > On 19/03/2012 13:17, James Broadhead wrote: >> >> Definitely a good idea - provided that there's an obvious timer >> available to the presenter. > > In the past, someone with a smartphone and a silly noise has > played this role. Presumably someone could do this. (My phone > won't unless I count to 300 slowly and then ring myself). Simple 3-2-1 minute signs held up by someone on the first row seems to work fine usually. It's lovely low-tech and proven to work at Europython and Pycon UK. Regards, Floris -- Debian GNU/Linux -- The Power of Freedom www.debian.org | www.gnu.org | www.kernel.org From ntoll at ntoll.org Mon Mar 19 15:01:31 2012 From: ntoll at ntoll.org (Nicholas H.Tollervey) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:01:31 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] PyCon By Video? In-Reply-To: <070E3FBC-378A-41D4-BF26-AE637BA90A61@gmail.com> References: <2B7FDE2C-DC00-4242-A633-3BD0C139D7AA@gmail.com> <4F67264B.4030003@tartley.com> <4F672A91.4090603@ntoll.org> <070E3FBC-378A-41D4-BF26-AE637BA90A61@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F673C3B.9060506@ntoll.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > > Oops, wasn't aware of that. So another question out, to test the > water ... what do people favor, weekday evening or weekend > afternoon? > I can't do weekends... family time is precious. Early starting evenings are good for me (Tues / Thurs are best). I think the suggestion of the session being long enough for discussion is *important*. N. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPZzw7AAoJEP0qBPaYQbb6FmcH/0MErlM29u35gab7gMQaoK+x qXZ2+3G9VxEiI53UHgKcPoSyg982A1qWEjK1Q8bmdnrGLFXKHYS3RPQbWtHPvSGX 90aIh7sUok1YDl8R8u/M19bP6azZD+yykGG2LJrFDAoemp0C1y4iVRLk/rFEQ5Qh US7l2PPMnArUmtSXFZJtWj2K+J6mLayoVcqgTMnBPxuxZsGFQtT0AxvtI8y51lDm 5xnpWz/ewLdJ7GqRiU4IuhPPj4XkZmeOv38opzA5V/4ZQ6WBWDvxw2U1VFf4E+nn FX3+XII4QtpdZKJ3by4jl9j9xZrs/ILBBwo69L6V43ut/dO28uVNzKukfYQNbJk= =Bo7a -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From david at deadpansincerity.com Mon Mar 19 15:06:31 2012 From: david at deadpansincerity.com (David Miller) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:06:31 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] London Dojo Idea: Module of the Month / Lightning Talks In-Reply-To: References: <4F6729D8.6040502@ntoll.org> <4F673289.5020809@timgolden.me.uk> Message-ID: +1 on the idea in general Another colour for the timer bikeshed: http://osjam.appspot.com/timer? -- Love regards etc David Miller http://www.deadpansincerity.com 07854 880 883 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tartley at tartley.com Mon Mar 19 15:08:41 2012 From: tartley at tartley.com (Jonathan Hartley) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:08:41 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] London Dojo Idea: Module of the Month / Lightning Talks In-Reply-To: References: <4F6729D8.6040502@ntoll.org> Message-ID: <4F673DE9.5080205@tartley.com> On 19/03/2012 13:17, James Broadhead wrote: > On 19 March 2012 12:43, Nicholas H.Tollervey wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Hi, >> >> Last week the London Python Code Dojo cat-herders were discussing the >> possibility of making the lightning talks a permanent feature with the >> following considerations: >> >> * Talks *strictly* limited to 5mins with an additional 2mins for >> questions. >> * No more than 3 lightning talks per dojo. >> * At least one of the talks to be titled "Module of the Month" where >> someone gives us the skinny on a core module or well known / useful >> external module. >> * Lightning talks to be recorded and posted on a ldbpydojo YouTube >> channel and aggregated via http://pyvideo.org/. >> >> We'd want to post the videos under a CC like license (c) whoever the >> speaker is. Within only a few months we'd have quite a number of >> short, useful videos on Python given by a diverse number of dojo members. >> >> We'd like to know if this idea is a go-er..? >> >> N. > Definitely a good idea - provided that there's an obvious timer > available to the presenter. > Perhaps a "no interactive demos" rule would be good, as these always > take more time than you'd imagine. But I *like* interactive / live-coding demos! I'd rather make sure the speakers know they **will** be cut-off in mid-stride if they overrun than attempting to govern duration by the fairly indirect proxy of talk format. > For weeks with fewer than 3 talks, it might be nice to show videos > from other events in that time slot(or from other Dojos etc.). > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > -- Jonathan Hartley tartley at tartley.com http://tartley.com Made of meat. +44 7737 062 225 twitter/skype: tartley From jamesbroadhead at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 15:16:28 2012 From: jamesbroadhead at gmail.com (James Broadhead) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:16:28 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] London Dojo Idea: Module of the Month / Lightning Talks In-Reply-To: <4F673DE9.5080205@tartley.com> References: <4F6729D8.6040502@ntoll.org> <4F673DE9.5080205@tartley.com> Message-ID: On 19 March 2012 14:08, Jonathan Hartley wrote: > On 19/03/2012 13:17, James Broadhead wrote: >> >> Perhaps a "no interactive demos" rule would be good, as these always >> take more time than you'd imagine. > > But I *like* interactive / live-coding demos! I'd rather make sure the > speakers know they **will** be cut-off in mid-stride if they overrun than > attempting to govern duration by the fairly indirect proxy of talk format. So do I, but in my experience they're the easiest way for the presenter to completely lose track of time. If we were talking about two 7.5 minute talks, yes. For a 5-minute talk though ... I quite liked the semi-interactive (pseudo-interactive?) presentation shell from last time's default argument talk, in that it managed to replace slides with alternating printed code examples and running code (without the presenter touching the keyboard). {Was a link to that shared around?} From pyuk at getaroundtoit.co.uk Mon Mar 19 23:15:41 2012 From: pyuk at getaroundtoit.co.uk (David Neil) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 11:15:41 +1300 Subject: [python-uk] London Dojo Idea: Module of the Month / Lightning Talks In-Reply-To: References: <4F6729D8.6040502@ntoll.org> <4F673DE9.5080205@tartley.com> Message-ID: <4F67B00D.5040605@getaroundtoit.co.uk> On 20/03/12 03:16, James Broadhead wrote: > On 19 March 2012 14:08, Jonathan Hartley wrote: >> On 19/03/2012 13:17, James Broadhead wrote: >>> >>> Perhaps a "no interactive demos" rule would be good, as these always >>> take more time than you'd imagine. >> >> But I *like* interactive / live-coding demos! I'd rather make sure the >> speakers know they **will** be cut-off in mid-stride if they overrun than >> attempting to govern duration by the fairly indirect proxy of talk format. > > So do I, but in my experience they're the easiest way for the > presenter to completely lose track of time. If we were talking about > two 7.5 minute talks, yes. For a 5-minute talk though ... > > I quite liked the semi-interactive (pseudo-interactive?) presentation > shell from last time's default argument talk, in that it managed to > replace slides with alternating printed code examples and running code > (without the presenter touching the keyboard). {Was a link to that > shared around?} Why place limits? Is there such a glut of speakers that some can be turned-away? (ok, there are some people who become over-enthusiastic about their 'latest' or with an inflated idea of their own import - or that of their arcane subject, but what has been our experience of such within the group?) Obvious comments: - every speaker is a volunteer (treat with respect) - few are skilled at public speaking (help along and offer forgiveness) - most shrink from the idea of standing in-front (encourage not discourage) I too enjoy (and probably learn more from) a well-delivered presentation (eg font size is legible), especially live-demos. However I suggest that just the length of the necessary set-up and break-down times preclude most them from the realm of a 'lightning talk'. Thus it seems reasonable to ask the victim, um, volunteer how long (s)he reasonably needs (and then add for a number of factors - not least the idea that unless practised, most have no idea of 'how long'! Then add for our old friend Murphy and other contingency time!) Accordingly I wouldn't (normally) consider a "demo" as a "lightning talk" - although I do consider demos "valuable contributions". - what is the purpose of a "Lightning Talk"? - is it easier to find ppl who will talk for five minutes or those who can manage 45? - are Lightning talks a valid component of the Dojo format? (listening = theory cf Dojo = practice? - perhaps!) As an organiser of meetings I see Lightning Talks as a way of encouraging someone mindful of the above three "Obvious Comments" - (s)he only has to cover a few points, and quickly. There is no long lead-up, no need to be previously internationally-acclaimed, and no expectation of skilfully-inserted humorous quips or other 'polish'. However this also means that some can be truly dreadful. OTOH as someone who has been trained to 'speak' I have attended talks where I have been cringing (both for myself and for the speaker) and yet some in the audience have become fired-up by the topic and the event has taken on a life of its own. Each to his own! As a speaker, it is a way of showing what I've been doing/learning or something that I have produced recently. As such that makes me a 'student' or a 'producer'. Neither of these terms is a synonym for 'dynamic speaker' (necessarily). Accordingly, I may not be equipped with super whiz-bang presentation tools, and may be relying upon a few scribbled notes and my portable (or indeed, a white-board marker). However I have something to say that may interest my peers - and all for the better if it helps me find someone else who is willing to tinker with my project or to improve my understanding (even a neophyte asking me to explain how I did 'it' is likely to improve my understanding too). The fact remains: some topics (and some people) are BORING and keeping to time/project plans is not something for which techs are famous (add obligatory Douglas Adams quote about deadlines). On the other hand, some presentations generate a huge interest/number of questions from the audience. The task of deciding whether the 'time limit' should be applied falls to the meeting chair-person. This is where the skill (and luck?) should lie - not with the speakers! There are some topics/speakers which are best shut-down early. Some seem to be well-received but only by a narrow sub-section of those present - and thus can be stopped 'for time' but with the promise that they will resume in the pub afterwards... Conversely to stop something that has 'burst into flame', purely on the basis of a fairly arbitrary round-number time-limit, would be a clear negative (IMHO). If people leave the meeting talking about 'that great talk' then the meeting is a ***success*** (as long as those who came to the meeting expecting the advertised content are also leaving satisfied)! Oh yes, chairing a meeting is a juggling act too! Guideline or law? Zero tolerance or sensible management? Encourage contribution or become moribund? -- Regards, =dn From peter.inglesby at gmail.com Tue Mar 20 00:09:41 2012 From: peter.inglesby at gmail.com (Peter Inglesby) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 23:09:41 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] London Dojo Idea: Module of the Month / Lightning Talks In-Reply-To: References: <4F6729D8.6040502@ntoll.org> <4F673DE9.5080205@tartley.com> Message-ID: > > > I quite liked the semi-interactive (pseudo-interactive?) presentation > shell from last time's default argument talk, in that it managed to > replace slides with alternating printed code examples and running code > (without the presenter touching the keyboard). {Was a link to that > shared around?} > > I've just put this on github: https://github.com/inglesp/prescons -- hopefully somebody will find this useful! Let me know if you have any suggestions or find any bugs. (Also, I've not forgotten that I said I'd write up my lightening talk -- it's still on my TODO list.) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tartley at tartley.com Tue Mar 20 00:44:29 2012 From: tartley at tartley.com (Jonathan Hartley) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 23:44:29 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] London Dojo Idea: Module of the Month / Lightning Talks In-Reply-To: <4F67B00D.5040605@getaroundtoit.co.uk> References: <4F6729D8.6040502@ntoll.org> <4F673DE9.5080205@tartley.com> <4F67B00D.5040605@getaroundtoit.co.uk> Message-ID: <4F67C4DD.8010402@tartley.com> On 19/03/2012 22:15, David Neil wrote: > On 20/03/12 03:16, James Broadhead wrote: >> On 19 March 2012 14:08, Jonathan Hartley wrote: >>> On 19/03/2012 13:17, James Broadhead wrote: >>>> >>>> Perhaps a "no interactive demos" rule would be good, as these always >>>> take more time than you'd imagine. >>> >>> But I *like* interactive / live-coding demos! I'd rather make sure the >>> speakers know they **will** be cut-off in mid-stride if they overrun >>> than >>> attempting to govern duration by the fairly indirect proxy of talk >>> format. >> >> So do I, but in my experience they're the easiest way for the >> presenter to completely lose track of time. If we were talking about >> two 7.5 minute talks, yes. For a 5-minute talk though ... >> >> I quite liked the semi-interactive (pseudo-interactive?) presentation >> shell from last time's default argument talk, in that it managed to >> replace slides with alternating printed code examples and running code >> (without the presenter touching the keyboard). {Was a link to that >> shared around?} > > Why place limits? The primary purpose of the meeting is not the lightning talks, although they are a welcome bonus - but they eat into time for the remainder of the dojo. -- Jonathan Hartley tartley at tartley.com http://tartley.com Made of meat. +44 7737 062 225 twitter/skype: tartley From rami.chowdhury at gmail.com Tue Mar 20 14:03:10 2012 From: rami.chowdhury at gmail.com (Rami Chowdhury) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 13:03:10 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] PyCon By Video? In-Reply-To: <4F673C3B.9060506@ntoll.org> References: <2B7FDE2C-DC00-4242-A633-3BD0C139D7AA@gmail.com> <4F67264B.4030003@tartley.com> <4F672A91.4090603@ntoll.org> <070E3FBC-378A-41D4-BF26-AE637BA90A61@gmail.com> <4F673C3B.9060506@ntoll.org> Message-ID: <83C50554-0C07-4F2B-ACFA-7B73639F22ED@gmail.com> Folks, I've been in touch with a possible venue (Hub Westminster) and they can offer us the space Tuesday evenings or Saturdays. I've created a Doodle poll with the next few Tuesdays and Saturdays, please fill in when you might be able to make it: http://www.doodle.com/t8x83ab7n989pv64 Please do also suggest alternative times if those don't work for you! Cheers, Rami On Mar 19, 2012, at 2:01 PM, Nicholas H.Tollervey wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> Oops, wasn't aware of that. So another question out, to test the >> water ... what do people favor, weekday evening or weekend >> afternoon? >> > > I can't do weekends... family time is precious. Early starting > evenings are good for me (Tues / Thurs are best). > > I think the suggestion of the session being long enough for discussion > is *important*. > > N. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPZzw7AAoJEP0qBPaYQbb6FmcH/0MErlM29u35gab7gMQaoK+x > qXZ2+3G9VxEiI53UHgKcPoSyg982A1qWEjK1Q8bmdnrGLFXKHYS3RPQbWtHPvSGX > 90aIh7sUok1YDl8R8u/M19bP6azZD+yykGG2LJrFDAoemp0C1y4iVRLk/rFEQ5Qh > US7l2PPMnArUmtSXFZJtWj2K+J6mLayoVcqgTMnBPxuxZsGFQtT0AxvtI8y51lDm > 5xnpWz/ewLdJ7GqRiU4IuhPPj4XkZmeOv38opzA5V/4ZQ6WBWDvxw2U1VFf4E+nn > FX3+XII4QtpdZKJ3by4jl9j9xZrs/ILBBwo69L6V43ut/dO28uVNzKukfYQNbJk= > =Bo7a > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk ---- Rami Chowdhury "A mind all logic is like a knife all blade - it makes the hand bleed that uses it." -- Rabindranath Tagore +44-7581-430-517 From rami.chowdhury at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 17:12:12 2012 From: rami.chowdhury at gmail.com (Rami Chowdhury) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 16:12:12 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] PyCon By Video? In-Reply-To: <83C50554-0C07-4F2B-ACFA-7B73639F22ED@gmail.com> References: <2B7FDE2C-DC00-4242-A633-3BD0C139D7AA@gmail.com> <4F67264B.4030003@tartley.com> <4F672A91.4090603@ntoll.org> <070E3FBC-378A-41D4-BF26-AE637BA90A61@gmail.com> <4F673C3B.9060506@ntoll.org> <83C50554-0C07-4F2B-ACFA-7B73639F22ED@gmail.com> Message-ID: <15D666D2-3979-4F67-A15E-27437DC0F0CA@gmail.com> Hey everyone, Looking at the Doodle (http://www.doodle.com/t8x83ab7n989pv64) it seems that either next Tuesday (27th March) or in a couple of weeks (10th April) works best for everyone. While I don't want to lose the PyCon momentum by delaying unnecessarily, it's also the London Clojure dojo next Tuesday and I know there are a couple of Pythonistas (including myself) who are interested. So I'm tentatively going to say let's do this Tuesday the 10th of April, in the evening -- I'll organize us the space with Hub Westminster, and try to set up a list of talk videos so we can decide what we want to watch and argue about that evening. Cheers, Rami On Mar 20, 2012, at 1:03 PM, Rami Chowdhury wrote: > Folks, > > I've been in touch with a possible venue (Hub Westminster) and they can offer us the space Tuesday evenings or Saturdays. I've created a Doodle poll with the next few Tuesdays and Saturdays, please fill in when you might be able to make it: http://www.doodle.com/t8x83ab7n989pv64 > > Please do also suggest alternative times if those don't work for you! > > Cheers, > Rami > > On Mar 19, 2012, at 2:01 PM, Nicholas H.Tollervey wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >>> >> >>> Oops, wasn't aware of that. So another question out, to test the >>> water ... what do people favor, weekday evening or weekend >>> afternoon? >>> >> >> I can't do weekends... family time is precious. Early starting >> evenings are good for me (Tues / Thurs are best). >> >> I think the suggestion of the session being long enough for discussion >> is *important*. >> >> N. >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) >> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ >> >> iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPZzw7AAoJEP0qBPaYQbb6FmcH/0MErlM29u35gab7gMQaoK+x >> qXZ2+3G9VxEiI53UHgKcPoSyg982A1qWEjK1Q8bmdnrGLFXKHYS3RPQbWtHPvSGX >> 90aIh7sUok1YDl8R8u/M19bP6azZD+yykGG2LJrFDAoemp0C1y4iVRLk/rFEQ5Qh >> US7l2PPMnArUmtSXFZJtWj2K+J6mLayoVcqgTMnBPxuxZsGFQtT0AxvtI8y51lDm >> 5xnpWz/ewLdJ7GqRiU4IuhPPj4XkZmeOv38opzA5V/4ZQ6WBWDvxw2U1VFf4E+nn >> FX3+XII4QtpdZKJ3by4jl9j9xZrs/ILBBwo69L6V43ut/dO28uVNzKukfYQNbJk= >> =Bo7a >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> _______________________________________________ >> python-uk mailing list >> python-uk at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > > ---- > Rami Chowdhury > "A mind all logic is like a knife all blade - it makes the hand bleed that uses it." -- Rabindranath Tagore > +44-7581-430-517 > ---- Rami Chowdhury "A mind all logic is like a knife all blade - it makes the hand bleed that uses it." -- Rabindranath Tagore +44-7581-430-517 From ntoll at ntoll.org Wed Mar 21 17:19:23 2012 From: ntoll at ntoll.org (Nicholas H.Tollervey) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 16:19:23 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] PyCon By Video? In-Reply-To: <15D666D2-3979-4F67-A15E-27437DC0F0CA@gmail.com> References: <2B7FDE2C-DC00-4242-A633-3BD0C139D7AA@gmail.com> <4F67264B.4030003@tartley.com> <4F672A91.4090603@ntoll.org> <070E3FBC-378A-41D4-BF26-AE637BA90A61@gmail.com> <4F673C3B.9060506@ntoll.org> <83C50554-0C07-4F2B-ACFA-7B73639F22ED@gmail.com> <15D666D2-3979-4F67-A15E-27437DC0F0CA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F69FF8B.40309@ntoll.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Awesomeness on stilts and +1 on the date. N. On 21/03/12 16:12, Rami Chowdhury wrote: > Hey everyone, > > Looking at the Doodle (http://www.doodle.com/t8x83ab7n989pv64) it > seems that either next Tuesday (27th March) or in a couple of weeks > (10th April) works best for everyone. While I don't want to lose > the PyCon momentum by delaying unnecessarily, it's also the London > Clojure dojo next Tuesday and I know there are a couple of > Pythonistas (including myself) who are interested. > > So I'm tentatively going to say let's do this Tuesday the 10th of > April, in the evening -- I'll organize us the space with Hub > Westminster, and try to set up a list of talk videos so we can > decide what we want to watch and argue about that evening. > > Cheers, Rami > > On Mar 20, 2012, at 1:03 PM, Rami Chowdhury wrote: > >> Folks, >> >> I've been in touch with a possible venue (Hub Westminster) and >> they can offer us the space Tuesday evenings or Saturdays. I've >> created a Doodle poll with the next few Tuesdays and Saturdays, >> please fill in when you might be able to make it: >> http://www.doodle.com/t8x83ab7n989pv64 >> >> Please do also suggest alternative times if those don't work for >> you! >> >> Cheers, Rami >> >> On Mar 19, 2012, at 2:01 PM, Nicholas H.Tollervey wrote: >> >>>>> > >>>>> Oops, wasn't aware of that. So another question out, to >>>>> test the water ... what do people favor, weekday evening or >>>>> weekend afternoon? >>>>> > > I can't do weekends... family time is precious. Early starting > evenings are good for me (Tues / Thurs are best). > > I think the suggestion of the session being long enough for > discussion is *important*. > > N. >>> _______________________________________________ python-uk >>> mailing list python-uk at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk >> >> ---- Rami Chowdhury "A mind all logic is like a knife all blade - >> it makes the hand bleed that uses it." -- Rabindranath Tagore >> +44-7581-430-517 >> > > ---- Rami Chowdhury "A mind all logic is like a knife all blade - > it makes the hand bleed that uses it." -- Rabindranath Tagore > +44-7581-430-517 > > _______________________________________________ python-uk mailing > list python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPaf+LAAoJEP0qBPaYQbb6OykH/iJ02FSn/xQynn/HTZB9WJiB xy8ZLtmTwBfgyGTu5kqwwkxfmbvrKEMPcIcXcPNjFrfkkS7mjfzvAS5SHbp6hW7J YtFHHTyYiwM7UTpVzJPRgNumyaupKuYHrD03DFqLSsjBPwdjxUuc1dkDBeS9++vD PoS1h97PqeBzklKMGRKJn8REXQnbdjrscbOqQhEU64Adv5lRmir+04xVBT/y59m2 tj7G3GVPuz5A1QbGNVq6YFqUp3niSx9jvvbwnr0LyyrS89Z4TQrFPXGLgXhAYZxz yXuWCWFq9sudGBCSCWYC/eyqzV7rKzh3CCji9jgdAM4zUdfCfP2uO2APrzxvdoM= =aeNx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rami.chowdhury at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 17:22:24 2012 From: rami.chowdhury at gmail.com (Rami Chowdhury) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 16:22:24 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] PyCon By Video? In-Reply-To: <15D666D2-3979-4F67-A15E-27437DC0F0CA@gmail.com> References: <2B7FDE2C-DC00-4242-A633-3BD0C139D7AA@gmail.com> <4F67264B.4030003@tartley.com> <4F672A91.4090603@ntoll.org> <070E3FBC-378A-41D4-BF26-AE637BA90A61@gmail.com> <4F673C3B.9060506@ntoll.org> <83C50554-0C07-4F2B-ACFA-7B73639F22ED@gmail.com> <15D666D2-3979-4F67-A15E-27437DC0F0CA@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mar 21, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Rami Chowdhury wrote: > Hey everyone, > > Looking at the Doodle (http://www.doodle.com/t8x83ab7n989pv64) it seems that either next Tuesday (27th March) or in a couple of weeks (10th April) works best for everyone. While I don't want to lose the PyCon momentum by delaying unnecessarily, it's also the London Clojure dojo next Tuesday and I know there are a couple of Pythonistas (including myself) who are interested. > > So I'm tentatively going to say let's do this Tuesday the 10th of April, in the evening -- I'll organize us the space with Hub Westminster, and try to set up a list of talk videos so we can decide what we want to watch and argue about that evening. Oops, should have explicitly said: this is by no means a foregone conclusion, please do say if this doesn't work for you or is less convenient or you'd like to suggest a different venue or anything. Cheers, Rami P.S. Can you tell I'm new at this community-event-organizing? If I'm doing it wrong do say so! > > Cheers, > Rami > > On Mar 20, 2012, at 1:03 PM, Rami Chowdhury wrote: > >> Folks, >> >> I've been in touch with a possible venue (Hub Westminster) and they can offer us the space Tuesday evenings or Saturdays. I've created a Doodle poll with the next few Tuesdays and Saturdays, please fill in when you might be able to make it: http://www.doodle.com/t8x83ab7n989pv64 >> >> Please do also suggest alternative times if those don't work for you! >> >> Cheers, >> Rami >> >> On Mar 19, 2012, at 2:01 PM, Nicholas H.Tollervey wrote: >> >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Oops, wasn't aware of that. So another question out, to test the >>>> water ... what do people favor, weekday evening or weekend >>>> afternoon? >>>> >>> >>> I can't do weekends... family time is precious. Early starting >>> evenings are good for me (Tues / Thurs are best). >>> >>> I think the suggestion of the session being long enough for discussion >>> is *important*. >>> >>> N. >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) >>> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ >>> >>> iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPZzw7AAoJEP0qBPaYQbb6FmcH/0MErlM29u35gab7gMQaoK+x >>> qXZ2+3G9VxEiI53UHgKcPoSyg982A1qWEjK1Q8bmdnrGLFXKHYS3RPQbWtHPvSGX >>> 90aIh7sUok1YDl8R8u/M19bP6azZD+yykGG2LJrFDAoemp0C1y4iVRLk/rFEQ5Qh >>> US7l2PPMnArUmtSXFZJtWj2K+J6mLayoVcqgTMnBPxuxZsGFQtT0AxvtI8y51lDm >>> 5xnpWz/ewLdJ7GqRiU4IuhPPj4XkZmeOv38opzA5V/4ZQ6WBWDvxw2U1VFf4E+nn >>> FX3+XII4QtpdZKJ3by4jl9j9xZrs/ILBBwo69L6V43ut/dO28uVNzKukfYQNbJk= >>> =Bo7a >>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> _______________________________________________ >>> python-uk mailing list >>> python-uk at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk >> >> ---- >> Rami Chowdhury >> "A mind all logic is like a knife all blade - it makes the hand bleed that uses it." -- Rabindranath Tagore >> +44-7581-430-517 >> > > ---- > Rami Chowdhury > "A mind all logic is like a knife all blade - it makes the hand bleed that uses it." -- Rabindranath Tagore > +44-7581-430-517 > ---- Rami Chowdhury "A mind all logic is like a knife all blade - it makes the hand bleed that uses it." -- Rabindranath Tagore +44-7581-430-517 From ntoll at ntoll.org Wed Mar 21 17:31:00 2012 From: ntoll at ntoll.org (Nicholas H.Tollervey) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 16:31:00 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] PyCon By Video? In-Reply-To: References: <2B7FDE2C-DC00-4242-A633-3BD0C139D7AA@gmail.com> <4F67264B.4030003@tartley.com> <4F672A91.4090603@ntoll.org> <070E3FBC-378A-41D4-BF26-AE637BA90A61@gmail.com> <4F673C3B.9060506@ntoll.org> <83C50554-0C07-4F2B-ACFA-7B73639F22ED@gmail.com> <15D666D2-3979-4F67-A15E-27437DC0F0CA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F6A0244.7040203@ntoll.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 All understood... > P.S. Can you tell I'm new at this community-event-organizing? If > I'm doing it wrong do say so! You're doing great! :-) BTW, Eventwax = free to use for free events and built on Django, whereas Meetup etc, require a fee (just in case you want people to book a ticket). N. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPagJDAAoJEP0qBPaYQbb6HggH/iJx0EYn9XrRqV+qgFT65tLl DUQRuJdCG2pZYQSsyvmdn9SCwk6XD+N8oYCar555hrFUzaNkVDrw0g1d3YhHRN1T 2bZqKGxy03tWqnJavzAGcFAaoygRcvR88P9ne06xSOT6XJHJQVY4BCjtjw89Fxha 8tx5DqzYRx1NXXJ8JzZaY/pgywgEGQAFmxU7ta7mKtcc658ubt5jbdJ59L88EI9p Ix0MbNc/n12bQK2hmjl2gwPqCF6HuJ9gd9Hrt84mJvcrD5gYBeycZkyWY6NJ0Jt3 Gp7BxlQy+0T/gdE5Af7fQR3ilUNKGuyNkpHYMOHVio4A0D1qEySlg/7tLEvCPW4= =ltym -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From bld at otfrom.com Wed Mar 21 18:26:35 2012 From: bld at otfrom.com (Bruce Durling) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 17:26:35 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] PyCon By Video? In-Reply-To: <4F6A0244.7040203@ntoll.org> References: <2B7FDE2C-DC00-4242-A633-3BD0C139D7AA@gmail.com> <4F67264B.4030003@tartley.com> <4F672A91.4090603@ntoll.org> <070E3FBC-378A-41D4-BF26-AE637BA90A61@gmail.com> <4F673C3B.9060506@ntoll.org> <83C50554-0C07-4F2B-ACFA-7B73639F22ED@gmail.com> <15D666D2-3979-4F67-A15E-27437DC0F0CA@gmail.com> <4F6A0244.7040203@ntoll.org> Message-ID: If it is hosted at hub westminster then Alice will need to run it on event brite. On Mar 21, 2012 4:31 PM, "Nicholas H.Tollervey" wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > All understood... > > > P.S. Can you tell I'm new at this community-event-organizing? If > > I'm doing it wrong do say so! > > You're doing great! :-) > > BTW, Eventwax = free to use for free events and built on Django, > whereas Meetup etc, require a fee (just in case you want people to > book a ticket). > > N. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPagJDAAoJEP0qBPaYQbb6HggH/iJx0EYn9XrRqV+qgFT65tLl > DUQRuJdCG2pZYQSsyvmdn9SCwk6XD+N8oYCar555hrFUzaNkVDrw0g1d3YhHRN1T > 2bZqKGxy03tWqnJavzAGcFAaoygRcvR88P9ne06xSOT6XJHJQVY4BCjtjw89Fxha > 8tx5DqzYRx1NXXJ8JzZaY/pgywgEGQAFmxU7ta7mKtcc658ubt5jbdJ59L88EI9p > Ix0MbNc/n12bQK2hmjl2gwPqCF6HuJ9gd9Hrt84mJvcrD5gYBeycZkyWY6NJ0Jt3 > Gp7BxlQy+0T/gdE5Af7fQR3ilUNKGuyNkpHYMOHVio4A0D1qEySlg/7tLEvCPW4= > =ltym > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Extra points to anyone who suggests a Question on the group before the meeting. If you can't think of anything else, there's always the old fallback of something particular about Python that makes it interesting or useful compared to other programming languages (for instance, I might suggest its dedication to introspection). Meetings after that should be: ? Tuesday 1st May, a talks meeting ? Tuesday 5th June, a non-talks meeting ? Tuesday 3rd July, a talks meeting again Tibs From robert at shudderfix.com Sun Mar 25 20:43:19 2012 From: robert at shudderfix.com (Robert Rees) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 19:43:19 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Neo4J, Heroku and Python talk this week Message-ID: Sorry for the shameless self-promotion but I'm doing a talk this coming Wednesday on how to use the graph database Neo4J, Heroku and Python to create simple web apps that drive their behaviour off the underlying graph. Hopefully of interest to people interested in deploying Python apps to Heroku as well as graph heads. Sign up link:http://skillsmatter.com/event/java-jee/neo4j-python From peter.inglesby at gmail.com Wed Mar 28 21:28:08 2012 From: peter.inglesby at gmail.com (Peter Inglesby) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 20:28:08 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Write-up of lightening talk Message-ID: As promised, I've (finally) written up my lightening talk on "using Python's mutable default arguments for fun and profit" [1] from the last London dojo. Any comments or corrections welcome, and I'll try to answer any questions that come up. [1] http://inglesp.github.com/2012/03/24/mutable-default-arguments.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mail at timgolden.me.uk Wed Mar 28 22:27:55 2012 From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 21:27:55 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Write-up of lightening talk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F73744B.9010904@timgolden.me.uk> On 28/03/2012 20:28, Peter Inglesby wrote: > As promised, I've (finally) written up my lightening talk on "using > Python's mutable default arguments for fun and profit" [1] from the last > London dojo. Any comments or corrections welcome, and I'll try to > answer any questions that come up. > > [1] http://inglesp.github.com/2012/03/24/mutable-default-arguments.html Thanks - look forward to reading that up on the Tube TJG From ntoll at ntoll.org Thu Mar 29 09:06:58 2012 From: ntoll at ntoll.org (Nicholas H.Tollervey) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:06:58 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Write-up of lightening talk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F740A12.7080505@ntoll.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 28/03/12 20:28, Peter Inglesby wrote: > As promised, I've (finally) written up my lightening talk on > "using Python's mutable default arguments for fun and profit" [1] > from the last London dojo. Any comments or corrections welcome, > and I'll try to answer any questions that come up. > > [1] > http://inglesp.github.com/2012/03/24/mutable-default-arguments.html > > > > _______________________________________________ python-uk mailing > list python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk Aha... I've been looking forward to this, especially the TCR and "trampoline" stuff you mentioned. N. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPdAoSAAoJEP0qBPaYQbb69soIAIT5HR1pRDRJzM3SI6Njz/Bi hXxLYN26NVkLt0CGcsRcDBCpY16Tvq+pQ4HwDvRlS14Rh6y2uwQQFwpK2zkS9KMG 1c7ZlVDHjwV/BbZ00YqLV38RLJz3X3oqcMVIco9Ew59qwfPLiU/9z6ijZOoQrGiW qURQjRoy+iEFLkz8IrbBmG5qDISa9ZUsbYdfVJ5J1BxO/o8AEC699lT2M0UOYZxT nLrCL6EZjh2ejXQXSvow4zzqSnKTq73i/ZxqsCMUq/SRudfR1+8NzMUithqlRc/x N4Du1TwxSdG2l3LQOmGw+4is65hzUVBfYnudcDs5zq4vmtXAWRUGZbzvaJDyjGc= =nIHi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From groodt at gmail.com Thu Mar 29 11:06:55 2012 From: groodt at gmail.com (Greg Roodt) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 10:06:55 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] London Python Code Dojo (Season 3, Episode 8) Message-ID: Hi Folks, The next London Python Code Dojo is go! It will take place in a week's time on Thursday 5 April from 6:30pm. We'll be meeting at the offices of Fry-IT (the usual location) and will start with an hour of pizza, beer and general socialising (thanks Fry-IT). Coding to follow with an opportunity to win an O'Reilly book at the end. Sign up here: http://ldnpydojo.eventwax.com/london-python-code-dojo-season-3-episode-8 Tickets are usually fully booked within hours so be sure to be quick! See you there, Greg @groodt From groodt at gmail.com Thu Mar 29 12:02:26 2012 From: groodt at gmail.com (Greg Roodt) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 11:02:26 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] April Python Dojo - Lightning talk volunteers Message-ID: Hi Im looking for 2-3 volunteers for lightning talks for the April dojo. If you would like to present a quick informal talk in a friendly atmosphere then please get in touch. Some ideas to get you started: stdlib module of the month, favourite Python package, interesting Python language tricks etc. Anything really that you've discovered along the way in your journey as developer. Cheers Greg From a.cavallo at mailsnare.com Thu Mar 29 23:17:49 2012 From: a.cavallo at mailsnare.com (Antonio) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 22:17:49 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] April Python Dojo - Lightning talk volunteers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2827660B-1165-4C4E-8F67-278D7D662AFE@mailsnare.com> Hi, I can provide a quick overview about exception handling and the logging module. But I cannot make before the end of April because I'mm off on holiday. Thanks On 29 Mar 2012, at 11:02, Greg Roodt wrote: > Hi > > Im looking for 2-3 volunteers for lightning talks for the April dojo. > If you would like to present a quick informal talk in a friendly > atmosphere then please get in touch. > > Some ideas to get you started: stdlib module of the month, favourite > Python package, interesting Python language tricks etc. Anything > really that you've discovered along the way in your journey as > developer. > > Cheers > Greg > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk From ntoll at ntoll.org Fri Mar 30 09:31:43 2012 From: ntoll at ntoll.org (Nicholas H.Tollervey) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 08:31:43 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] April Python Dojo - Lightning talk volunteers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F75615F.4070200@ntoll.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I volunteer to do a "module of the month" on the JSON module (as an antidote to csv) ;-) By the way, does anyone have a half decent video camera we could use to record the talks..? N. On 29/03/12 11:02, Greg Roodt wrote: > Hi > > Im looking for 2-3 volunteers for lightning talks for the April > dojo. If you would like to present a quick informal talk in a > friendly atmosphere then please get in touch. > > Some ideas to get you started: stdlib module of the month, > favourite Python package, interesting Python language tricks etc. > Anything really that you've discovered along the way in your > journey as developer. > > Cheers Greg _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPdWFbAAoJEP0qBPaYQbb660AIAJYbo2YofhTdQ3mkw49SnP1k zPEUArlWfxbAGvOhhgQHpSlU1UEppQ9UEvG6pZRB4gs6FcYYKHV4o/R3cSTjQWvJ 9RHWeH7S+Gp1rCWzkSP6pdpCcB2WAIbezdOVvgQpAopPH/azMnD0YRDkYjq/DFXe LfabGNoUVNn0eBqtpy6tnJc+oU0IvDrJnY2/+AQ5CS8tk2H2HxJtIbEQAwc0I2dz EDqWpQ0h6md6i8TXuJIXsPu94EZ+O0wIaME7Sh7tHjHKTvFcx+Uih9Y0fr9rChhc HCrgQVOf0MOcT9MVi4H1VMCidi+NUqkpqVNMepfjpGF0W1tmyicgeqLl3GdrzMk= =HkPb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From dave at crowdscores.co.uk Fri Mar 30 11:15:32 2012 From: dave at crowdscores.co.uk (David Walker) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 10:15:32 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Fwd: PyCon By Video? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Rami, I don't know how it is going organising this event, but I would be very interested in attending. We at CrowdScores may be interested in helping too. Although we haven't got a big enough space to host it (and you seem to have that covered anyway), we could certainly run to some beer and pizza to help proceedings along. We may ask for 2 mins to plug the exciting vacancies we have for expert python people, but that'd be all! Cheers, -- *David Walker* CrowdScores Ltd +44 7768 082545 +44 20 7486 0225 46 Manchester Street, London W1U 7LS On 21 March 2012 17:26, Bruce Durling wrote: > If it is hosted at hub westminster then Alice will need to run it on event > brite. > On Mar 21, 2012 4:31 PM, "Nicholas H.Tollervey" wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> All understood... >> >> > P.S. Can you tell I'm new at this community-event-organizing? If >> > I'm doing it wrong do say so! >> >> You're doing great! :-) >> >> BTW, Eventwax = free to use for free events and built on Django, >> whereas Meetup etc, require a fee (just in case you want people to >> book a ticket). >> >> N. >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) >> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ >> >> iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPagJDAAoJEP0qBPaYQbb6HggH/iJx0EYn9XrRqV+qgFT65tLl >> DUQRuJdCG2pZYQSsyvmdn9SCwk6XD+N8oYCar555hrFUzaNkVDrw0g1d3YhHRN1T >> 2bZqKGxy03tWqnJavzAGcFAaoygRcvR88P9ne06xSOT6XJHJQVY4BCjtjw89Fxha >> 8tx5DqzYRx1NXXJ8JzZaY/pgywgEGQAFmxU7ta7mKtcc658ubt5jbdJ59L88EI9p >> Ix0MbNc/n12bQK2hmjl2gwPqCF6HuJ9gd9Hrt84mJvcrD5gYBeycZkyWY6NJ0Jt3 >> Gp7BxlQy+0T/gdE5Af7fQR3ilUNKGuyNkpHYMOHVio4A0D1qEySlg/7tLEvCPW4= >> =ltym >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> _______________________________________________ >> python-uk mailing list >> python-uk at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk >> > > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > > -- *David Walker* CrowdScores Ltd +44 7768 082545 +44 20 7486 0225 46 Manchester Street, London W1U 7LS -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carles at pina.cat Fri Mar 30 11:25:00 2012 From: carles at pina.cat (Carles Pina i Estany) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 10:25:00 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] London Python Code Dojo (Season 3, Episode 8) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120330092500.GA25734@pina.cat> Hi, On Mar/29/2012, Greg Roodt wrote: > The next London Python Code Dojo is go! It will take place in a week's > time on Thursday 5 April from 6:30pm. Ohhh... I'll be on the way to the airport. Have fun! I wanted to comment something in the Dojo: at my company (Mendeley) we have an open position: http://www.mendeley.com/careers/london-cpp-qt-software-eng/ It's a position in my team, feel free to contact me if you have some questions/comments (or contact jobs at mendeley.com , say that you come from the Python List). Qt is not required but it's an advantage. It's not in the job spec but Python is used. We also hosted a Python Code Dojo back in November or December (now would be more difficult because some new arrangements in the office). Another interesting position: http://www.mendeley.com/careers/london-hadoop-data-architect/ Feel free to forward! Regards, -- Carles Pina i Estany http://pinux.info From rami.chowdhury at gmail.com Fri Mar 30 13:34:16 2012 From: rami.chowdhury at gmail.com (Rami Chowdhury) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 12:34:16 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] PyCon By Video? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <99E70229-484F-436E-984F-35773C797CC1@gmail.com> Hi David, I'm planning on posting more about it tonight or over the weekend -- my work has gotten in the way of finishing some of the organizational stuff -- but would welcome any help! Sponsorship for beer and pizza would be very much appreciated, for instance -- let's continue this discussion off-list? Cheers, Rami On Mar 30, 2012, at 10:15 AM, David Walker wrote: > Rami, > > I don't know how it is going organising this event, but I would be very interested in attending. > > We at CrowdScores may be interested in helping too. Although we haven't got a big enough space to host it (and you seem to have that covered anyway), we could certainly run to some beer and pizza to help proceedings along. We may ask for 2 mins to plug the exciting vacancies we have for expert python people, but that'd be all! > > Cheers, > -- > David Walker > > CrowdScores Ltd > +44 7768 082545 > +44 20 7486 0225 > 46 Manchester Street, London W1U 7LS > > On 21 March 2012 17:26, Bruce Durling wrote: > If it is hosted at hub westminster then Alice will need to run it on event brite. > > On Mar 21, 2012 4:31 PM, "Nicholas H.Tollervey" wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > All understood... > > > P.S. Can you tell I'm new at this community-event-organizing? If > > I'm doing it wrong do say so! > > You're doing great! :-) > > BTW, Eventwax = free to use for free events and built on Django, > whereas Meetup etc, require a fee (just in case you want people to > book a ticket). > > N. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPagJDAAoJEP0qBPaYQbb6HggH/iJx0EYn9XrRqV+qgFT65tLl > DUQRuJdCG2pZYQSsyvmdn9SCwk6XD+N8oYCar555hrFUzaNkVDrw0g1d3YhHRN1T > 2bZqKGxy03tWqnJavzAGcFAaoygRcvR88P9ne06xSOT6XJHJQVY4BCjtjw89Fxha > 8tx5DqzYRx1NXXJ8JzZaY/pgywgEGQAFmxU7ta7mKtcc658ubt5jbdJ59L88EI9p > Ix0MbNc/n12bQK2hmjl2gwPqCF6HuJ9gd9Hrt84mJvcrD5gYBeycZkyWY6NJ0Jt3 > Gp7BxlQy+0T/gdE5Af7fQR3ilUNKGuyNkpHYMOHVio4A0D1qEySlg/7tLEvCPW4= > =ltym > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > > > > > > > > > -- > David Walker > > CrowdScores Ltd > +44 7768 082545 > +44 20 7486 0225 > 46 Manchester Street, London W1U 7LS > > > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk ---- Rami Chowdhury "A mind all logic is like a knife all blade - it makes the hand bleed that uses it." -- Rabindranath Tagore +44-7581-430-517 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From akumria at acm.org Fri Mar 30 15:34:27 2012 From: akumria at acm.org (Anand Kumria) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 14:34:27 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] London Python Code Dojo (Season 3, Episode 8) In-Reply-To: <20120330092500.GA25734@pina.cat> References: <20120330092500.GA25734@pina.cat> Message-ID: Hi Carles, That reminds me, I saw your company mentioned in the press -- http://www.vitavonni.de/blog/201203/2012031401-google-scholar--mendeley-and-unreliable-sources.html Seems providing feedback is especially difficult. Something you guys might want to make easier. Cheers, Anand On 30 March 2012 10:25, Carles Pina i Estany wrote: > > Hi, > > On Mar/29/2012, Greg Roodt wrote: > >> The next London Python Code Dojo is go! It will take place in a week's >> time on Thursday 5 April from 6:30pm. > > Ohhh... I'll be on the way to the airport. Have fun! > > I wanted to comment something in the Dojo: at my company (Mendeley) we > have an open position: > http://www.mendeley.com/careers/london-cpp-qt-software-eng/ > It's a position in my team, feel free to contact me if you have some > questions/comments (or contact jobs at mendeley.com , say that you come > from the Python List). Qt is not required but it's an advantage. > > It's not in the job spec but Python is used. We also hosted a Python > Code Dojo back in November or December (now would be more difficult > because some new arrangements in the office). > > Another interesting position: > http://www.mendeley.com/careers/london-hadoop-data-architect/ > > Feel free to forward! > > Regards, > > -- > Carles Pina i Estany > ? ? ? ?http://pinux.info > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > -- ?Don?t be sad because it?s over. Smile because it happened.? ? Dr. Seuss From carles at pina.cat Fri Mar 30 16:29:06 2012 From: carles at pina.cat (Carles Pina i Estany) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 15:29:06 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] London Python Code Dojo (Season 3, Episode 8) In-Reply-To: References: <20120330092500.GA25734@pina.cat> Message-ID: <20120330142906.GA30618@pina.cat> Hi Anand, At the moment, providing feedback about errors in our catalog is difficult and at the end needs manual actions from our side. Good news is that we will work to fix this :-) Thanks for the feedback! On Mar/30/2012, Anand Kumria wrote: > Hi Carles, > > That reminds me, I saw your company mentioned in the press -- > > http://www.vitavonni.de/blog/201203/2012031401-google-scholar--mendeley-and-unreliable-sources.html > > Seems providing feedback is especially difficult. Something you guys > might want to make easier. > > Cheers, > Anand > > On 30 March 2012 10:25, Carles Pina i Estany wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > On Mar/29/2012, Greg Roodt wrote: > > > >> The next London Python Code Dojo is go! It will take place in a week's > >> time on Thursday 5 April from 6:30pm. > > > > Ohhh... I'll be on the way to the airport. Have fun! > > > > I wanted to comment something in the Dojo: at my company (Mendeley) we > > have an open position: > > http://www.mendeley.com/careers/london-cpp-qt-software-eng/ > > It's a position in my team, feel free to contact me if you have some > > questions/comments (or contact jobs at mendeley.com , say that you come > > from the Python List). Qt is not required but it's an advantage. > > > > It's not in the job spec but Python is used. We also hosted a Python > > Code Dojo back in November or December (now would be more difficult > > because some new arrangements in the office). > > > > Another interesting position: > > http://www.mendeley.com/careers/london-hadoop-data-architect/ > > > > Feel free to forward! > > > > Regards, > > > > -- > > Carles Pina i Estany > > ? ? ? ?http://pinux.info > > _______________________________________________ > > python-uk mailing list > > python-uk at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > > > > > > -- > ???Don???t be sad because it???s over. Smile because it happened.??? ??? Dr. Seuss > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk -- Carles Pina i Estany http://pinux.info