From ntoll at ntoll.org  Fri Sep  9 13:04:05 2011
From: ntoll at ntoll.org (Nicholas Tollervey)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 12:04:05 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] Dojo at PyconUK
Message-ID: <E7BF7B7F-049F-4D15-81B1-D3BE4551A0DB@ntoll.org>

Hi Folks,

In case you haven't realised, it'll be Pycon UK in just over a fortnight's time. It's going to be great fun and the more the merrier so don't hesitate to book! (see: http://pyconuk.org)

One of the activities to take place at this year's event will be a London-style code dojo. For that to work we need suggestions for interesting programming problems that take about 1 to 1 1/2 hours to complete. At the start of the dojo I'll present a list to the attendees and we'll vote on which seems to be the most interesting / fun. Obviously, we need a list so please don't hesitate to propose a suggestion. Here's one from me to kick things off:

Roman Numeral Calculator - e.g. XI - III = IIX (Apparently, it's not as easy as you'd think. Parsing / converting between Roman numerals / numeric values apparently has some interesting "weird" rules to take into account). :-)

Looking forward to seeing you all in Coventry (for which you'll need to book a ticket, go on, do it now), :-)

Nicholas.

From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Fri Sep  9 14:02:10 2011
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 13:02:10 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] Dojo at PyconUK
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On 09/09/2011 12:04, Nicholas Tollervey wrote:
>Here's one from me to kick things off:
>
> Roman Numeral Calculator - e.g. XI - III = IIX (Apparently, it's not
> as easy as you'd think. Parsing / converting between Roman numerals /
> numeric values apparently has some interesting "weird" rules to take
> into account). :-)

For those who haven't been involved, Nicholas has been trying to
get us to vote for this Roman Numeral Converter pretty much every
London Python Dojo for the last two years :)

Maybe Coventry will be his lucky place?

TJG

From funthyme at gmail.com  Fri Sep  9 14:23:18 2011
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 13:23:18 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] Dojo at PyconUK
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On 9 September 2011 13:02, Tim Golden <mail at timgolden.me.uk> wrote:
> On 09/09/2011 12:04, Nicholas Tollervey wrote:
>>
>> Here's one from me to kick things off:
>>
>> Roman Numeral Calculator - e.g. XI - III = IIX (Apparently, it's not
>> as easy as you'd think. Parsing / converting between Roman numerals /
>> numeric values apparently has some interesting "weird" rules to take
>> into account). :-)
>
> For those who haven't been involved, Nicholas has been trying to
> get us to vote for this Roman Numeral Converter pretty much every
> London Python Dojo for the last two years :)

Maybe we should humour him, then.
What I'd like to know, is what about zero?

> Maybe Coventry will be his lucky place?

So we have to send him to Coventry so he can get it?

john
--

From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Fri Sep  9 14:27:04 2011
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 13:27:04 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] Dojo at PyconUK
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On 09/09/2011 13:23, John Pinner wrote:
> On 9 September 2011 13:02, Tim Golden<mail at timgolden.me.uk>  wrote:
>> Maybe Coventry will be his lucky place?
>
> So we have to send him to Coventry so he can get it?

You surely can't have been the first person to make that
comment in the context of this year's PyConUK ??

TJG

From alex_integra at hotmail.com  Fri Sep  9 14:33:50 2011
From: alex_integra at hotmail.com (Alex Anderson)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 13:33:50 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] Dojo at PyconUK
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> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 13:23:18 +0100
> From: funthyme at gmail.com
> To: python-uk at python.org
> Subject: Re: [python-uk] Dojo at PyconUK
> 
> On 9 September 2011 13:02, Tim Golden <mail at timgolden.me.uk> wrote:
> > On 09/09/2011 12:04, Nicholas Tollervey wrote:
> >>
> >> Here's one from me to kick things off:
> >>
> >> Roman Numeral Calculator - e.g. XI - III = IIX (Apparently, it's not
> >> as easy as you'd think. Parsing / converting between Roman numerals /
> >> numeric values apparently has some interesting "weird" rules to take
> >> into account). :-)
> >
> > For those who haven't been involved, Nicholas has been trying to
> > get us to vote for this Roman Numeral Converter pretty much every
> > London Python Dojo for the last two years :)
> 
> Maybe we should humour him, then.
> What I'd like to know, is what about zero?
> 
> > Maybe Coventry will be his lucky place?
> 
> So we have to send him to Coventry so he can get it?
> 


Regarding zero: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_numerals#Zero

There was a fascinating book written (one of a few) about the arguments over zer in classical  times, called "Much Ado About Nothing". The crossover of the culture vulture and the geek in me always gets a kick out of the title...
 		 	   		  
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From theology at gmail.com  Fri Sep  9 14:38:42 2011
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 13:38:42 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] Dojo at PyconUK
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On 9 September 2011 12:04, Nicholas Tollervey <ntoll at ntoll.org> wrote:
> Roman Numeral Calculator - e.g. XI - III = IIX (Apparently, it's not as easy as you'd think. Parsing / converting between Roman numerals / numeric values apparently has some interesting "weird" rules to take into account). :-)

Would it be more useful to make a Roman numeral data type?

From ntoll at ntoll.org  Fri Sep  9 15:08:55 2011
From: ntoll at ntoll.org (Nicholas Tollervey)
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 14:08:55 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] Dojo at PyconUK
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On Fri, 2011-09-09 at 13:23 +0100, John Pinner wrote:
> On 9 September 2011 13:02, Tim Golden <mail at timgolden.me.uk> wrote:
> > On 09/09/2011 12:04, Nicholas Tollervey wrote:
> >>
> >> Here's one from me to kick things off:
> >>
> >> Roman Numeral Calculator - e.g. XI - III = IIX (Apparently, it's not
> >> as easy as you'd think. Parsing / converting between Roman numerals /
> >> numeric values apparently has some interesting "weird" rules to take
> >> into account). :-)
> >
> > For those who haven't been involved, Nicholas has been trying to
> > get us to vote for this Roman Numeral Converter pretty much every
> > London Python Dojo for the last two years :)
> 

Shhhhh, don't tell them that! It'll never get chosen. :-/

> Maybe we should humour him, then.
> What I'd like to know, is what about zero?
> 

Or floats...?

> > Maybe Coventry will be his lucky place?
> 
> So we have to send him to Coventry so he can get it?
> 

B'dum tish.

Here's another favourite of mine:

Create a simple text adventure game world. Navigate with commands like
n,s,e and w and look at your surroundings with the, er, "look" command.
Great fun if you want to understand directed graphs. :-)

A variation on this theme is a "Hunt the Wumpus" clone. But then Tim
would have to admit to *his* dojo "testing" secret.

> john
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From theology at gmail.com  Fri Sep  9 15:10:35 2011
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 14:10:35 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] PyCon UK 2011 - 24th to 25th September 2011 -
 Conference Announcement and Booking details
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On 25/07/11 11:52, Zeth wrote:
> The UK's official Python conference returns. It is aimed at everyone
> in the Python community, of all skill levels, from beginners to core
> developers.
>
> The conference will be held on the 24th to 25th September 2011, in the
> TechnoCentre Coventry (CV1 2TT).
>
> The conference is not-for-profit and community-run by volunteers. It
> is your conference so you can give a talk, lead a workshop or help
> with publicity - see our wiki for more details.
>
> In particular, it would help a lot if you can forward this
> announcement to your Python-using friends and colleagues and relevant
> mailing lists, or link to our website on Twitter, Facebook, Google+
> and so on.
>
> Booking is open now. The ticket cost for the weekend is ?95 which
> includes access to all sessions, lunches, refreshments, the exclusive
> PyCon UK T-shirt and the unmissable conference dinner (Concession rate
> is ?75).
>
> For more details and to book, please visit our website at http://pyconuk.org/
>
The schedule is now online at: http://pyconuk.net/Schedule

From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Fri Sep  9 15:13:13 2011
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 14:13:13 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] Dojo at PyconUK
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On 09/09/2011 14:08, Nicholas Tollervey wrote:
> A variation on this theme is a "Hunt the Wumpus" clone. But then Tim
> would have to admit to *his* dojo "testing" secret.

Well *someone* liked it:

   http://themonkeyproject.wordpress.com/2011/05/10/hunt-the-wumpus/

TJG

From stestagg at gmail.com  Fri Sep  9 16:10:17 2011
From: stestagg at gmail.com (Stestagg)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 10:10:17 -0400
Subject: [python-uk] Dojo at PyconUK
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On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Nicholas Tollervey <ntoll at ntoll.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-09-09 at 13:23 +0100, John Pinner wrote:
>> On 9 September 2011 13:02, Tim Golden <mail at timgolden.me.uk> wrote:
>> > On 09/09/2011 12:04, Nicholas Tollervey wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Here's one from me to kick things off:
>> >>
>> >> Roman Numeral Calculator - e.g. XI - III = IIX (Apparently, it's not
>> >> as easy as you'd think. Parsing / converting between Roman numerals /
>> >> numeric values apparently has some interesting "weird" rules to take
>> >> into account). :-)
>> >
>> > For those who haven't been involved, Nicholas has been trying to
>> > get us to vote for this Roman Numeral Converter pretty much every
>> > London Python Dojo for the last two years :)
>>
>
> Shhhhh, don't tell them that! It'll never get chosen. :-/
>
>> Maybe we should humour him, then.
>> What I'd like to know, is what about zero?
>>
>
> Or floats...?
>
>> > Maybe Coventry will be his lucky place?
>>
>> So we have to send him to Coventry so he can get it?
>>
>
> B'dum tish.
>
> Here's another favourite of mine:
>
> Create a simple text adventure game world. Navigate with commands like
> n,s,e and w and look at your surroundings with the, er, "look" command.
> Great fun if you want to understand directed graphs. :-)
>
> A variation on this theme is a "Hunt the Wumpus" clone. But then Tim
> would have to admit to *his* dojo "testing" secret.
>
>> john
>> --
>> _______________________________________________
>> python-uk mailing list
>> python-uk at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> python-uk mailing list
> python-uk at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
>
>

Fwiw, the more interesting challenge is to write an efficient Roman
Numeral calculator that doesn't convert between numerals and numeric
values.  How do you multiply IX and V in a non-decimal world? It's not
*that* hard, but good for stimulating debate.


Steve Stagg

From funthyme at gmail.com  Fri Sep  9 16:14:01 2011
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 15:14:01 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] Dojo at PyconUK
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Hi,

On 9 September 2011 15:10, Stestagg <stestagg at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Nicholas Tollervey <ntoll at ntoll.org> wrote:
>> On Fri, 2011-09-09 at 13:23 +0100, John Pinner wrote:
>>> On 9 September 2011 13:02, Tim Golden <mail at timgolden.me.uk> wrote:
>>> > On 09/09/2011 12:04, Nicholas Tollervey wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Here's one from me to kick things off:
>>> >>
>>> >> Roman Numeral Calculator - e.g. XI - III = IIX (Apparently, it's not
>>> >> as easy as you'd think. Parsing / converting between Roman numerals /
>>> >> numeric values apparently has some interesting "weird" rules to take
>>> >> into account). :-)
>>> >
>>> > For those who haven't been involved, Nicholas has been trying to
>>> > get us to vote for this Roman Numeral Converter pretty much every
>>> > London Python Dojo for the last two years :)
>>>
>>
>> Shhhhh, don't tell them that! It'll never get chosen. :-/
>>
>>> Maybe we should humour him, then.
>>> What I'd like to know, is what about zero?
>>>
>>
>> Or floats...?
>>
>>> > Maybe Coventry will be his lucky place?
>>>
>>> So we have to send him to Coventry so he can get it?
>>>
>>
>> B'dum tish.
>>
>> Here's another favourite of mine:
>>
>> Create a simple text adventure game world. Navigate with commands like
>> n,s,e and w and look at your surroundings with the, er, "look" command.
>> Great fun if you want to understand directed graphs. :-)
>>
>> A variation on this theme is a "Hunt the Wumpus" clone. But then Tim
>> would have to admit to *his* dojo "testing" secret.
>>
>>> john
>>> --
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> python-uk mailing list
>>> python-uk at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> python-uk mailing list
>> python-uk at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
>>
>>
>
> Fwiw, the more interesting challenge is to write an efficient Roman
> Numeral calculator that doesn't convert between numerals and numeric
> values. ?How do you multiply IX and V in a non-decimal world? It's not
> *that* hard, but good for stimulating debate.

I don't know, but I guess that I'd start by finding out how the Romans did it.

John
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From renesd at gmail.com  Fri Sep  9 16:18:49 2011
From: renesd at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Dudfield?=)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 16:18:49 +0200
Subject: [python-uk] Dojo at PyconUK
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Ancient number systems?  There's some good write ups of other old number
systems here...    http://www.math.wichita.edu/history/topics/num-sys.html
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From harry.percival at gmail.com  Sat Sep 10 13:53:58 2011
From: harry.percival at gmail.com (Harry Percival)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 12:53:58 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] Dojo at PyconUK
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aren't roman numerals the tdd example in dive into python?

there's a good section in alex bellos' "adventures in numberland" on roman
numerals, where he briefly dips into how the romans did arithmetic - you can
use roman numerals a bit like an abacus, apparently...

On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Ren? Dudfield <renesd at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ancient number systems?  There's some good write ups of other old number
> systems here...    http://www.math.wichita.edu/history/topics/num-sys.html
>
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From pythonsheffield at gmail.com  Sat Sep 10 14:38:39 2011
From: pythonsheffield at gmail.com (Daley Chetwynd)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 13:38:39 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] Next Python Sheffield meeting Sept 27th
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Hi all,

The next Python Sheffield meeting has now been confirmed for Tuesday
September 27th at the GIST Lab in Sheffield. The meeting will run from
19:00 - 20:45, although doors will be open at the GIST Lab from 18:30.
The GIST Lab is located opposite Sheffield train station and behind
the Showroom cinema:

http://thegisthub.net/groups/gistlab

This month we've got the following two speakers:

Daley Chetwynd (@dchetwynd) - "PyCon UK 2011 conference round-up"
Dave King (@davbo) - "Introduction to PyPy"

If you'd like to join us then please register for free at:

http://pysheff1109.eventbrite.com/

We're always looking for future speakers, so if you'd like to talk on
anything Python-related
and fancy a trip to Sheffield, please get in touch. To find out more about
the Python Sheffield
group, follow @pysheff on Twitter or see the Google group:

http://groups.google.com/group/python-sheffield

Thanks,

Daley Chetwynd
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From theology at gmail.com  Fri Sep 16 16:59:04 2011
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 15:59:04 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] PyCon UK 2011 - 24th to 25th September 2011 -
 Conference Announcement and Booking details
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Hi again,

Just a quick update. The early bird rate is closing tonight, so book now:
http://pyconuk2011.eventbrite.com/

Schedule is here:
http://pyconuk.net/Schedule

Best Wishes,
Zeth


On 9 September 2011 14:10, Zeth <theology at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 25/07/11 11:52, Zeth wrote:
>>
>> The UK's official Python conference returns. It is aimed at everyone
>> in the Python community, of all skill levels, from beginners to core
>> developers.
>>
>> The conference will be held on the 24th to 25th September 2011, in the
>> TechnoCentre Coventry (CV1 2TT).
>>
>> The conference is not-for-profit and community-run by volunteers. It
>> is your conference so you can give a talk, lead a workshop or help
>> with publicity - see our wiki for more details.
>>
>> In particular, it would help a lot if you can forward this
>> announcement to your Python-using friends and colleagues and relevant
>> mailing lists, or link to our website on Twitter, Facebook, Google+
>> and so on.
>>
>> Booking is open now. The ticket cost for the weekend is ?95 which
>> includes access to all sessions, lunches, refreshments, the exclusive
>> PyCon UK T-shirt and the unmissable conference dinner (Concession rate
>> is ?75).
>>
>> For more details and to book, please visit our website at
>> http://pyconuk.org/
>>
> The schedule is now online at: http://pyconuk.net/Schedule
>

From tom.viner at u-dox.com  Mon Sep 19 19:35:02 2011
From: tom.viner at u-dox.com (Tom Viner)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 18:35:02 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] Details about U-Dox Django job opportunity
Message-ID: <4E777D46.8040208@u-dox.com>

Hey all,

At the London python dojo (and also at the the annual London web boat 
cruise)
there were a few people asking me for details of our job position at U-Dox.

We're looking for a mid level web developer to work on exciting Django 
projects like http://www.vans.com/ and http://www.crookedtongues.com/

Requirements:

* A couple of years of development experience with a web framework such 
as Django, Ruby on Rails etc.
* Comfortable with Model View Controller pattern.
* Have basic skills across the client-side: you'll need to know 
javascript and your padding from your margin. We use jQuery.
* Experience with Linux and Apache very useful.
* Working knowledge of source control. We use git.
* Happy to learn new skills on the job and occasionally switch languages 
to do a bit of PHP or Ruby as required.

Ideally you've got a github or similar for us to peruse (or some offline 
code you can show us) or else a very lengthy and detailed technical blog.

We're a creative agency with a heavy focus on digital. We are very much 
a LAMP shop. With the P standing for Python.

If that sounds good, do drop me an email.

Meet us, I'll be at PyConUK this weekend!

Thanks,
Tom Viner

Senior Developer - http://www.u-dox.com/


From tom.viner at u-dox.com  Mon Sep 19 21:39:45 2011
From: tom.viner at u-dox.com (Tom Viner)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:39:45 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] Details about U-Dox Django job opportunity
In-Reply-To: <CAM1C4Gn9H6q2=BFfPbq2ZuNqdLi30++=PNeQbYkitpDQ0rA6Sg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4E777D46.8040208@u-dox.com>
	<CAM1C4Gn9H6q2=BFfPbq2ZuNqdLi30++=PNeQbYkitpDQ0rA6Sg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANBSuyE9HotDpXzKuXjoBJLqVfJ4X0kq5ScS5OzMzgwgESUZsQ@mail.gmail.com>

Just to confirm, this if a permanent position working with us in London.
Salary according to experience.

On Sep 19, 2011 7:48 PM, "Anand K" wrote:
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> You haven't said if you are after contractors or permanents though.
>
> Cheers,
> Anand
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From mark at zebrapeople.com  Tue Sep 20 16:33:01 2011
From: mark at zebrapeople.com (Mark Horan)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 15:33:01 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] Please post to Jobs
Message-ID: <006301cc77a2$33b837e0$9b28a7a0$@com>

Hey Python UK Team!!

 

Please sent this to the UK mailing list

Cheers

Mark

Python/Django Web Application Developer - Contract - 3 Months

My client is a Media Production company based in London's West End. They are
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deploying a state of the art MAM Media Asset Management System.

What you will be working on:
- Take a key role in future development of the Django, CSS/XHTML and JQuery
code base

- Work with the existing technical team to architect the next phase of
systems, including extending the API and working with new technologies

- Maintain and add functionality to existing sites, in particular handle
requests for new functionality. There are lots of fun things we want to add
to the new service


What you must be able to do:
- Fluency in Python 2.5+

- Experience building or contributing to large Django Web Applications

- Familiarity with Django pluggable apps - Django-registration
Django-profiles Django-PayPal

- CSS/XHTML and JQuery

- Good understanding of RESTful Web Services - Extending a REST API

- Experience with Real-Time Push/Pull Polling Technologies such as node.js
and Websockets

- Experience with or interest in high-availability and highly scalable
systems

- Experience with PostgreSQL, Apache, Nginx, SVN or Git and Hudson.

Really great if you have:

- Experience of, or interest in, new or emerging platforms such as iOS,
Android, Windows Phone 7 are highly advantageous

*** Please note you MUST be eligible to work in the UK/EU *** 

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From J.Gould at austinfraser.com  Wed Sep 21 12:08:43 2011
From: J.Gould at austinfraser.com (Jon Gould)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 11:08:43 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] PyCon UK
In-Reply-To: <006301cc77a2$33b837e0$9b28a7a0$@com>
References: <006301cc77a2$33b837e0$9b28a7a0$@com>
Message-ID: <C50A69CD8C0AA548872C195A04AE3491177FC1BDB6@AFDC01.austinfraser.local>

Yesterday Austin Fraser were confirmed as an official sponsor of PyCon UK 2011 which is happening in Coventry this weekend.

http://pyconuk.net/Sponsors

I will be at the conference on Sunday and will be talking at the Recruitment Event on Sunday morning. We will be available all day for you to come and meet us in person, to discuss your current work situation, give career advice and we will be running a CV clinic.

Please can you let me know if you will be there as it would be great to meet up if you are.

We will be discussing our current vacancies so it will be a good opportunity for you to see what jobs are available.

We are working with clients all over the UK on both permanent and contract positions.

If you are not going to be at the conference, please let me know if you are actively looking for work or considering any changes in the future.

Regards

Jon Gould
Head of Digital Media

Austin Fraser Limited
Tel  +44 118 959 6689
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From mail at peterbe.com  Wed Sep 21 20:27:27 2011
From: mail at peterbe.com (Peter Bengtsson)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:27:27 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] Room sharing in Coventry, PyConUK 2011
Message-ID: <BCB83F25-82F6-4276-A5C6-E51EE8E4BF3B@peterbe.com>

Both the Ibis and Formula 1 are fully booked for the Saturday night. Anybody willing to share a 2-bed room? 
If you're paying from own pocket I can take the whole expense and claim it for the whole room (if that makes sense)

Peter

From joe.metcalfe at tiscali.co.uk  Thu Sep 22 00:05:39 2011
From: joe.metcalfe at tiscali.co.uk (Joe)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 23:05:39 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] Room sharing in Coventry, PyConUK 2011
In-Reply-To: <BCB83F25-82F6-4276-A5C6-E51EE8E4BF3B@peterbe.com>
References: <BCB83F25-82F6-4276-A5C6-E51EE8E4BF3B@peterbe.com>
Message-ID: <F90CC43362F04FFBA65DBE98588AFEDF@vostro2007>

Hi Peter,
I have booked into the Britannia Coventry (via LateRooms.com) earlier today
(0.5 miles). They seem to still have rooms as do others nearby. I booked a
twin room so if you're really stuck...

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: python-uk-bounces+joe.metcalfe=tiscali.co.uk at python.org
[mailto:python-uk-bounces+joe.metcalfe=tiscali.co.uk at python.org] On Behalf
Of Peter Bengtsson
Sent: 21 September 2011 19:27
To: UK Python Users
Subject: [python-uk] Room sharing in Coventry, PyConUK 2011

Both the Ibis and Formula 1 are fully booked for the Saturday night. Anybody
willing to share a 2-bed room? 
If you're paying from own pocket I can take the whole expense and claim it
for the whole room (if that makes sense)

Peter
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From mail at peterbe.com  Thu Sep 22 11:55:59 2011
From: mail at peterbe.com (Peter Bengtsson)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 10:55:59 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] Room sharing in Coventry, PyConUK 2011
In-Reply-To: <F90CC43362F04FFBA65DBE98588AFEDF@vostro2007>
References: <BCB83F25-82F6-4276-A5C6-E51EE8E4BF3B@peterbe.com>
	<F90CC43362F04FFBA65DBE98588AFEDF@vostro2007>
Message-ID: <CABe1vt2r3tAq+HQ1g7DQ3W5z9qOO6Xu1q22wSr5vb30OiJomQg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Joe! That worked. Also booked now.

On 21 September 2011 23:05, Joe <joe.metcalfe at tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi Peter,
> I have booked into the Britannia Coventry (via LateRooms.com) earlier today
> (0.5 miles). They seem to still have rooms as do others nearby. I booked a
> twin room so if you're really stuck...
>
> Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: python-uk-bounces+joe.metcalfe=tiscali.co.uk at python.org
> [mailto:python-uk-bounces+joe.metcalfe=tiscali.co.uk at python.org] On Behalf
> Of Peter Bengtsson
> Sent: 21 September 2011 19:27
> To: UK Python Users
> Subject: [python-uk] Room sharing in Coventry, PyConUK 2011
>
> Both the Ibis and Formula 1 are fully booked for the Saturday night. Anybody
> willing to share a 2-bed room?
> If you're paying from own pocket I can take the whole expense and claim it
> for the whole room (if that makes sense)
>
> Peter
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From fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk  Thu Sep 22 18:26:23 2011
From: fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 17:26:23 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] Bonus Northants Geeks meetup 29th September
Message-ID: <4E7B61AF.6080808@voidspace.org.uk>

Hey all,

There's a Northants Geeks meetup *tonight* (22nd September) at the Malt 
Shovel Pub Northampton, 7:30pm as usual.

To celebrate pycon-uk, and for a few folk who will be missing tonight 
(myself included unfortunately) there will be a *bonus* meetup next 
week. Same place, same time.

All the best,

Michael Foord

-- 
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May you do good and not evil
May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others
May you share freely, never taking more than you give.
-- the sqlite blessing http://www.sqlite.org/different.html


From qwertyface at gmail.com  Tue Sep  6 21:52:51 2011
From: qwertyface at gmail.com (Peter Russell)
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 19:52:51 -0000
Subject: [python-uk] West Yorkshire Python Group Meeting in Leeds - Thursday
	from 18:30
Message-ID: <CAHSH0FCcwM7Boj_sMu6udOHytovryznuMd5w+-eme4VT739Qkg@mail.gmail.com>

===================================================================
 West Yorkshire Python User Group Meeting - Thursday. 8 September.
===================================================================

About the meeting
=================

We'll be arriving at Old Broadcasting House from about 6:30 onwards
for coffee and vaguely Python related chat.  At 7:30 will be two
talks, which are expected to last for an hour or so.  After that we
will head to a pub for more geeky chat.

The meetings are always good fun, and everyone of any level of
experience or interest in Python is extremely welcome.  Bring a friend!

Talk: "Moving to Python 3" - Nick Efford
----------------------------------------

Nick will be talking about Python 3, covering the differences from
Python 2, and why he believes it's a better language.

Nick is a lecturer at the University of Leeds, and teaches programming
using Python, so he's bound to have some interesting perspectives on
this subject - it's definitely one not to miss!

Experience Level:
 The talk should be suitable for anyone with a little experience with
 Python.

Of Interest To:
 This talk will be of particular interest to anyone who is interested
 in using Python as a language for teaching, or anyone who is
 considering switching to Python 3.

Talk: "Using the SciPy toolset for interactive analysis" - Tony Simpson
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Tony will be talking about his use of IPython, SciPy and MatplotLib
for interactive analysis of logfiles.

These tools have been developed in the scientific community for
analysing data and running computational simulations.  It will be
interesting to see how they can be applied to a different domain.

Experience Level:
 This talk should be suitable for everyone.

Of Interest To:
 This talk will be of particular interest to people who are
 interested in analysis and people who are interested in real world
 applications of Python.


Date and Time
=============
Thursday 8 September.  From 6:30pm, talks at 7:30.  Pub afterwards.

Location
========

| Old Broadcasting House
| 148 Woodhouse Lane
| Leeds
| LS2 9EN

About the Group
===============

The West Yorkshire Python User Group (WYPy) have been meeting monthly
since 2007.  Our meetings are free, and usually include at least one
talk, as well as a trip to the pub.

Our website is at http://wypy.org.uk .  We discuss our meetings on the
Python Yorkshire and Humberside Google Group
http://groups.google.com/group/python-yorks-humber/ and you can also
follow us on Twitter at @WYPython.

From tom.viner at u-dox.com  Tue Sep 13 20:46:07 2011
From: tom.viner at u-dox.com (Tom Viner)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:46:07 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] Come work with us on world class django websites
Message-ID: <4E6FA4EF.2080509@u-dox.com>

Hey all,

In short, we're looking for a new django developer, someone with a 
couple of years of web development experience with a web framework such 
as Django, Ruby on Rails etc. We build the bulk of our projects on the 
Django platform so you need to be comfortable with how web-apps are 
built within the MVC pattern.

We're a creative agency with a heavy focus on digital. We build software 
to fit our clients needs - be it e-commerce, marketing or a hefty amount 
of data migration onto new platforms.

You need to be ok with object orientated programming - much of our code 
is written to be generic from the outset and this relies on inheritance 
and code reuse throughout. We push some of our code to github so you?ll 
be part of a team that is getting to release for others as well as 
working on high profile flagship sites such as those for Vans and 
Footlocker.

You'll be part of a small, growing team with backend and frontend 
developers, and you'll be required to have basic skills across the 
client-side stuff too. You'll need to know javascript and your padding 
from your margin.

It?s essential that you are familiar with the use of source control - if 
it's not in the repo it doesn't exist as far as the build is concerned.

Our servers are typically Linux based, experience with that is useful to 
have but we?ll get you up to speed on what you?ll need. We are very much 
a LAMP shop. With the P standing for Python.

It's also not unknown for us to have to work with an existing library of 
code so you might be doing PHP or some AS3 based Flash at times - 
switching languages shouldn't scare you. You should be familiar with at 
least one form of source control and use it for your own projects.

You should be keen to go and learn new things on your own - if for 
example a plugin you use breaks you should either be able to fix it 
yourself, know how to get around the issue or be able to work with an 
alternative without impacting the project negatively.

Ideally you've got a github or similar for us to peruse or else a very 
lengthy and detailed technical blog.

If that sounds good, do drop me an email.

Thanks,
Tom
http://www.u-dox.com/


From pythonsheffield at gmail.com  Mon Sep 26 10:31:19 2011
From: pythonsheffield at gmail.com (Daley Chetwynd)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 09:31:19 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] Next Python Sheffield meeting Sept 27th
Message-ID: <CALL7vCY=6tcnqnku3LN52CCYOjFwYcq5z3n11Adgo+jz0Kd8DQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Congratulations to the PyCon UK organisers for a great conference over the
weekend. It was the first time that I'd been to PyCon and I really enjoyed
it.

The next Python Sheffield meeting is being held tomorrow night (Tuesday
September 27th) at the GIST Lab in Sheffield. The meeting will run from
19:00 - 20:45, although doors will be open at the GIST Lab from 18:30. The
GIST Lab is located opposite Sheffield train station and behind the Showroom
cinema:

http://thegisthub.net/groups/gistlab

This month we've got the following three speakers:

Daley Chetwynd (@dchetwynd) - "PyCon UK 2011 conference round-up"
Thomas Kluyver (@takluyver) - "IPython's New Tools"
Dave King (@davbo) - "Introduction to PyPy"

We've currently got 9 people registered for the meeting. If you'd like to
join us, please register for free at:

http://pysheff1109.eventbrite.com/

We're always looking for future speakers, so if you'd like to talk on
anything Python related and fancy a trip to Sheffield, please get in touch.
To find out more about the Python Sheffield group, follow @pysheff on
Twitter or see the Google group:

http://groups.google.com/group/python-sheffield

Thanks,

Daley Chetwynd
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From Tibs at tibsnjoan.co.uk  Tue Sep 27 20:55:55 2011
From: Tibs at tibsnjoan.co.uk (Tony Ibbs)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 19:55:55 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] Next CamPUG meeting: Tue 4th October
Message-ID: <DFBF7813-EFFF-450C-8000-E428CD4E7C28@tibsnjoan.co.uk>

From our google group:

The next meeting should be a coding/dojo meeting, 7.30pm at RealVNC  (http://tinyurl.com/realvncoffices).

(although depending on who comes along, it might also be a PyConUK retrospective, since I think those of us who got to go went to a range of different talks)

Meetings after that should be: 

* Tuesday 1st November, talks again 
* Tuesday 6th December, dojo/coding again (not the 1st as I appear to have said last time)

Do people want the first meeting of 2012 to be Tuesday 3rd January, or Tuesday 10th, given that Monday 2nd will presumably be a public holiday? It's meant to be a tallks meeting.

Tibs

From brian.curtin at gmail.com  Wed Sep 28 00:56:34 2011
From: brian.curtin at gmail.com (Brian Curtin)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 17:56:34 -0500
Subject: [python-uk] PyCon 2012 Proposals Due October 12
Message-ID: <CAD+XWwptuCTYoVJ-xcv3ujQmOSVk3vn0Sjjb21NW_nFSb5aGng@mail.gmail.com>

The deadline for PyCon 2012 tutorial, talk, and poster proposals is
under 15 days away, so be sure to get your submissions in by October
12, 2011. Whether you?re a first-timer or an experienced veteran,
PyCon is depends on you, the community, coming together to build the
best conference schedule possible. Our
call for proposals (http://us.pycon.org/2012/cfp/) lays out the
details it takes to be included in the lineup for the conference in
Santa Clara, CA on March 7-15, 2012.

If you?re unsure of what to write about, our recent survey yielded a
large list of potential talk topics
(http://pycon.blogspot.com/2011/09/need-talk-ideas.html), and plenty
of ideas for tutorials (INSERT TUTORIAL POST). We?ve also come up with
general tips on proposal writing at
http://pycon.blogspot.com/2011/08/writing-good-proposal.html to ensure
everyone has the most complete proposal when it comes time for review.
As always, the program committee wants to put together an incredible
conference, so they?ll be working with submitters to fine tune
proposal details and help you produce the best submissions.

We?ve had plenty of great news to share since we first announced the
call for proposals. Paul Graham of Y Combinator was recently announced
as a keynote speaker
(http://pycon.blogspot.com/2011/09/announcing-first-pycon-2012-keynote.html),
making his return after a 2003 keynote. David Beazley, famous for his
mind-blowing talks on CPython?s Global Interpreter Lock, was added to
the plenary talk series
(http://pycon.blogspot.com/2011/09/announcing-first-pycon-2012-plenary.html).
Sponsors can now list their job openings on the ?Job Fair? section of
the PyCon site (http://pycon.blogspot.com/2011/09/announcing-pycon-2012-fair-page-sponsor.html).
We?re hard at work to bring you the best conference yet, so stay tuned
to PyCon news at http://pycon.blogspot.com/ and on Twitter at
https://twitter.com/#!/pycon.

We recently eclipsed last year?s sponsorship count of 40 and are
currently at a record 52 organizations supporting PyCon. If you or
your organization are interested in sponsoring PyCon, we?d love to
hear from you, so check out our sponsorship page
(http://us.pycon.org/2012/sponsors/).

A quick thanks to all of our awesome PyCon 2012 Sponsors:

- Diamond Level: Google and Dropbox.
- Platinum Level: New Relic, SurveyMonkey, Microsoft, Eventbrite,
Nasuni and Gondor.io
- Gold Level: Walt Disney Animation Studios, CCP Games, Linode,
Enthought, Canonical, Dotcloud, Loggly, Revsys, ZeOmega, Bitly,
ActiveState, JetBrains, Caktus, Disqus, Spotify, Snoball, Evite, and
PlaidCloud
- Silver Level: Imaginary Landscape, WiserTogether, Net-ng, Olark, AG
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From ntoll at ntoll.org  Thu Sep 29 12:22:25 2011
From: ntoll at ntoll.org (Nicholas Tollervey)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 11:22:25 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] Next London Python Code Dojo
Message-ID: <CB0C446D-7528-4B1F-844A-EC14C851FC6B@ntoll.org>

Hi Folks,

The next London Python Code Dojo is happening a week today on the 6th October from 6:30pm. You can sign up here (tickets go quickly):

https://ldnpydojo.eventwax.com/london-python-code-dojo-season-4-episode-1

(n.b. I didn't create that URL, Eventwax did. It should be season-3-episode-1 but they won't let me change it. I've reported a bug)

We?ll be doing some group based coding. This will involve brainstorming ideas during the pizza/beer part of the evening followed by a vote on which problem to solve and then a couple of hours of furious coding. To wrap the evening up we do a ?show and tell? followed by drinks in the pub.

Where..?

Fry-IT Ltd.

Nearest Tubes: Waterloo Southwark

Address: Fry-IT Limited
503 Enterprise House
1/2 Hatfields
London SE1 9PG

See you there!

Nicholas.