From carles at pina.cat Sun Jan 3 22:49:39 2010 From: carles at pina.cat (Carles Pina i Estany) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 21:49:39 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Code Dojo - yesterday and next year... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20100103214939.GA8895@pina.cat> Hi, On Dec/11/2009, Nicholas Tollervey wrote: > * DATES: So we don't have any further clashes - we bagsy the Thursday > in the first week of every month for our meeting. For next year, this > means the Dojo will meet on the following dates: > > 7th January see you in 4 days! Any planning/schedule? Cheers, -- Carles Pina i Estany http://pinux.info From dave.x.kirby at gmail.com Sun Jan 3 23:16:09 2010 From: dave.x.kirby at gmail.com (dave.x.kirby at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 22:16:09 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Code Dojo - yesterday and next year... In-Reply-To: <20100103214939.GA8895@pina.cat> Message-ID: <001485f0b134ab5bea047c49f37b@google.com> On Jan 3, 2010 9:49pm, Carles Pina i Estany wrote: > see you in 4 days! > Any planning/schedule? If anyone is interested I would like to throw doing CRC design into the mix - I think it would work well with splitting the dojo into small groups. CRC design is a simple way of doing software design as a team using index cards to represent classes, invented by Ward Cunningham and Kent Beck (who also invented Extreme Programming). I could do a 5-minute introduction to CRC then the teams could do a short CRC design session before they start or while coding. You can read more about CRC here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class-Responsibility-Collaboration_card http://www.agilemodeling.com/artifacts/crcModel.htm http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?CrcCard Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ntoll at ntoll.org Mon Jan 4 13:58:38 2010 From: ntoll at ntoll.org (Nicholas Tollervey) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:58:38 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] January Code Dojo Message-ID: <515DF4F7-DB6B-4B5F-8B7E-4D206E8829F4@ntoll.org> Folks, Just a quick reminder that the next London Python Code Dojo will be held this Thursday 7th January at 6:30 in the offices of Fry-IT (details at the end). Regarding the planning and schedule: the evening will be our first "group" dojo where pairs/trios/quartets of people work on the same problem concurrently and report back in a show and tell session to allow us to compare and contrast different solutions to the same problem (and affords us more opportunity to code-in-public). This experiment is a result of comments and suggestions at the end of the last dojo. As for the problem..? Again, based upon comments and suggestions, we'll have a white-board / post-it-note board for suggestions / up-votes during the free pizza and beer at the start. Dave (Kirby), perhaps you'd also like to give a lightning talk at the start about your suggestion for CRC? Good ideas, comments and suggestions are most welcome. Please sign up here: http://ldnpydojo.eventwax.com/5th-london-python-code-dojo/ (just so we know how much Pizza to order - thanks again Fry-IT). There will also be a Python related O'Reilly book to give away at the end. See you there! Nicholas. Address: Fry-IT Limited 503 Enterprise House 1/2 Hatfields London SE1 9PG Nearest Tubes: Waterloo Southwark Telephone: 0207 0968800 Google Map: http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1%2F2+Hatfields,+London,+SE1+9PG&sll=51.507954,-0.107825&sspn=0.007439,0.022724&ie=UTF8&ll=51.508235,0.107825&spn=0.007439,0.022724&z=16&iwloc=A From jon+python-uk at unequivocal.co.uk Mon Jan 4 14:07:18 2010 From: jon+python-uk at unequivocal.co.uk (Jon Ribbens) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 13:07:18 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Code Dojo - yesterday and next year... In-Reply-To: <001485f0b134ab5bea047c49f37b@google.com> References: <20100103214939.GA8895@pina.cat> <001485f0b134ab5bea047c49f37b@google.com> Message-ID: <20100104130718.GE13754@snowy.squish.net> On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 10:16:09PM +0000, dave.x.kirby at gmail.com wrote: > If anyone is interested I would like to throw doing CRC design into the > mix - I think it would work well with splitting the dojo into small > groups. > > CRC design is a simple way of doing software design as a team using index > cards to represent classes, invented by Ward Cunningham and Kent Beck (who > also invented Extreme Programming). Oh! I was wondering why you were suggesting that Cyclic Redundancy Checks would make a good project ;-) From thomas at viner.plus.com Mon Jan 4 16:57:26 2010 From: thomas at viner.plus.com (Tom Viner) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 15:57:26 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Code Dojo - yesterday and next year... In-Reply-To: <001485f0b134ab5bea047c49f37b@google.com> References: <20100103214939.GA8895@pina.cat> <001485f0b134ab5bea047c49f37b@google.com> Message-ID: 2010/1/3 : > On Jan 3, 2010 9:49pm, Carles Pina i Estany wrote: >> >> see you in 4 days! >> >> >> >> Any planning/schedule? >> >> > > If anyone is interested I would like to throw doing CRC design into the mix > - I think it would work well with splitting the dojo into small groups. > > CRC design is a simple way of doing software design as a team using index > cards to represent classes, invented by Ward Cunningham and Kent Beck (who > also invented Extreme Programming). > > I could do a 5-minute introduction to CRC then the teams could do a short > CRC design session before they start or while coding. > > You can read more about CRC here: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class-Responsibility-Collaboration_card > http://www.agilemodeling.com/artifacts/crcModel.htm > http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?CrcCard > > Dave Interesting idea Dave. I heard about this method in a FLOSS podcast ( http://twit.tv/floss27 ) where Ward explains how the system evolved from the discussions they had at the initial design stage of new projects. But I've never really tried it. Could be a good way to add some thought to program structure while learning a new methodology. Assuming people think this could help - I wasn't at the first 3 sessions so I don't know what type of planning took place before the first pilot started banging some code out for the twitter graph & tic-tac-toe tasks. Tom From tavspam at gmail.com Mon Jan 4 12:15:49 2010 From: tavspam at gmail.com (Tom Viner) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 11:15:49 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Code Dojo - yesterday and next year... In-Reply-To: <001485f0b134ab5bea047c49f37b@google.com> References: <20100103214939.GA8895@pina.cat> <001485f0b134ab5bea047c49f37b@google.com> Message-ID: 2010/1/3 : > On Jan 3, 2010 9:49pm, Carles Pina i Estany wrote: >> >> see you in 4 days! >> >> >> >> Any planning/schedule? >> >> > > If anyone is interested I would like to throw doing CRC design into the mix > - I think it would work well with splitting the dojo into small groups. > > CRC design is a simple way of doing software design as a team using index > cards to represent classes, invented by Ward Cunningham and Kent Beck (who > also invented Extreme Programming). > > I could do a 5-minute introduction to CRC then the teams could do a short > CRC design session before they start or while coding. > > You can read more about CRC here: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class-Responsibility-Collaboration_card > http://www.agilemodeling.com/artifacts/crcModel.htm > http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?CrcCard > > Dave Interesting idea Dave. I heard about this method in a FLOSS podcast ( http://twit.tv/floss27 ) where Ward explains how the system evolved from the discussions they had at the initial design stage. But I've never really tried it. Could be a good way to add some thought to program structure while learning a new methodology. Assuming people think this could help - I wasn't at the first 3 sessions so I don't know how much planning (and what type) took place before the first pilot started banging some code out on the twitter graph & tac-tac-toe tasks. Tom From ntoll at ntoll.org Fri Jan 8 17:16:35 2010 From: ntoll at ntoll.org (Nicholas Tollervey) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 16:16:35 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Code Dojo Message-ID: Folks, Last night's dojo was a lot of fun: we worked in small teams on the beginnings of a text-based adventure game. If you're interested you can see what we got up to here: http://github.com/ntoll/code-dojo/tree/master/adventure/ (I'm still waiting on the code from teams 1, 3 and 5 - nudge, nudge..!) Photos and comments have appeared on Twitter: https://twitter.com/#search?q=%23ldnpydojo There are at least three blog write-ups that I know of: http://ntoll.org/article/an-adventurous-code-dojo http://otfrom.wordpress.com/2010/01/08/5th-london-python-dojo/ http://andykilner.co.uk/2010/01/08/team-octopodes-ldnpydojo/ The next dojo will be happening on the 4th February and you can already sign up here: http://ldnpydojo.eventwax.com/6th-london-python-code-dojo We'll continue to develop and add features to the nascent adventure game and there will be the usual free pizza and beer from 18:30 and an O'Reilly book from a lucky contributor. Feedback and good ideas most welcome, Best wishes, Nicholas. From mail at timgolden.me.uk Fri Jan 8 18:27:44 2010 From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden) Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 17:27:44 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Code Dojo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B476B10.4060204@timgolden.me.uk> On 08/01/2010 16:16, Nicholas Tollervey wrote: > Last night's dojo was a lot of fun: we worked in small teams >on the beginnings of a text-based adventure game. Looks like fun: v. sorry I couldn't make it; just got back this pm from a week in Cheshire. Definitely up for the next one. TJG From stephenemslie at gmail.com Mon Jan 11 16:16:18 2010 From: stephenemslie at gmail.com (Stephen Emslie) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 15:16:18 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] ANN: Next London Pyssup: Wed 20 Jan - Welcome to MMX! In-Reply-To: <51f97e531001110705m68f79360l5bd8dd46d66398e2@mail.gmail.com> References: <51f97e531001110705m68f79360l5bd8dd46d66398e2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <51f97e531001110716y50c9efb2t4d58218e98e61f61@mail.gmail.com> This month's London Pyssup will take place at the Ye Olde Cheshire Cheese on Fleet street. It's a Sam Smiths pub so should be easy on the post Christmas wallet. It has a nice vaulted cellar and plenty of atmosphere. The Pyssup is an informal monthly meetup for anyone interested in Python or programming in general. There's an open area by the downstairs bar where we can gather. Can of spam or similarly Python related items/clothing will be on display but the lack of suits should be enough of a givaway. Time: Jan 20 2010, 7pm - 11pm Venue: http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/15/1513/Ye_Olde_Cheshire_Cheese/Fleet_Street See you there Stephen Emslie and Andy Kilner -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From juan at amplicate.com Tue Jan 12 12:25:41 2010 From: juan at amplicate.com (Juan Alvarez) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 11:25:41 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Developer Message-ID: <6228fd9d1001120325q1ef5a6afj2061ffb641fc640f@mail.gmail.com> Hello everyone, I couldn't figure out if I was allow or not to send a Python job offer over here, but here we go: We are hiring a Talented Python Developer (London, Silicon Roundabout area), innovative web start-up, nice environment, etc: More details: http://amplicate.com/jobs/ Cheers, Juan From ben at creue.co.uk Tue Jan 12 18:59:38 2010 From: ben at creue.co.uk (Ben Corke) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:59:38 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Developer In-Reply-To: <6228fd9d1001120325q1ef5a6afj2061ffb641fc640f@mail.gmail.com> References: <6228fd9d1001120325q1ef5a6afj2061ffb641fc640f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <-7063672058960432236@unknownmsgid> Juan, I have enjoyed great sucess using the Python.org Job Board http://www.python.org/community/jobs/ ... If you haven't worked that out already that is :) You should get good response, if not, I am a recruiter by day (and hobbiest Python Developer by night :) with plenty of contacts, so if you get stuck, just let me know. Cheers Ben Kind regards, Ben Corke Director python.creue +44 (0) 7875 188852 www.creue.com Creue Consulting Ltd is a company registered in England & Wales. On 12 Jan 2010, at 11:25, Juan Alvarez wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I couldn't figure out if I was allow or not to send a Python job offer > over here, but here we go: > > We are hiring a Talented Python Developer (London, Silicon Roundabout > area), innovative web start-up, nice environment, etc: > > More details: http://amplicate.com/jobs/ > > > Cheers, > > Juan > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk From pierre.schmidt at gmail.com Thu Jan 14 17:41:21 2010 From: pierre.schmidt at gmail.com (Pierre Schmidt) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:41:21 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Developer In-Reply-To: <-7063672058960432236@unknownmsgid> References: <6228fd9d1001120325q1ef5a6afj2061ffb641fc640f@mail.gmail.com> <-7063672058960432236@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <24aa76a01001140841n54c6d901x9e3f890536157854@mail.gmail.com> http://www.flickr.com/photos/mbiddulph/4273621067/ uh... On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Ben Corke wrote: > Juan, > > I have enjoyed great sucess using the Python.org Job Board > http://www.python.org/community/jobs/ > ... If you haven't worked that out already that is :) > > You should get good response, if not, I am a recruiter by day (and > hobbiest Python Developer by night :) with plenty of contacts, so if > you get stuck, just let me know. > > Cheers > > Ben > > Kind regards, > > Ben Corke > Director > python.creue > > +44 (0) 7875 188852 > www.creue.com > > Creue Consulting Ltd is a company registered in England & Wales. > > On 12 Jan 2010, at 11:25, Juan Alvarez wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> I couldn't figure out if I was allow or not to send a Python job offer >> over here, but here we go: >> >> We are hiring a Talented Python Developer (London, Silicon Roundabout >> area), innovative web start-up, nice environment, etc: >> >> More details: http://amplicate.com/jobs/ >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Juan >> _______________________________________________ >> python-uk mailing list >> python-uk at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > From gnublade at googlemail.com Mon Jan 18 16:38:31 2010 From: gnublade at googlemail.com (Andy Kilner) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:38:31 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] ANN: Next London Pyssup: Wed 20 Jan - Welcome to MMX! In-Reply-To: <51f97e531001110716y50c9efb2t4d58218e98e61f61@mail.gmail.com> References: <51f97e531001110705m68f79360l5bd8dd46d66398e2@mail.gmail.com> <51f97e531001110716y50c9efb2t4d58218e98e61f61@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6294ac991001180738l2e9d2eb9he31223773fba13df@mail.gmail.com> Ay up, Just a reminder that we're having a London Python pub meet (#pyssup) this Wednesday from 7pm at the Ye Olde Cheshire Cheese on Fleet Street. Come and share your war stories and show off your battle wounds, and maybe plot adventure game scenarios for the next Python dojo. Details below and at http://twtvite.com/dqh98e for those of us with a web 2.0 addiction. Hope to see you there. Cheers, Andy & Steve 2010/1/11 Stephen Emslie : > This month's London Pyssup will take place at the Ye Olde Cheshire Cheese on > Fleet street. It's a Sam Smiths pub so should be easy on the post Christmas > wallet. It has a nice vaulted cellar and plenty of atmosphere. > > The Pyssup is an informal monthly meetup for anyone interested in Python or > programming in general. > > There's an open area by the downstairs bar where we can gather. Can of spam > or similarly Python related items/clothing will be on display but the lack > of suits should be enough of a givaway. > Time:?Jan 20 2010, 7pm - 11pm > Venue: > http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/15/1513/Ye_Olde_Cheshire_Cheese/Fleet_Street > > See you there > Stephen Emslie and Andy Kilner > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > > From hassan.baig at alumni.duke.edu Mon Jan 25 08:39:35 2010 From: hassan.baig at alumni.duke.edu (Hassan Baig) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 12:39:35 +0500 Subject: [python-uk] Python/Django issue In-Reply-To: <6fa835a81001242337j53ea9583n21fa062468dc7e2b@mail.gmail.com> References: <6fa835a81001242318s48e134b5ma9975af5bdd1e462@mail.gmail.com> <6fa835a81001242336t1b3c52d0wde38269b8953761a@mail.gmail.com> <6fa835a81001242336l1b03e91cl51b72957d331f69e@mail.gmail.com> <6fa835a81001242337j53ea9583n21fa062468dc7e2b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6fa835a81001242339i4900893yfe8132fd582d9596@mail.gmail.com> Dear Python UK Experts, I hope you're all doing great. I was wondering if you could help out in a basic query. I'm a Facebook developer and I'm facing the following problem: I have a flash file which calls up a url say http://test.com/createXML/ which is caught and used up by a python/django code and it creates and redirects to an XML. which is loaded by flash, to get values from the database. The setup works fine when outside facebook, but as soon as I put the setup in facebook, it stops loading the XML completely. Any clues? -Hassan Baig -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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What cross domain/same origin policies is the flash subject to? Can you break down the problem? Eliminate flash by making the same call to facebook, but with wget or python. Alex -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tibs at tibsnjoan.co.uk Tue Jan 26 20:35:53 2010 From: tibs at tibsnjoan.co.uk (Tony Ibbs) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:35:53 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Next Cambridge & East Anglia Meeting: Tue 2nd Feb 2010 Message-ID: <8DF12240-A5B1-4A11-A23B-28C32B400128@tibsnjoan.co.uk> Summarising from the CamPUG Google Group: The Cambridge and East Anglia Python Users Group will be holding another Python Code Dojo on Tuesday 2nd February. This will once again be hosted by RealVNC at their offices here: http://tinyurl.com/realvncoffices, and will start at 7.30pm. Tibs From jjl at pobox.com Tue Jan 26 23:12:14 2010 From: jjl at pobox.com (John J Lee) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 22:12:14 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [python-uk] Next Cambridge & East Anglia Meeting: Tue 2nd Feb 2010 In-Reply-To: <8DF12240-A5B1-4A11-A23B-28C32B400128@tibsnjoan.co.uk> References: <8DF12240-A5B1-4A11-A23B-28C32B400128@tibsnjoan.co.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, 26 Jan 2010, Tony Ibbs wrote: > Summarising from the CamPUG Google Group: > > The Cambridge and East Anglia Python Users Group will be holding another > Python Code Dojo on Tuesday 2nd February. This will once again be > hosted by RealVNC at their offices here: > http://tinyurl.com/realvncoffices, and will start at 7.30pm. Can we VNC in? ;-P I guess that's about <0.8 wink> John From tibs at tibsnjoan.co.uk Tue Jan 26 23:46:26 2010 From: tibs at tibsnjoan.co.uk (Tony Ibbs) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 22:46:26 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Next Cambridge & East Anglia Meeting: Tue 2nd Feb 2010 In-Reply-To: References: <8DF12240-A5B1-4A11-A23B-28C32B400128@tibsnjoan.co.uk> Message-ID: <8AB0881E-00BB-426B-A1B2-655ACCEF824E@tibsnjoan.co.uk> On 26 Jan 2010, at 22:12, John J Lee wrote: > On Tue, 26 Jan 2010, Tony Ibbs wrote: > >> The Cambridge and East Anglia Python Users Group will be holding another Python Code Dojo ... hosted by RealVNC > > Can we VNC in? ;-P > > I guess that's about <0.8 wink> Now you're making me wonder - but there'd have to be two of you... <0.3 wink> 'cos it's not as funny Tibs From ntoll at ntoll.org Thu Jan 28 11:29:45 2010 From: ntoll at ntoll.org (Nicholas Tollervey) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 10:29:45 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] London Code Dojo Reminder Message-ID: <5E79F878-6674-40B2-A094-2C28EE8D2E76@ntoll.org> Folks, Just a quick reminder that the next London Python code dojo will be happening on the 4th February (a week today). Details and sign up here: http://ldnpydojo.eventwax.com/6th-london-python-code-dojo We'll continue to develop and add features to the nascent adventure game and there will be the usual free pizza and beer from 18:30 and an O'Reilly book for a lucky contributor ("Python for Unix and Linux System Administration"). As always, feedback, ideas, comments and suggestions most welcome. See you there! Nicholas.