From ooftrack at mac.com  Tue Mar  3 04:46:34 2009
From: ooftrack at mac.com (Malte Beckmann)
Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 04:46:34 +0100
Subject: [python-uk] <?python ...?>
Message-ID: <5B0A6198-2FB9-404A-9432-7DEBCA4B2B93@mac.com>

Hello!

Just wrote my first 30 odd python scripts and loving this language.

But do, however, have a burning question on my mind.

Why can I not just do <?python ... ?> in my webpages like I can do  
with PHP?

Cheers! /m



From umarhafeez at yahoo.com  Tue Mar  3 07:30:20 2009
From: umarhafeez at yahoo.com (umar)
Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 06:30:20 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] <?python ...?>
In-Reply-To: <5B0A6198-2FB9-404A-9432-7DEBCA4B2B93@mac.com>
References: <5B0A6198-2FB9-404A-9432-7DEBCA4B2B93@mac.com>
Message-ID: <49ACCE7C.70804@yahoo.com>

http://www.python.org/community/pycon/dc2004/papers/14/
http://www.howtoforge.com/embedding-python-in-apache2-with-mod_python-debian-ubuntu-fedora-centos-mandriva-opensuse

If I were you, I would stick with CGI interface to python scripts. In 
above cases the server needs to be modified (as in PHP,
the only difference is that a lot of hosting companies particular shared 
hosting offer the server which can interpret embedded
javascript and php code but not embedded python).

This might just be my misconception but making use CGI interface may 
also offer more security than going for embedding option.

Well I am just amateur myself...

Regards



Malte Beckmann wrote:
> Hello!
>
> Just wrote my first 30 odd python scripts and loving this language.
>
> But do, however, have a burning question on my mind.
>
> Why can I not just do <?python ... ?> in my webpages like I can do 
> with PHP?
>
> Cheers! /m
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> python-uk mailing list
> python-uk at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
>

From robinshields at gmail.com  Tue Mar  3 08:46:40 2009
From: robinshields at gmail.com (Robin Shields)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 07:46:40 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] <?python ...?>
In-Reply-To: <49ACCE7C.70804@yahoo.com>
References: <5B0A6198-2FB9-404A-9432-7DEBCA4B2B93@mac.com>
	<49ACCE7C.70804@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ef132f310903022346v3f7cd502ye44745f198ae1847@mail.gmail.com>

I would think the indentation in python would make this pretty difficult,
indentation doesn't matter much with php because it uses curly braces, so it
can be mixed in with html quite easily (although this is becoming less
common).  For this reason, most python web frameworks, (e.g. Django and
CherryPy) use specialised templating languages, they are both worth checking
out.

On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 6:30 AM, umar <umarhafeez at yahoo.com> wrote:

> http://www.python.org/community/pycon/dc2004/papers/14/
>
> http://www.howtoforge.com/embedding-python-in-apache2-with-mod_python-debian-ubuntu-fedora-centos-mandriva-opensuse
>
> If I were you, I would stick with CGI interface to python scripts. In above
> cases the server needs to be modified (as in PHP,
> the only difference is that a lot of hosting companies particular shared
> hosting offer the server which can interpret embedded
> javascript and php code but not embedded python).
>
> This might just be my misconception but making use CGI interface may also
> offer more security than going for embedding option.
>
> Well I am just amateur myself...
>
> Regards
>
>
>
>
> Malte Beckmann wrote:
>
>> Hello!
>>
>> Just wrote my first 30 odd python scripts and loving this language.
>>
>> But do, however, have a burning question on my mind.
>>
>> Why can I not just do <?python ... ?> in my webpages like I can do with
>> PHP?
>>
>> Cheers! /m
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> python-uk mailing list
>> python-uk at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
>>
>>  _______________________________________________
> python-uk mailing list
> python-uk at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
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From doug at isotoma.com  Tue Mar  3 08:57:42 2009
From: doug at isotoma.com (Doug Winter)
Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 07:57:42 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] <?python ...?>
In-Reply-To: <5B0A6198-2FB9-404A-9432-7DEBCA4B2B93@mac.com>
References: <5B0A6198-2FB9-404A-9432-7DEBCA4B2B93@mac.com>
Message-ID: <49ACE2F6.2040506@isotoma.com>

Malte Beckmann wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> Just wrote my first 30 odd python scripts and loving this language.
> 
> But do, however, have a burning question on my mind.
> 
> Why can I not just do <?python ... ?> in my webpages like I can do with
> PHP?

I believe mod_python does support this style of programming:

http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/python/2004/02/26/python_server_pages.html

Although I've not tried it, and some of the links google suggested were
quite dead.

Generally I think embedding bits of code in a tag soup is generally
regarded as a pretty poor way of building anything other than the most
trivial applications.

I suggest you take a look at Django:

http://www.djangoproject.com/

This gives you everything you'd get with the page-embedded style, but
gives allows you to do Real Programming too.

Cheers,

Doug.

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From funthyme at gmail.com  Tue Mar  3 10:10:00 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 09:10:00 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] <?python ...?>
In-Reply-To: <5B0A6198-2FB9-404A-9432-7DEBCA4B2B93@mac.com>
References: <5B0A6198-2FB9-404A-9432-7DEBCA4B2B93@mac.com>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0903030110q274d45eey72889ee9b2dd5439@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Malte,

2009/3/3 Malte Beckmann <ooftrack at mac.com>:
> Hello!
>
> Just wrote my first 30 odd python scripts and loving this language.

Welcome!

You need to go here then: http://www.europython.eu

> But do, however, have a burning question on my mind.
>
> Why can I not just do <?python ... ?> in my webpages like I can do with PHP?

Because you don't want the sort of mess you get with PHP ?

Look at Django, TurboGears and PyLons for better ways of doing what
you do with PHP. They all make a pretty good job of separating code
and presentation.

There will be experts in all of these, and tutorials, at EuroPython.

Best wishes,

John
--

From rohit.aggarwal at gmail.com  Tue Mar  3 14:32:13 2009
From: rohit.aggarwal at gmail.com (Rohit Aggarwal)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 13:32:13 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] Python Developers Wanted
Message-ID: <c4565f590903030532g67c4aa9amfaf1ad4b72f94b0e@mail.gmail.com>

Looking for Python developers in London
Job Description: Python Developers (Contract)

Prytania Services LLP is currently looking for a number of python
developers to further develop and enhance our leading-edge structured
finance portfolio analysis system. As a developer, your primary
responsibility will be to help create, maintain, and test new and
existing software components. An ideal candidate will have a computer
science or mathematics background, experience in object-oriented
programming, and an interest in finance. No prior experience in
finance is required, but you should be prepared to learn.

Company Description:
The Prytania Group is an independent structured finance and credit
specialist, providing asset management, risk advisory and analytical
services to its clients. The Prytania Group is made up of Prytania
Holdings LLP (parent), Prytania Investment Advisors LLP and Prytania
Services LLP. Prytania Investment Advisors LLP is at the leading edge
of investment management for some of the most complex and interesting
securities in the market, such as collateralized debt obligations and
asset backed securities, on behalf of global institutional investors.
Prytania Services LLP develops market-leading analytical and risk
management tools for structured finance and credit, providing a level
of insight, understanding and awareness not currently available
commercially.

Applicants must be able to work in a thriving, dynamic and
team-orientated environment. Analytical and entrepreneurial thinking,
creativity, attention to detail, communication and the ability to meet
deadlines are essential skills.

Requirements:
Strong skills in Python and one of the following C#, Java, C++
Excellent knowledge of databases and SQL. We use PostgreSQL and SQLite.
Good knowledge of Linux Environments.
Good knowledge of GUI Development.

Additional Skills Desired:
Experience in Adobe Flex.
Experience with Mercurial, SVN, CVS or other version control system.
Extensive knowledge and overview of open source software.

Location: London, UK
Start ASAP for a minimum of 3 months
Rate - Negotiable

* Contact: Effie Dracou
* E-mail contact: edracou at prytaniagroup.com
* Web: http://www.prytaniaservices.com

From dan.fairs at gmail.com  Tue Mar  3 15:11:53 2009
From: dan.fairs at gmail.com (Dan Fairs)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:11:53 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] Next Cambridge & East Anglia Meeting: Tue 3rd March
	2009
In-Reply-To: <770520E2-C1D6-4EB4-A514-5F60186A3C28@tibsnjoan.co.uk>
References: <770520E2-C1D6-4EB4-A514-5F60186A3C28@tibsnjoan.co.uk>
Message-ID: <48D18C2D-43F6-4B51-94AB-F487F10B1BCE@gmail.com>

Hi,


> The next meeting will be Tuesday 3rd March, at RealVNC
> (see below).


What time is this kicking off?

Thanks,
Dan

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From funthyme at gmail.com  Fri Mar  6 18:01:14 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:01:14 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] EuroPython in England. DON'T MISS OUT
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0903060901o15af2cebma71a664a05f9c29f@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

Just a reminder that Extra Early Bird rate runs out next Tuesday.

See http://www.europython.eu

EuroPython runs from 30th June to 3rd July in Birmingham, with
Tutorials and Sprints before/after.

Act now!

Best wishes,

John
--

From buzzard at contactbox.co.uk  Fri Mar  6 18:40:12 2009
From: buzzard at contactbox.co.uk (duncan smith)
Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:40:12 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] EuroPython in England. DON'T MISS OUT
In-Reply-To: <ff8a32f0903060901o15af2cebma71a664a05f9c29f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ff8a32f0903060901o15af2cebma71a664a05f9c29f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49B15FFC.2090305@contactbox.co.uk>

John Pinner wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Just a reminder that Extra Early Bird rate runs out next Tuesday.
> 

On the 14th according to the site.  I hope the site's not wrong (or I
might have to pay the full whack).

Duncan

From funthyme at gmail.com  Fri Mar  6 18:54:16 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:54:16 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] EuroPython in England. DON'T MISS OUT
In-Reply-To: <49B15FFC.2090305@contactbox.co.uk>
References: <ff8a32f0903060901o15af2cebma71a664a05f9c29f@mail.gmail.com>
	<49B15FFC.2090305@contactbox.co.uk>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0903060954o318f79cam89d070f0d75cd9bf@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

2009/3/6 duncan smith <buzzard at contactbox.co.uk>:
> John Pinner wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Just a reminder that Extra Early Bird rate runs out next Tuesday.
>>
>
> On the 14th according to the site. ?I hope the site's not wrong (or I
> might have to pay the full whack).

No, I'm wrong.

At least I proved someone was there!

John
--

From ross.lawley at gmail.com  Tue Mar 10 18:07:51 2009
From: ross.lawley at gmail.com (Ross Lawley)
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:07:51 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] Python (Django) role in London.
Message-ID: <305366200903101007g32692f2v44b1694dd12dd2e4@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,

For anyone who is on the look out for a new job in London, my company has
just announced a new vacancy.  We're a good bunch, so if you are too you can
find more information here: http://djangogigs.com/gigs/576/

Cheers,
Ross
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From pythonjobs at googlemail.com  Wed Mar 11 15:42:27 2009
From: pythonjobs at googlemail.com (Python Recruiter)
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:42:27 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] Python Developer Wanted - London
Message-ID: <5b2198d10903110742n6fea9b64i8c952f8cf2f73c7f@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

I am currently looking for the following;

Salary - ?20-?40k + 25-35 days holiday per year + Discretionary bonus scheme
+ Very Flexible working hours + Relaxed and informal working environment.

*Company
*A profit making and established company based in London was set up in 2006.
Using cutting-edge technology and city proven algorithms, they have
succeeded in becoming a leading supplier of automatic trading and hedging
tools. Due continual expansion we are looking for technically and
mathematically motivated candidate who are keen to work on mentally
stimulating projects.

*Technical Profile:*
As part of the development team you will have a broad technical base which
must include a strong interest in and knowledge of Unix / Linux and ideally
some experience of scripting languages, ideally Python. An interest in
functional programming and its application in the real world would be useful
Specifically, Python or Erlang.

*Person*
The sort of person we're looking for must have a degree form a leading
Redbrick University or equivalent, personal interest in programming and the
desire to programme in Python.

You will also need to have a well-rounded understanding of computer software
to be able to do all of that. It's your project, and you'll need to put all
the pieces together to make it work. While you'll have lots of expertise
available to help, what you won't find is a separate department to do all
the things some programmers wouldn't normally do (setting up Linux servers,
administering a database, etc).

If you believe that you have the skills to fit this role, please send me
your CV asap.
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From tibs at tibsnjoan.co.uk  Wed Mar 25 21:30:18 2009
From: tibs at tibsnjoan.co.uk (Tony Ibbs)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:30:18 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] Next Cambridge & East Anglia Meetings: Tue 7th April
	2009
Message-ID: <EFA98B6A-CFA1-49FC-862D-A73F70F51E8C@tibsnjoan.co.uk>

As sent to the CamPUG Google Group:

The next meeting will be Tuesday 7th April 2009, 8pm at the Carlton Arms

The meetings thereafter will be:

* Tuesday 5th May, talks and suchlike
* Tuesday 2nd June, pub meeting

Any volunteers for talks in June would be very welcome - as normal,  
please contact the CamPUG list or myself.

Remember that EuroPython 2009 will be in Birmingham, with the main  
event being Tuesday 30th June through Thursday 2nd July. See http://www.europython.eu/ 
  for more details.

The CamPUG meeting after that, Tuesday 7th July, will thus also be a  
pub meeting (since I'm assuming we'll all still be recovering - you  
are intending to go, aren't you?).

Tibs

From funthyme at gmail.com  Wed Mar 25 23:33:02 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:33:02 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] Next Cambridge & East Anglia Meetings: Tue 7th
	April 2009
In-Reply-To: <EFA98B6A-CFA1-49FC-862D-A73F70F51E8C@tibsnjoan.co.uk>
References: <EFA98B6A-CFA1-49FC-862D-A73F70F51E8C@tibsnjoan.co.uk>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0903251533p1df14323x2ded338ed40c80f8@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Tony!

John
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2009/3/25 Tony Ibbs <tibs at tibsnjoan.co.uk>:
> As sent to the CamPUG Google Group:
>
> The next meeting will be Tuesday 7th April 2009, 8pm at the Carlton Arms
>
> The meetings thereafter will be:
>
> * Tuesday 5th May, talks and suchlike
> * Tuesday 2nd June, pub meeting
>
> Any volunteers for talks in June would be very welcome - as normal, please
> contact the CamPUG list or myself.
>
> Remember that EuroPython 2009 will be in Birmingham, with the main event
> being Tuesday 30th June through Thursday 2nd July. See
> http://www.europython.eu/?for more details.
>
> The CamPUG meeting after that, Tuesday 7th July, will thus also be a pub
> meeting (since I'm assuming we'll all still be recovering - you are
> intending to go, aren't you?).
>
> Tibs
> _______________________________________________
> python-uk mailing list
> python-uk at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
>

From robert.lofthouse at siudesign.co.uk  Thu Mar 26 13:42:28 2009
From: robert.lofthouse at siudesign.co.uk (Robert [Siu Design])
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:42:28 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] DJUGL (Django User Group London) April 7th 2009
Message-ID: <7bdcdcf60903260542k19f44228n895a219557fcb548@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

DJUGL (Django User Group London) will be on again on April 7th at the
Capital Radio Building in Leicester Square.

I am currently confirming speakers for the event, but the format will be as
follows: 2 speakers (20-25 mins each) and a lightning talk session (20-25
mins, split into smaller sessions). The user group gets full up pretty
quickly (we have 80 "tickets" and all 80 are always gone), so if you're
interested then register as soon as possible.

I haven't noticed too much activity in the Python London scene recently so
any Python guys, not just those who use Django, should come along as it's
always fun.

Register here: http://djugl.eventwax.com/djugl-april-2009

Regards

Rob (@robertlofthouse)
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From robert.lofthouse at siudesign.co.uk  Thu Mar 26 13:50:14 2009
From: robert.lofthouse at siudesign.co.uk (Robert [Siu Design])
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:50:14 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] EuroDjangoCon '09
Message-ID: <7bdcdcf60903260550x5574ef2aq7063faee3f776d50@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Just to let you know you can still register for EuroDjangoCon '09 (
http://eurodjangocon.eventbrite.com/). The other levels of prices were
scrapped and instead we're just going with the early bird rates. It will be
in Prague on May 4th - 6th (conference days) and 7th - 8th (sprint days).

The venue has changed to the Iris Congress Hotel (
http://www.hoteliris.cz/en/) and the conference is now single track. When
you register you can take advantage of the room block we have with the
hotel: single room at ?61 and double room at ?71 (last time I did the price
conversion from CZK), this price includes a buffet breakfast. At
EuroDjangoCon you will have an afternoon coffee break and a buffet lunch as
well.

We have recently received sponsorship from Google, Fry IT (
http://www.fry-it.com/) and Centrum (http://www.centrumholdings.com/novinky/),
so thanks to all those companies.

You can find more information at http://euro.djangocon.org/ or the blog at
http://euro.djangocon.org/blog/

REGISTER for the conference here: http://eurodjangocon.eventbrite.com/

Regards

Robert Lofthouse (@robertlofthouse)
EuroDjangoCon/DjangoCon Chairman
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