From mail at timgolden.me.uk Mon Jul 2 11:34:40 2007 From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden) Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 10:34:40 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] ann: Python at the IET Message-ID: <4688C6B0.1000804@timgolden.me.uk> If you're in London around 6.30pm this Thursday evening, July 5th 2007, you might want to drop in on The Institution of Engineering and Technology [1] on the Embankment near Waterloo Bridge [2] for "A Light byte of Python" [3]. Michael Grazebrook, Pete Ryland and I are flying the Python flag for the benefit of technologists who have not yet had the pleasure. Michael will be using ctypes to control a USB-interfaced sensor kit; Pete will be demoing user interfaces; I'll be using BeautifulSoup and sqlite3 to populate a database from a web page and (time permitting) using csv and ReportLab to push it back out again. We're presenting the thing as a bring-a-laptop workshop, and it would be great if we had experienced Pythoneers along to help afterwards (in addition to ourselves). The take-up's been quite high for the event and there's tea & coffee beforehand and sandwiches afterwards. Tim Golden [1] http://www.theiet.org/ [2] http://www.iee.org/OnComms/Branches/UK/england/SEastE/london/Venues/savoy.cfm [3] http://www.iee.org/OnComms/Branches/UK/england/SEastE/london/Events/july.cfm From Pierre.DeWet at BITC.ORG.UK Mon Jul 2 12:30:35 2007 From: Pierre.DeWet at BITC.ORG.UK (Pierre DeWet) Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 11:30:35 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] ann: Python at the IET Message-ID: Sounds cool. Registration is closed for this,though. Is it still worth turning up and hoping for the best? :) Pierre >>> On 02/07/2007 at 10:34, mail at timgolden.me.uk wrote: If you're in London around 6.30pm this Thursday evening, July 5th 2007, you might want to drop in on The Institution of Engineering and Technology [1] on the Embankment near Waterloo Bridge [2] for "A Light byte of Python" [3]. Michael Grazebrook, Pete Ryland and I are flying the Python flag for the benefit of technologists who have not yet had the pleasure. Michael will be using ctypes to control a USB-interfaced sensor kit; Pete will be demoing user interfaces; I'll be using BeautifulSoup and sqlite3 to populate a database from a web page and (time permitting) using csv and ReportLab to push it back out again. We're presenting the thing as a bring-a-laptop workshop, and it would be great if we had experienced Pythoneers along to help afterwards (in addition to ourselves). The take-up's been quite high for the event and there's tea & coffee beforehand and sandwiches afterwards. Tim Golden [1] http://www.theiet.org/ [2] http://www.iee.org/OnComms/Branches/UK/england/SEastE/london/Venues/savoy.cfm [3] http://www.iee.org/OnComms/Branches/UK/england/SEastE/london/Events/july.cfm _______________________________________________ python-uk mailing list python-uk at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star. The service is powered by MessageLabs. 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Is it still worth turning up > and hoping for the best? :) I believe so. They don't expect everyone to turn up who's registered. The last time I was there I didn't register beforehand; just turned up on the night and there wasn't a problem. TJG > > Pierre > >>>> On 02/07/2007 at 10:34, mail at timgolden.me.uk wrote: > If you're in London around 6.30pm this Thursday evening, July 5th 2007, > you might want to drop in on The Institution of > Engineering and Technology [1] on the Embankment near Waterloo Bridge > [2] for "A Light byte of Python" [3]. Michael > Grazebrook, Pete Ryland and I are flying the Python flag for the > benefit of technologists who have not yet had the > pleasure. Michael will be using ctypes to control a USB-interfaced > sensor kit; Pete will be demoing user interfaces; > I'll be using BeautifulSoup and sqlite3 to populate a database from a > web page and (time permitting) using csv and > ReportLab to push it back out again. > > We're presenting the thing as a bring-a-laptop workshop, and it would > be great if we had experienced Pythoneers along to > help afterwards (in addition to ourselves). The take-up's been quite > high for the event and there's tea & coffee > beforehand and sandwiches afterwards. > > Tim Golden > > [1] http://www.theiet.org/ > [2] > http://www.iee.org/OnComms/Branches/UK/england/SEastE/london/Venues/savoy.cfm > [3] > http://www.iee.org/OnComms/Branches/UK/england/SEastE/london/Events/july.cfm > > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > > ________________________________________________________________________ > This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star. The > service is powered by MessageLabs. 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For more information on a proactive > anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: > http://www.star.net.uk > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk From wildfire at progsoc.org Tue Jul 3 11:25:51 2007 From: wildfire at progsoc.org (Anand Kumria) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 09:25:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [python-uk] ann: Python at the IET References: <4688C6B0.1000804@timgolden.me.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 10:34:40 +0100, Tim Golden wrote: > If you're in London around 6.30pm this Thursday evening, July 5th 2007, > you might want to drop in on The Institution of Engineering and > Technology [1] on the Embankment near Waterloo Bridge [2] for "A Light > byte of Python" [3]. Michael Grazebrook, Pete Ryland and I are flying > the Python flag for the benefit of technologists who have not yet had > the pleasure. Michael will be using ctypes to control a USB-interfaced > sensor kit; Pete will be demoing user interfaces; I'll be using > BeautifulSoup and sqlite3 to populate a database from a web page and > (time permitting) using csv and ReportLab to push it back out again. > > We're presenting the thing as a bring-a-laptop workshop, and it would be > great if we had experienced Pythoneers along to > help afterwards (in addition to ourselves). The take-up's been quite > high for the event and there's tea & coffee > beforehand and sandwiches afterwards. Cool! I expect to see you there. Apart from looking for other people with laptop, do we need to pre- register our attendence or anything? Cheers, Anand From mail at timgolden.me.uk Tue Jul 3 12:00:14 2007 From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 11:00:14 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] ann: Python at the IET In-Reply-To: References: <4688C6B0.1000804@timgolden.me.uk> Message-ID: <468A1E2E.4080101@timgolden.me.uk> Anand Kumria wrote: [... snip Python IET details ...] > Cool! I expect to see you there. > > Apart from looking for other people with laptop, do we need to pre- > register our attendence or anything? Well, really, yes. But the thing's been so popular that registration was closed the last time I looked. If you want to take your chances, you can probably just turn up at the door and see if there's space in the lecture hall. (Assuming that not everyone who books actually turns up). TJG From mgrazebrook at compuserve.com Tue Jul 3 13:11:56 2007 From: mgrazebrook at compuserve.com (Michael Grazebrook) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 12:11:56 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] ann: Python at the IET In-Reply-To: References: <4688C6B0.1000804@timgolden.me.uk> Message-ID: <468A2EFC.3050709@compuserve.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-uk/attachments/20070703/8857f0a5/attachment.htm From andy at reportlab.com Tue Jul 3 23:48:40 2007 From: andy at reportlab.com (Andy Robinson) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 22:48:40 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] remove In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <956003ae0707031448v24ca99daj3e0ecc6ab141797@mail.gmail.com> On 03/07/07, britmanuk1 at hotmail.com wrote: > > Please remove this link > > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-uk/2006-December/001007.html > I'm sorry but I do not have the ability to modify the archives (and the list has already been mirrored to many other servers). I can only regulate who posts to the list. Regards, -- Andy Robinson CEO/Chief Architect ReportLab Europe Ltd. 165 The Broadway, Wimbledon, London SW19 1NE, UK Tel +44-20-8544-8049 From pyuk at france-codepostal.fr Thu Jul 5 12:02:48 2007 From: pyuk at france-codepostal.fr (richard barran) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 11:02:48 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] ann: Python at the IET In-Reply-To: <468A2EFC.3050709@compuserve.com> References: <4688C6B0.1000804@timgolden.me.uk> <468A2EFC.3050709@compuserve.com> Message-ID: <239528E2-BCF8-4F7B-94E6-55F507D0D073@france-codepostal.fr> Hi, I'd like to turn up tonight, but I haven't registered either :-( Is there a 'Plan B' for any python people who get turned away at the door? Cheers, Richard On 3/7/07, at 12:11, Michael Grazebrook wrote: > Technically you do need to pre-register, and it's booked out. But > in practice small numbers can always get in without registering, as > there are often drop-outs. It is free for non-members. I'm keen to > have a small number of Python UK people: to assist with the > practcial bit, to spread the word, and with the dream of putting on > many more lectures at the IET (but maybe on more advanced topics). > > Anand Kumria wrote: >> On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 10:34:40 +0100, Tim Golden wrote: >>> If you're in London around 6.30pm this Thursday evening, July 5th >>> 2007, you might want to drop in on The Institution of Engineering >>> and Technology [1] on the Embankment near Waterloo Bridge [2] for >>> "A Light byte of Python" [3]. Michael Grazebrook, Pete Ryland and >>> I are flying the Python flag for the benefit of technologists who >>> have not yet had the pleasure. Michael will be using ctypes to >>> control a USB-interfaced sensor kit; Pete will be demoing user >>> interfaces; I'll be using BeautifulSoup and sqlite3 to populate a >>> database from a web page and (time permitting) using csv and >>> ReportLab to push it back out again. We're presenting the thing >>> as a bring-a-laptop workshop, and it would be great if we had >>> experienced Pythoneers along to help afterwards (in addition to >>> ourselves). The take-up's been quite high for the event and >>> there's tea & coffee beforehand and sandwiches afterwards. >> Cool! I expect to see you there. Apart from looking for other >> people with laptop, do we need to pre- register our attendence or >> anything? Cheers, Anand >> _______________________________________________ python-uk mailing >> list python-uk at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/ >> python-uk > > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk From thomas.dunham at gmail.com Thu Jul 5 12:49:15 2007 From: thomas.dunham at gmail.com (Thomas Dunham) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 11:49:15 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] ann: Python at the IET In-Reply-To: <239528E2-BCF8-4F7B-94E6-55F507D0D073@france-codepostal.fr> References: <4688C6B0.1000804@timgolden.me.uk> <468A2EFC.3050709@compuserve.com> <239528E2-BCF8-4F7B-94E6-55F507D0D073@france-codepostal.fr> Message-ID: <3e5572520707050349j55e0cdd0g3769d9d40387d918@mail.gmail.com> I'm in the same situation. My plan is: try to get in, if that doesn't work and there are a few people hanging around, see if we can go along to the workshop even if the lecture is full. Failing that it's either home or the pub. Tom On 7/5/07, richard barran wrote: > Hi, > I'd like to turn up tonight, but I haven't registered either :-( Is > there a 'Plan B' for any python people who get turned away at the door? > > Cheers, > Richard > > On 3/7/07, at 12:11, Michael Grazebrook wrote: > > > Technically you do need to pre-register, and it's booked out. But > > in practice small numbers can always get in without registering, as > > there are often drop-outs. It is free for non-members. I'm keen to > > have a small number of Python UK people: to assist with the > > practcial bit, to spread the word, and with the dream of putting on > > many more lectures at the IET (but maybe on more advanced topics). > > > > Anand Kumria wrote: > >> On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 10:34:40 +0100, Tim Golden wrote: > >>> If you're in London around 6.30pm this Thursday evening, July 5th > >>> 2007, you might want to drop in on The Institution of Engineering > >>> and Technology [1] on the Embankment near Waterloo Bridge [2] for > >>> "A Light byte of Python" [3]. Michael Grazebrook, Pete Ryland and > >>> I are flying the Python flag for the benefit of technologists who > >>> have not yet had the pleasure. Michael will be using ctypes to > >>> control a USB-interfaced sensor kit; Pete will be demoing user > >>> interfaces; I'll be using BeautifulSoup and sqlite3 to populate a > >>> database from a web page and (time permitting) using csv and > >>> ReportLab to push it back out again. We're presenting the thing > >>> as a bring-a-laptop workshop, and it would be great if we had > >>> experienced Pythoneers along to help afterwards (in addition to > >>> ourselves). The take-up's been quite high for the event and > >>> there's tea & coffee beforehand and sandwiches afterwards. > >> Cool! I expect to see you there. Apart from looking for other > >> people with laptop, do we need to pre- register our attendence or > >> anything? Cheers, Anand > >> _______________________________________________ python-uk mailing > >> list python-uk at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/ > >> python-uk > > > > _______________________________________________ > > python-uk mailing list > > python-uk at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > From mgrazebrook at compuserve.com Fri Jul 6 02:14:20 2007 From: mgrazebrook at compuserve.com (Michael Grazebrook) Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 01:14:20 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] ann: Python at the IET In-Reply-To: <3e5572520707050349j55e0cdd0g3769d9d40387d918@mail.gmail.com> References: <4688C6B0.1000804@timgolden.me.uk> <468A2EFC.3050709@compuserve.com> <239528E2-BCF8-4F7B-94E6-55F507D0D073@france-codepostal.fr> <3e5572520707050349j55e0cdd0g3769d9d40387d918@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <468D895C.2060606@compuserve.com> Thanks to all who made it. We had a terrific turn-out: overbooked, but fortunately just enough people didn't show to let everyone get in. We were told to plan for 30 but got about 140. Tim did a superb presentation which both showcased the language nicely and also was easy for beginners to follow. Pete's graphical programming demo was impressive - the use of introspection to turn doc comments into tool-tip hints was clever, as was the amount he could create for very little code. About 3/4 of the audience were novices: we'd aimed it at them, but I think pitched it too high even so, and not enough practical content. Still, it seemed well received (or was everyone just too polite to say?) We certainly made our point that there's an interested audience. And I'm optimistic that we'll get more slots to put events on. So I'd be grateful for feedback - what do we want out of future events? What can we learn from this one? From fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk Sat Jul 7 02:20:26 2007 From: fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord) Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 01:20:26 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] ann: Python at the IET In-Reply-To: <468D895C.2060606@compuserve.com> References: <4688C6B0.1000804@timgolden.me.uk> <468A2EFC.3050709@compuserve.com> <239528E2-BCF8-4F7B-94E6-55F507D0D073@france-codepostal.fr> <3e5572520707050349j55e0cdd0g3769d9d40387d918@mail.gmail.com> <468D895C.2060606@compuserve.com> Message-ID: <468EDC4A.20203@voidspace.org.uk> Hello Michael, Thanks to you, Pete and Tim for organising the talk. It was *great* to see so many people attend - a very pleasant surprise. I think that for the audience a complete novices introduction might have been helpful. Maybe the next ones could be something like : * A brief introduction to Python syntax (a very basic intro) * A case study showing off a standard library module or extension module for doing something cool * A case study of Python in a particular industry or a particular application Three 20 minute sessions as the first one would work well. I promise that sometime when I am less snowed under I will volunteer to show off IronPython or Silverlight or something... The workshop style session afterwards didn't seem to happen. I think that the problem that Michael tried to set could be a good way of doing that. Set a small task and have several 'experts' on hand to help people go through it. Either chairs in the Thompson room - or carrying on afterwards in the auditorium (after a ten minute recess) might be a way to help this happen but I think people need some degree of organisation. Michael Foord http://www.voidspace.org.uk/ironpython/index.shtml Michael Grazebrook wrote: > Thanks to all who made it. We had a terrific turn-out: overbooked, but > fortunately just enough people didn't show to let everyone get in. We > were told to plan for 30 but got about 140. > > Tim did a superb presentation which both showcased the language nicely > and also was easy for beginners to follow. Pete's graphical programming > demo was impressive - the use of introspection to turn doc comments into > tool-tip hints was clever, as was the amount he could create for very > little code. > > About 3/4 of the audience were novices: we'd aimed it at them, but I > think pitched it too high even so, and not enough practical content. > Still, it seemed well received (or was everyone just too polite to say?) > > We certainly made our point that there's an interested audience. And I'm > optimistic that we'll get more slots to put events on. > > So I'd be grateful for feedback - what do we want out of future events? > What can we learn from this one? > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > > > From mail at timgolden.me.uk Sat Jul 7 15:21:10 2007 From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden) Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 14:21:10 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] ann: Python at the IET In-Reply-To: <468EDC4A.20203@voidspace.org.uk> References: <4688C6B0.1000804@timgolden.me.uk> <468A2EFC.3050709@compuserve.com> <239528E2-BCF8-4F7B-94E6-55F507D0D073@france-codepostal.fr> <3e5572520707050349j55e0cdd0g3769d9d40387d918@mail.gmail.com> <468D895C.2060606@compuserve.com> <468EDC4A.20203@voidspace.org.uk> Message-ID: <468F9346.3010702@timgolden.me.uk> Michael Foord wrote: > Thanks to you, Pete and Tim for organising the talk. It was *great* to > see so many people attend - a very pleasant surprise. I think we were all surprised as well! (A pleasant sort of surprise, but see below). Thanks to you and any other UK Pythoneers who made it as well. Michael G's actually been the one negotiating with the IET people over what might or might not happen, so what I'm saying here about that is informed hearsay. The overall point is we had an original vision (or at least Michael did, which we bought into) of a smallish workshop running in parallel with a larger event which the IET were going to host anyway. We were simply going to run a small group event with the IET's blessing, taking advantage of the fact that the facilities were available. We were originally told that we could have up to 30 people (in the Thomson Room, I think) and I suppose we all worked things up on that basis: an informal workshop-style event where we could each have a script, but develop based on people's questions and limitations. Close to the date, we learnt that the registration had maxed out at 185, and that we would be the sole event, not running in parallel. I think this threw us slightly, and our mistake was in not getting our heads together and talking through with the IET as to how best to make it work - we were still hoping for the workshop feel. As you discovered (at the same time as us) it didn't really work out that way. Personally, I think it was great to have such an audience, I think they by-and-large appreciated some of what we had to say, and at the very worst we'd have been no worse than any other IET lecture where you can't please all the people... All this is perhaps an overanalysis but perhaps it might be of use to anyone else thinking on similar lines in the future. personally I think one real plus point was that 180+ people were prepared to give it a go. I don't know if the IET will be sympathetic to further Python events, but this one wasn't a failure. > I think that for the audience a complete novices introduction might have > been helpful. I agree with this (and your suggested points are realistic). Really, between Peter, Michael & myself, we let things happen a bit too much rather than making them happen. > Three 20 minute sessions as the first one would work well. I think it's good to keep things tight. As you saw, I had to keep things even tighter, but I had known I'd be the last on and I was prepared to push things through. If we get the chance again, I'd push for the same kind of setup I think. (Including IronPython/Silverlight if so be as your're still willing). > The workshop style session afterwards didn't seem to > happen. [...] I think people need some degree of organisation. Again, I think this was partly our failing to react to the switch from "30 in a room" to "150 in a lecture hall" in time to organise things. Thanks for commenting. Personally, even if the IET don't take us up, I'd be very keen to find a spot perhaps in people's offices afterhours to have short presentations before adjourning to the pub. We'll wait to see what comes back from Savoy Place, but if anyone knows that they might be in a position to host an occasional get-together, let us know. Thanks TJG From o.ekanem at gmail.com Sun Jul 8 01:32:00 2007 From: o.ekanem at gmail.com (Otu Ekanem) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 00:32:00 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] python-uk Digest, Vol 47, Issue 5 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <800c1b0b0707071632y3dc2e8e7vdfd5539f7864367@mail.gmail.com> > * A case study of Python in a particular industry or a particular > application Not sure whom to speak to directly, but if this does happen - I 'd love to volunteer a short session on python's use in the telecommunications industry. I 'd appreciate it if someone could point me at the right person to speak to. -- Otu Ekanem http://rants.ekanem.de -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-uk/attachments/20070708/feb0c6b3/attachment.htm From mail at timgolden.me.uk Sun Jul 8 15:38:12 2007 From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden) Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 14:38:12 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] python-uk Digest, Vol 47, Issue 5 In-Reply-To: <800c1b0b0707071632y3dc2e8e7vdfd5539f7864367@mail.gmail.com> References: <800c1b0b0707071632y3dc2e8e7vdfd5539f7864367@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4690E8C4.9000907@timgolden.me.uk> Otu Ekanem wrote: > > * A case study of Python in a particular industry or a particular > application > > > Not sure whom to speak to directly, but if this does happen - > I 'd love to volunteer a short session on python's use in the > telecommunications industry. > > I 'd appreciate it if someone could point me at the right person to > speak to. I think that, for the moment, that right person would be me. (Not least because I'd hate to see such an offer go unanswered). My plan is to wait to hear from Michael as to whether we're likely to get any leverage at the IET and, if or if not, what we do next. At that point, I'd propose a rough schedule of meetups. Until then, though, please make any offers on this list -- or to me personally if you wish -- and we'll keep the thing open. I hope it may come to something; the more evident interest and support there is, the more likely it will happen. I hope to be at PyConUK in September so if anything seems likely to get underway by way of a London talks series we can touch base there. TJG From mgrazebrook at compuserve.com Mon Jul 9 10:43:13 2007 From: mgrazebrook at compuserve.com (Michael Grazebrook) Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 09:43:13 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] ann: Python at the IET In-Reply-To: <468F9346.3010702@timgolden.me.uk> References: <4688C6B0.1000804@timgolden.me.uk> <468A2EFC.3050709@compuserve.com> <239528E2-BCF8-4F7B-94E6-55F507D0D073@france-codepostal.fr> <3e5572520707050349j55e0cdd0g3769d9d40387d918@mail.gmail.com> <468D895C.2060606@compuserve.com> <468EDC4A.20203@voidspace.org.uk> <468F9346.3010702@timgolden.me.uk> Message-ID: <4691F521.8090108@compuserve.com> Tim - Thanks for the kind words and I agree with what you say. In particular, I felt a little guilty that all those people brought their lap-tops but didn't get to play (though we did get a lot of people to load Python). The large numbers do give us an excuse, and nobody SAD they were disappointed (on the contrary, feedback was positive). Still ... I had an idea on that basis - a web discussion group (such as yahoo, discusson & ability to post files) - such as - Invite the lecture attendees but leave it open - This is a self-help group, though at least one of the speakers is also a member - Our commitment is limited (say two weeks), after which we expect the group to help itself - Write up maybe an exercise each, designed to lead the members through to being able to run and broadly understand one example each of us presented. This might give me the motivation to set up my demo with the web-cam not buzzers, and allow people to provide remote control of the camera, at least for the promised fortnight. Just an idea, and certainly no commitment to do that much work. Regardless, we ought to post our slides. I'll ask Xen how we do that. 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-uk/attachments/20070709/ace04ff8/attachment.htm From fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk Wed Jul 11 18:01:34 2007 From: fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 17:01:34 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] python-uk Digest, Vol 47, Issue 5 In-Reply-To: <4692161F.8010804@compuserve.com> References: <800c1b0b0707071632y3dc2e8e7vdfd5539f7864367@mail.gmail.com> <4692161F.8010804@compuserve.com> Message-ID: <4694FEDE.2070301@voidspace.org.uk> Michael Grazebrook wrote: > [snip..]The IET's pleased to see we brought in a great audience, and > concerned that a python themed series would be too narrow a focus: > their field is the whole realm of engineering. Talks like your > proposal are good as they provide diversity beyond Python. > Hello, Does this mean that another meeting with the same format as the last one is not going to happen? Michael Foord http://www.voidspace.org.uk/ironpython/index.shtml > > Otu Ekanem wrote: >> >> * A case study of Python in a particular industry or a particular >> application >> >> >> Not sure whom to speak to directly, but if this does happen - >> I 'd love to volunteer a short session on python's use in the >> telecommunications industry. >> >> I 'd appreciate it if someone could point me at the right person to >> speak to. >> >> -- >> Otu Ekanem >> >> http://rants.ekanem.de >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> python-uk mailing list >> python-uk at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/884 - Release Date: 02/07/2007 15:35 >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > From mgrazebrook at compuserve.com Wed Jul 11 20:05:56 2007 From: mgrazebrook at compuserve.com (Michael Grazebrook) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 19:05:56 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] python-uk Digest, Vol 47, Issue 5 In-Reply-To: <4694FEDE.2070301@voidspace.org.uk> References: <800c1b0b0707071632y3dc2e8e7vdfd5539f7864367@mail.gmail.com> <4692161F.8010804@compuserve.com> <4694FEDE.2070301@voidspace.org.uk> Message-ID: <46951C04.4080006@compuserve.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-uk/attachments/20070711/78f66774/attachment.html From theology at gmail.com Wed Jul 11 19:15:38 2007 From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth Green) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:15:38 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Python West Midlands, Thursday 12 July, Birmingham Message-ID: Hello Everyone, Our next meeting is held tomorrow night in the the Bull, Price Street, Birmingham, West Midlands, B4 6JU. Wireless access is normally available, as is a large range of pub food and real ale. We will no doubt talk about the PyconUK conference that we are helping to organise, probably we might mention Django, CGI and hear tales from those coming back from Europython. The meeting is open to all. In the unlikely event that you cannot spot us in the pub, ask the landlady for 'John's lot'. For more information respond to this post, visit http://pywm.eu , or email me off-list. Best Wishes, Zeth From pdr at pdr.cx Thu Jul 12 03:39:13 2007 From: pdr at pdr.cx (Pete Ryland) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 02:39:13 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Python West Midlands, Thursday 12 July, Birmingham In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 11/07/07, Zeth Green wrote: > Our next meeting is held tomorrow night in the the Bull, Price Street, > Birmingham, West Midlands, B4 6JU. Wireless access is normally > available, as is a large range of pub food and real ale. What time will you be there? I'll likely be passing through Birmingham tomorrow at around 5-ish, but can only stay around for one or two. Pete From fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk Thu Jul 12 21:07:23 2007 From: fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:07:23 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] python-uk Digest, Vol 47, Issue 5 In-Reply-To: <46951C04.4080006@compuserve.com> References: <800c1b0b0707071632y3dc2e8e7vdfd5539f7864367@mail.gmail.com> <4692161F.8010804@compuserve.com> <4694FEDE.2070301@voidspace.org.uk> <46951C04.4080006@compuserve.com> Message-ID: <46967BEB.6090904@voidspace.org.uk> Michael Grazebrook wrote: > It's up to us in consultation with the IET to propose the format. What > we delivered was not in the format we'd originally planned - we'd > intended to deliver to an audience of about 30 with a much more > tutorial aspect - so clearly both formats are possible. Ok - cool. I was worried that they had ruled out a second talk. Michael > > > Michael Foord wrote: >> >> Michael Grazebrook wrote: >> >>> [snip..]The IET's pleased to see we brought in a great audience, and >>> concerned that a python themed series would be too narrow a focus: >>> their field is the whole realm of engineering. Talks like your >>> proposal are good as they provide diversity beyond Python. >>> >>> >> >> Hello, >> >> Does this mean that another meeting with the same format as the last one >> is not going to happen? >> >> Michael Foord >> http://www.voidspace.org.uk/ironpython/index.shtml >> >> >>> Otu Ekanem wrote: >>> >>>> * A case study of Python in a particular industry or a particular >>>> application >>>> >>>> >>>> Not sure whom to speak to directly, but if this does happen - >>>> I 'd love to volunteer a short session on python's use in the >>>> telecommunications industry. >>>> >>>> I 'd appreciate it if someone could point me at the right person to >>>> speak to. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Otu Ekanem >>>> >>>> http://rants.ekanem.de >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> python-uk mailing list >>>> python-uk at python.org >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>> Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/884 - Release Date: 02/07/2007 15:35 >>>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> python-uk mailing list >>> python-uk at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> python-uk mailing list >> python-uk at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk >> >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > From simon at brunningonline.net Tue Jul 17 14:48:40 2007 From: simon at brunningonline.net (Simon Brunning) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:48:40 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] London Python meetup, Tuesday the 31st. Message-ID: <8c7f10c60707170548o66f6103aw6209ed422e00ef28@mail.gmail.com> See http://tinyurl.com/2m7ahw for details, such as they are. -- Cheers, Simon B. simon at brunningonline.net http://www.brunningonline.net/simon/blog/ GTalk: simon.brunning | MSN: small_values | Yahoo: smallvalues From fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk Tue Jul 17 14:53:55 2007 From: fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk (Fuzzyman) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:53:55 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] London Python meetup, Tuesday the 31st. In-Reply-To: <8c7f10c60707170548o66f6103aw6209ed422e00ef28@mail.gmail.com> References: <8c7f10c60707170548o66f6103aw6209ed422e00ef28@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <469CBBE3.6030907@voidspace.org.uk> Simon Brunning wrote: >See http://tinyurl.com/2m7ahw for details, such as they are. > > > You back in the country Simon? Michael From simon at brunningonline.net Tue Jul 17 17:15:15 2007 From: simon at brunningonline.net (Simon Brunning) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:15:15 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] London Python meetup, Tuesday the 31st. In-Reply-To: <469CBBE3.6030907@voidspace.org.uk> References: <8c7f10c60707170548o66f6103aw6209ed422e00ef28@mail.gmail.com> <469CBBE3.6030907@voidspace.org.uk> Message-ID: <8c7f10c60707170815i74108831m5a14b771ba4ba281@mail.gmail.com> On 7/17/07, Fuzzyman wrote: > You back in the country Simon? For a while, yes. -- Cheers, Simon B. simon at brunningonline.net http://www.brunningonline.net/simon/blog/ GTalk: simon.brunning | MSN: small_values | Yahoo: smallvalue From ben at moreassociates.com Wed Jul 18 00:35:37 2007 From: ben at moreassociates.com (Ben Pirt) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 23:35:37 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Python web developer needed (London) Message-ID: All, I hope you don't mind me spamming the list with a job posting. I am the technical director of a company called More Associates. We are a design company who currently work at the Angel in London. Most of our work is in the sustainable sector and is very varied, ranging from custom installations to interaction design and web development. We are looking for talented, driven and, above all, creative developers who would be involved from the very start of a new project and would help shape the architecture and direction it will take, working with other developers and designers to create a world-class, world- changing web application. A high level of expertise in Python is essential and the ability to code well on the client-side is also needed (XHTML, CSS, Javascript / DOM / AJAX). Being able to work in a team is also a must. We have a full-time position becoming available and we feel that it is important that the person who fills this role is based in the office because we value the team dynamic this allows - we are not interested in hiring a freelancer or a telecommuter at this point - if you're not London based you'll need to be willing to commute. If this sounds interesting to you, please email me off list (I don't want to clog up everyone's mailboxes with the replies) so that we can discuss it further and hopefully meet up. I'll be going to the London meetup on the 31st so if anyone wants to talk more about this over a beer that's fine with me :-) All the best, Ben Pirt From graham at grahamcarlyle.com Wed Jul 18 11:25:23 2007 From: graham at grahamcarlyle.com (Graham Carlyle) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:25:23 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Looking to recruit experienced developer, Bath Message-ID: <1184750723.8093.13.camel@charon> Hello All My company is looking to recruit a experienced software developer. We use Python as our preferred development language. Most of our work is web based, some of our newer stuff is using Django. We're based in central-ish Bath. We have a company dog (well actually its the bosses but it sometimes manages to sneak into the office). We often "hack" with a hackey sack at lunch time. The advert we posted on the python jobs website is included below... To apply email your CV to this address: recruitment at maplecroft.net cheers, Graham -- Maplecroft.NET (Bath, UK) Posted 15-Jul-2007 Job Description: Maplecroft was founded in 2001 to provide strategic corporate responsibility advisory services and global business risk management. We are a close-knit team of specialists, committed to providing rigorously researched information and communicating it in interactive, creative ways. We are looking for two more developers to join our growing Software team. The team is responsible for Maplecroft's IT infrastructure, including: * managing and developing existing services such as Maplecroft Maps, Ethical Insight and Global Risks * prototyping, developing and deploying new services and applications * investigating new technologies for future use * developing the data-gathering tools and research database behind all of Maplecroft's services We welcome applications from individuals with significant experience in software / systems development. In particular: * web application development (server-side and client-side) * subscription management, authentication * content management * Internet security and resilience * databases Any experience with our current technologies - Apache, MySQL, XML, Python, Flash/Flex, GIS, Zope/Plone - would be advantageous, as would any Linux/Unix system administration experience. You will be joining a small, enthusiastic team working in a fast-moving, customer-driven environment. Flexibility and the ability to innovate are essential, as is the ability to communicate effectively. What Python is used for: server-side scripting (mod_python, Django), data formatting and processing, CMS (Plone) * Contact: Recruitment * E-mail contact: recruitment at maplecroft.net * Web: http://www.maplecroft.com From pyuk at france-codepostal.fr Sun Jul 22 16:25:51 2007 From: pyuk at france-codepostal.fr (richard barran) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 15:25:51 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] London Python meetup, Tuesday the 31st. In-Reply-To: <8c7f10c60707170548o66f6103aw6209ed422e00ef28@mail.gmail.com> References: <8c7f10c60707170548o66f6103aw6209ed422e00ef28@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7D8D1C5E-9B4F-4713-9FC9-7923D4C61127@france-codepostal.fr> On 17/7/07, at 13:48, Simon Brunning wrote: > See http://tinyurl.com/2m7ahw for details, such as they are. > Hi, Thinking of coming along, but got a couple of questions: 1. What time does it start? 2. I've never been before, so how will I recognize people? :-) Cheers, Richard From menno at freshfoo.com Mon Jul 23 13:00:25 2007 From: menno at freshfoo.com (Menno Smits) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 12:00:25 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] London Python meetup, Tuesday the 31st. In-Reply-To: <7D8D1C5E-9B4F-4713-9FC9-7923D4C61127@france-codepostal.fr> References: <8c7f10c60707170548o66f6103aw6209ed422e00ef28@mail.gmail.com> <7D8D1C5E-9B4F-4713-9FC9-7923D4C61127@france-codepostal.fr> Message-ID: <46A48A49.9060904@freshfoo.com> richard barran wrote: > On 17/7/07, at 13:48, Simon Brunning wrote: > >> See http://tinyurl.com/2m7ahw for details, such as they are. >> > > Hi, > > Thinking of coming along, but got a couple of questions: > 1. What time does it start? Someone is often there by around 6pm. There's always people around by 7pm. > 2. I've never been before, so how will I recognize people? :-) Look for: - a table with a couple of Python books and/or a can of spam on it - the only people not watching sport on the TV (if any) - the only people with a laptop out in the pub :) Menno From D.Kirby at tideway.com Tue Jul 24 12:15:56 2007 From: D.Kirby at tideway.com (Dave Kirby) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:15:56 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] London Python meetup, Tuesday the 31st. (Menno Smits) References: Message-ID: Menno Smits said: > > Look for: > - a table with a couple of Python books and/or a can of spam on it > - the only people not watching sport on the TV (if any) > - the only people with a laptop out in the pub > The OBOE does not have a sports TV, and the Extreme Tuesday Club will be meeting there at the same time so we will probably not be the only people with laptops. I suggest asking anyone who looks geeky. Dave This email and any attachment may contain confidential, privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, do not disclose, reproduce, disseminate or otherwise use this communication. If you received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender via email and delete the communication from your system. Company information : Tideway Systems Ltd, Registered Office: Anchor House, 15-19 Britten Street, London, SW3 3TY. Registered in England & Wales Reg. Reg. No: 4598072 VAT No: 805 5153 50 From fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk Mon Jul 30 17:17:55 2007 From: fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 16:17:55 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Wednesday Evening Meet Message-ID: <46AE0123.4010303@voidspace.org.uk> Hello all, I have an American friend who is a keen Python programmer on a visit to London on Wednesday. Anyone fancy meeting up for a drink? Michael Foord http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/weblog/ From fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk Mon Jul 30 17:30:14 2007 From: fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 16:30:14 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Wednesday Evening Meet Message-ID: <46AE0406.2040306@voidspace.org.uk> I guess the venue would be the Old Bank of England unless someone has a better idea for a venue. We will be there at about 6.30pm. http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/66/660/ Michael -- Hello all, I have an American friend who is a keen Python programmer on a visit to London on Wednesday. Anyone fancy meeting up for a drink? Michael Foord http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/weblog/