From kcss at mywhitehall.com Tue Jan 2 02:21:35 2007
From: kcss at mywhitehall.com (aimlessly)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 09:21:35 +0800
Subject: [python-uk] explanation manhunt
Message-ID: <000a01c72e0c$aa14bec0$b770813a@zsjekp>
The server returns a response, which is then presented to the user courtesy of more JavaScript code.
I think I was dreaming.
For example,Introduction to AJAX : TS-4489 by Dion Almaer and Ben Galbraith.
at the Tokyo Institute of Technology. Meeting the Demand for Interactive, Dynamic Web ApplicationsWe're all familiar with using the traditional web application: Fillin some data, click a button, and then wait for something to happen.
Although some scripting languages are compiled, most languages are interpreted.
Did you know that jMaki is integrated with NetBeans and works with Phobos, JSF, and JSP? This course is designed for those who want to use the Sun Java Studio Creator 2 as a RAD tool to develop web applications without going into technical details.
The Phobos project allows you to develop web applications using a scripting language, which can allow for more rapid development.
"It's such a beautiful machine," says Matsuoka.
Perhaps most importantly to the AJAX developer, itsupports the XMLHttpRequest mechanism so thatyou don't need to deal with it yourself in your JavaScript. All the latest JavaScript tools and resources are available in the Show Notes, including technical articles, interviews, blogs, downloads and much more. Use the project home page?
Smackdown for AJAX Programming Models and Frameworks : TS-2991 with representatives from DOJO, Flex, Swing, and JSF. The CometContext is the main object a component will use to interact with others Comet requests, implemented as CometHandler. The event will feature 2 tutorial days followed by three full conference days with 12 tracks. Some prime examples of Web 2. To shield applications from this incompatibility obstacle, the File class defines platform-independent methods for manipulating a file maintained by a native filing system.
Portlets, servlets and JSPs may share information through their session. All you need to run an Ajaxapplication is a browser that supports JavaScript technology, as mostbrowsers in use today do. You can continue to use scripting languages for all the reasons you already have, and you can use the powerful Java class library to extend the abilities of those languages.
JavaScript libraries such as Dojo,Prototype, and the Yahoo User Interface Libraryhave emerged to fill in where the browsers are not as manageable and to provide a standardized programming model.
You also get JavaServerFaces technology 1.
More updates are sure to occur as the need arises.
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From ms at cerenity.org Tue Jan 2 15:58:08 2007
From: ms at cerenity.org (Michael Sparks)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 14:58:08 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] Next Manchester Geekup, January 9th 2007
Message-ID: <200701021458.08669.ms@cerenity.org>
Hi,
Just a reminder that the next Manchester Geekup is next Tuesday on January
9th. I'm going to these regularly now, rather than organise a separate python
meet - fellow pythonistas would be welcome :)
URL: http://geekup.org/
WHERE: B-Lounge, Piccadilly, Manchester M1 2DB
(down the ramp from Piccadilly train station)
WHEN: People tend to arrive after 6, with talks (given volunteers :-) at
7pm (format of talks is generally either lightning talk or PechaKucha
style)
... Also, you are all cordially invited to come along to see me performing on
stage in The Mikado at the Royal Northern College of Music (in the chorus :)
with MUGSS, ... in the style of Bollywood in mid-February for modest insults
starting at 5GBP. For more information see here:
* http://www.mugss.org/show/
* http://www.mugss.org/show/tickets/
Happy New Year to everyone :)
Michael
--
Kamaelia Project Lead
http://kamaelia.sourceforge.net/Home
http://yeoldeclue.com/blog
From simon at brunningonline.net Wed Jan 3 11:49:44 2007
From: simon at brunningonline.net (Simon Brunning)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 10:49:44 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] London Python Meetup, Tuesday January the 16th
Message-ID: <8c7f10c60701030249v5e7b0206h6c7865c19ebbc097@mail.gmail.com>
Details here:
--
Cheers,
Simon B
simon at brunningonline.net
From fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk Wed Jan 3 14:46:53 2007
From: fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord)
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 13:46:53 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] London Python Meetup, Tuesday January the 16th
In-Reply-To: <8c7f10c60701030249v5e7b0206h6c7865c19ebbc097@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8c7f10c60701030249v5e7b0206h6c7865c19ebbc097@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <459BB3CD.6090605@voidspace.org.uk>
Simon Brunning wrote:
> Details here:
>
>
Bah, Tuesday. I can't make it. :-(
Fuzzyman
http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/articles.shtml
From simon at brunningonline.net Wed Jan 3 15:30:28 2007
From: simon at brunningonline.net (Simon Brunning)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 14:30:28 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] London Python Meetup, Tuesday January the 16th
In-Reply-To: <459BB3CD.6090605@voidspace.org.uk>
References: <8c7f10c60701030249v5e7b0206h6c7865c19ebbc097@mail.gmail.com>
<459BB3CD.6090605@voidspace.org.uk>
Message-ID: <8c7f10c60701030630vcd0b271seca982dc13386b57@mail.gmail.com>
On 1/3/07, Michael Foord wrote:
> Bah, Tuesday. I can't make it. :-(
Humph. Every day seems to be bad for someone. :-( I'll make it a
different day next time.
--
Cheers,
Simon B
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From jobs at alertme.com Mon Jan 8 15:33:17 2007
From: jobs at alertme.com (Jobs)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 14:33:17 -0000
Subject: [python-uk] Contract Python apps development on embedded Linux
Message-ID: <012f01c73331$efe031d0$0600a8c0@Pilgrim>
There is a Python applications contract position open in our company, and
Les Smithson thought the members of this list might be interested in it.
Our company is still in "stealth" mode, so you won't find any information
about it on the Web, but if you're interested and a good fit then please do
get in touch.
Thanks,
-Pilgrim Beart
AlertMe.com Ltd.
01223 361555
Embedded Linux application programmer (contract - 3 months initially)
Role
Implementing an application, primarily in Python, on embedded ARM Linux. The
application supervises an embedded wireless network and communicates with a
Web 2.0 server, maintaining and controlling state, and executing
user-defined rules. Ability to plan and execute from rough specifications
with tight timescales is essential.
Key responsibilities
* Embedded ARM Linux application development - robust, modular,
extensible
Minimum requirements
* Good computer science degree
* 10 years' experience designing commercial quality embedded
application software in a high-level language
* 5 years' experience on *nix platforms
* Experience of source control and an 'open', peer-review style of
working
* Articulate and good team player
Ideal experience
* ARM Linux
* Python
* Network security
* Server-side database interfacing
About the company
''AlertMe.com is developing a Web2.0 internet appliance architecture. The
first service, Home Awareness, protects customers' homes, families, and
belongings by alerting them to unauthorized entry or fire in a variety of
ways, giving personalized solutions at a fraction of the cost of
conventional systems. Founded by Adrian Critchlow and Pilgrim Beart, both
Cambridge-based serial entrepreneurs, AlertMe.com promises to be a classic
fast-growth Cambridge start-up.'
Contact
jobs
alertme.com
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From andy at reportlab.com Mon Jan 8 18:12:02 2007
From: andy at reportlab.com (Andy Robinson)
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 17:12:02 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] List now limited to subscribers...
Message-ID: <45A27B62.8010005@reportlab.com>
I changed the list settings to restrict posting to members only.
Hopefully Mr. BCS Outdoor will no longer be able to mail us his new
address a few dozen times. We'll see in a minute or so ;-)
This is very strange as I thought I had set it this way years ago.
Would anyone else be willing to be a list admin too? I am often away or
too busy, and it might be a good idea if there were a couple of others.
Best Regards,
--
Andy Robinson
CEO/Chief Architect
ReportLab Europe Ltd.
165 The Broadway, London SW 19 1NE, Unite Kingdom
tel +44-20-8544-8049
From simon at brunningonline.net Mon Jan 8 18:15:55 2007
From: simon at brunningonline.net (Simon Brunning)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 17:15:55 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] List now limited to subscribers...
In-Reply-To: <45A27B62.8010005@reportlab.com>
References: <45A27B62.8010005@reportlab.com>
Message-ID: <8c7f10c60701080915v3bb14b09u454ace41b6401693@mail.gmail.com>
On 1/8/07, Andy Robinson wrote:
> Would anyone else be willing to be a list admin too? I am often away or
> too busy, and it might be a good idea if there were a couple of others.
I'm game.
--
Cheers,
Simon B
simon at brunningonline.net
http://www.brunningonline.net/simon/blog/
From andy at reportlab.com Mon Jan 8 18:35:45 2007
From: andy at reportlab.com (Andy Robinson)
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 17:35:45 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] List now limited to subscribers...
In-Reply-To: <8c7f10c60701080915v3bb14b09u454ace41b6401693@mail.gmail.com>
References: <45A27B62.8010005@reportlab.com>
<8c7f10c60701080915v3bb14b09u454ace41b6401693@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <45A280F1.6010606@reportlab.com>
Simon Brunning wrote:
>
> I'm game.
>
Thanks Simon, you're now an admin ;-)
--
Andy Robinson
From mail at timgolden.me.uk Mon Jan 8 17:41:46 2007
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 16:41:46 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] Many apologies...
Message-ID: <45A2744A.4020108@timgolden.me.uk>
My many apologies to the denizens of the
python-uk mailing list. I went on leave just
as my company changed name, and I didn't
realize they were going to send out an
irritating reply to any incoming emails.
I've unsubscribed from that address now,
so sorry again for blighting your New Year
with a rash of unsightly HTML mails!
TJG
(Now I've got to do the same for all
the *other* mailing lists I forgot to
suspend before going away for a week!)
From andy at reportlab.com Mon Jan 8 21:26:58 2007
From: andy at reportlab.com (Andy Robinson)
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 20:26:58 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] Many apologies...
In-Reply-To: <45A2744A.4020108@timgolden.me.uk>
References: <45A2744A.4020108@timgolden.me.uk>
Message-ID: <45A2A912.4020905@reportlab.com>
Tim Golden wrote:
> My many apologies to the denizens of the
> python-uk mailing list. I went on leave just
> as my company changed name, and I didn't
> realize they were going to send out an
> irritating reply to any incoming emails.
>
> I've unsubscribed from that address now,
> so sorry again for blighting your New Year
> with a rash of unsightly HTML mails!
>
No worries - at least we had double-digit traffic for a brief while ;-)
- Andy
From simon at brunningonline.net Mon Jan 15 14:35:50 2007
From: simon at brunningonline.net (Simon Brunning)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 13:35:50 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] Reminder - London Python meetup tomorrow
Message-ID: <8c7f10c60701150535oe11478eqbb848286d9974ada@mail.gmail.com>
Details here:
--
Cheers,
Simon B
simon at brunningonline.net
From theology at gmail.com Mon Jan 22 21:35:05 2007
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth Green)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:35:05 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] Python West Midlands User Group
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
Hello Everyone,
We will be holding the first ever meeting on Friday 2nd February 2007,
as an informal evening where we can meet each other and discuss the
future of the group.
We are meeting in a reserved room at a Birmingham pub/restaurant
called the Bull. Most of us are planning to eat together (but this is
not compulsory). The Bull was founded in 1729, cooks fresh food, has a
fine collection of Real Ale and even Wireless Internet. We are
planning to start the group at 7.30pm, (I personally will be ordering
my food on the dot as I will be very hungry by then ; ).
The Bull is in Price Street, B4 6JU, it is on the corner of Price
Street and Loveday Street in the centre of the historic Gun Quarter,
near the Central Fire Station and Aston Uni. Buses 33, 51 and 52 stop
at the end of Price Street. The nearest rail station is Snow Hill. If
you are coming from out of town on public transport then email the
PyWM Mailing List and let us know ASAP and we can arrange to collect
you from New Street Rail Station.
For more details visit:
http://pywm.eu/pug/Meetings
On 27/11/06, Zeth Green wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> Did you know the West Midlands is the home of Shakespeare, the steam
> engine, J.R.R. Tolkien and the Spaghetti Junction?
>
> It is now also home to the Python West Midlands User Group. Only three
> days old, we already have two dozen members.
>
> The Python West Midlands User Group aims to provide community and
> discussion for Python users and to new-users who want to find out more
> about the language.
>
> Without further ado:
> You can find the website here: http://pywm.eu
> And the mailing list here: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/pywm
>
> Best Wishes,
> Zeth
>
From eeaston at gmail.com Wed Jan 24 14:41:53 2007
From: eeaston at gmail.com (Ed Easton)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:41:53 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] Hello everyone
Message-ID: <6E84E133-E08A-4CD9-A195-FCAB86D25A5D@gmail.com>
Hi everyone - I've just joined this list.
My name is Ed, I'm a unix developer from Sydney, Australia not long
off the boat and living in London. I've been working with python on
electronic funds transfer systems for the past three years or so, and
am looking for contract work in or around London. EFT work seems to
be a bit thin on the ground apart from protocol testing - does anyone
have any pointers for people looking for python development work in
London?
Thanks in advance,
-Ed.
From newtopython at gmail.com Sun Jan 28 23:45:29 2007
From: newtopython at gmail.com (Python Freak)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 17:45:29 -0500
Subject: [python-uk] Help Please
Message-ID:
Hi,
This may be too elementary for most of you, but could you please help me
with the following question? I would like to use comprehensive lists and
lists of lists. Where do I start?
Question:
Consider a digraph with 10 vertices, labeled 1 through 10. You are given the
following adjacency list representation, where we first list the vertices
adjacent to vertex 1, and so on.
1*; *2; 2*; *3; 3*; *4; 4*; *5; 5*; *6; 6*; *7; 7*; *8; 8*; *9; 9*; *10; 10.
a) Write code to turn the adjacency list into an incidence list and an an
adjacency matrix.
b) Write code to turn the incidence list into an adjacency matrix.
Hint: You may find it useful to note that one incidence list representation
is (1*; *1), (2*; *2), (3*; *3), (4*; *4), (5*; *5),(6*; *6), (7*; *7), (8*;
*8), (9*; *9), (10*; *10), (1*; *2), (2*; *3), (3*; *4), (4*; *5), (5*; *6),
(6*; *7), (7*; *8), (8*; *9), (9*; *10).
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From ms at cerenity.org Mon Jan 29 01:00:39 2007
From: ms at cerenity.org (Michael Sparks)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 00:00:39 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] Help Please
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <200701290000.40253.ms@cerenity.org>
On Sunday 28 January 2007 22:45, Python Freak wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This may be too elementary for most of you, but could you please help me
> with the following question? I would like to use comprehensive lists and
> lists of lists. Where do I start?
>
> Question:
>
> Consider a digraph with 10 vertices,
[snip]
Is this homework? If so, no problem, but personally I change the way I respond
to homework questions as opposed to other things :-)
If it is, consider this:
>>> [(x,y) for x in range(y) for y in range(9) ]
[(0, 0), (0, 1), (0, 2), (0, 3), (0, 4), (0, 5), (0, 6), (0, 7), (0, 8),
(1, 0), (1, 1), (1, 2), (1, 3), (1, 4), (1, 5), (1, 6), (1, 7), (1, 8),
(2, 0), (2, 1), (2, 2), (2, 3), (2, 4), (2, 5), (2, 6), (2, 7), (2, 8),
(3, 0), (3, 1), (3, 2), (3, 3), (3, 4), (3, 5), (3, 6), (3, 7), (3, 8),
(4, 0), (4, 1), (4, 2), (4, 3), (4, 4), (4, 5), (4, 6), (4, 7), (4, 8),
(5, 0), (5, 1), (5, 2), (5, 3), (5, 4), (5, 5), (5, 6), (5, 7), (5, 8),
(6, 0), (6, 1), (6, 2), (6, 3), (6, 4), (6, 5), (6, 6), (6, 7), (6, 8),
(7, 0), (7, 1), (7, 2), (7, 3), (7, 4), (7, 5), (7, 6), (7, 7), (7, 8),
(8, 0), (8, 1), (8, 2), (8, 3), (8, 4), (8, 5), (8, 6), (8, 7), (8, 8)]
Do you see what's going on there?
Regards,
Michael.
From theology at gmail.com Mon Jan 29 01:08:28 2007
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth Green)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 00:08:28 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] Help Please
In-Reply-To: <200701290000.40253.ms@cerenity.org>
References:
<200701290000.40253.ms@cerenity.org>
Message-ID:
On 29/01/07, Michael Sparks wrote:
> Is this homework?
I was about to respond with a literal answer but I thought that too.
It was the mathematical terminology but especially this bit that made
me suspect:
> On Sunday 28 January 2007 22:45, Python Freak wrote:
Hint: You may find it useful to note that one incidence list
representation is...
From newtopython at gmail.com Mon Jan 29 01:20:47 2007
From: newtopython at gmail.com (Python Freak)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 19:20:47 -0500
Subject: [python-uk] Help Please
In-Reply-To:
References:
<200701290000.40253.ms@cerenity.org>
Message-ID:
Guys,
The question I posted is taken from an exercise sheet which I will discuss
with my study group -- nothing graded. I am a graduate student trying to
learn Python for some application in microeconomics. As I am new to Python,
I am clueless about where to start. I apologise if this caused any
inconvenience -- I didn't know that you are not allowed to answer problems.
Michael's response definitely helps but I would appreciate a little more
help.
Thanks.
On 1/28/07, Zeth Green wrote:
>
> On 29/01/07, Michael Sparks wrote:
> > Is this homework?
>
> I was about to respond with a literal answer but I thought that too.
> It was the mathematical terminology but especially this bit that made
> me suspect:
>
> > On Sunday 28 January 2007 22:45, Python Freak wrote:
> Hint: You may find it useful to note that one incidence list
> representation is...
> _______________________________________________
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From theology at gmail.com Mon Jan 29 01:37:03 2007
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth Green)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 00:37:03 +0000
Subject: [python-uk] Help Please
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On 29/01/07, Python Freak wrote:
> I am clueless about where to start.
Okay, I did economics for my first degree so we have something in
common! (Although I am not sure my maths ever got that deep). There
are many ways to do what you want. The first step is to mentally
translate what you want to do into Python's data types.
See here for a list of the basic types:
http://docs.python.org/tut/node7.html
Do not forget you can nest data types inside each other, so the most
basic matrix is a set of lists inside a list.
However once you understand what you are trying to do, it would then
be worth downing tools and looking into the numpy module as it has
many mathematical constructs all ready and abstracted for you.
Look at http://numpy.scipy.org/ for hours of fun(?). See for example,
https://networkx.lanl.gov/Reference/networkx.convert-module.html#to_numpy_matrix
From newtopython at gmail.com Mon Jan 29 06:07:22 2007
From: newtopython at gmail.com (Python Freak)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 00:07:22 -0500
Subject: [python-uk] Help Please
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Okay, how about this:
I don't know how to create the adjacency list at the first place! Can you
get me started please? If I start then I can make an attempt to create the
incidence list and the adjacency matrix representation. Here is the question
again:
Consider a digraph with 10 vertices, labeled 1 through 10. You are given the
following adjacency list representation, where we first list the vertices
adjacent to vertex 1, and so on.
1*, *2; 2*, *3; 3*, *4; 4*, *5; 5*, *6; 6*, *7; 7*, *8; 8*, *9; 9*, *10; 10.
a) Write code to turn the adjacency list into an incidence list and an an
adjacency matrix.
b) Write code to turn the incidence list into an adjacency matrix.
On 1/28/07, Zeth Green wrote:
>
> On 29/01/07, Python Freak wrote:
> > I am clueless about where to start.
>
> Okay, I did economics for my first degree so we have something in
> common! (Although I am not sure my maths ever got that deep). There
> are many ways to do what you want. The first step is to mentally
> translate what you want to do into Python's data types.
>
> See here for a list of the basic types:
> http://docs.python.org/tut/node7.html
>
> Do not forget you can nest data types inside each other, so the most
> basic matrix is a set of lists inside a list.
>
> However once you understand what you are trying to do, it would then
> be worth downing tools and looking into the numpy module as it has
> many mathematical constructs all ready and abstracted for you.
>
> Look at http://numpy.scipy.org/ for hours of fun(?). See for example,
>
> https://networkx.lanl.gov/Reference/networkx.convert-module.html#to_numpy_matrix
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From newtopython at gmail.com Mon Jan 29 19:09:51 2007
From: newtopython at gmail.com (Python Freak)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 13:09:51 -0500
Subject: [python-uk] Help Please
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Okay I finally got the adjancency list representation working:
v = range(1,11)
al=zip(v[:-1],v[1:])+[(10,)]
Is that right? It works fine.
How do I go from here to creating an incidence list representation and
adjacency matrix? (is it possible to assign to individual items in each
tuple? I guess not).
[ for those of you who missed my earlier email, this is not a homework; i'm
a graduate student attempting to learn python ].
On 1/28/07, Zeth Green wrote:
>
> On 29/01/07, Michael Sparks wrote:
> > Is this homework?
>
> I was about to respond with a literal answer but I thought that too.
> It was the mathematical terminology but especially this bit that made
> me suspect:
>
> > On Sunday 28 January 2007 22:45, Python Freak wrote:
> Hint: You may find it useful to note that one incidence list
> representation is...
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