From python-uk@python.org Mon Mar 3 14:24:12 2003 From: python-uk@python.org (Robert Akoki.) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 17:24:12 +0300 Subject: [python-uk] Conference registration and request for official invitation letter. Message-ID: Dear Sir/Madam, I wouldlike to request you to register me for your April 2-3, 2003: Python UK Conference 2003 (Oxford, UK)Incase registration fee is needed I kindly request to pay after getting the Visa.This is so because my Country-Uganda is not Visa-free. Secondly,I kindly request for an attachment of official invitation letter. Hope to hear from you soon. Kind regards, Akoki Robert, Orphan International Ltd. Tel:256-77-669598, Fax:256-260380, P.o Box 26240, Kampala, Uganda, East Africa. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From python-uk@python.org Wed Mar 5 16:36:33 2003 From: python-uk@python.org (=?iso-8859-1?q?Tim=20Couper?=) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 16:36:33 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [python-uk] Conference registration and request for official invitation letter. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030305163633.81932.qmail@web41110.mail.yahoo.com> Dar Robert Thank you for your interest in the Python UK conference. The organisers of the conference tell me that they are only able to send out confirmation of attendance to the conference on receipt of fees. As an aside, in what ways do you use python in your organisation? You may want to respond off-list. Tim Python 2003 UK Conference Co-ordinator --- "Robert Akoki." wrote: > Dear Sir/Madam, > I wouldlike to request you to register me for your > April 2-3, 2003: Python > UK Conference 2003 (Oxford, UK)Incase registration > fee is needed I kindly > request to pay after getting the Visa.This is so > because my Country-Uganda > is not Visa-free. > > Secondly,I kindly request for an attachment of > official invitation letter. > Hope to hear from you soon. > Kind regards, > Akoki Robert, > Orphan International Ltd. > Tel:256-77-669598, > Fax:256-260380, > P.o Box 26240, > Kampala, > Uganda, > East Africa. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months > FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Thanks, Dafydd Rees ---- Dr. Dafydd Rees tel: +44 7968 486 880 www.dafydd.net From python-uk@python.org Sat Mar 8 11:06:56 2003 From: python-uk@python.org (Andy Todd) Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 11:06:56 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python UK Conference 2003 In-Reply-To: <000a01c2e4ff$929e3370$974cdec2@RUBBERDUCK> References: <000a01c2e4ff$929e3370$974cdec2@RUBBERDUCK> Message-ID: On Friday 07 March 2003 11:16 pm, dafydd.net wrote: > Hello, > I'm interested in attending the Python UK conference held in Oxford. I > wonder > if you could send me more information about it. > > In particular, I'd like to know: > > - Where can I find the programme for the conference? > - Where do I register and how much would it cost? > - Is accomodiation provided in the registration fee or is it available with > registration? > > Thanks, > Dafydd Rees > ---- > Dr. Dafydd Rees > tel: +44 7968 486 880 > www.dafydd.net > All of the information you require is on the following two web sites; http://www.python-uk.org/ http://www.accuconference.co.uk/ Regards, Andy -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >From the desk of Andrew J Todd esq - http://www.halfcooked.com From python-uk@python.org Mon Mar 10 07:31:00 2003 From: python-uk@python.org (Andy Robinson) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 07:31:00 -0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python UK Conference 2003 In-Reply-To: <000a01c2e4ff$929e3370$974cdec2@RUBBERDUCK> Message-ID: > Hello, > I'm interested in attending the Python UK conference held in Oxford. I > wonder > if you could send me more information about it. > > In particular, I'd like to know: > > - Where can I find the programme for the conference? > - Where do I register and how much would it cost? > - Is accomodiation provided in the registration fee or is it > available with > registration? > > Thanks, > Dafydd Rees Dafydd, All the information is at www.accuconference.co.uk, from the links on the top title bar. - Andy Robinson From python-uk@python.org Mon Mar 10 11:12:12 2003 From: python-uk@python.org (P Brian) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:12:12 -0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python UK Conference 2003 References: <000a01c2e4ff$929e3370$974cdec2@RUBBERDUCK> Message-ID: <004e01c2e6f5$e7262d10$d51286d9@test1> Dear Dafydd, The programme and details on registration can be found at www.python-uk.org and the registration depends on your status - accu member, student or "civilian". It works out cheaper to join the accu and then register (as usual in these things) Accomodation is not included, but I beleive the rates with the holiday inn are special concession. All details are on this page http://www.accuconference.co.uk/registration2003.asp cheers Hope to see you there ----- Original Message ----- From: "dafydd.net" < To: Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 11:16 PM Subject: [python-uk] Python UK Conference 2003 > Hello, > I'm interested in attending the Python UK conference held in Oxford. I > wonder > if you could send me more information about it. > > In particular, I'd like to know: > > - Where can I find the programme for the conference? > - Where do I register and how much would it cost? > - Is accomodiation provided in the registration fee or is it available with > registration? > > Thanks, > Dafydd Rees > ---- > Dr. Dafydd Rees > tel: +44 7968 486 880 > www.dafydd.net > > > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk From python-uk@python.org Mon Mar 10 11:13:16 2003 From: python-uk@python.org (P Brian) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:13:16 -0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python UK Conference 2003 References: <000a01c2e4ff$929e3370$974cdec2@RUBBERDUCK> Message-ID: <005801c2e6f6$0cb05060$d51286d9@test1> Sorry Andy, I should read my mail in reverse order after long weekends! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Todd" To: "dafydd.net" Cc: Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [python-uk] Python UK Conference 2003 > On Friday 07 March 2003 11:16 pm, dafydd.net wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm interested in attending the Python UK conference held in Oxford. I > > wonder > > if you could send me more information about it. > > > > In particular, I'd like to know: > > > > - Where can I find the programme for the conference? > > - Where do I register and how much would it cost? > > - Is accomodiation provided in the registration fee or is it available with > > registration? > > > > Thanks, > > Dafydd Rees > > ---- > > Dr. Dafydd Rees > > tel: +44 7968 486 880 > > www.dafydd.net > > > > > All of the information you require is on the following two web sites; > http://www.python-uk.org/ > http://www.accuconference.co.uk/ > > Regards, > Andy > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > From the desk of Andrew J Todd esq - http://www.halfcooked.com > > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk From python-uk@python.org Wed Mar 12 10:35:54 2003 From: python-uk@python.org (Richard Revill) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:35:54 -0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python UK Conference 2003 Message-ID: <000001c2e883$2937d580$3502a8c0@PALMERSTON> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2E883.2937D580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Am interested in the above event - could you pleases forward me details? 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------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2E883.2937D580-- From python-uk@python.org Wed Mar 12 12:27:35 2003 From: python-uk@python.org (P Brian) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 12:27:35 -0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python UK Conference 2003 References: <000001c2e883$2937d580$3502a8c0@PALMERSTON> Message-ID: <001c01c2e892$c5d0a610$1e2486d9@test1> Dear Richard, Please visit www.python-uk.org for details, however in brief: Python Uk Conference, speakers include language founder, Guido van Rossum and is held parallel to ACCU conference. It is based in Oxford and runs over 2 days 2md and 3rd April Lots of interesting people, interesting talks and plenty of fun and socialising cheers ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Revill" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:35 AM Subject: [python-uk] Python UK Conference 2003 > Hi, > > Am interested in the above event - could you pleases forward me details? > > Many thanks > > Richard Revill > Ashecastle LLP > > Ashecastle LLP is regulated by the FSA > > > From python-uk@python.org Tue Mar 18 12:55:55 2003 From: python-uk@python.org (John Precedo) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 12:55:55 -0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python UK conference Wikki up Message-ID: A basic Wikki Wikki is up for the UK Python Conference at http://server.reportlab.com/accu-2003/moin.cgi/FrontPage. Could anyone who will be attending the conference please add their name to the Attendees page? This will be the place to discuss travel arrangements, sort out lifts and ride shares etc. We also plan to have organisation of the various short talks here. And of course since it is a Wikki, if you think of something else that should be included you can add it yourself. -- John Precedo (johnp@reportlab.com) Developer Reportlab Europe Ltd (http://www.reportlab.com) From python-uk@python.org Thu Mar 20 15:45:45 2003 From: python-uk@python.org (John Precedo) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 15:45:45 -0000 Subject: [python-uk] Conference marketing Message-ID: Ok, this is a summary of some marketing type stuff we've done for the conference in the last few days: We've put up a Wiki to support the conference (http://server.reportlab.com/accu-2003/moin.cgi/) and announcements went out to c.l.p, the europython mailing lists about this (and this list), as well as about the 'getting to the conference on a budget' posting. I also made sure that both the main site and the Wiki were registered with google, Alta Vista, Lycos etc. Oh, and I emailed daily@pythonware.com to try and get a mention on the Daily Python URL. Since I wasn't sure what else we could do to publicise the conference, I asked on the marketing-python list about where to market a Python conference. They have suggested the following: * Zope lists - post to zope-announce, at least. * Slashdot * linuxpr.com * emailing an announcement to Stephan Deibel [sdeibel@wingide.com]: > If you email me an announcement appropriate for release to the press, I > can send it out to I mailing list that I maintain. It's mostly US press > people, but it's still worth doing as it at least represents more > instances of the word "Python" popping up for the media to see. Does anyone want to take over any of these, or should I go ahead and do it myself? If it's the second one, does anyone have a pointer to the full announcement that went out to c.l.p etc. I tried googling for it, but couldn't find it. This way I could add a link to the Wiki to the end and send it off. Also, has anyone written an actual 'Press Release' that could be forwarded to Stephan, or would it just be another version of the announcement? -- John Precedo (johnp@reportlab.com) Developer Reportlab Europe Ltd (http://www.reportlab.com) From python-uk@python.org Thu Mar 20 15:52:33 2003 From: python-uk@python.org (John Precedo) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 15:52:33 -0000 Subject: [python-uk] Re: FW: [marketing-python] Where to market a Python Conference? Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: guido@odiug.zope.com [mailto:guido@odiug.zope.com]On Behalf Of > Guido van Rossum > Sent: 20 March 2003 15:29 > To: John Precedo > Subject: Re: [marketing-python] Where to market a Python Conference? > > Did you post to c.l.py.announce? > > --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/) Um... did we? I know I sent the announcement about the Wiki there, but did anyone send the conference announcement there? -- John Precedo (johnp@reportlab.com) Developer Reportlab Europe Ltd (http://www.reportlab.com) From python-uk@python.org Thu Mar 20 20:10:51 2003 From: python-uk@python.org (P Brian) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:10:51 -0000 Subject: [python-uk] Re: FW: [marketing-python] Where to market a Python Conference? References: Message-ID: <003101c2ef1c$ceab22c0$ab1886d9@test1> I do not think so ! - I kind of assumed that it was restricted to python dev work, but since everyone gets the clp anyway, it may matter less. Dunno... ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Precedo" To: Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 3:52 PM Subject: [python-uk] Re: FW: [marketing-python] Where to market a Python Conference? > > -----Original Message----- > > From: guido@odiug.zope.com [mailto:guido@odiug.zope.com]On Behalf Of > > Guido van Rossum > > Sent: 20 March 2003 15:29 > > To: John Precedo > > Subject: Re: [marketing-python] Where to market a Python Conference? > > > > Did you post to c.l.py.announce? > > > > --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/) > > Um... did we? > > I know I sent the announcement about the Wiki there, but did anyone send the > conference announcement there? > > -- > John Precedo (johnp@reportlab.com) Developer > Reportlab Europe Ltd (http://www.reportlab.com) > > > > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk From python-uk@python.org Thu Mar 20 21:18:55 2003 From: python-uk@python.org (Andy Robinson) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 21:18:55 -0000 Subject: [python-uk] Re: FW: [marketing-python] Where to market a Python Conference? In-Reply-To: <003101c2ef1c$ceab22c0$ab1886d9@test1> Message-ID: > I do not think so ! - I kind of assumed that it was restricted to python > dev work, but since everyone gets the clp anyway, it may matter less. > Dunno... > I think we should post it once or twice. Lots of people ran out of time for c.l.p. Can't hurt.... - Andy From python-uk@python.org Fri Mar 21 13:08:00 2003 From: python-uk@python.org (John Precedo) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 13:08:00 -0000 Subject: [python-uk] Re: FW: [marketing-python] Where to market a Python Conference? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > I do not think so ! - I kind of assumed that it was restricted to python > > dev work, but since everyone gets the clp anyway, it may matter less. > > Dunno... > > > I think we should post it once or twice. Lots of people ran out of time > for c.l.p. Can't hurt.... OK, I've sent an announcement to c.l.p.announce. -- John Precedo (johnp@reportlab.com) Developer Reportlab Europe Ltd (http://www.reportlab.com) From python-uk@python.org Fri Mar 21 13:48:09 2003 From: python-uk@python.org (John Precedo) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 13:48:09 -0000 Subject: [python-uk] Conference marketing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I said: > I asked on the marketing-python list about where to market a Python > conference. > > They have suggested the following: > * Zope lists - post to zope-announce, at least. > * Slashdot > * linuxpr.com > * emailing an announcement to Stephan Deibel [sdeibel@wingide.com]: > > Does anyone want to take over any of these, or should I go ahead and do it > myself? Well, nobody got in touch with me, so I have carried out all of the above. Zope stuff went to the Zope list and Zope announce. -- John Precedo (johnp@reportlab.com) Developer Reportlab Europe Ltd (http://www.reportlab.com) From python-uk@python.org Fri Mar 21 17:29:11 2003 From: python-uk@python.org (John Precedo) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 17:29:11 -0000 Subject: [python-uk] Re: [marketing-python] Where to market a Python Conference? Message-ID: Well, it's well and truly out there now. Might be too late for a lot of people, but 100 or so contacts ain't to be sniffed at ! > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephan Deibel [mailto:sdeibel@wingide.com] > Sent: 21 March 2003 17:29 > To: John Precedo > Subject: RE: [marketing-python] Where to market a Python Conference? > > > Thanks. I've sent this on the our press contact list, which includes > about 100 contacts. > > - Stephan > > On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, John Precedo wrote: > > > Announcement of the 2003 Python UK Conference > > ============================================= > > > > The UK Python conference 2003 will take place in Oxford, on > > Wednesday April 2nd and Thursday 3rd. Speakers including the Python > > language founder Guido van Rossum, who will deliver the keynote > > speech. > > > > The conference will be held in the pleasant surroundings of > > > > Holiday Inn Oxford > > Pear Tree Roundabout, > > Woodstock Road, > > Oxford, OX2 8JD > > www.holiday-inn.co.uk > > > > We are very excited to be working once again with the ACCU to bring > > the UK Python conference to life. The conference last year was a big > > success with all attendees, and we hope to repeat that success with a > > bigger and better line up of speakers, including the Python language > > founder Guido van Rossum, who will deliver the keynote on Wednesday > > 2nd April. > > > > Other speakers include: > > Alex Martelli, Andy Todd, Andy Robinson, Anthony Eden, Chris Withers, > > Duncan Booth, Duncan Grisby, Greg Colvin, Hamish Lawson, Jacob > > Hallen, Marc-Andre Lemburg, and Paul Brian. > > > > As a taster of the conference we have conducted a series of short > > interviews with Python luminaries including Guido van Rossum and Eric > > Raymond. The interviews will be appearing on the conference website. > > > > What is Python? > > --------------- > > Python is a powerful object oriented programming language that is > > developed and maintained by a global community of Open Source > > contributors, under the oversight of the Python Software Foundation. > > Python's unique blend of simplicity and power excels in a wide range > > of business and research development tasks, including the construction > > of web applications, complex business solutions, and large desktop > > applications. > > > > Links > > ----- > > Conference website: > > http://www.python-uk.org/ > > > > Conference Wiki: > > http://server.reportlab.com/accu-2003/moin.cgi/ > > > > To sign up please go to here: > > http://www.accuconference.co.uk/registration2003.asp > > > > And to view the schedule, please go here: > > http://www.shiningrose.co.uk/pyuk/pyukSchedule_current.html > > > > Contact: > > Andy Robinson > > Reportlab Europe Ltd > > +44 7976 355 742 > > andy@reportlab.com > > > > -- > > John Precedo (johnp@reportlab.com) Developer > > Reportlab Europe Ltd (http://www.reportlab.com) > > From python-uk@python.org Sun Mar 23 18:45:43 2003 From: python-uk@python.org (python-uk@python.org) Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 18:45:43 -0000 Subject: [python-uk] RE Losing Ground at Paradise E4th Message-ID: <43c801c2f16c$6869a070$aa6c78c1@ntweb1> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_43C9_01C2F16C.6869A070 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tom Noonan's Paradise Theater Company Presents Losing Ground A new play written and directed by bryan wizemann assistant directed by matthieu cornillon LOSING GROUND is a contemporary drama set in a small video poker bar at the dimly lit outskirts of Las Vegas. 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I'm sure the right person to ask will be on that! -- John Precedo (johnp@reportlab.com) Developer Reportlab Europe Ltd (http://www.reportlab.com) > -----Original Message----- > From: Leon Brocard [mailto:acme@geekflat.org]On Behalf Of Leon Brocard > Sent: 30 March 2003 19:01 > To: johnp@reportlab.com > Subject: Python UK conf > > > Hello, sorry if you're not the right guy to ask, but you're > the only email address I found on http://www.python-uk.org/. > > I would love to go, apart from the price. 570 pounds is an awful lot > of money. Why is it so expensive? (PyCon this year was $200, which I > still think is a lot. For example, YAPC::Europe is 99 EUR). > > Wouldn't a cheaper conference attract more attendees? It's a shame I > can't go. The lineup looks great but at that price it would have been > cheaper to fly to PyCon ;-) > > Cheers, Leon > -- > Leon Brocard.............................http://www.astray.com/ > scribot.................................http://www.scribot.com/ > > ... Have Tardis, will travel From python-uk@python.org Mon Mar 31 15:06:12 2003 From: python-uk@python.org (Andy Robinson) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 16:06:12 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] RE: Python UK conf In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > I would love to go, apart from the price. 570 pounds is > an awful lot > > of money. Why is it so expensive? (PyCon this year was > $200, which I > > still think is a lot. For example, YAPC::Europe is 99 EUR). > > > > Wouldn't a cheaper conference attract more attendees? > It's a shame I > > can't go. The lineup looks great but at that price it > would have been > > cheaper to fly to PyCon ;-) Fair question ;-) First, the Python conference is only 2 days so you only have to pay for 2 days. If you pay ?25 to join the ACCU, the price is ?260. This is sort of "mid range" for professionally run conferences, not dirt cheap but not the worst I have seen. Second, the ACCU has kindly arranged this event for us and just asked if we wanted to add Python tracks; we are saying "yes" for the second time in a row. They run it to break even but the event DOES have to cover the event manager's salary and all the costs of a professional conference centre; it's not a "volunteer effort". We have absoutely no say in the costs. Our choice each year is simple. We can accept their offer of having a superbly-organised event which puts Python "up there" with C++ and Java, and a budget to get speakers like Guido with no risk to ourselves, or we can decline it. Sadly we can't persuade them to halve the price :-) There is no way it can ever compete with a volunteer effort like EuroPython on price, and for this reason I expect EuroPython will be 2-3 times as popular at least. - Andy From python-uk@python.org Mon Mar 31 15:16:20 2003 From: python-uk@python.org (Duncan Booth) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 16:16:20 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] RE: Python UK conf In-Reply-To: References: <20030330180056.GA17617@kanga.astray.com> Message-ID: <3E8869D4.28488.183EA09@localhost> On 31 Mar 2003 at 15:53, John Precedo wrote: > > I would love to go, apart from the price. 570 pounds is an awful lot > > of money. Why is it so expensive? (PyCon this year was $200, which I > > still think is a lot. For example, YAPC::Europe is 99 EUR). You don't have to pay =A3570. ACCU members pay =A3475, or they could go to the 2 Python days for =A3260. Since ACCU membership is a massive =A315, there doesn't seem much point paying the non-member rates. One thing that pushes the price up is that speakers get transport and accomodation paid. I'm cheap (over the last two conferences I've claimed one night in a hotel and meals) but most speakers probably cost a lot more. I don't think the low cost conferences pay for speaker accomodation, and some even charge speakers admission. (A quick look at YAPC::Europe site seems to indicate that speakers get free entry but no other expenses, nevertheless 99 EUR is pretty impressive pricing). ACCU is good at getting high calibre speakers, and this is in no small part due to their having the budget to pay for them. I have found a lot of other conferences which charge speakers tend to end up with speakers who are there trying to sell something. (This is all generalisations of course, there are probably some very cheap excellent conferences out there). -- Duncan Booth duncan@dales.rmplc.co.uk int month(char *p){return(124864/((p[0]+p[1]- p[2]&0x1f)+1)%12)["\5\x8\3" "\6\7\xb\1\x9\xa\2\0\4"];} // Who said my code was obscure? http://dales.rmplc.co.uk/Duncan