Why not just show the out-of-range index?

Robert Kern robert.kern at gmail.com
Mon Dec 4 20:30:55 EST 2006


rurpy at yahoo.com wrote:
> Robert Kern wrote:
>> rurpy at yahoo.com wrote:
>>> I saw no posts where there OP insulted anybody without being
>>> insulted first.  It is ironic the Mr. Kern was the most consistent
>>> insulter while at the same time accusing the OP of rudeness.
>> As I said, insult is in the ear of the listener, so I apologize if anyone
>> construed my comments as insults. However, facts are facts, and I stated them as
>> I believe them. If you can pick out the precise comments that you felt were
>> insulting, I will be happy to attempt clarifying them in a way that you do not
>> find insulting.
> 
> Facts?
> 
> As I explained in another post, "encouraging" someone to submit
> a patch without a clue about the poster's abilities or resources
> is offensive.

I can't even begin to fathom that. I pointed him to the one path that will
(nearly) ensure that he gets the fix that he wants.

>> "begging for a fix on comp.lang.python is ..."
> I didn't see the OP "begging" for anything.

As you wish. I'll admit that the choice of words had more emotional baggage than
perhaps the situation warranted. But you can't tell me that his choice of words
had any less. Or yours.

>> "His suggestion that his time is worth more than that of anyone else..."
> again (as the OP pointed out) no such claim was
> made.

In your words, his "meaning is clear".

>> "and yes, you are being incredibly rude and insulting"
> By responding in kind?  I thought he was quite restrained
> given the provocation.

Given that I don't understand how pointing him to appropriate actions to take to
get his feature request implemented is a provocation, I don't buy this one, either.

>> "The way that you have been acting..."
> Funny, I thought he was posting to c.l.p.  Sounds like
> he is a petulant 6 year old child.

Pick any synonym you like, but I do believe that adults are capable of "acting".
I thought "act" was the least emotional and most appropriate of the bunch.
Perhaps I was wrong.

> In virtually every one of your posts you said things that
> I certainly would have been offended by.

I'll admit that you do seem easily offended.

>> "You're also missing that *I'm trying to help you*"
> 
> I hope you understand that I'm trying to help *you*?

Yes, thank you. I specifically asked for clarification, and you provided it. I'm
not sure why you think that I wouldn't understand that. As Russ has been
fighting every practical suggestion (which I hope he can separate out from what
he believes are insults), I have no way of knowing that he understands that.

-- 
Robert Kern

"I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma
 that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had
 an underlying truth."
  -- Umberto Eco




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