[Python-ideas] Simon's ideas [Was: How to respond to trolling (Guido van Rossum)]

[Guyzmo]

Hello Simon,

I'm mostly lurking this mailing list and this is my first post, so
hello everybody 🙌.

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 12:13:03PM +0800, Simon Lovell wrote:
> I feel I have to respond to this one.

This discussion hasn't much to do on this mailing list and it's only
generating noise. Please, would be kind enough to keep discussing this
on python-list (aka comp.lang.python) where it belongs?

And eventually, once discussion settles on realistic changes that /can/ be
added to python you might want to submit a PEP:

http://legacy.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0001/

To quote the above linked document, I believe this applies to your
situation:

> Asking the Python community first if an idea is original helps prevent
> too much time being spent on something that is guaranteed to be
> rejected based on prior discussions (searching the internet does not
> always do the trick). It also helps to make sure the idea is
> applicable to the entire community and not just the author.

And read 5 times the following part before posting here again:

> Just because an idea sounds good to the author does not mean it will
> work for most people in most areas where Python is used.

Even though I can only believe this is not your intent, in the end it
looks pretty clear that many people, including myself, are being annoyed
by these threads making the signal/noise ratio of this list very low.

As I've read the original mail I knew it would end up in a low
signal/noise ratio discussion because even I wanted to lecture you,
Simon, about languages, grammar and compilers. Instead I killed the
original thread (plonk!), as I find little interest in this discussion,
but it keeps on respawning as some posters are breaking the threads.

So please, be kind and have some netiquette. 🙏

Thank you,

-- 
Bernard `Guyzmo` Pratz