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[Nick Timkovich]

I would consider the speed of the "ultimate error handler" (i.e. whatever
prints the traceback and kills the program) in the interpreter to be moot,
so long as it takes a small fraction of a second. Optimizing Python's speed
it crashes super-fast due to an *unhandled* NameError in your program seems
folly.

Regarding more informative messages for (e.g.) IndexError, would those just
apply to built-in types as they're the most universal, or should some
additional introspection be done for similar ducks?

If it's useful/there's interest, I could try to do some analysis of Python
questions on SO and see what the most common errors are. I'd guess things
like "'NoneType' object has no attribute ..." would probably be up there,
but that's a whole can of worms as to why someone's trying to call a method
on, index, etc. something they accidentally whacked (a = a.sort()).

On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 11:42 AM, Chris Barker <chris.barker at noaa.gov>
wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 5:48 AM, Nick Coghlan <ncoghlan at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > SyntaxErrors in an inner loop? That seems unlikely to me.
>>
>
> Syntax Errors are a special case, as by definition the code isn't being
> run yet (yes, there could be an eval in there...)
>
> So we could at least make those more informative without worrying about
> performance.
>
> Also -- would it be possible to tack on the more informative message at a
> higher level? Once the Exception bubbles up to the REPL, is there enough
> information available to make a more informative message?
>
> -CHB
>
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