[Python-ideas] More "ensure*" packages

[Joonas Liik]

> Currently, we bundle pip (and some of its dependencies - let's avoid that
> particular discussion right now please, it's on python-dev) and install it
> by default in a way that lets users easily update to the latest version.
> Including pip in the standard library would lock users into a specific
> version for the lifetime of that Python version, which would be a bad thing.

pip install --upgrade pip
has worked well every time i have tried it..


I would like to mention that dealing with any package that
has a c-extension is utter pain under windows tho,

..especially if you want somebody else to be able to run your code,
how is not a dev.