[Python-ideas] int('0x3241fca1')

[Andrew Barnert]

On Feb 6, 2014, at 4:44, Ram Rachum <ram.rachum at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ah, you're talking about non-programmers. I can't imagine though a non-programmer seriously complaining that "0x0" is a number while "0z" isn't. 

Can you please read the whole sentence before replying to it? I specifically said "Would a newbie--or a non-programmer using a program--understand..."

And you can't imagine a non-programmer complaining that "0123" is either not a number, or the number 83?

> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Andrew Barnert <abarnert at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Feb 6, 2014, at 4:35, Ram Rachum <ram.rachum at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Andrew Barnert <abarnert at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On Feb 6, 2014, at 4:19, Ram Rachum <ram.rachum at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I don't understand... The newbie will pass '0x13412' to the int constructor by mistake and be surprised when it's parsed as hex? Doesn't make sense does it? 
>>>> 
>>>> Would a newbie--or a non-programmer using a program--understand why, say, "0X0" counts as a valid number but "0Z" doesn't?
>>> 
>>> Since they're likely to get the same confusion while feeding literals to the Python shell, I think this is acceptable.
>> 
>> You think it's acceptable that a non-programmer should have to understand the python shell to use any program written in Python?
> 
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