[Python-ideas] Fwd: i18n and Python tracebacks

[Andre Roberge]

Sorry, I did not forward to the list by mistake.
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From: Andre Roberge <andre.roberge at gmail.com>
Date: Sat, May 15, 2010 at 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Python-ideas] i18n and Python tracebacks
To: Antoine Pitrou <solipsis at pitrou.net>

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Antoine Pitrou <solipsis at pitrou.net>wrote:

> On Sat, 15 May 2010 11:02:35 -0300
> Andre Roberge <andre.roberge at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>> 1/0
> > Suivi d'erreur (appel le plus récent en dernier) :
> >   Fichier "<stdin>", à la ligne 1, dans <module>
> > ZeroDivisionError: division entière ou modulo par zéro
>
> I'm not sure it's a good idea. The fact that these messages are always
> in English makes it possible:
> - to share them with other developers in order to get help
> - to parse them in order to assert certain kind of errors
>
> These messages are primarily meant for developers, not users.
>

I think you forget students (including one ones) that have to deal with such
messages.

Imagine you could start python with

python --lang="en" your_script.py

This would easily allow to share tracebacks with developers to get help.


> (as a sidenote, I regularly get annoyed by gcc's "translated" error
> messages -- especially how crappy the French translation often is.
> It's always better to get a good English error message than a horrible
> French one)
>

True ...  I know I'd choose English as a default myself  for Python (even
though, like you I believe, French is my first language).  *But*, for
beginners, this would be, I think, a great option.

André


>
> Antoine.
>
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