[Python-Dev] PEP 376 and PEP 302 - allowing import hooks to provide distribution metadata

Tarek Ziadé ziade.tarek at gmail.com
Mon Jul 6 18:05:49 CEST 2009


On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Paul Moore<p.f.moore at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2009/7/6 Tarek Ziadé <ziade.tarek at gmail.com>:
>> why can't we just go ahead and continue the work as we started with PEP 376,
>> introducing your work on PEP 302-like behavior.
>>
>> Then if we get a consensus on this PEP and introduce it in 2.7/3.2,
>> setuptools will have to follow this consensus.
>
> Essentially, because when I ask questions, responses along the lines
> of "you have to do it like X because setuptools does that" come back,
> and (not being a setuptools user) I can't tell whether there's a valid
> reason in there.

Notice that we created PEP 376 in distutils-SIG with most of the valid
reasons/use cases setuptools had,
with the help of Phillip, before I brought it up again on python-dev.


>
> I'm uncomfortable assuming that setuptools experience is irrelevant,
> but I can't distinguish between valid arguments and "setuptools can't
> change" arguments.
>
> I need to write another email with a list of outstanding open issues.
> If we can thrash them out *without* getting bogged down in setuptools
> compatibility questions, then I think we can move forward again. I'll
> do that this evening.

Ok, I'll wait for your work to work on the PEP again then, and your
push in the hg repo as well.


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