[Python-Dev] Re: Py2.4 pre-alpha snapshot

Kurt B. Kaiser kbk at shore.net
Sun Dec 7 17:53:28 EST 2003


Paul Moore <pf_moore at yahoo.co.uk> writes:

> How will the free VC7 work (I assume Kurt means the one in the .NET
> SDK)? AFAIK, it doesn't support Visual Studio project files. It also
> doesn't include an optimizer, what effect will that have on build
> compatibility, etc?

Here are the pertinent messages from last spring:

-- 
KBK

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From: Guido van Rossum <guido at python.org>
Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] MS VC 7 offer
To: phil at riverbankcomputing.co.uk
cc: python-dev at python.org
Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 14:55:15 -0400

> How do we get hold of the free VC 7 compilers?

Here's the info Nick sent me:

| We offer as part of the .NET Framework SDK each of the compilers that
| comprise our Visual Studio tool - including C++.  The caveat here is
| that we don't yet ship the full CRT or STL with this distribution -
| this will be changing.  Also, the 64bit C++ compilers ship for free as
| part of the Windows Platform SDK.  All of this is available on
| msdn.microsoft.com.
[...]
| Here are the links to the SDKs.  But so you aren't surprised, these are
| NOT low-overhead downloads or installs...
| 
| .NET Framework 1.1
| 
| http://www.msdn.microsoft.com/netframework/downloads/howtoget.aspx
| 
| Platform SDK
| 
| http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/sdkintro/sdkintro/obtaining_the_complete_sdk.asp

--Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)

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From: Tim Peters <tim.one at comcast.net>
Subject: RE: [Python-Dev] MS VC 7 offer
To: phil at riverbankcomputing.co.uk
Cc: python-dev at python.org
Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 14:56:52 -0400

[Phil Thompson]
> How do we get hold of the free VC 7 compilers?

Part of the 100+ MB .NET Framework 1.1 SDK:

http://www.msdn.microsoft.com/netframework/downloads/howtoget.aspx

Note that this requires Win2K minimum.

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From: Chad Netzer <cnetzer at mail.arc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] MS VC 7 offer
To: python-dev at python.org
Date: 06 May 2003 15:37:30 -0700
Organization: 

On Tue, 2003-05-06 at 15:06, Guido van Rossum wrote:

> Part of the offer was:
> 
> | Potentially we can even figure out how to enable anyone to
> | build Python using the freely downloadable compilers I mentioned
> | above...

Which would seem to exclude building on Win98 machines (or WinME
*snort*, or even Win NT 4).  Those platforms still have a huge installed
base, and I would assume a not insignificant developer base.

Is offering a MSVC6 version along with a more recent compiler version an
option?

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Chad Netzer
(any opinion expressed is my own and not NASA's or my employer's)

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