Tim> Heck, if Unix dweebs had applied YAGNI, ls wouldn't have 51 useless Tim> options <wink>. I believe the first couple Unix programmers did, though I doubt they thought of it in precisely that acronym. It was the masses that followed (probably influenced by some expatriate VMS programmers) who got carried away with adding thirty-leven options to every little filter. <wink><wink> Skip