[Python-Dev] Re: Stability and change
Guido van Rossum
guido@python.org
Mon, 08 Apr 2002 13:34:58 -0400
[Barry]
> >I wonder if decoupling more of the standard library isn't a good idea,
> >although it flies in the face of "batteries included". One thing I
[AMK]
> I'd like this approach, though perhaps the "Batteries Included"
> distribution rather than the standard library should be handled like
> this.
For a batteries included release, this would be great.
> It would also require finalizing a catalog implementation (at
> last!)
I believe Kapil is working on it; he's presenting a paper at OSCON2002.
> An open question is how to avoid the CPAN trap of having your modules
> require you to upgrade your Python installation. Perhaps each module
> version would specify the Python version it's compatible with.
>
> Module version compat. with
> 0.0.1 Py2.1
> 0.0.2 Py2.1
> 0.0.5 Py2.2
Ideally it should list a range of versions (or a set?). Of course, the
upper end of the range may need to be adjusted when new releases come
out -- nobody knows whether Module 0.0.5 will be compatible with Py2.3
until the latter is released.
> So when you're on Python 2.1, you can only get upgraded to 0.0.2. The
> problem is, if the developer of version 0.0.5 didn't realize that it
> was incompatible with 2.1, you'll get upgraded to it and your system
> will be broken.
>
> (Take package management far enough and you begin to reinvent Debian's
> APT. I wonder if we could write a dpkg-like tool in Python and then
> just use APT on top of that?)
I think version dependency management is subject to the Logajan
paradox. :-(
--Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)