From olemis at gmail.com  Tue May 10 13:38:39 2016
From: olemis at gmail.com (Olemis Lang)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 12:38:39 -0500
Subject: [Python-cuba] [RFC] Recommended dates to schedule events (in Cuba)
 May 2017
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It seems we might be offering some events on May 2017 . If so, what
would be the most appropriate date , before PyCon US 2017 or after ?

p.s. BTW , what date PyCon US 2017 is scheduled at ?

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From jackiekazil at gmail.com  Tue May 10 22:05:20 2016
From: jackiekazil at gmail.com (Jacqueline Kazil)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 22:05:20 -0400
Subject: [Python-cuba] [RFC] Recommended dates to schedule events (in
 Cuba) May 2017
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If you scroll down this page and look at 2016, you can see when Python
conferences are happening around the world.
I would say March or September, because the summer has a major conference
every month.... that helps you get some people who often go to a lot of
conferences and not burn them out. Make sense?



On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Olemis Lang <olemis at gmail.com> wrote:

> It seems we might be offering some events on May 2017 . If so, what
> would be the most appropriate date , before PyCon US 2017 or after ?
>
> p.s. BTW , what date PyCon US 2017 is scheduled at ?
>
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>
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>
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From jackiekazil at gmail.com  Tue May 10 22:05:28 2016
From: jackiekazil at gmail.com (Jacqueline Kazil)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 22:05:28 -0400
Subject: [Python-cuba] [RFC] Recommended dates to schedule events (in
 Cuba) May 2017
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Oopps... forgot the link: http://www.pycon.org/

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 10:05 PM, Jacqueline Kazil <jackiekazil at gmail.com>
wrote:

> If you scroll down this page and look at 2016, you can see when Python
> conferences are happening around the world.
> I would say March or September, because the summer has a major conference
> every month.... that helps you get some people who often go to a lot of
> conferences and not burn them out. Make sense?
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Olemis Lang <olemis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It seems we might be offering some events on May 2017 . If so, what
>> would be the most appropriate date , before PyCon US 2017 or after ?
>>
>> p.s. BTW , what date PyCon US 2017 is scheduled at ?
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Olemis - @olemislc
>>
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From kirby.urner at gmail.com  Tue May 10 23:02:04 2016
From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 22:02:04 -0500
Subject: [Python-cuba] [RFC] Recommended dates to schedule events (in
 Cuba) May 2017
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On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 12:38 PM, Olemis Lang <olemis at gmail.com> wrote:

> It seems we might be offering some events on May 2017 . If so, what
> would be the most appropriate date , before PyCon US 2017 or after ?
>
> p.s. BTW , what date PyCon US 2017 is scheduled at ?
>
>
I don't know the answer to this question, but safe to assume around the
same time as this year?

Using the term PyCon is somewhat confusing as the North American PyCon
keeps to the narrative that it is "the" PyCon:

"PyCon is the largest annual gathering for the community using and
developing the open-source Python programming language."  (quoting from the
website).

Unless this changes, I think relinquishing "PyCon" to the North American
organizers (PSF) and their annual confab, and going with other names for
PyEvents elsewhere, makes a lot of sense.

What do others think?

Kirby
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From olemis at gmail.com  Tue May 10 23:26:29 2016
From: olemis at gmail.com (Olemis Lang)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 22:26:29 -0500
Subject: [Python-cuba] [RFC] Recommended dates to schedule events (in
 Cuba) May 2017
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 <CAKD0ODyVpnWSAQja3ZAmu9RZbdf_pKoSWSqdSQrMhF8+=habFQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On 5/10/16, Jacqueline Kazil <jackiekazil at gmail.com> wrote:
> If you scroll down this page and look at 2016, you can see when Python
> conferences are happening around the world.

jftr http://www.pycon.org/

> I would say March or September, because the summer has a major conference
> every month.... that helps you get some people who often go to a lot of
> conferences and not burn them out. Make sense?
>

Sometimes people can only travel on holidays. Hence my initial idea
considered another *tactic* decision , consisting in scheduling it
close to PyCon US 2017 so that people traveling from South America to
attend PyCon US could spend few days in Cuba, attend the conference,
and continue to the North .

The other option would be to do exactly the opposite . Schedule it
after PyCon US so that people from South (returning) and North America
could attend the conference after PyCon US .

The other aspect I'd consider is related to school breaks , which
particularly useful for couples planning family trips . Some date
close to spring or summer breaks [1]_ would be nice .

Any other variables to consider ?

.. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_holidays_in_the_United_States

[...]

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From olemis at gmail.com  Tue May 10 23:32:22 2016
From: olemis at gmail.com (Olemis Lang)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 22:32:22 -0500
Subject: [Python-cuba] [RFC] Recommended dates to schedule events (in
 Cuba) May 2017
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On 5/10/16, kirby urner <kirby.urner at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 12:38 PM, Olemis Lang <olemis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It seems we might be offering some events on May 2017 . If so, what
>> would be the most appropriate date , before PyCon US 2017 or after ?
>>
>> p.s. BTW , what date PyCon US 2017 is scheduled at ?
>>
>>
> I don't know the answer to this question, but safe to assume around the
> same time as this year?
>
> Using the term PyCon is somewhat confusing as the North American PyCon
> keeps to the narrative that it is "the" PyCon:
>
> "PyCon is the largest annual gathering for the community using and
> developing the open-source Python programming language."  (quoting from the
> website).
>
> Unless this changes, I think relinquishing "PyCon" to the North American
> organizers (PSF) and their annual confab, and going with other names for
> PyEvents elsewhere, makes a lot of sense.
>
> What do others think?
>

Sounds good to me . Nonetheless I still emphasize in saying "PyCon US"
since "PyCon" term has expanded its geographical scope and you know
... "better explicit than implicit" ;)

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From kirby.urner at gmail.com  Tue May 10 23:49:14 2016
From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 22:49:14 -0500
Subject: [Python-cuba] [RFC] Recommended dates to schedule events (in
 Cuba) May 2017
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Maybe PSF.Pycon since it went to Canada for two years. It's one Pycon among
many and bigger doesn't always mean better. PyCuba has a ring to it.

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From olemis at gmail.com  Sun May 22 23:02:58 2016
From: olemis at gmail.com (Olemis Lang)
Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 22:02:58 -0500
Subject: [Python-cuba] [RFC] Community-driven platform for running workshops
 to teach Python programming
Message-ID: <CAGMZAuOWD0UGx7QJLNb9rm1KUdO2cEMJHYErn+vy7UrUdEHSRw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi everyone !

These days I'm planning to run another session of NodeSchool Havana
[1]_ and I was wondering whether there is a similar community building
a decentralized open source and collaborative platform to run
workshops to teach Python programming . Do you know of anything
similar ?

.. [1] http://nodeschool.io/havana

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From kirby.urner at gmail.com  Mon May 23 11:44:37 2016
From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner)
Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 08:44:37 -0700
Subject: [Python-cuba] [RFC] Community-driven platform for running
 workshops to teach Python programming
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On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 8:02 PM, Olemis Lang <olemis at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone !
>
> These days I'm planning to run another session of NodeSchool Havana
> [1]_ and I was wondering whether there is a similar community building
> a decentralized open source and collaborative platform to run
> workshops to teach Python programming . Do you know of anything
> similar ?
>
> .. [1] http://nodeschool.io/havana
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Olemis - @olemislc
>


I've been polling edu-sig (@python.org) with similar questions, having had
three+ years with an in-house asynchronous so-called Nano, which allowed
Python students to submit programs and quiz answers for evaluation to
human evaluators (called mentors).

When every quiz submission is also an opportunity to ask specific questions
requiring customized sometimes researched answers, you're at one end of
the spectrum.  Everything robo-graded where the machine evaluates in
mere milliseconds, serving millions, is at the other end of said spectrum.

Providing one-on-one coaching through mentor services is not practical in a
real time tutorial or workshop setting.  Even with a one-to-one ratio (not
common), a difficult bug will not yield to scrutiny immediately, and some
concepts (such as 'yield' in Python) take time to digest.  The ideal of
always
sprinting is just not realistic.  A steady climb but with frequent rests is
more
how we develop any kind of muscles, including in a gym.  The mentor and
student need slack, i.e. the liberty to follow their own timelines, not in
lockstep.

The previous paragraph is a thinly disguised advertisement for more
asynchronous platforms coupled to live human mentors who may provide
customized feedback and field student questions.  The robo-grading parlor
is useful to students who also have access to live humans, but over-reliance
on robo-grading is not going to benefit students beyond a certain level.

What Nano did for us is organize student submissions in queues, time
stamped, but returnable in any order.  Our rule was three business days
max for any turnaround, with the average quite a bit less, sometimes
just hours or even minutes.  Sorting by project meant evaluating many
solutions to the same problem and that could be a more productive order
for a mentor, ditto quizzes.  Students could ask for clarification and more
background, and expect considered answers -- just not in real time.

I've also done real time workshops over the web, and that's a different
animal.  Assuming high bandwidth (not always a safe assumption), I've
led groups of 20-21 through 40 hour Python marathons where I talk on
the microphone and share my screen, and they listen and type comments
to a chat window in real time.  There's a place for such pedagogy
(andragogy)
just as there's still plenty of room for real time meetups and having
mentors
and students all in the same room together.

A potential pitfall is either/or thinking and imagining some contest
between
all these modes where in fact such a contest does not exist. They're all
with us to stay.  That being said, finding the right mix or sweet spot is
in
itself a skill and I think we're still in the initial experimental phase of
finding
out how client-server technology is going to change our learning strategies.

I say this in part based on our company's decision to discontinue with Nano
and try something else, disbanding the Nano-based team.  Given I was on
that team, I've continued to have in interest in how to best manage
workflows
in a "learning Python" situation.  Google Classroom was on my radar but I've
not made much headway on that score.  I'd be interested to find out about
more mentor-centric solutions especially (the robo-grader systems already
seem to be doing pretty well).

Kirby
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