[python-committers] Anatoly has been warned about his behaviour potentially leading to his loss of tracker privileges

Eli Bendersky eliben at gmail.com
Fri Nov 29 23:59:20 CET 2013


On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Eli Bendersky <eliben at gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Guido van Rossum <guido at python.org>wrote:
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>> Here's another idea. Ban him temporarily from the tracker and the
>> lists(*) and tell him that to be unbanned he has to talk to me, and to me
>> only. I will then negotiate a cool-off period and posting guidelines with
>> him. If he violate those he will automatically be banned permanently (or at
>> least for a year).
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>> (*) Which lists? I'd say python-dev and python-idea -- are there any
>> other lists where he hangs out? Or perhaps all lists on mail python.orgjust so he won't take his complaints to other lists.
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> This idea sounds good to me. If you don't mind the extra work, Guido, +1
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Oh, I forgot to add that if Anatoly's contacted off-lists about this and
the conditions (per Guido's outline) are clearly explained, I don't see how
this can become a PR disaster. FWIW, python-committers is a list with
publicly visible archives - it's very easy to see this whole discussion and
how much though the core devs have put into this (including previous
discussions mentioning Anatoly).

Eli









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>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Antoine Pitrou <antoine at python.org>wrote:
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>>> On ven., 2013-11-29 at 11:40 -0800, Guido van Rossum wrote:
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>>> > If you can get a majority of the committers to vote to ban him we
>>> > should do it -- but that's a high bar (many committers probably don't
>>> > care enough to vote).
>>>
>>> Well, many are probably inactive enough to not even notice this
>>> discussion :-) I'm not sure about the authoritative source, but the SSH
>>> keys repository shows 178 people with access rights. The majority of
>>> them isn't probably active nowadays.
>>>
>>> Then I don't know where his behaviour is most problematic: on the
>>> tracker or the MLs?
>>> If we only ban him from the tracker, I'm afraid he'll start making
>>> "here's an issue I can't post on the tracker because I'm banned" posts
>>> on the mailing-list...
>>>
>>> Perhaps a temporary ban? There does need to be a signal sent to him.
>>> (apparently, he stopped reopening the issue when Georg told him
>>> reopening the issue would lead to loss of posting rights, which implies
>>> he is sensitive to this kind of signals)
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Antoine.
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>> --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)
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