From doko at debian.org Sun Sep 13 17:54:27 2009 From: doko at debian.org (Matthias Klose) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 17:54:27 +0200 Subject: [python-committers] Misc/NEWS entries added to released versions In-Reply-To: <49D9319F.1050506@debian.org> References: <49D9319F.1050506@debian.org> Message-ID: <4AAD15B3.8080504@debian.org> On 06.04.2009 00:33, Matthias Klose wrote: > While looking at the diffs between the 261 release tags and the 26 branch, I > noticed many items in Misc/NEWS appearing in the 2.6.1 or even 2.6 sections. > I moved all of these to 2.6.2, after checking some of them, and found all of the > checked ones be backported after the 2.6.1 release. Is there anything what could > be done to avoid these wrong merges? > > I plan to check the items on the 3.0 branch soon. done again for the 2.6.3 (2.6 branch) and 3.1.2 (3.1 branch) entries. I didn't check if these were inserted to earlier entries by intent except for the removal of the entry for issue #2522. Matthias From greg at krypto.org Sun Sep 13 18:07:40 2009 From: greg at krypto.org (Gregory P. Smith) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 09:07:40 -0700 Subject: [python-committers] Misc/NEWS entries added to released versions In-Reply-To: <4AAD15B3.8080504@debian.org> References: <49D9319F.1050506@debian.org> <4AAD15B3.8080504@debian.org> Message-ID: <52dc1c820909130907h46de056cp9fd27e45ccf0c038@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Matthias Klose wrote: > On 06.04.2009 00:33, Matthias Klose wrote: >> >> While looking at the diffs between the 261 release tags and the 26 branch, >> I >> noticed many items in Misc/NEWS appearing in the 2.6.1 or even 2.6 >> sections. >> I moved all of these to 2.6.2, after checking some of them, and found all >> of the >> checked ones be backported after the 2.6.1 release. Is there anything what >> could >> be done to avoid these wrong merges? >> >> I plan to check the items on the 3.0 branch soon. > > done again for the 2.6.3 (2.6 branch) and 3.1.2 (3.1 branch) entries. I > didn't check if these were inserted to earlier entries by intent except for > the removal of the entry for issue #2522. > > ?Matthias Thanks. One reason this happens is that our NEWS file is very difficult to navigate. svnmerge rarely works on it because the context is often different in the branch file but figuring out which version's section of the bazillion line file you are currently in is very tedious in a text editor. brainstorm: It'd be nicer if we could generate the file from another source, perhaps keep each releases news in its own file and merge it all together at release time? Or have a NEWS.latest file that contains only updates since the previous release (part of making a release would be to prepend NEWS.latest to the NEWS file and truncate NEWS.latest)? From brett at python.org Sun Sep 13 22:15:54 2009 From: brett at python.org (Brett Cannon) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 13:15:54 -0700 Subject: [python-committers] Misc/NEWS entries added to released versions In-Reply-To: <52dc1c820909130907h46de056cp9fd27e45ccf0c038@mail.gmail.com> References: <49D9319F.1050506@debian.org> <4AAD15B3.8080504@debian.org> <52dc1c820909130907h46de056cp9fd27e45ccf0c038@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 09:07, Gregory P. Smith wrote: > On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Matthias Klose wrote: >> On 06.04.2009 00:33, Matthias Klose wrote: >>> >>> While looking at the diffs between the 261 release tags and the 26 branch, >>> I >>> noticed many items in Misc/NEWS appearing in the 2.6.1 or even 2.6 >>> sections. >>> I moved all of these to 2.6.2, after checking some of them, and found all >>> of the >>> checked ones be backported after the 2.6.1 release. Is there anything what >>> could >>> be done to avoid these wrong merges? >>> >>> I plan to check the items on the 3.0 branch soon. >> >> done again for the 2.6.3 (2.6 branch) and 3.1.2 (3.1 branch) entries. I >> didn't check if these were inserted to earlier entries by intent except for >> the removal of the entry for issue #2522. >> >> ?Matthias > > Thanks. ?One reason this happens is that our NEWS file is very > difficult to navigate. ?svnmerge rarely works on it because the > context is often different in the branch file but figuring out which > version's section of the bazillion line file you are currently in is > very tedious in a text editor. > > brainstorm: > > It'd be nicer if we could generate the file from another source, > perhaps keep each releases news in its own file and merge it all > together at release time? > > Or have a NEWS.latest file that contains only updates since the > previous release (part of making a release would be to prepend > NEWS.latest to the NEWS file and truncate NEWS.latest)? Or simply take the first line of each commit? I mean why do we enter it twice? If we have a commit that is unimportant we could come up with some convention to make it as such or simply have the comment start with a blank line. -Brett From solipsis at pitrou.net Sun Sep 13 22:26:21 2009 From: solipsis at pitrou.net (Antoine Pitrou) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 22:26:21 +0200 Subject: [python-committers] Misc/NEWS entries added to released versions In-Reply-To: References: <49D9319F.1050506@debian.org> <4AAD15B3.8080504@debian.org> <52dc1c820909130907h46de056cp9fd27e45ccf0c038@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1252873581.5630.51.camel@localhost> Le dimanche 13 septembre 2009 ? 13:15 -0700, Brett Cannon a ?crit : > > Or simply take the first line of each commit? I mean why do we enter > it twice? If we have a commit that is unimportant we could come up > with some convention to make it as such or simply have the comment > start with a blank line. The NEWS file is often more carefully, or differently, worded than commit messages are. Trying to generate it automatically would probably involve some a posteriori maintenance, and I doubt it's really worth it (at worse, you save a copy / paste in the cases where the commit message is perfectly adequate as a NEWS entry). From rdmurray at bitdance.com Sun Sep 13 22:24:44 2009 From: rdmurray at bitdance.com (R. David Murray) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 16:24:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [python-committers] Misc/NEWS entries added to released versions In-Reply-To: References: <49D9319F.1050506@debian.org> <4AAD15B3.8080504@debian.org> <52dc1c820909130907h46de056cp9fd27e45ccf0c038@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 at 13:15, Brett Cannon wrote: > On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 09:07, Gregory P. Smith wrote: >> Thanks. ??One reason this happens is that our NEWS file is very >> difficult to navigate. ??svnmerge rarely works on it because the >> context is often different in the branch file but figuring out which >> version's section of the bazillion line file you are currently in is >> very tedious in a text editor. >> >> brainstorm: >> >> It'd be nicer if we could generate the file from another source, >> perhaps keep each releases news in its own file and merge it all >> together at release time? >> >> Or have a NEWS.latest file that contains only updates since the >> previous release (part of making a release would be to prepend >> NEWS.latest to the NEWS file and truncate NEWS.latest)? > > Or simply take the first line of each commit? I mean why do we enter > it twice? If we have a commit that is unimportant we could come up > with some convention to make it as such or simply have the comment > start with a blank line. I think it is often good to put more information into the commit message than should go into the NEWS entry. But having a way to mark up the NEWS entry inside the commit message might work. We'd need a volunteer to implement it, though :) --David From brett at python.org Sun Sep 13 22:26:12 2009 From: brett at python.org (Brett Cannon) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 13:26:12 -0700 Subject: [python-committers] Adding a hidden field to BaseException going to break the ABI? Message-ID: issue6844 wants to stop a warning from being raised when someone accesses a 'message' attribute on an exception when it is set by the user (currently any usage of the 'message' attribute raises a warning). To do this properly is going to require some state flag on BaseException's struct. But I don't know if that constitutes breaking the ABI during a micro release or not. I figure no but I wanted to double-check. -Brett From brett at python.org Sun Sep 13 22:27:58 2009 From: brett at python.org (Brett Cannon) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 13:27:58 -0700 Subject: [python-committers] Misc/NEWS entries added to released versions In-Reply-To: <1252873581.5630.51.camel@localhost> References: <49D9319F.1050506@debian.org> <4AAD15B3.8080504@debian.org> <52dc1c820909130907h46de056cp9fd27e45ccf0c038@mail.gmail.com> <1252873581.5630.51.camel@localhost> Message-ID: On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 13:26, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > Le dimanche 13 septembre 2009 ? 13:15 -0700, Brett Cannon a ?crit : >> >> Or simply take the first line of each commit? I mean why do we enter >> it twice? If we have a commit that is unimportant we could come up >> with some convention to make it as such or simply have the comment >> start with a blank line. > > The NEWS file is often more carefully, or differently, worded than > commit messages are. Right, which is why only the first line would be used. All the other usual detail can be there, just do it on another line. > Trying to generate it automatically would probably involve some a > posteriori maintenance, and I doubt it's really worth it (at worse, you > save a copy / paste in the cases where the commit message is perfectly > adequate as a NEWS entry). I suspect we would have to start either at some golden revision or not until a release happens. -Brett From benjamin at python.org Sun Sep 13 22:30:33 2009 From: benjamin at python.org (Benjamin Peterson) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 15:30:33 -0500 Subject: [python-committers] Adding a hidden field to BaseException going to break the ABI? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1afaf6160909131330k5cbbefccq7da2e9db005079cc@mail.gmail.com> 2009/9/13 Brett Cannon : > issue6844 wants to stop a warning from being raised when someone > accesses a 'message' attribute on an exception when it is set by the > user (currently any usage of the 'message' attribute raises a > warning). To do this properly is going to require some state flag on > BaseException's struct. But I don't know if that constitutes breaking > the ABI during a micro release or not. I figure no but I wanted to > double-check. Is the BaseException struct public? -- Regards, Benjamin From solipsis at pitrou.net Sun Sep 13 22:38:12 2009 From: solipsis at pitrou.net (Antoine Pitrou) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 22:38:12 +0200 Subject: [python-committers] Misc/NEWS entries added to released versions In-Reply-To: References: <49D9319F.1050506@debian.org> <4AAD15B3.8080504@debian.org> <52dc1c820909130907h46de056cp9fd27e45ccf0c038@mail.gmail.com> <1252873581.5630.51.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1252874292.5630.53.camel@localhost> Le dimanche 13 septembre 2009 ? 13:27 -0700, Brett Cannon a ?crit : > > Right, which is why only the first line would be used. All the other > usual detail can be there, just do it on another line. But if that line is longer than 80 characters, your $EDITOR may split it automatically and it'll break the generated NEWS. (either that, or you'll want to split it manually to make editing more comfortable) From brett at python.org Sun Sep 13 22:34:37 2009 From: brett at python.org (Brett Cannon) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 13:34:37 -0700 Subject: [python-committers] Adding a hidden field to BaseException going to break the ABI? In-Reply-To: <1afaf6160909131330k5cbbefccq7da2e9db005079cc@mail.gmail.com> References: <1afaf6160909131330k5cbbefccq7da2e9db005079cc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 13:30, Benjamin Peterson wrote: > 2009/9/13 Brett Cannon : >> issue6844 wants to stop a warning from being raised when someone >> accesses a 'message' attribute on an exception when it is set by the >> user (currently any usage of the 'message' attribute raises a >> warning). To do this properly is going to require some state flag on >> BaseException's struct. But I don't know if that constitutes breaking >> the ABI during a micro release or not. I figure no but I wanted to >> double-check. > > Is the BaseException struct public? Only in so far as PyExc_BaseException is documented for use with PyErr_*() and inheritance. -Brett From doko at debian.org Sun Sep 13 22:56:10 2009 From: doko at debian.org (Matthias Klose) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 22:56:10 +0200 Subject: [python-committers] Misc/NEWS entries added to released versions In-Reply-To: <52dc1c820909130907h46de056cp9fd27e45ccf0c038@mail.gmail.com> References: <49D9319F.1050506@debian.org> <4AAD15B3.8080504@debian.org> <52dc1c820909130907h46de056cp9fd27e45ccf0c038@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4AAD5C6A.4080508@debian.org> On 13.09.2009 18:07, Gregory P. Smith wrote: > On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Matthias Klose wrote: >> On 06.04.2009 00:33, Matthias Klose wrote: >>> >>> While looking at the diffs between the 261 release tags and the 26 branch, >>> I >>> noticed many items in Misc/NEWS appearing in the 2.6.1 or even 2.6 >>> sections. >>> I moved all of these to 2.6.2, after checking some of them, and found all >>> of the >>> checked ones be backported after the 2.6.1 release. Is there anything what >>> could >>> be done to avoid these wrong merges? >>> >>> I plan to check the items on the 3.0 branch soon. >> >> done again for the 2.6.3 (2.6 branch) and 3.1.2 (3.1 branch) entries. I >> didn't check if these were inserted to earlier entries by intent except for >> the removal of the entry for issue #2522. >> >> Matthias > > Thanks. One reason this happens is that our NEWS file is very > difficult to navigate. svnmerge rarely works on it because the > context is often different in the branch file but figuring out which > version's section of the bazillion line file you are currently in is > very tedious in a text editor. > > brainstorm: another idea: have a pre-commit hook, which rejects modifications to this file to entries for a released version, which can be overwritten by some keyword in the commit message. Matthias From g.brandl at gmx.net Mon Sep 14 12:31:00 2009 From: g.brandl at gmx.net (Georg Brandl) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:31:00 +0000 Subject: [python-committers] Misc/NEWS entries added to released versions In-Reply-To: References: <49D9319F.1050506@debian.org> <4AAD15B3.8080504@debian.org> <52dc1c820909130907h46de056cp9fd27e45ccf0c038@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Brett Cannon schrieb: >> brainstorm: >> >> It'd be nicer if we could generate the file from another source, >> perhaps keep each releases news in its own file and merge it all >> together at release time? >> >> Or have a NEWS.latest file that contains only updates since the >> previous release (part of making a release would be to prepend >> NEWS.latest to the NEWS file and truncate NEWS.latest)? > > Or simply take the first line of each commit? I mean why do we enter > it twice? If we have a commit that is unimportant we could come up > with some convention to make it as such or simply have the comment > start with a blank line. We should just switch to Mercurial :) I've already hacked up a hg extension to automatically fill the commit message with the changes in a NEWS or CHANGELOG file. This works quite well -- you add the short but nice description to NEWS, do "hg commit", and the editor pops up where you can either accept the message consisting of only the changes in NEWS, or add some more stuff that's not interesting to users. cheers, Georg -- Thus spake the Lord: Thou shalt indent with four spaces. No more, no less. Four shall be the number of spaces thou shalt indent, and the number of thy indenting shall be four. Eight shalt thou not indent, nor either indent thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to four. Tabs are right out. From anthonybaxter at gmail.com Mon Sep 14 10:37:53 2009 From: anthonybaxter at gmail.com (Anthony Baxter) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 18:37:53 +1000 Subject: [python-committers] Misc/NEWS entries added to released versions In-Reply-To: References: <49D9319F.1050506@debian.org> <4AAD15B3.8080504@debian.org> <52dc1c820909130907h46de056cp9fd27e45ccf0c038@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Often the NEWS entry ends up being rewritten from the commit message to be more user-focussed description of the change... On Sep 14, 2009 6:33 PM, "Georg Brandl" wrote: Brett Cannon schrieb: >> brainstorm: >> >> It'd be nicer if we could generate the file from another source, >> perhaps ke... We should just switch to Mercurial :) I've already hacked up a hg extension to automatically fill the commit message with the changes in a NEWS or CHANGELOG file. This works quite well -- you add the short but nice description to NEWS, do "hg commit", and the editor pops up where you can either accept the message consisting of only the changes in NEWS, or add some more stuff that's not interesting to users. cheers, Georg -- Thus spake the Lord: Thou shalt indent with four spaces. No more, no less. Four shall be the number of spaces thou shalt indent, and the number of thy indenting shall be four. Eight shalt thou not indent, nor either indent thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to four. Tabs are right out. _______________________________________________ python-committers mailing list python-committers at py... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From g.brandl at gmx.net Mon Sep 14 12:40:15 2009 From: g.brandl at gmx.net (Georg Brandl) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 12:40:15 +0200 Subject: [python-committers] Misc/NEWS entries added to released versions In-Reply-To: References: <49D9319F.1050506@debian.org> <4AAD15B3.8080504@debian.org> <52dc1c820909130907h46de056cp9fd27e45ccf0c038@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes, but still: in many cases they are very similar. Plus, it's hard to auto-add a NEWS entry from a commit message (because you need to determine the right section), while it's easy to pre-fill the commit message from a NEWS diff. Georg Anthony Baxter schrieb: > Often the NEWS entry ends up being rewritten from the commit message to > be more user-focussed description of the change... > >> On Sep 14, 2009 6:33 PM, "Georg Brandl" > > wrote: >> >> Brett Cannon schrieb: >> >> >> brainstorm: >> >> It'd be nicer if we could generate the file from >> another source, >> perhaps ke... >> >> We should just switch to Mercurial :) >> >> I've already hacked up a hg extension to automatically fill the commit >> message >> with the changes in a NEWS or CHANGELOG file. This works quite well >> -- you >> add the short but nice description to NEWS, do "hg commit", and the editor >> pops up where you can either accept the message consisting of only the >> changes >> in NEWS, or add some more stuff that's not interesting to users. From solipsis at pitrou.net Mon Sep 14 13:03:00 2009 From: solipsis at pitrou.net (Antoine Pitrou) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:03:00 +0200 Subject: [python-committers] Misc/NEWS entries added to released versions Message-ID: <1252926180.5954.17.camel@localhost> Le lundi 14 septembre 2009 ? 12:40 +0200, Georg Brandl a ?crit : > Yes, but still: in many cases they are very similar. > > Plus, it's hard to auto-add a NEWS entry from a commit message (because > you need to determine the right section), while it's easy to pre-fill > the commit message from a NEWS diff. This sounds like a better approach indeed. Antoine. From rdmurray at bitdance.com Mon Sep 14 16:05:08 2009 From: rdmurray at bitdance.com (R. David Murray) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:05:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [python-committers] Misc/NEWS entries added to released versions In-Reply-To: References: <49D9319F.1050506@debian.org> <4AAD15B3.8080504@debian.org> <52dc1c820909130907h46de056cp9fd27e45ccf0c038@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 at 12:40, Georg Brandl wrote: > Yes, but still: in many cases they are very similar. > > Plus, it's hard to auto-add a NEWS entry from a commit message (because > you need to determine the right section), while it's easy to pre-fill > the commit message from a NEWS diff. But the problem we are trying to solve is the fact that the NEWS entries wind up in the _wrong_ section on merges. Any thoughts about how to solve that under Mercurial? --David From g.brandl at gmx.net Mon Sep 14 18:40:51 2009 From: g.brandl at gmx.net (Georg Brandl) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 18:40:51 +0200 Subject: [python-committers] Misc/NEWS entries added to released versions In-Reply-To: References: <49D9319F.1050506@debian.org> <4AAD15B3.8080504@debian.org> <52dc1c820909130907h46de056cp9fd27e45ccf0c038@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: R. David Murray schrieb: > On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 at 12:40, Georg Brandl wrote: >> Yes, but still: in many cases they are very similar. >> >> Plus, it's hard to auto-add a NEWS entry from a commit message (because >> you need to determine the right section), while it's easy to pre-fill >> the commit message from a NEWS diff. > > But the problem we are trying to solve is the fact that the NEWS > entries wind up in the _wrong_ section on merges. Any thoughts > about how to solve that under Mercurial? You are right, my shameless plug doesn't even solve the original problem :) However, the fact remains that *should* someone want to write an extension that handles this the right way, it would be much much easier than for Subversion. So, before we shoot at solutions here, let's wait for the switch. Georg -- Thus spake the Lord: Thou shalt indent with four spaces. No more, no less. Four shall be the number of spaces thou shalt indent, and the number of thy indenting shall be four. Eight shalt thou not indent, nor either indent thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to four. Tabs are right out. From alexandre at peadrop.com Mon Sep 14 19:05:02 2009 From: alexandre at peadrop.com (Alexandre Vassalotti) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:05:02 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Misc/NEWS entries added to released versions In-Reply-To: References: <49D9319F.1050506@debian.org> <4AAD15B3.8080504@debian.org> <52dc1c820909130907h46de056cp9fd27e45ccf0c038@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 10:05 AM, R. David Murray wrote: > But the problem we are trying to solve is the fact that the NEWS > entries wind up in the _wrong_ section on merges. ?Any thoughts > about how to solve that under Mercurial? > Could we add a version tag to each NEWS entry? Or perhaps, we could move the content of NEWS to NEWS.history after each release? These may not be the most elegant solutions, but I think either would solve the issue. -- Alexandre From jnoller at gmail.com Fri Sep 18 19:40:08 2009 From: jnoller at gmail.com (Jesse Noller) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:40:08 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Doug Hellmann Message-ID: <4222a8490909181040n70ed6f38xfbbb20a921e0e699@mail.gmail.com> I would like to propose we give the commit bit to Doug Hellmann in order for him to help out with documentation and GHOP style tasks (he's helped in the past). You might know him from the "Python Module of the Week" series here: http://www.doughellmann.com/PyMOTW/ Many of his examples, and doc snippets have landed in our official documentation. I myself am working on pulling in his multiprocessing documents for mp's docs. I know Georg sounded positive on this (correct me if I wrong Georg) - he's a great, great doc writer and I think he could help out a lot. jesse From benjamin at python.org Fri Sep 18 19:44:32 2009 From: benjamin at python.org (Benjamin Peterson) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 12:44:32 -0500 Subject: [python-committers] Doug Hellmann In-Reply-To: <4222a8490909181040n70ed6f38xfbbb20a921e0e699@mail.gmail.com> References: <4222a8490909181040n70ed6f38xfbbb20a921e0e699@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1afaf6160909181044u3bec7087sc9c657745f75cff6@mail.gmail.com> 2009/9/18 Jesse Noller : > I would like to propose we give the commit bit to Doug Hellmann in > order for him to help out with documentation and GHOP style tasks > (he's helped in the past). > > You might know him from the "Python Module of the Week" series here: > > http://www.doughellmann.com/PyMOTW/ > > Many of his examples, and doc snippets have landed in our official > documentation. I myself am working on pulling in his multiprocessing > documents for mp's docs. I know Georg sounded positive on this > (correct me if I wrong Georg) - he's a great, great doc writer and I > think he could help out a lot. Ok. Sounds good, but have you asked him? -- Regards, Benjamin From brett at python.org Fri Sep 18 19:45:17 2009 From: brett at python.org (Brett Cannon) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:45:17 -0700 Subject: [python-committers] Doug Hellmann In-Reply-To: <4222a8490909181040n70ed6f38xfbbb20a921e0e699@mail.gmail.com> References: <4222a8490909181040n70ed6f38xfbbb20a921e0e699@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: As long as he sticks to the docs (at least initially unless you are going to personally approve all code commits) I'm fine with it. On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 10:40, Jesse Noller wrote: > I would like to propose we give the commit bit to Doug Hellmann in > order for him to help out with documentation and GHOP style tasks > (he's helped in the past). > > You might know him from the "Python Module of the Week" series here: > > http://www.doughellmann.com/PyMOTW/ > > Many of his examples, and doc snippets have landed in our official > documentation. I myself am working on pulling in his multiprocessing > documents for mp's docs. I know Georg sounded positive on this > (correct me if I wrong Georg) - he's a great, great doc writer and I > think he could help out a lot. > > jesse > _______________________________________________ > python-committers mailing list > python-committers at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers > From jim at zope.com Fri Sep 18 19:46:24 2009 From: jim at zope.com (Jim Fulton) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:46:24 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Doug Hellmann In-Reply-To: <4222a8490909181040n70ed6f38xfbbb20a921e0e699@mail.gmail.com> References: <4222a8490909181040n70ed6f38xfbbb20a921e0e699@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1099b90b0909181046m64c9bec2tf89929e70c084b76@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Jesse Noller wrote: > I would like to propose we give the commit bit to Doug Hellmann in > order for him to help out with documentation and GHOP style tasks > (he's helped in the past). +1 Jim -- Jim Fulton From mal at egenix.com Fri Sep 18 20:05:05 2009 From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:05:05 +0200 Subject: [python-committers] Doug Hellmann In-Reply-To: <4222a8490909181040n70ed6f38xfbbb20a921e0e699@mail.gmail.com> References: <4222a8490909181040n70ed6f38xfbbb20a921e0e699@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4AB3CBD1.8090505@egenix.com> Jesse Noller wrote: > I would like to propose we give the commit bit to Doug Hellmann in > order for him to help out with documentation and GHOP style tasks > (he's helped in the past). > > You might know him from the "Python Module of the Week" series here: > > http://www.doughellmann.com/PyMOTW/ > > Many of his examples, and doc snippets have landed in our official > documentation. I myself am working on pulling in his multiprocessing > documents for mp's docs. I know Georg sounded positive on this > (correct me if I wrong Georg) - he's a great, great doc writer and I > think he could help out a lot. +1 -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, Sep 18 2009) >>> Python/Zope Consulting and Support ... http://www.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ... http://python.egenix.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ ::: Try our new mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! :::: eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48 D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611 http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/ From ziade.tarek at gmail.com Fri Sep 18 20:10:11 2009 From: ziade.tarek at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Tarek_Ziad=E9?=) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:10:11 +0200 Subject: [python-committers] Doug Hellmann In-Reply-To: <4222a8490909181040n70ed6f38xfbbb20a921e0e699@mail.gmail.com> References: <4222a8490909181040n70ed6f38xfbbb20a921e0e699@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <94bdd2610909181110v737c5c90p7a4351da6c691b27@mail.gmail.com> +1 Tarek On Sep 18, 2009 7:41 PM, "Jesse Noller" wrote: I would like to propose we give the commit bit to Doug Hellmann in order for him to help out with documentation and GHOP style tasks (he's helped in the past). You might know him from the "Python Module of the Week" series here: http://www.doughellmann.com/PyMOTW/ Many of his examples, and doc snippets have landed in our official documentation. I myself am working on pulling in his multiprocessing documents for mp's docs. I know Georg sounded positive on this (correct me if I wrong Georg) - he's a great, great doc writer and I think he could help out a lot. jesse _______________________________________________ python-committers mailing list python-committers at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jnoller at gmail.com Fri Sep 18 20:45:57 2009 From: jnoller at gmail.com (Jesse Noller) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:45:57 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Doug Hellmann In-Reply-To: References: <4222a8490909181040n70ed6f38xfbbb20a921e0e699@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: The docs are the initial thing, I'll ask him to run anything else by me. On Sep 18, 2009, at 1:45 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: > As long as he sticks to the docs (at least initially unless you are > going to personally approve all code commits) I'm fine with it. > > On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 10:40, Jesse Noller wrote: >> I would like to propose we give the commit bit to Doug Hellmann in >> order for him to help out with documentation and GHOP style tasks >> (he's helped in the past). >> >> You might know him from the "Python Module of the Week" series here: >> >> http://www.doughellmann.com/PyMOTW/ >> >> Many of his examples, and doc snippets have landed in our official >> documentation. I myself am working on pulling in his multiprocessing >> documents for mp's docs. I know Georg sounded positive on this >> (correct me if I wrong Georg) - he's a great, great doc writer and I >> think he could help out a lot. >> >> jesse >> _______________________________________________ >> python-committers mailing list >> python-committers at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers >> From jnoller at gmail.com Fri Sep 18 20:46:34 2009 From: jnoller at gmail.com (Jesse Noller) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:46:34 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Doug Hellmann In-Reply-To: <1afaf6160909181044u3bec7087sc9c657745f75cff6@mail.gmail.com> References: <4222a8490909181040n70ed6f38xfbbb20a921e0e699@mail.gmail.com> <1afaf6160909181044u3bec7087sc9c657745f75cff6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <696A6789-9DA5-493A-8EF0-FEB07400FFCD@gmail.com> On Sep 18, 2009, at 1:44 PM, Benjamin Peterson wrote: > 2009/9/18 Jesse Noller : >> I would like to propose we give the commit bit to Doug Hellmann in >> order for him to help out with documentation and GHOP style tasks >> (he's helped in the past). >> >> You might know him from the "Python Module of the Week" series here: >> >> http://www.doughellmann.com/PyMOTW/ >> >> Many of his examples, and doc snippets have landed in our official >> documentation. I myself am working on pulling in his multiprocessing >> documents for mp's docs. I know Georg sounded positive on this >> (correct me if I wrong Georg) - he's a great, great doc writer and I >> think he could help out a lot. > > Ok. Sounds good, but have you asked him? > Yes I have, spoke to him this morning. From g.brandl at gmx.net Fri Sep 18 23:50:08 2009 From: g.brandl at gmx.net (Georg Brandl) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 23:50:08 +0200 Subject: [python-committers] Doug Hellmann In-Reply-To: <4222a8490909181040n70ed6f38xfbbb20a921e0e699@mail.gmail.com> References: <4222a8490909181040n70ed6f38xfbbb20a921e0e699@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Jesse Noller schrieb: > I would like to propose we give the commit bit to Doug Hellmann in > order for him to help out with documentation and GHOP style tasks > (he's helped in the past). > > You might know him from the "Python Module of the Week" series here: > > http://www.doughellmann.com/PyMOTW/ > > Many of his examples, and doc snippets have landed in our official > documentation. I myself am working on pulling in his multiprocessing > documents for mp's docs. I know Georg sounded positive on this > (correct me if I wrong Georg) Not at all :) > he's a great, great doc writer and I think he could help out a lot. Seems to have been accepted -- ask him to send his public key(s) to me, and I'll add them. Georg -- Thus spake the Lord: Thou shalt indent with four spaces. No more, no less. Four shall be the number of spaces thou shalt indent, and the number of thy indenting shall be four. Eight shalt thou not indent, nor either indent thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to four. Tabs are right out. From barry at python.org Tue Sep 29 18:44:43 2009 From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:44:43 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Python 2.6.3rc1 Message-ID: <3EA91489-10EB-49C1-886F-F9FFB69D3D4D@python.org> As previously announced, I'm planning on releasing 2.6.3rc1 tonight, at about 2230 UTC. Right now we have three release blockers, which I'm reviewing now (and Antoine just said on IRC that he's closing one of them now). http://bugs.python.org/issue?@columns=title,id,activity,versions,assignee&@sort=activity&@group=priority&@filter=priority,status&@pagesize=50&@startwith=0&priority=1&status=1&@dispname=Showstoppers Please refrain from committing any changes to 2.6.3 from now until the release, unless they specifically close one of the blockers, or you contact me on #python-dev or by email first. I'll be imposing a hard- freeze on checkins at 2100 UTC today (5pm US/Eastern). After 2.6.3rc1 is out, please do not commit anything to that branch without checking with me first. I'll only accept brown-bag removing patches, and I want to have a stable tree by Thursday so that we can get Windows and Mac binaries built for Friday's release. Thanks! -Barry -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Begin forwarded message: > From: barry.warsaw > Date: September 29, 2009 6:42:39 PM EDT > To: python-checkins at python.org > Subject: [Python-checkins] r75152 - python/tags/r263rc1 > Message-Id: <20090929224239.C923AE3B61 at mail.wooz.org> > > Author: barry.warsaw > Date: Wed Sep 30 00:42:33 2009 > New Revision: 75152 > > Log: > Taggint 2.6.3rc1 > > > Added: > python/tags/r263rc1/ > - copied from r75151, /python/branches/release26-maint/ > _______________________________________________ > Python-checkins mailing list > Python-checkins at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-checkins -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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