[issue36854] GC operates out of global runtime state.

[STINNER Victor]

STINNER Victor <vstinner at python.org> added the comment:

Victor> I'm not fully happy with this solution

Eric> Should we have an issue open for finding a better solution?  Are there risks with what you did that we don't want long-term?

Pablo made a small changes in my workaround, by calling _PyGC_CollectNoFail() after PyInterpreterState_Clear().
https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/17457/files

I tried to avoid that, since I consider that no arbitrary Python code should be called after PyInterpreterState_Clear(), whereas the GC can trigger arbitrary __del__() methods implemented in pure Python. See discussion at https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/17457

Each time I tried to fix a bug in the Python finalization, I introduced worse bugs :-D

We cannot fix all bugs at once, we have to work incrementally. I like the idea of introducing workarounds specific to subinterpreters: leave the code path for the main interpreter unchanged. It helps to iterate on the code to slowly fix the code.

I prefer to not open an issue, since the Python finalization is broken is so many ways :-D Anyway, I'm hitting issues on the finalization each time I'm working on subinterpeter changes, so it's hard to forget about it :-)

I started to take notes at:
https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/17457/files

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