[Python-authors] what should we do with this list?

Steve Holden steve at holdenweb.com
Mon Oct 10 16:23:53 EDT 2016


Hi Doug,

My experience is that there aren't a huge number of changes tot he standard
library (and no new modules yet). I don't think you will lose a lot of
audience with your decisions.

S

Steve Holden

On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 7:10 PM, Doug Hellmann <doug at doughellmann.com>
wrote:

>
> On Oct 10, 2016, at 12:19 PM, Steve Holden <steve at holdenweb.com> wrote:
>
> Maybe we could encouraging some swapping of war stories, under "frieNDA".
>
> I can mention that I have an authoring project on the go - with Alex
> Martelli and Anna Ravenscroft I am working on the 3rd Edition of "Python in
> a Nutshell." I spent this weekend taking the "What's New in Python 3.6"
> documentation apart and analysing the changes so that we could be sure that
> the book will be as up to date as possible when it's published early next
> year.
>
>
> I’m working on updating “The Python Standard Library by Example” to work
> with Python 3.5. I haven’t tested any of my examples to make sure they
> still work with 3.6, and I’m close enough to my deadline that I don’t think
> I want to try it for now. Unless someone thinks there’s a critical new
> module in that version?
>
>
> O'Reilly wanted to have the book out for Christmas, and I fought hard to
> delay it, on the grounds that the publication timetable would be too rushed
> to submit before Christmas, product quality would have suffered and we
> wouldn't have been able to be definitive on 3.6. The first and only other
> time I wrote a major work (Python Web Programming, published in 2002) I was
> a brand new author, and tended to defer too easily to the publisher. But
> now I hope I have learned how to make an argument to them in business terms.
>
> So, having tried to get the party started, what's everyone else working on?
>
> regards
>  Steve
>
> Steve Holden
>
> On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 3:57 PM, Vasudev Ram <vasudevram at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Steve Holden wrote:
>>
>> >But if nobody has the time to perform the resultant tasks, the list
>> would probably be better fading away.
>>
>> What would be those resultant tasks? IIRC it's quite a while since I
>> saw any emails from this list, so I don't remember what kinds of
>> emails there may have been, earlier, of the type you refer to. Was it
>> something like other authors on this list being able to help out
>> anyone posting questions as a first-time author, with some advice?
>>
>> (I was earlier going to say maybe close the list, but it seems like a
>> pity to let the effort of starting it go waste).
>>
>> But, sort of agreeing now with Steve's and Mike Driscoll's  suggestion
>> that it be kept open, and just see if anything happens - i.e. if there
>> will be any activity on it and if it turns out to be useful to people.
>> That still doesn't solve how new people will get to know of it,
>> though. Maybe it could be mentioned somewhere on the Python Wiki, if
>> that is not already done?
>> And/or a post once in a while on the PSF blog?
>>
>> My 2c.
>>
>> --
>> Vasudev Ram
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