[Python-africa] Python-africa Digest, Vol 2, Issue 4

Naomi Ceder naomi.ceder at gmail.com
Mon Mar 7 14:21:38 EST 2016


Well, keep in mind that I'm not an expert in intellectual property law.
What I know I've learnt in discussions on the board.

Here's my understanding.

If a group, particularly a not for profit group, wants to use the two
snakes mark as it is to represent the Python language, that's fine, and
changing the colors is fine. So the mark superimposed on the map of Africa
would be fine.

The problem comes when the mark is modified, but is still being used for
something Python related. Having all sorts of variations of the mark would
weaken the mark and make it harder defend in court if someone were to abuse
it.

So we (the PSF) have to be very protective of that. It's fine to let a lot
of people use the one mark to refer to Python, but as soon as we let people
make changes and use variations of that mark, it becomes diluted and legal
defense of it becomes difficult to impossible. Basically, we can't let
people make up their own versions of the Python mark.

That may not be the best explanation of it, which is why we have a
trademarks committee with people who understand this far better than I do.
Again, I'm not the authority on this but if you want to pursue using this
logo, please check with trademark committee first. If they say it's fine,
then all is good, but if they say no, then the PSF would have to protect
the mark, with legal action if necessary.

This isn't something that the PSF enjoys, I might add. It's what the
lawyers tell us we must do to protect the Python marks and intellectual
property.

Cheers,
Naomi

On 7 March 2016 at 13:05, Chukwudi Nwachukwu <hsysinfo at gmail.com> wrote:

> @Naomi,
>
> Could you enlighten us on the trademark policy? Thanks
>
>
> iChux™
> http://bit.ly/iscrape
> *Behind every no entry sign, there is a door.*
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>>    3. Re: AfriPy logo (Naomi Ceder)
>>    4. Re: AfriPy logo (Loek van Gent)
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Humphrey <hbutau at msn.com>
>> To: python-africa at python.org
>> Cc:
>> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 12:11:02 +0200
>> Subject: Re: [Python-africa] AfriPy logo (Loek van Gent)
>> Hi Group,
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>> I like the logo that Loek sent. Its awesome! I don't know the others.
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>> Humphrey
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>>> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 08:43:28 +0100
>>> From: Loek van Gent <loek at ibizit.nl>
>>> To: python-africa at python.org
>>> Subject: [Python-africa] AfriPy logo
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>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Maybe not very relevant, but was doodling away in Gimp and came up with a
>>> logo.
>>> If you like it you can use it. If you almost like it, you can improve it
>>> (we're open source, right?)
>>>
>>> Keep up your good spirit and spread the community!
>>>
>>> Loek
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>> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 07:54:03 +0000
>> Subject: Re: [Python-africa] Python-africa Digest, Vol 2, Issue 3
>> Dear Loek,
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>> This is cool. I'm for it. I like it and would use it henceforth.
>> www.bit.ly/iscrape
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>> From: Naomi Ceder <naomi.ceder at gmail.com>
>> To: Loek van Gent <loek at ibizit.nl>, python-africa at python.org
>> Cc:
>> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 08:01:52 -0600
>> Subject: Re: [Python-africa] AfriPy logo
>> Hi all,
>>
>> It is a cool design.
>> I hate to spoil the fun but PLEASE do not use this logo until you check
>> with the PSF trademark committee. From my involvement with other
>> discussions about logos,  it's my understanding that such a modification of
>> the PSF logo might not be allowable. For more, please see
>> https://www.python.org/psf/trademarks/
>>
>> I'm on my way to work right now, but I'd be happy to explain more later
>> if anyone is interested.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Naomi
>>
>> On 7 March 2016 at 01:43, Loek van Gent <loek at ibizit.nl> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Maybe not very relevant, but was doodling away in Gimp and came up with
>>> a logo.
>>> If you like it you can use it. If you almost like it, you can improve it
>>> (we're open source, right?)
>>>
>>> Keep up your good spirit and spread the community!
>>>
>>> Loek
>>>
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Loek van Gent <loek at ibizit.nl>
>> To: python-africa at python.org
>> Cc:
>> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 17:16:40 +0100
>> Subject: Re: [Python-africa] AfriPy logo
>> Hi Naomi,
>>
>> Shoot! Forgot about that, sorry! I'm on my way now too, but will sent a
>> request to the applicable e-mail address later.
>> Sorry guys for the spoiler!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Loek
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Naomi Ceder <naomi.ceder at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> It is a cool design.
>>> I hate to spoil the fun but PLEASE do not use this logo until you check
>>> with the PSF trademark committee. From my involvement with other
>>> discussions about logos,  it's my understanding that such a modification of
>>> the PSF logo might not be allowable. For more, please see
>>> https://www.python.org/psf/trademarks/
>>>
>>> I'm on my way to work right now, but I'd be happy to explain more later
>>> if anyone is interested.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Naomi
>>>
>>> On 7 March 2016 at 01:43, Loek van Gent <loek at ibizit.nl> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Maybe not very relevant, but was doodling away in Gimp and came up with
>>>> a logo.
>>>> If you like it you can use it. If you almost like it, you can improve
>>>> it (we're open source, right?)
>>>>
>>>> Keep up your good spirit and spread the community!
>>>>
>>>> Loek
>>>>
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