From super777smart at gmail.com  Wed Jun  2 16:48:35 2021
From: super777smart at gmail.com (super smart)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2021 16:48:35 -0400
Subject: [pypy-dev] How much money do you need to implement the 4+GB RAM
 (true 64bit) for pypy?
Message-ID: <CADbAusMfppR9DSepeRz-Ai+PLxnoJ5SAW=vzuvRu+rHXpfYQrg@mail.gmail.com>

My AI program can only use 4GB of RAM in pypy. How much in CAD would you
need to implement the 64 bit solution?

Pypy has made my code so fast, that C++ is possibly not worth writing in
ATM.
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From drsalists at gmail.com  Thu Jun  3 00:25:00 2021
From: drsalists at gmail.com (Dan Stromberg)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2021 21:25:00 -0700
Subject: [pypy-dev] How much money do you need to implement the 4+GB RAM
 (true 64bit) for pypy?
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On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 9:16 PM super smart <super777smart at gmail.com> wrote:

> My AI program can only use 4GB of RAM in pypy. How much in CAD would you
> need to implement the 64 bit solution?
>
> Pypy has made my code so fast, that C++ is possibly not worth writing in
> ATM.
>

This works fine for me on a 16 Gig system:
/usr/local/pypy3-7.3.3/bin/pypy3 -c 's = "a" * 2**33'

Is it possible you're using a 32 bit build of pypy?
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From matti.picus at gmail.com  Thu Jun  3 00:45:02 2021
From: matti.picus at gmail.com (Matti Picus)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 07:45:02 +0300
Subject: [pypy-dev] How much money do you need to implement the 4+GB RAM
 (true 64bit) for pypy?
In-Reply-To: <CADbAusMfppR9DSepeRz-Ai+PLxnoJ5SAW=vzuvRu+rHXpfYQrg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <34595f93-e264-bb37-41ff-803c39e888d5@gmail.com>

On 2/6/21 11:48 pm, super smart wrote:

> My AI program can only use 4GB of RAM in pypy. How much in CAD would 
> you need to implement the 64 bit solution?
>
> Pypy has made my code so fast, that C++ is possibly not worth writing 
> in ATM.
>

Please donate at https://opencollective.com/pypy


If you are using windows, we now have a first 64-bit version available. 
We still need to

- complete feature parity with CPython (winconsoleio, audit events, 
faulthandler)

- improve the installer and virtualenv compatibility

- make sure performance is equivalent to linux, especially around IO


If you cannot contribute directly to help us work on these, perhaps you 
could sponsor a directed effort. Sums on the order of $10,000 would go a 
long way toward enabling PyPy developers to work on the project.


One thing that would really help us is to get the word out via user 
stories like yours. Do you have a link to a blog post about your 
experience or would you like to write one for https://pypy.org/blog?


Matti


From anto.cuni at gmail.com  Wed Jun  9 09:15:55 2021
From: anto.cuni at gmail.com (Antonio Cuni)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2021 15:15:55 +0200
Subject: [pypy-dev] New official IRC channel
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On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 11:06 AM anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I like how silently is Freenode being buried. Reminds my of my beloved
> Belarus. So, what is the reason?
>

a quick google reveals many articles which explain what happened to
freenode and why many projects decided to migrate to another IRC server.
One of such articles is for example this:
https://fosspost.org/freenode-collapse/




> On Sun, May 30, 2021 at 10:47 PM Antonio Cuni <anto.cuni at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Following the example of many other FOSS projects, the PyPy team has
> decided to move its official #pypy IRC channel from Freenode to
> Libera.Chat: irc://irc.libera.chat/hpy
> >
> > The core devs will no longer be present on the Freenode channel, so we
> recommend to join the new channel as soon as possible.
> >
> > https://www.pypy.org/posts/2021/05/pypy-irc-moves-to-libera-chat.html
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > pypy-dev mailing list
> > pypy-dev at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
>
>
>
> --
> anatoly t.
>
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From phyoakl at hexcode.tech  Fri Jun 11 04:44:28 2021
From: phyoakl at hexcode.tech (Phyo Arkar Lwin)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 15:14:28 +0630
Subject: [pypy-dev] Microsoft is hirign to speed up python ,
 they just need to support this project here.
Message-ID: <CA+HjJrhPrV24ecfdaRmTSBtVYi+7E5ARe=W4-UY3F6H33GNuqQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello PyPy,

I think you guys need to talk to them. It seems GVR forgets existence of
pypy.
https://twitter.com/gvanrossum/status/1402756021358006272?s=19
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From matti.picus at gmail.com  Fri Jun 18 07:58:09 2021
From: matti.picus at gmail.com (Matti Picus)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2021 14:58:09 +0300
Subject: [pypy-dev] help needed from tk/tcl experts
Message-ID: <ebded69f-3740-c919-da19-b19dd3594d9e@gmail.com>

Our cffi-backed tk/tcl implementation is failing the test_idel tests [0] 
on python3.7, and the failures persist in the 3.8 branch.

Could someone who understands the way it is supposed to work take a look?

There is something tricky about passing unicode strings and kwargs that 
we don't have right.

This is pure python + cffi + tk/tcl, no RPython needed, no long 
translation times.


If you wish to help but don't know how to start, let us know, anyone is 
welcome to pitch in.


Thanks

Matti


[0] 
http://buildbot.pypy.org/summary/longrepr?testname=unmodified&builder=pypy-c-jit-linux-x86-64&build=7734&mod=lib-python.3.test.test_idle