[pypy-dev] Internationalization Proposal (was Re: (no subject))

Mariano Reingart reingart at gmail.com
Tue May 5 19:03:53 CEST 2015


On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 5:23 AM, Maciej Fijalkowski <fijall at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Mariano.
>
> Welcome on board!
>
> As expressed before, we would be happy to have internationalization in
> PyPy as I would like to have a discussion about which of the tools are
> suitable for driving that forward.
>
>
Well, in the draft PEP is explained: gettext

Beside tools, this would require a lot of coordination and work so the
translations get coherence, useful reviews, good translation memory, etc.

Although the GSoC proposal was for CPython, many things could be relevant
to PyPy, including: backwards compatibility, development, performance,
packaging, maintenance, effort estimation, consistency and other
internationalization "difficulties".

That said, this is a list of development of PyPy and it's not a list
> to discuss how python-dev handles issues. I'm more than happy to help
> with any constructive work w.r.t. internationalization and discussing
> what went wrong on the cpython bug tracker is not one of those.
>
>
Sorry, that was not my intention.

I only wanted to bring some clarifications about the precedents of my
internationalization proposal, that by the way, were raised here by other
PyPy devs, not by me.

Anyway, I think that a 5 year old experience could be useful, where many
other python devs already expressed concerns, proposed tools or had
supportive comments / suggestions.


> It's also quite hard to read mails that answer all of the before mails
> in one go - for example I'm very much interested in seeing PyPy work
> go forward and I'm very much not interested in the experience of
> trying to get python-dev attention onto any topic so if you can,
> please respond one-mail-per-topic in the future, thanks!
>
>
Yes, I already apologized for answering a long mail, I didn't was
subscribed to this list so I couldn't answer each one individually.

You're right about the python-dev, and in fact I had no plans in the short
term to insist there.

Also I think this goes further than that, and could be useful to to the
whole python community (not only pypy or cpython, but also for other python
implementations and projects).

Best regards,

Mariano Reingart
http://www.sistemasagiles.com.ar
http://reingart.blogspot.com
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