[pypy-dev] trsnslating pypy to another language besides C

Ryan Gonzalez rymg19 at gmail.com
Thu Mar 5 18:55:09 CET 2015


I didn't figure I'd even get that far...

It's mostly just for toying with the static backend, without the JIT.

On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 11:02 PM, Armin Rigo <arigo at tunes.org> wrote:

> Hi Ryan,
>
> On 4 March 2015 at 19:48, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Not necessarily. I figured that a C++ target might look a tad nicer
> because
> > it has built-in objects and exception handling.
>
> Yes, this might be true for the static backend.  However, the JIT
> integration would be extremely painful.  To handle, let's say, the
> exceptions you get from C++, you'd need to write custom assembler that
> depends on the C++ compiler you used, full of non-standard binary data
> like the "eh" sections produced by gcc.  Similarly, there is no
> standard way at all (as far as I know) to learn how to build a new
> object from scratch (like get its vtable pointer and know where it
> must be stored).  You might start by learning how they manage to do
> that in other VMs (like the various JVM), but my guess is that
> although they are using C++ to write the VM, all Java-level objects
> are implemented by controlling the exact layout of memory, not as C++
> objects at all.
>
>
> A bientôt,
>
> Armin.
>



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