[pypy-dev] Virtualenv

[Donald Stufft]

On May 13, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Armin Rigo <arigo at tunes.org> wrote:

> Hi Donald,
> 
> On 13 May 2014 13:18, Donald Stufft <donald at stufft.io> wrote:
>> The idea behind ensurepip is that instead of shipping pip, you ship a bootstrap
>> which will install pip for you.
> 
> I see why you'd want this in CPython 3.x, but the reasons for
> supporting this are much less clear to me with PyPy2.  I doubt that
> pip would suddenly require an urgent upgrade of its installed version,
> which cannot wait until the next official PyPy release.  But I don't
> see the drawback of having ensurepip available as well, so I guess we
> can have both that and a pre-installed pip.

Because released versions stick around for a long time. 2.2.1 ships with
Ubuntu 14.04, people are going to use that version for a long time.

And actually If you don’t keep it independently upgradeable then testing
pip on PyPy will become a lot more difficult. 

> 
> About virtualenv, if it's as simple as providing one standard script
> in our binaries for the user that doesn't have it already installed
> for CPython from his Linux distribution (Windows users, looking at
> you)... then I really don't see why we shouldn't.
> 
> 
> A bientôt,
> 
> Armin.


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