[pypy-dev] Moving the project forward

[Alex Gaynor]

I've gotten Noah Kantrowitz on here, he's doing some other infrastructure
stuff for the PSF, and would like to include speed.python.org in the proper
organization of the machines, rather than ad-hoc "everyone installs what
they think it needs" :)

Alex

On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Jesse Noller <jnoller at gmail.com> wrote:

> (Re-sending intentionally - I wasn't subbed to pypy-dev and got rejected)
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Jesse Noller <jnoller at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Here's a summary (nicely put together by Nick Coghlan):
> >
> > - OSU/OSL have set up the machine itself (details in the July list
> archives)
> > - I am the machine admin (I have root)
> > - Tennessee and Miquel are working on getting codespeed up and running
> >
> > - I and Maciej are already too busy to handle the coordination/admin
> > side of things
> >
> > I just added the "speedracer" account - a common account to setup
> > things as needed. Currently, I don't see activity from Miquel on
> > setting up the codespeed instance. I know Tennessee has been looking
> > at setting up the runner.
> >
> > What we need is this, very simply:
> >
> > 1 - A working, running codespeed instance installed
> > 2 - Benchmark runner(s) setup and going - for PyPy and CPython 2.x
> > since the benchmarks don't run on Python 3 yet.
> >
> >
> > Other needs/notes:
> > - a project issue tracker doesn't appear to exist yet (needs to be done)
> > - a better 'placeholder/about' page would be useful that offered links
> to:
> >  - the speed at python.org mailing list signup page
> >  - the issue tracker (once it exists)
> >  - the codespeed repo
> >
> > Ideally, the front landing page would end up looking like:
> > http://speed.pypy.org/
> >
> > - the aim is to eventually have the web front end running on different
> > (but still OSU/OSL hosted) hardware, although that likely isn't
> > critical right now
> >
> > - the current 5 GB /tmp size may be a problem for PyPy
> >
> > Where do we go from here - I can not be the one to keep pestering the
> > group to make forward progress. On behalf of the PSF, and the CPython
> > and PyPy teams, I got us a donated platform for running these shared,
> > common benchmarks. Right now we have a 10,000$+ paper weight taking
> > rack space in OSU/OSL.
> >
> > I need someone to take lead on this and get the project moving forward
> > - as a reminder, here was the original proposal I made to the board,
> > after PyCon 2011:
> >
> > """
> > Coming out of the PyCon VM and language summits, it was commonly
> > agreed that PyPy, CPython, IronPython and Jython should strive to move
> > to a common set of benchmarks and a single performance-oriented site.
> > This was agreed upon by the maintainers present at the conference, and
> > included leads from all of the major implementations. This project
> > would be lead by the various VM development teams, and based around
> > the Unladen Swallow/PyPy benchmark suite. The site would be derived
> > from:
> >
> > http://speed.pypy.org/
> >
> > There are already GSOC students potentially lined up to work on
> > porting the test suite to Python 3!
> >
> > There, of course, is the requirement that we have:
> >
> > 1> A machine
> > 2> Hosting for that machine
> >
> > And I took the job of finding both. As the OSU/OSL [1] has come up
> > several times in discussions about free, monitored hosting, I felt
> > that now would be the time to float the trial balloon and start a
> > continuing relationship with the OSU/OSL team. I got to speak with
> > some of the team at PyCon, and I was quite impressed with their
> > enthusiasm and willingness to help out.
> > """
> >
> > I need help from everyone to get this up and running: the PyPy team is
> > most familiar with the speed.pypy.org/codespeed system. If we could
> > get a dump of what needs to be done to get things setup, that may help
> > get more hands involved.
> >
> > I am feeling personally responsible that this has not been moving
> > forward - I need your help to get this up and running for the
> > betterment of CPython and PyPy. This project benefits both projects,
> > and Python in general immensely.
> >
> > Once up and running, this system will be prominently placed on the
> > Python.org home page, and be used by potential users to help select
> > and evaluate their Python runtime.
> >
> > Jesse
> >
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