[pydotorg-www] Editing permissions for IntegratedDevelopmentEnvironments for AndrewJanke

Andrew Janke andrew at apjanke.net
Tue Jun 5 13:28:13 EDT 2018


Oh, I'm not suggesting that we remove references to WingIDE entirely. 
Just that particular 2008 article (and hopefully replace it with a newer 
reference). It's ancient and doesn't seem relevant to the current Python 
IDE scene.

Cheers,
Andrew

On 6/5/18 11:14 AM, Steve Holden wrote:
> Your call, but as an active Wing user I will just point out that the 
> company support their product very actively, if that helps.
>
> regards
>  Steve
>
> Steve Holden
>
> On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 3:18 AM, Andrew Janke <andrew at apjanke.net 
> <mailto:andrew at apjanke.net>> wrote:
>
>
>     On 5/27/18 10:25 AM, Mats Wichmann wrote:
>
>         On 05/26/2018 12:22 PM, Andrew Janke wrote:
>
>             Good to go. I was able to edit the page. Thanks!
>
>             Andrew
>
>         Thanks for taking this on... someone motivated to pick a an
>         IDE is the
>         perfect candidate to update the tables.  You even inspired me
>         to make a
>         few more changes!
>
>         While we're here, there are links to a number of articles that
>         compare
>         IDEs.  In this modern world, there appear to be an infinite
>         number of
>         "ten best" type articles, as, sadly, people have learned how
>         effective
>         they are as clickbait, so I'm not sure how to refresh this
>         list, but I'm
>         thinking that we should drop the older articles. The ones from
>         2000,
>         2005, even 2008 seem unlikely to be very applicable, as all of the
>         surviving IDEs have evolved, and some (BlackAdder?) don't seem
>         to have
>         survived.  Any objections if I kill a few?  Andrew - if you
>         found any
>         useful comparsion article, please feel free to add, I'm just
>         thinking we
>         shouldn't add the dozens, maybe hundreds, of such comparisons
>         that pop
>         up if you ask a search engine.
>
>         -- mats
>
>     That makes sense.
>
>     I have no useful comparison articles to add. I think one can smell
>     the difference between original content and a "ten best" clickbait
>     listicle, and all the decent original-content comparison articles
>     I've found are already in this Wiki entry. (E.g. this one that you
>     have linked is a really good one:
>     https://xcorr.net/2013/04/17/evaluating-ides-for-scientific-python/
>     <https://xcorr.net/2013/04/17/evaluating-ides-for-scientific-python/>)
>     Which is kind of sad because the last comparo article is from 2013.
>
>     At any rate, I also agree with not adding all the content-farm
>     junk that one finds in Google.
>
>     IMHO, as far as old links on this article go, I'd say remove the
>     link that's for WingIDE specifically, but actually keep all the
>     rest, even the ones as old as 2000: those are good, content-deep
>     articles, are of historical interest, serve as examples of how to
>     compare IDEs, and given how slowly the Python IDE ecosystem seems
>     to be evolving, are still relevant. I found them all useful in my
>     current efforts to learn about Python IDEs. And some of these
>     articles don't surface in a Google search for "Python IDEs";
>     they're buried in "ten best" clickbait, so I think it's still
>     useful to have them collected in a list.
>
>     Cheers,
>     Andrew
>
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