[pydotorg-www] [Psf-redesign] Fwd: [Pydotorg] Fwd: pydotorg 'easy' github issues

Sun Aug 10 15:19:52 CEST 2014

On 10 Aug 2014 22:55, "Steve Holden" <steve at holdenweb.com> wrote:

> The web site is an open source project. It isn't the sense of what's
needed that's absent, it's a busy crew of volunteers swarming all over the
site code (including HTNML and CSS) making it better. It's an active team
of developers anxious to make python.org the best open source language web
site in the world. Without that, little else is going to help.

I consider python.org to be in a similar place to where distutils-sig was
around 18 months ago - not in a position to make autonomous decisions, and
hence not a place where volunteers are likely to be keen to participate.

In the distutils-sig case it was python-dev that needed to more effectively
delegate decision making authority to empower an already interested
community, and at PyCon 2013, the decision was taken to update PEP 1 to
address that core problem. End result: a flourishing Python Packaging
Authority, and a package installer shipping by default with CPython.

For python.org, it is the PSF board that needs to delegate more
effectively, but just as in the distutils-sig case, properly empowering the
python.org team requires changing the power structures governing the
relationships between various groups. As with any delegation of authority,
however, trust and respect are key elements. In the distutils-sig case,
that was built up mostly through the pip, wheel and crate.io projects. For
python.org, we don't yet have anyone demonstrating the same kind of
initiative, independence and interest that was demonstrated by the leads of
those projects.

Regards,
Nick.

>
> Given the lack of response to my post, what difference do you think these
changes would make?
>
> S
>
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Steve Holden <steve at holdenweb.com>
wrote:
> >> Hi! Could we maybe set up a once-monthly FAQ post giving noobs the
lowdown
> >> on how to reach the repo and build a local site copy?
> >>
> >> S
> >>
> >> On Aug 5, 2014, at 11:41 PM, Michael Foord <michael at voidspace.org.uk>
wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Begin forwarded message:
> >>
> >> From: Jessica McKellar <jessica.mckellar at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: [Pydotorg] Fwd: pydotorg 'easy' github issues
> >> Date: 6 August 2014 07:43:01 EEST
> >> To: pydotorg <pydotorg at python.org>
> >>
> >> Hi folks,
> >>
> >> Brianna is interested in adding some labels to pydotorg issues, but
that
> >> action is restricted to project admins.
> >>
> >> 1. Can someone who is a project admin either add these labels, or
engage
> >> Brianna CC'ing this list about alternatives?
> >>
> >> 2. How can I check who the project admins are?
> >>
> >> 3. Is restricting labels to admins the right level of restriction?
> >>
> >> -Jessica
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> From: Brianna Laugher <brianna.laugher at gmail.com>
> >> Date: Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 8:35 PM
> >> Subject: pydotorg 'easy' github issues
> >> To: jesstess at mit.edu
> >> Cc: Nick Coghlan <ncoghlan at gmail.com>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Jessica!
> >>
> >> I'm at PyCon AU sprints and Nick suggested that pydotorg could be a
good
> >> project for newbies to contribute to.
> >>
> >> I went through the issues and I suggest that it could be useful to tag
the
> >> following issues as "easy pickings":
> >>
> >> - Add note in README for how to contribute #60 (add link to mailing
list)
> >> - Dead link and typo #422
> >> - "Become a member" link points to the wrong page #397
> >> - newjobs/review statusaction #447
> >> - job board - extra escaping #446
> >> - PSF recognizes *three* categories of members #429
> >> - docutils admonitions no longer stand out #428
> >> - PSF: Mission links to membership FAQ entry that no longer exists #392
> >> - Order download files better #273
> >> - Accented characters broken for Python donor list #254
> >>
> >> It would probably also be useful for some issues to be tagged as "PSF
input
> >> needed" or something similar (this might be synonymous with "content",
but
> >> Nick mentioned the admin around pydotorg is still a bit amorphous).
> >>
> >> cheers
> >> Brianna
> >>
> >>
> >> --
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> >> http://modernthings.org/
> >>
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> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >> May you do good and not evil
> >> May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others
> >> May you share freely, never taking more than you give.
> >> -- the sqlite blessing http://www.sqlite.org/different.html
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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